Why You NEED These N54 Catless Downpipes & How To Install 'em in a BMW 335i or 135i!

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  • Опубликовано: 5 авг 2020
  • Let's talk about BMW N54 catless downpipes. I'll explain how much power you'll gain, which downpipes are the best, and even show you how to install them. This is one of the best mods you can do to your BMW 135i (E82) or BMW 335i (E90/E92)! All of the parts and tools you'll need are linked below...
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  • @elijahhudson2898
    @elijahhudson2898 4 года назад +167

    I think I can speak for everyone when I say we love the 335 content!

    • @jake_spence
      @jake_spence  4 года назад +8

      I knowwww, lol! Trying to mix it up, but I'll always have N54 content for you guys. About to go hard on the M3 though.

    • @elijahhudson2898
      @elijahhudson2898 4 года назад +1

      Jake Spence Looking forward to the videos to come! The best BMW content on the Tube!

    • @-GA-MancsFinest
      @-GA-MancsFinest 3 года назад

      #metoo

  • @phild5813
    @phild5813 4 года назад +59

    My 335i felt and sounded soooooo much better after downpipes. It's a 100% must do on these cars.

    • @jake_spence
      @jake_spence  4 года назад +7

      Truly a great N54 mod! I remember when I first installed them on my 135i like 5 years ago lol.

  • @ArrtusMusic
    @ArrtusMusic 4 года назад +85

    For anyone that's going to do this, I'd also like to point out to be careful with the way you orient the V-band clamps. They can get in the way of the wastegate actuators and cause problems. Also, if your O2's are rusted and fused onto your OEM downpipes, I would recommend swapping them out if you use an impact gun to take them off because they will likely be damaged and throw your AFR's out of wack. Don't ask me how I know.

    • @jake_spence
      @jake_spence  4 года назад +10

      Yes! This is a great point that I'm aware of but didn't think to mention in the video. Tighten the v-band clamps in the same orientation as you removed them. And also a good tip on the O2 sensors.

    • @Vgk36
      @Vgk36 4 года назад +9

      Thanks for posting this . You saved me a lot of headache before I do this. Seriously thanks for chiming in with the details . It's always in the details .

    • @skizzlemane1
      @skizzlemane1 3 года назад +2

      Also maybe don’t use an impact on the sensors unless it’s a last resort situation and you have new ones to put in 👍🏼

    • @Ept.jose47
      @Ept.jose47 3 года назад

      What if I buy some used Catless pipes

    • @cat740dt
      @cat740dt 3 года назад

      @@Ept.jose47 same process

  • @misteryeah2013
    @misteryeah2013 4 года назад +5

    Great content! I love the fact that you do all the work yourself whereas some people in other videos tell you what to do... but they are shooting footage at a shop having someone else perform the work for them.. keep up the good work

  • @kar4tube
    @kar4tube Год назад +1

    This is definitely the and most accurate and comprehensive DIY video for DP replacement. Well done!

  • @robinsonf1136
    @robinsonf1136 4 года назад

    Bro I appreciate how you use/review budget parts. A lot of guys go nuts buying crazy expensive parts. I’ll be adding the same charge and down pipe you have👌🏽, just got my 335i 2 weeks go as project car.

  • @ElusiveGamer96
    @ElusiveGamer96 4 года назад +21

    Bro the quality of this content makes me want to cry tears of joy

    • @jake_spence
      @jake_spence  4 года назад

      I'm so glad to hear that, thanks for watching!

    • @acuadras12
      @acuadras12 3 года назад

      Right! 😂😂💯🙌

  • @upsidebooges3674
    @upsidebooges3674 2 года назад

    Great video brotha not only did you help with the install but you also help me fined a tuning software!

  • @Frostbite35i
    @Frostbite35i 4 года назад

    Downpipes make a huge difference! I just got mine on there too. Building my own n54 335i on my channel, trying to get it FBO with M3 bodykit conversion. Just starting my channel but it helps keep track of things.

  • @skizzlemane1
    @skizzlemane1 3 года назад +1

    1:47 I couldn’t agree more 🙏🏼
    9:07 these little morsels of invaluable info that will guarantee success are the reason I stay watching this channel 🤙🏼

  • @sam19022004
    @sam19022004 3 года назад

    Thanks so much Jack, I would do the same on my next mod. Clear content and illustration.

  • @Tracked350Z
    @Tracked350Z 4 года назад +3

    I installed the ARM 7" intercooler. It's a really nice piece and fitment was excellent.

  • @PoorFamz
    @PoorFamz 3 года назад +2

    Awesome vid mate! This helped clear up whether or not I'll need to get new v-band clamps and turbo-to-downpipe gaskets when I do mine soon. Looks like it's not necessary, but I know it's fairly subjective and doesn't hurt to do them for peace of mind as well.

  • @bcg5175
    @bcg5175 3 года назад +1

    congrats on the new gig, laying the foundation for next generation of e82 n54 owners

  • @leonelescogido39
    @leonelescogido39 3 года назад

    Love it! RUclipsrs like yourself make it possible to own and maintain an n54 Vehicle🙏🏼 Love my e90 335i

  • @1Down4Up
    @1Down4Up 4 года назад +3

    this is a fantastic diy for any new comers into the platform. ive been enjoying the frequent videos this past week or two

    • @jake_spence
      @jake_spence  4 года назад

      Thank you! Glad to hear that, thanks for watching 👍

  • @orion1899
    @orion1899 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for this video Jake! This is literally next on my list.

    • @jake_spence
      @jake_spence  4 года назад

      Glad you help! You'll be glad you went catless.

  • @Anonymous-mk7es
    @Anonymous-mk7es 4 года назад

    Love the in depth tutorials!

  • @albertomunoz7620
    @albertomunoz7620 4 года назад

    Awesome video thank you!

  • @bcg5175
    @bcg5175 3 года назад

    long time no upload, got couple recommendations lol, my sunroof drain clogged!!! omg my backseat & driver seat floor were full w 3 maybe 4 inches of water... & ik yours is a manual, but for us auto 135i owners, elaborate on throttle reset!!! been binge reading about it all day bout to give it a whirl see if the hype is real cheers 🍻

  • @REGULATORnpt
    @REGULATORnpt 2 года назад

    I found this vid because I got as far as trying to remove the down pipes, but the fukn O2 sensor up high that you said was too cramped to get, WAS TOO CRAMPED TO GET! lmaoo so now I will unplug them at the other end like you did. Thank you bro!

  • @in54ne82
    @in54ne82 4 года назад +2

    Love your shirts. Got 2 of them and fit/look great! Great work as usual!

    • @jake_spence
      @jake_spence  4 года назад +1

      Awesome! Thank you! So glad you like them 👌

  • @abuhajebmotorsports4683
    @abuhajebmotorsports4683 4 года назад +3

    Picking my car up tomorrow I just installed downpipes what good timing 😍

  • @djquinones
    @djquinones 3 года назад

    Thanks Jake...great info...

  • @faiyazkalick4626
    @faiyazkalick4626 2 года назад +1

    Awesome content, very useful and enjoyable. Thanks Jake. I'm new to the channel. Quick question, where did you get those head lights from ? The ones on the black 135i. And is it possible to change from normal halogens to those ?

  • @757popem
    @757popem 4 года назад

    I think I'm going to start a 535i channel since their not that popular. Great video.

  • @LiT_RaBBiT
    @LiT_RaBBiT Год назад +1

    If you’re a 335Is owner beware:(IDK if it’s just me) ARM catless DP have bad fitment for o2 sensors. There isn’t enough clearance between the sensor and the pipe itself so I went with vrsf way better fit.

  • @efthimios
    @efthimios 3 года назад

    I think great idea to do Catless downpipe with stock cat back - I love the skin of my stock n55 catbacj

  • @Vsm_integra
    @Vsm_integra 3 года назад

    I don’t particularly love BMW but I do love the content your car is beautiful❤️👌

  • @mcdoob
    @mcdoob 3 года назад

    Hey bro- are you ok? Haven’t seen a new upload in a really long time. You are one of my favorite youtubers for n54 content

  • @waynesimmons8186
    @waynesimmons8186 3 года назад

    Great vid my friend.

  • @luispina317
    @luispina317 Год назад +2

    If I can add on to this I would definitely say remove that heat shield covering the passenger motor mount. You’ll thank me later. Bend that clamp that connected the oem catalytic converter to the transmission. Lastly. Good luck with that rear turbo clamp. It was a pita! Give yourself a solid 7 hours to do this if it’s your first time. I’ve been working on cars for quite a while as well. Not an easy diy

    • @geoffgorlick790
      @geoffgorlick790 Год назад +1

      In Australia this job is not for the faint hearted. Difficult level 10. Also going catless, tune is 100% required. Rear O2 sensors will through a engine fault code, and put you in limp mode.

  • @ScottSam311
    @ScottSam311 3 года назад +1

    Jake, love the channel! What is your strategy to pass emissions?

  • @jeffc6832
    @jeffc6832 4 года назад +7

    You should pick up some 1/2" 6 point impact sockets and extensions. You get a lot of torque loss with that adapter and the extensions. You get torque loss with impact rated ones too, but chrome are way worse. And whenever I'm unbolting exhaust components, I always try to soak it in PB Blaster first to give myself the best chance possible.

    • @jake_spence
      @jake_spence  4 года назад

      Yeah, I definitely could use some more/better tools lol. I usually just buy what I need when I need it and let the tool collection grow from there. I put more money into the mods/maintenance of the car than I do the tools. Good tips tho!

  • @aggieE46
    @aggieE46 4 года назад +2

    Always like your content. Videos are well done. Thanks so much!

    • @jake_spence
      @jake_spence  4 года назад +1

      Glad you like them! Thanks for watching 🙏

    • @aggieE46
      @aggieE46 4 года назад

      Jake Spence decided to do inlets at the same time. Started out cleaning my intake valves. Then replaced my oil pan gasket. Transmission refresh, ECS diff bushings, M3 front control arms, downpipes and inlets. Should be a different animal when I’m done!

  • @VFL720
    @VFL720 4 года назад +9

    The memes are so dank in this video, and right at the perfect place! I love this channel so much

    • @jake_spence
      @jake_spence  4 года назад +1

      Haha, thanks man. Glad you love it!

  • @nikolasvenetidis9608
    @nikolasvenetidis9608 3 года назад +3

    Wya homie? Waiting for more videos been watching your channel for a long while

  • @friguy4444
    @friguy4444 2 года назад

    Great video as always Jake. I know this is an older video now but I only got my DP's put in and I'm running MHD on it. Before i had the Dp's in my O2 sensors were fine and no codes afterwards I have the 2C6A (Post O2's switched) and 2C7E (O2 control). I have re-mapped my car with the MHD O2 sensor choice but no change. Do I need to reset Adaptions or is the only fix new O2 sensors?

  • @josephbeltramini5442
    @josephbeltramini5442 4 года назад

    I liked your charge pipe lesson. How
    would I get an air duct for the front
    bumper, to feed air up to the airbox?
    Is that a Dinan exclusive part #?

  • @gayashanjayamanne157
    @gayashanjayamanne157 3 года назад

    Great vid. But what did you do to the check engine light in the cluster?

  • @Bone4444
    @Bone4444 Год назад +3

    I just wish there were more videos like this for the 535i

  • @dennisbishop2171
    @dennisbishop2171 2 года назад

    Hi Jake loving the videos. I do have a question. I have a 2013 335is convertible and was wanting DPs but had heard catless may cause exhaust fumes with top down. What do you or other viewers think? Thanks

  • @shazadkhan5580
    @shazadkhan5580 3 года назад

    Well done 👏

  • @AZRacerX
    @AZRacerX 4 года назад +2

    Any time you are going to touch a nut that's part of the exhaust system you always want to shoot it with some PB then wait 15 mins then take a crack at it. Anyway, Great video man, you are N54/5 inspiration :)

    • @jake_spence
      @jake_spence  4 года назад +1

      Thank you sir! I'm not sure why I didn't bust out the PB earlier lol.

  • @dylantrinderBMW
    @dylantrinderBMW 4 года назад +1

    Great video bro !

    • @jake_spence
      @jake_spence  4 года назад

      Thank you, glad you liked it!

  • @xantor_
    @xantor_ 3 года назад

    Hey I just came across your channel and wanted to know what you did to your 135i. Your transmissions sounds are beatiful. Is it rebuild? How do I make mine as loud too?

  • @michaelwolflake4918
    @michaelwolflake4918 3 года назад

    Outstanding.

  • @giolaguna3133
    @giolaguna3133 2 года назад

    Hey love the head lights were can I get a pair e82 2009

  • @TroyBarnes84
    @TroyBarnes84 3 года назад

    that cut at 15:45 absolutely killed me!
    question.. will the 335xi pipes fit a 535xi?

  • @scubatankgabe546
    @scubatankgabe546 4 года назад +1

    Favorite bmw RUclipsr by far. I have a FBO 135i, but it’s an n55 :( keep up the great content!

    • @jake_spence
      @jake_spence  4 года назад

      Thanks man! I appreciate you. Enjoy that N55 life!

    • @chi_guy
      @chi_guy 4 года назад

      N55 gang!

  • @airs2k
    @airs2k 4 года назад

    I’m happy that you are a logger that has a lift when working on cars. Others spend $$$ on cars and then working under their car like a caveman. So much better this way

  • @busaman1444
    @busaman1444 4 года назад +1

    Love the shirts, just ordered 2!

  • @johnm-vo9cm
    @johnm-vo9cm 3 года назад

    Hi can give information about the flashing lights at the beginning please

  • @jjturner7463
    @jjturner7463 Год назад +2

    tip for next time, don't have music playin at the end of the video while you're finally doing the sound comparisons

  • @sophykim9452
    @sophykim9452 2 года назад

    you don't need to use o2 sensor socket as you already dropped your downpipe. you can use normal socket to remove o2 sensor.

  • @RyZeN37
    @RyZeN37 4 года назад

    And when are you gunna do that valve cover gasket, ive been looking for it

  • @jrduran7321
    @jrduran7321 4 года назад

    Hey whats up buddy quick question where did you get those blink bolds for your headlights i been looking for those

  • @ItsBabaEro
    @ItsBabaEro 4 года назад +2

    Now try doing this on an xDrive n54 car. I had to drop my subframe to do this. Took me a good 5 days to get the whole job done

    • @jake_spence
      @jake_spence  4 года назад

      Yeah, it's a PITA on X-Drive because of the front diff lol.

  • @stazzyjayy7346
    @stazzyjayy7346 4 года назад +3

    I love the content !

  • @checkupcharter
    @checkupcharter 2 года назад

    How did you eliminate the check engine light after you removed the cats? Thanks

  • @Chara-jv4bk
    @Chara-jv4bk 3 года назад

    nice video, we want one a lot like that@Jake Spence😍

  • @Psrrrraj
    @Psrrrraj 3 года назад

    The four replacement bolts and nuts, can you use any or is their a certain type? My kit didn’t come with any and I’m not sure what to use

  • @jonathanbenitez3447
    @jonathanbenitez3447 3 года назад

    So my service and check engine light came on after I did this to my N54.. I’ve been told the O2 sensor eliminator should do the trick.. What do you think ? Any advice ?

  • @andrewf8486
    @andrewf8486 3 года назад

    Is there a way of getting the check engine light to go off. I just don’t want to be driving around with the light on all the time.

  • @tylerwalters5741
    @tylerwalters5741 Год назад

    The grey seal that sits on the inside lip of the turbo, did you replace it or use the oem one?

  • @135ikid6
    @135ikid6 4 года назад

    5:09 😂😂 super unexpected that’s awesome

  • @jackarsenault2216
    @jackarsenault2216 Год назад

    Jake - did you find that the two forward O2 sensors fouled together? Mine are touching with the ARM pipes.

  • @geraltofrivia3890
    @geraltofrivia3890 3 года назад

    So what tools will I be needing to do this swap?

  • @Fix_It_Again_Tony
    @Fix_It_Again_Tony 4 года назад +1

    Looks good. I always loosen the exhaust hanger that bolts to the transmission to allow the exhaust to more easily move towards the back of the car for clearance. Looks like you did this at 6:52 but you didn't mention it.

    • @jake_spence
      @jake_spence  4 года назад

      The hanger for the catback exhaust? Or for the downpipes to mount to? For whatever reason, this car didn't have an exhaust hanger. But I did show loosening the bolts to the downpipe bracket.

    • @Fix_It_Again_Tony
      @Fix_It_Again_Tony 4 года назад

      @@jake_spence I'm talking about the hanger for the exhaust, not the one for the DPs. Looks like the mounting bolts were removed at the timestamp I referenced.

  • @shahins.5012
    @shahins.5012 3 года назад

    Still in the middle of putting mine on and im just gonna say this is way harder than it looks

  • @cmcevill
    @cmcevill 3 года назад

    Bummed the ARM coupon code doesn't work anymore. Grabbing a few things per your recommendations

  • @Chattsteezy
    @Chattsteezy 4 года назад +3

    Yo that cut away got me at 5:12 lol

    • @jake_spence
      @jake_spence  4 года назад

      Even I died laughing at this while editing it lol I'm glad it's appreciated 😂

  • @erikalvarez4516
    @erikalvarez4516 3 года назад

    I had to replace my driveshaft so I had to lower the exhaust and didn't have a chance to get new gaskets (nor time to wait for them to get delivered) from the downpipe to the exhaust and now I am having a few codes. Could the exhaust leak trigger downpipe codes?

  • @JorgeRodriguez-qs1wz
    @JorgeRodriguez-qs1wz 3 года назад +1

    Anyone know rear end power limit before enough start breaking axles on grippy tires

  • @johnguliker771
    @johnguliker771 Год назад +2

    Great info, just finished doing my downpipes. How did you fool the computer, mine keeps throwing O2 codes, emission codes?

  • @azcarpetco3461
    @azcarpetco3461 4 года назад

    What do you think of the motul sport ester 5W-40

  • @Zalle335
    @Zalle335 4 года назад +1

    For seized bolts, or just doing the downpipe swap I''d say just use a dremmel or something to cut it, takes less time than gambling if it works or not loosening it :P

    • @jake_spence
      @jake_spence  4 года назад

      Yeah, that's definitely an option but I knew I'd be able to take care of it this way. But if you're still struggling, a cutoff wheel will go a long way! Unless it's one of the top bolts.

  • @TheAndybear06
    @TheAndybear06 Год назад

    Couldn’t find this in the comments but didn’t look completely. I just bought a 2009 e93 and want to do a few basic bolt ons to get a slightly more aggressive sound. Nothing too crazy. Do I need to tune after installing these?

  • @romallisedwards7025
    @romallisedwards7025 3 года назад

    Moving to Michigan soon. Hopefully we can meet and make some bmw content together

  • @javi_335i
    @javi_335i 3 года назад

    So what the difference between VRSF and ARM? I need to get downpipes and a 7.5 FMIC and was thinking about going with VRSF. Any reason I should get ARM?

  • @qx4n9e1xp
    @qx4n9e1xp 4 года назад +2

    The bad thing about buying an n54 with mods already on it (downpipes, exhaust, intercooler, tune) is I can't compare to how it was stock, but I did save money!!

    • @jake_spence
      @jake_spence  4 года назад +1

      True, but I think you did the right thing. So expensive to modify your own car. If you know what you want, buy something that is *properly* built first.

    • @qx4n9e1xp
      @qx4n9e1xp 4 года назад

      @@jake_spence Hey, thanks for the reply!
      Shout out from Chicago!

  • @Carlos-ro4ji
    @Carlos-ro4ji Год назад

    Hey Jake had a quick question maybe you can answer.. I have a 535i N54, and wanted to install catted Dp’s. Here in Georgia they have emission test.. Will I gain some power with the catted Dp’s. I know catless ones are better.
    I will be going stage 2 MHD. Just numbers will I gain more Hp?

  • @sircut
    @sircut 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for the vid. How did you get rid of the constant check engine light?

    • @jake_spence
      @jake_spence  4 года назад +2

      Still dealing with it for now. JB4 used to have an auto-clear function but it seems that doesn't work anymore. I think loading a JB4/MHD BEF will eliminate the code for catless downpipes. Otherwise there are wired in DP fix options.

  • @planitoffice7686
    @planitoffice7686 3 года назад

    Hi, I'm still running on stock electronics (no MHD and no JB4) ... yet do you thing I will get any codes by removing the Cats ?

  • @RyZeN37
    @RyZeN37 4 года назад

    Will these work for 2008
    n54 535xi? Just got mine and looking to do some stuff on it

  • @mohammedramirez6574
    @mohammedramirez6574 3 года назад

    I bought used downpipes with no bolts nuts or whatsoever so I bought a kit but each pipe has 2 o2 sensor holes what size bolt can I use to close it?

  • @exiteternium
    @exiteternium Месяц назад

    EPA wants to know your location
    I'll stick with the highflows thanks, less likely to get an EPA fine.

  • @punkboy459
    @punkboy459 4 года назад

    Just curious why do you still use jb4 instead stage 2+ on MHD?

  • @jarrettg6634
    @jarrettg6634 3 года назад

    Would this be about the same process for the 535?

  • @clarissarosenbauer1151
    @clarissarosenbauer1151 4 года назад +1

    Nice!

  • @bsm_e9217
    @bsm_e9217 4 года назад

    Tips for doing this without a lift?

  • @lovefud3018
    @lovefud3018 Год назад

    Does the check engine light turn on with downpipes? O2 sensors

  • @wolffemergencyresponsellc.3152

    What color was the 02 sensor for front and rear.

  • @turbo8433
    @turbo8433 6 месяцев назад +1

    Do u have to tune if you do down pipes on 135i ?

  • @jonathanbonnett133
    @jonathanbonnett133 3 года назад

    What can I use if I don’t have an O2 sensor socket?

  • @jaimegrieve9194
    @jaimegrieve9194 4 года назад

    Hi. what about N55 catless downpipe? I saw ARM Motorsports web page and can´t find it. Do you know where can I find it?

  • @boosttapperformance8673
    @boosttapperformance8673 2 года назад

    What lift is that you are using and where can I get that?

  • @1991june
    @1991june 3 года назад +1

    with the catless dps does it smell like gas in the cockpit?

  • @miguelmartin2472
    @miguelmartin2472 3 года назад

    I love the 1 series

  • @angeloramos50
    @angeloramos50 3 года назад

    What did you do with the secondary cats?