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  • Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
  • Out of 81 countries, 15-year-olds in Singapore topped the Pisa table in reading, math and science. But how important are these metrics in a world where social and creative skills have become critical and artificial intelligence is taking centre stage?
    Steven Chia gets answers from Liew Wei Li, director-general of education at the Ministry of Education, associate professor Jason Tan from the National Institute of Education, and parent of two and lecturer, Ian Tan.
    0:00 Intro
    1:46 Why maths and science are important
    5:36 Learning in the age of AI
    9:32 Teaching soft skills
    13:59 Convincing parents to change mindsets
    20:01 Rethinking the role of education
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Комментарии • 152

  • @lohwpr
    @lohwpr 5 месяцев назад +10

    It is more than just the usefulness of Math and Science. It is the training to enable a mind to think logically and systematically. This training enables the student to pursue whatever discipline he/she chooses.

  • @sujoyroy3157
    @sujoyroy3157 5 месяцев назад +36

    Singaporean education does not encourage thinking out of the box and taking risks. We have so much emphasis on STEM but hardly any innovators. One good thing in the recent past is that Singapore educators are thinking and are open to new ideas and change.

    • @karmanho5004
      @karmanho5004 5 месяцев назад +4

      That is why America is the lighthouse of the world for innovation and patent creditor

    • @Maris_S28
      @Maris_S28 5 месяцев назад

      I think our leaders need to decide if they need more of native homegrown movers and shakers in the world stage than ordinary worker bees . There is a need to create the right nurturing environment for that starting from elementary school and everyday life.
      Creativity and risks taking doesn’t even begin to flourish when the fish bowl is filled with too many rules and resulting morbid fear of stepping outside the square.
      Innovation is not really creativity but invention is and it can’t germinate in a stifling environment.

    • @nfuryboss
      @nfuryboss 4 месяца назад

      American 18-30-year-olds can create startups and expand on innovative ideas.
      Can Singaporean culture and society have such openness and trust in our youths to expand on a "can do" attitude?
      One thing is that American culture and society are willing to believe and bet on 20-year-olds with investments from VCs.
      For them, failure is an acceptable bet.
      Let's take OpenAI, Sam Altman for example. You can also use Bill Gates as well for that matter as well.
      "Altman attended Stanford University, where he studied computer science. He dropped out after two years, saying later that he had learned more playing poker with classmates than he had attending lectures by professors. He told The New York Times in 2023 that poker taught him “how to notice patterns in people over time, how to make decisions with very imperfect information….It’s a great game.”
      In 2005, after leaving Stanford, he founded Loopt, an app that allowed users to share their location with friends. Loopt was one of the first companies to receive funding from start-up accelerator Y Combinator. Although Loopt attracted partnerships with wireless carriers such as Sprint, it failed to attract users, and in 2012 it was acquired by the banking company Green Dot for $43 million."
      In my opinion, having a solid STEM education in Singapore is important but not enough.
      A society that are willing to allow the younger generation to take risks and innovate is very important.
      Singaporean youths and entrepreneurs must be allowed to create, fail, and retry.

  • @Kalimatullah_Yoh1-1.14
    @Kalimatullah_Yoh1-1.14 5 месяцев назад +13

    Not always abt grades but the process of training your brain, risiliency, work-life balance application. open mindset to be able to see thingsfrom many sides. most importantly character building to be hardworking and not be lazy. So MOE shd create school curriculum to build these up instead of just focusing on books and theories. Having teachers to remind students on these is good. Bringing in field specialist to inspire and let students learn on applications

  • @ewmurphy
    @ewmurphy 5 месяцев назад +35

    Host has a more open, broader mindset than the experts.

    • @anandnair5223
      @anandnair5223 5 месяцев назад +3

      Experts? Book smart but not street smart.

    • @ysngngys7753
      @ysngngys7753 5 месяцев назад

      @@anandnair5223Put u up there? KBW

    • @thomasthetrainful
      @thomasthetrainful 5 месяцев назад +2

      Agree. Experts always have their own bias agenda. I cannot bear to listen to this entire bullshit.

    • @tmyllck2485
      @tmyllck2485 3 месяца назад +1

      Totally agree! The experts maybe have to speak to align with their bosses' direction.

  • @kokliangchew3609
    @kokliangchew3609 5 месяцев назад +15

    I had a relative who was a professor in the medical department of NUS. At one time, he was handling PhD students and they included supervising Singaporean students who were supposed to be the cream of their crop. Yet, he said, he had the most problems with these Singaporean PhD students because they would call him as soon as they faced a problem in their research. Despite constantly reminding them that they should only call him as a last resort and not a first resort if they faced a problem in their research, they persisted in doing so. However, he said that his China PhD students were totally different. They would attack their problems in a multitude of ways, and it was only when they really could not resolve it then, would they call him for advice.

    • @user-qd8yg1fp7i
      @user-qd8yg1fp7i 5 месяцев назад

      Exactly

    • @jqwoo
      @jqwoo 5 месяцев назад +1

      Your example sample is far too low to make such comments! You should use LARGE Data to summarise your finding! Viola!

    • @dufreversi42
      @dufreversi42 3 месяца назад

      Maybe thats the outcome of sending students to tuition. They always have a teacher to ask for answers.

    • @noeliachoque6779
      @noeliachoque6779 Месяц назад

      @@jqwoo Don't take it personal...

  • @thee_others
    @thee_others 5 месяцев назад +4

    Scrape grades and exams, award based on commercial value and creativity. Not a slight change, but a radical change.

  • @sommmeguy
    @sommmeguy 5 месяцев назад +10

    Well, it's more useful than NOT being the best at math and science like our failing schools and society.

  • @mintan9601
    @mintan9601 5 месяцев назад +8

    Very true, Jason. Our students are good in taking tests and exams but lack EQ and social skills.
    After going through the rungs of academia and you land your job, the tests of getting along with your team-mates, etc...
    I'm always sad that our young generation is lacking basic skills in politeness and grace. Especially when they go out in the world to earn pocket money during vacations. Compared to their counterparts in other parts of the world. Smiling with confidence, looking the other person in the eye and saying Good morning, I'm ... Thank you...
    Our youths are socially awkward.

  • @jk35260
    @jk35260 5 месяцев назад +3

    Not enough without ability to apply. Application of knowledge is a higher order cognitive skill that requires observation skill and pattern recognition.
    Keep learning interesting and challenging as well.

  • @ownthegame3
    @ownthegame3 5 месяцев назад +2

    This is part of many parents and students having a narrow focus on getting good PSLE scores, O Levels etc. such as having MT as 1st language, having 3rd language and doing well in their CCAs. It is an achievement treadmill and a mega factory where everyone is about the same and believes that there is a same ruler to measure life.
    Many went on to become chefs, hairstylists, artists, business owners, RUclipsrs or any paths less travelled by many.
    Let's have more pathways.

    • @ysngngys7753
      @ysngngys7753 5 месяцев назад

      narrow...focused...get it deep n satisfied...sounds logical ya.

  • @maomao180
    @maomao180 5 месяцев назад +5

    It’s a good thing to be proud of but there are many other aspects we can do better with regard to our education system.

  • @engkiatpoh9696
    @engkiatpoh9696 5 месяцев назад +5

    Msths good only because it can be drill and practice over time.
    Logic thinking application in real world is questionable.
    Where are the Nobel Prize winners?

    • @underwaterindianguy509
      @underwaterindianguy509 5 месяцев назад

      now i feel insignificant as though my hard work in school is wasted :(

  • @christopherk7920
    @christopherk7920 5 месяцев назад +6

    this is base purely on my own experience, ALL my close relatives and friends who excelled in physics & math went on to do very well in their career although a few didn't have very good interpersonal skills. I on the other hand did pretty ok in math but flunk my physics in high school 😂

  • @caiby48
    @caiby48 5 месяцев назад +4

    So many top academic are leading the world now and the world are not getting any better. However, without good academic education, one just couldn’t lead the world and will be even worse .

  • @smling11
    @smling11 5 месяцев назад +6

    Problem that most raised are the NOT problem of our education system. It is the problem of the society and the government policy. Those attributes that people crying we lack are not recognised, nor rewarded in our society. It is extremely tough to be enterprising, plus plus plus, in Singapore, because these are not rewarded nor afforable in a city with high cost, small market, GLCs and MNCs favored, ......

  • @weikwanglee4383
    @weikwanglee4383 5 месяцев назад +6

    Maths and Science are like languages, the common connector to a whole separate worlds for each individual to expand their understanding of their spaces and needs.

    • @LonganLee
      @LonganLee 5 месяцев назад

      But what's the topic? It's not about the need or merits of learning these subjects. It's about why top in maths and science but no Elon Musk

    • @weikwanglee4383
      @weikwanglee4383 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@LonganLee ha ha. You need to really study this Elon Musk thingy.
      Elon Musk is a lot of hype. Super hype. Creation of not maths and Science. Maths and Science is properly only 5%, of his personal standing. Loads of his present position were from the fruits of others.
      That is , you want Elon Musk in Singapore. You need to break down what you can learn to be the next Elon .
      Better still , an indepth study of all the billionaire greats .
      Perhaps , you have an idea of what you need , and what not to do.
      Without Maths , Science, you cannot understand and unlock the massive libraries of previous work done by generations before you.
      Please note. I am not saying these unlocked data are 100%useful, but they are worth your understanding in a knee jerk for you to find your direction.
      That's why you need maths and Science. Better to have than nor.
      Back to Elon. You need to understand human activities and money. That's about 70% behind the name Elon.
      Without money. There won't be Elon.
      Without market players using Elon with loads of Hype, and Elon part taking in the rides , there won't be money.
      Without a point of US politics shifting US governmental money and talents into SpaceX , there won't be SpaceX of the last few years.
      It's the deals behind the scene.
      Without , Elon doing his Shanghai thingy , allowed by China, Telsa would had been taken apart by production crisis and failed.
      All these are above economics, they are market plays. The human activity maneuvers to include massive hypes .
      Without stock market plays, Elon cannot have his billions.
      You really need to suss out your target objects.

  • @Maris_S28
    @Maris_S28 5 месяцев назад +3

    Keep Pisa as an indicator.
    Our education system must be well-rounded, grounded in civics and morality and also must always equip our citizens with what is necessary for securing jobs and personal development.
    I believe one of the worst thing that any student fear is a wasted life spent on pursuing an education and acquiring vocational qualifications that leads to a dead end. Citizens’ livelihoods, career aspirations and advancement must at all times be and are protected for peace and stability in all well-governed 1st world countries.

    • @LonganLee
      @LonganLee 5 месяцев назад

      Too late already , after 60 years🤭🏳️🏳️🏳️

  • @PL-lt3wz
    @PL-lt3wz 3 месяца назад

    It shows that they know how to think and could be useful for problem-solving in professional working life.

  • @hiroyukishinichi9873
    @hiroyukishinichi9873 5 месяцев назад +2

    No one should listen to someone saying “being great at math and science is not useful”. Same for “math and science are the only things that matter.” Strike a better balance. “Math and science are always important and useful and being at the top in those fields can only be a good thing. BUT not everyone can be and need to be great at those two fields to be useful to society. Contribute in your best way, be it through arts or music” case closed⭕️

  • @dominiquelaurain6427
    @dominiquelaurain6427 5 месяцев назад

    Great debate. We miss such debate in my country because we are late with thinking about modern education and taking decisions. Still crying while reading the poor results of PISA ;-) At the dawn of my computer science engineer carreer, I will prepare for sharing my knowledge (maths and computer science) in France and Thailand...and maybe in Singapore : I plan to build a very small cloud for free teaching, kind of an atom ONG ;-)....and Singapore is hosting some cloud farms (obviously on the silk road of internet submarine cables).

  • @rakyatprihatin
    @rakyatprihatin 5 месяцев назад +7

    More important is how to apply. Look at Malaysia, they may not fare well in maths and science in pisa grading. But i see the people there are more creative, innovative, flexible and more hands on.
    Fare well in written driving test is very different from actual driving skill.

    • @1965Singaporean
      @1965Singaporean 5 месяцев назад +3

      😂😂😂 apply so well still remain 3rd worlds with so much more natural resources than SG.

    • @Maris_S28
      @Maris_S28 5 месяцев назад +1

      I think it’s comparatively more laize faire there in Malaysia but not at the same degree as Hongkong of the bygone years . Creativity and resiliency to failure doesn’t come from hierarchical rigidity, unforgiving bankruptcy laws and unhelpful definitive societal norms, expectations and stigmas.
      Seriously, being good at these 3 subjects is a vital fundamental for lifelong personal safety, growth and self-actualisation.So yes, l believe that Pisa indicators is also certainly helpful in knowing how well our students are equipped, and a rough indicator of the potential to advance as a nation.
      But, there is clearly a vivid difference between an educated mind and a trained mind. The desired outcome should be an educated person who is not just someone who went to school and received whatever subsequent professional training and skills,
      but more importantly what he does in relation to others - whether society is going to be a more rather than a less gracious and equitable one. Hence, l think our education system should also put emphasis on civics and morality- it’s pointless if society is just a sterile system of constant pursuit of materialism and worldly values. I disagree that parents should leave everything to their children without some guidance as parenting cannot be delegated away to anyone and certainly not to the world at large.

    • @rakyatprihatin
      @rakyatprihatin 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​​​​@@1965Singaporean Apparently comparatively relatively true, Singapore has a good governance government and people, on the other hand Malaysia is in the other way round with politicians continue playing the racial and religion sentiment as a pivot for their own political advantage.
      I praise the group of extraordinary good people before and now in Singapore government with a pragmatic leader in his determination to provide a recipe for a successful Singapore.
      In short, Singapore has adopted a pragmatic approach to policy formulation which entails “a willingness to introduce new policies or modify existing ones as circumstances dictate, regardless of ideological principle”

  • @AlgoNudger
    @AlgoNudger 5 месяцев назад +3

    Mathematical Sciences is a *MUST!* 😊

  • @daddyraffles7083
    @daddyraffles7083 5 месяцев назад

    just on paper? And exam paper results?
    Benefits for entire industry and economy?

  • @user-tl1vx8yg8l
    @user-tl1vx8yg8l 5 месяцев назад +5

    If top is not useful... Then bottom more useful?

  • @KevanMajere33
    @KevanMajere33 5 месяцев назад +1

    To those who says the achievement does not matter or has no real life impact, please continue to think and act that way.

  • @zhameershahismail5339
    @zhameershahismail5339 5 месяцев назад +2

    Where do they stand on manners and behaviour ?

  • @jqwoo
    @jqwoo 5 месяцев назад

    1) SG Edu is improving years after years 2) A few complaints by someone enjoying such practice are normal as they are just a few minority. 3) SG is competing with the world for excellency. 4) It is impossible to please everyone, so majority wins! Viola.

  • @nicklee7002
    @nicklee7002 5 месяцев назад +4

    ChatGPT also top in most subjects; just human fed information.

  • @ArabicReja973
    @ArabicReja973 5 месяцев назад +5

    How does an authoritarian surveillance regime affect *people's brains?*
    - Taiwan🇹🇼, 20 million people, has 4 Nobel Prizes: 3 Physics and 1 Chemistry.
    - China🇨🇳, 1.4 billion people, 70 times the population of Taiwan, has only 3 prizes: one Peace, one Literature, and one Medical.
    - 6 prizes for people with Chinese origins *not living in China.*

    • @ysngngys7753
      @ysngngys7753 5 месяцев назад

      Relation? Or correlation?

    • @redbeansg
      @redbeansg 5 месяцев назад +2

      Stupidity has no cure.
      The award of prizes by western organisations often are political in nature. Also, historically, China was invaded and impoverished by the invaders for more than a century. Mass education in science and technology only started in late 1970s. Today, many of the world's top scientists are in China but would not be given their due recognition.
      Heard of Qian Xue Sen? There are hundreds if not thousands of Chinese scientists of his calibre in China and in the West. Qian was not given any prize or recognition by the West. But his contribution in science and technology in China dwarfed many prizes winners in their fields.
      Just look at all the scientific innovations and products coming out from China, Quantum physics, 5G/6G, modern chips, infrastructure engineering, EVs, EV batteries, space technology etc etc.
      Under President Xi, China lifted more than 800m people out of absolute poverty, turned a poor nation into an economic super power, no prizes. Obama given the Peace Prize before he started work as POTUS and went on to start many wars.

    • @SW-fy8pq
      @SW-fy8pq 4 месяца назад

      It is a foolish comparison. Back then China was a closed country, after that they were invaded by Japan and western powers, after that civil wars. When there was no food and lodging, how could you invent?

    • @SW-fy8pq
      @SW-fy8pq 4 месяца назад

      This fellow’s brain must have been brainwashed by western politicians and media. If authoritarian regime is so horrible, why the US partners with Saudi? You should go Saudi and live there to experience it. If communist is so terrible, why does the US so desperate to befriend with Vietnam? Anyway, China and Vietnam are the same but they are not communist, North Korea is.

  • @sparklingscent13
    @sparklingscent13 2 месяца назад

    I used to work at MOE. I asked two different D-G of education, the same question and yet both times, got unsatisfactory answers. Simple question. Why do we keep having classes of 40 students in neighbourhood schools when elite schools like RGS, RI, HCI and other brand-name schools, often cap their student numbers per class to 25?! Why do we even have students in the normal-technical stream, who are the weakest students, cramped into classes with 40 students? They should be the ones who get the smallest teacher-student ratios. Another issue is that we have such a stressful education system where even primary one pupils are expected to be able to write 150-word compositions. Yet, we accept many students from neighbouring countries into our universities. These students have gone through a less rigorous education system, yet they can make it into NUS/NTU. So, what is the point of our own kids being stressed from P1 to JC2?

  • @kialim
    @kialim 5 месяцев назад +4

    What about the humanities? Art, dance, literature, and music? If STEM is so great, why do we get emotionally stirred when we hear moving music or songs? Why do we cry when watching a touching scene from a movie.

  • @canadianbull17
    @canadianbull17 5 месяцев назад

    All very good comments here, thank you

  • @Emotion-3642
    @Emotion-3642 5 месяцев назад +1

    What the use when end stressed and getting mental issue .

  • @TheKivifreak
    @TheKivifreak 5 месяцев назад

    Just my two cents but I think you need a whole subject that is only focused on learning one particular thing in deep detail.
    For example an experienced mushroom grower can then teach for 6 years about mushrooms. Then the children will understand how deep a topic can be and where they can apply all these skills they learn in their own niche.
    Lots of children feel like education is done after the msc degree but in many cases it’s just starting.

  • @hipstercamper
    @hipstercamper 5 месяцев назад +3

    Singaporean are very well educated. They have a strong foundation. We just need a case studies on how to use such knowledge into practice. Real world experience is crucial. One muslim scholar once told "You study to learn, and experience to understand."

  • @bangthingneng9433
    @bangthingneng9433 5 месяцев назад +1

    The Knowledge, Informations, Maths & Science are all close knitted entities like 4 brothers. Without one would cripple/handicap the others. In a nutshell, incomplete in every sense.
    How would one sense to live in this modern world today without any one of them. The answer is primitive agrarian society . Indeed, even in modern days, the 4 pillars mentioned above are compulsory in agricultural. To advance ahead & be competitive. Without the 4 elements mentioned , today, agriculture may not succeed.
    More so, for countries without land resources , research is pivotal to progression. Therefore, Math & Science are necessity & compulsory. They plays key roles in research. These are the ways to go about developments.

  • @WristHunt
    @WristHunt 5 месяцев назад +1

    The host is asking the right questions. Struggling answers.. but you know what. Our education system is handicapped that way, we don't have the right answers because we need to first admit there is something wrong. Once we are done with the circular arguments, then we will be ready for real change. I hope it happens.

  • @audreygiamlayhoon
    @audreygiamlayhoon 5 месяцев назад +1

    We should learn to celebrate successes 🎉

  • @sankarayavoo7460
    @sankarayavoo7460 5 месяцев назад +3

    Finnish school system is good for children. Children here are overworked for nothing. Let a child have more play. It's when you complicate an education, to prove to no one, the children are on the receiving end. A home is not a place to do 'homework'. Finish your schooling in school. If you can't, change the system to do so.

  • @brainpedagogy
    @brainpedagogy 3 месяца назад

    And the index of mental health problems in Singapore is relatively high.

  • @madelinehuang2391
    @madelinehuang2391 2 месяца назад

    I hope schools will include financial and media literacy in their curriculum

  • @Bye-xb3ob
    @Bye-xb3ob 5 месяцев назад

    Korea also has high math ability only for tests. But the Nobel Prize is... These days, mothers even manage their children's stress with a supplement called mind forest. I don't know if it exists in Singapore, too

  • @jiadong7873
    @jiadong7873 2 месяца назад

    very useful

  • @SoYappy
    @SoYappy 5 месяцев назад +3

    For someone who used live in Singapore more than 10 years the one thing they need to improve at school public speaking. Their students generally can’t articulate well in public. Also please encourage students to do community services.

  • @kimchiba4570
    @kimchiba4570 5 месяцев назад

    Singapore education system.is good but like everything else not perfect and requires constant improvements. The emphasis on the rigorous training in languages and mathematics must not flounder and these are the building blocks for all academic endeavours and mental contrivances

  • @YMWong-cb6ke
    @YMWong-cb6ke 5 месяцев назад

    They say that Singaporeans are top in maths and science. I would like to question: how are the students selected to represent Singapore? If we choose the better students to represent us, while others choose them ramdomly across the whole spectrum of students, then I am not surprise you get better results. Are students of the same age group being taught the same things?
    e.g. Malaysian students study 11 years to take the 'O' level; Singaporeans take 10 years if they are from the express stream. Maybe certain topics we have already cover, they have not; so they therefore cannot answer them. Do we send only our express students, no NA or NT students to represent us?

    • @Ennnn.jenn.
      @Ennnn.jenn. 5 месяцев назад

      Not any exp 😂they probably sent exp students from prestigious school 😂😂

    • @YMWong-cb6ke
      @YMWong-cb6ke 5 месяцев назад

      Yes, I would suspect. They are always kiasu; must win if not have to answer to people at the top. So they are not competing fairly against others and when the results are out, they praise themselves to the sky. Singaporean mentality. @@Ennnn.jenn.

  • @fabianeng8605
    @fabianeng8605 5 месяцев назад +2

    What bragging rights do we have when we are poorly ranked at the Maths Olympiad (higher level mathematics) consistently behind Vietnam (meaning we are not no 1 in SEA) ?

    • @ditsygirl5409
      @ditsygirl5409 5 месяцев назад

      I think if 1% of Vietnam produces genius, they will have 970,000 geniuses compare to 1% of Singapore producing only 38,000 geniuses. You shouldn’t compare because population size matters.

    • @fabianeng8605
      @fabianeng8605 5 месяцев назад

      @@ditsygirl5409 My pt is we have no bragging rights since we are not the best in SEA. No pt always saying we are best at primary school and secondary school levels when our higher level best students lose out to others at grade 11 to grade 12 levels and this fact is never or seldom reported.

    • @ditsygirl5409
      @ditsygirl5409 5 месяцев назад

      @@fabianeng8605 I don’t really get your point. These two events (PISA and Math Olympiad) are totally different in size and scale. One looks at average stem skills of students from a country and the other is a specialised contest of a few top mathematician genius that represent their country. What i saw from the PISA result is that on average, Singaporeans have very good literacy, math and science skills across the board that rivals the rest of the world and it’s important for Singapore to have highly skilled people in STEM subject to survive in the increasingly competitive world. The Math Olympiad is limited to only 6-8 contestants that’s like the most brilliant pre-university mathematician from the country and let me re-iterate again that Vietnam is a country with a population of 97 million while we only have 3.5 million Singaporeans and the probability to find top unrivalled math genius is so much higher in Vietnam than in Singapore due to their sheer size.

  • @eddyr1041
    @eddyr1041 5 месяцев назад

    Good debate 😊

  • @Dodof.usa1
    @Dodof.usa1 5 месяцев назад +3

    Best mathematics students are in China 🇨🇳.

  • @MrBoliao98
    @MrBoliao98 5 месяцев назад +3

    No use, you rather send your bright mind to be dentist instead of being doctor. And then, you say no doctor import doctor with lousier training than our own Singaporean. Like seriously, you think Myanmar and Filipino doctors go through the rigors of our education, wake up.

  • @LonganLee
    @LonganLee 5 месяцев назад +2

    I wonder the teacher on creativity has anything to show that he knows what he is talking about? Is he subservient?

    • @markweedesign
      @markweedesign 5 месяцев назад

      Someone who has true credibility on the topic of creativity, in understanding the science and research of it should speak and not him.

    • @LonganLee
      @LonganLee 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@markweedesign ya, he need to show he can walk the talk first. It's like some perceive that Leadership can be learnt by reading from a book. That's human genius right there. 🤣🤭Has he invented Tesla model X? Lithium battery? Google? How about anything? 🤣🤣🤭🤭🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️ What kind of teacher are we getting? Why grades good but nothing world best invention to show? Oh, wait, I correct myself. COE is the greatest revenue generator imho. And no country adopted it after about 30, years or so. But I may be inventing a new COE. All rights reserved. It performs exactly the same without costing a cent .

  • @Naturallyhealthy2024
    @Naturallyhealthy2024 5 месяцев назад

    We train our kids to do well in these subjects and topics. As IQ increase , EQ erodes. Empathy, compassion and creativity erodes.

  • @ysngngys7753
    @ysngngys7753 5 месяцев назад

    Yes. Singaporean must be trained well in Maths and Science to logically address questions such as "If Ti*To* access the user's WIFI network?", "If one is a member of the C*P?...and not put his country's education system to shame. Such questions will crash AI, but a S'porean to remain sound.

  • @deschan2246
    @deschan2246 5 месяцев назад +2

    Academic success does not equate to Reality success. Singapore do not produce any significant international individual.

  • @karmanho5004
    @karmanho5004 5 месяцев назад

    English is common Singapore society language whereas Malaysia only a few rich families kids would be very high English Proficiency compared to middle and low income Malaysian family kid. Singaporean should credit to Mr Lee Kuan Yew and forefathers of first generation in Singapore. Able to speak English affluently and confidently. Most important fly high in International Stage.

    • @anti-affiliatetrader5143
      @anti-affiliatetrader5143 5 месяцев назад

      "fluently" not "affluently"
      "speak English affluently" Mmmyea, that makes a lot of sense! 🤣
      "Singaporeans" not "Singaporean"

  • @PIT72100
    @PIT72100 3 месяца назад

    It is better to be intelligent than ignorance ......even in the future.......................

  • @danielwly1703
    @danielwly1703 5 месяцев назад

    Bear in mind Goodhart's law.

  • @coolocean11
    @coolocean11 5 месяцев назад

    So are we lack of talents? Or must incl the foreign as a whole package to be more atas? Pls look into foreign HR professionals that are on a raise and hiring their own country men.

  • @pythagorastheorem5965
    @pythagorastheorem5965 4 месяца назад

    A missed opportunity here. You have the D-G of Education at MOE and a Assoc Prof from NIE on your panel. But all this podcast managed to get in 30 mins from them are motherhood statements, which do not go into any depth. Perhaps that is one of the issues with our education system - the standards of critical thinking, the ability to ask the right questions and to probe further and deeper into an issue. Improve this aspect and, hopefully, we get better standards of journalism and a more robust, informed and meaningful discussion on this podcast.

  • @lambertois11
    @lambertois11 5 месяцев назад +1

    It is widely recognized that Emotional Intelligence (the ability to easily interact with others) has a more impact on a person professional carer than high scores in reading, math and science!

    • @lambertois11
      @lambertois11 5 месяцев назад +1

      This especially true if a person job requires interacting with people of different culture!

  • @jagangovinraj2024
    @jagangovinraj2024 5 месяцев назад +2

    Being a citizen working among foreigners from neighbouring and developing countries; system relying heavily of foreign talent whereby even your course trainer also mostly not a local breed please enlighten me where the stem of our quality system driving us.

  • @user-qd8yg1fp7i
    @user-qd8yg1fp7i 5 месяцев назад

    Still waiting for an authentic Sg grown nobel winner...

  • @zerodegreescelsius
    @zerodegreescelsius 5 месяцев назад

    In school, your life is all about standardised tests and cookie-cutter projects. Nerds and specialists are showered with awards and scholarships.
    In the real world, it's all about networking, attitude and soft skills. People who get along well with others thrive while lone wolves (even the most powerful ones) struggle.
    Talk about the disconnect.

  • @raoplns
    @raoplns 5 месяцев назад +2

    Experts are talking so academic....no wonder with these experts, our students remain academic....🥴....kids aren't supposed to solve a problem in their way but only in the way the teacher taught...so where is out of box..only compliance....first teachers need to change before they can teach new age skills

  • @mpdmpd8118
    @mpdmpd8118 5 месяцев назад +1

    if its just a textboook its just common nothing special about PISA... XD..next 10yrs many job can replace by AI...and overload freshgrad student. paying too much for education is bad investment

  • @siewchoolow3191
    @siewchoolow3191 5 месяцев назад

    My daughter was in Gifted Class program way back! The program follows the American way of teaching if I say it correctly and I find it good!🤗👍

  • @seemsegit
    @seemsegit 5 месяцев назад

    useful to get iron rice bowl gvmt jobs, be a paper general, for parents to flex their kids, forever be a corporate slave etc

  • @Ennnn.jenn.
    @Ennnn.jenn. 5 месяцев назад

    Idc im striving for academic sucess

  • @TMM-N
    @TMM-N 5 месяцев назад

    If they are top, but why arent they becoming asia’s silicon valley? Infact now india is no.1

  • @mojazzz284
    @mojazzz284 3 месяца назад

    It's useless when FTs are given the priority in job hunt

  • @ImperialArmour
    @ImperialArmour 5 месяцев назад

    You are comparing fundamental skills of math, language, and science to higher order of problem solving, creativity, and communication. The rankings are an objective measure of these base skills.
    Also, who do you think wrote these AI tools and made technology so accessible? That's right, people who are strong in these fundamental skills.

  • @pingpong1089
    @pingpong1089 5 месяцев назад

    Just a paper to get a job in govt sector

  • @bl1204
    @bl1204 5 месяцев назад +1

    I have always thought the relentless education system that focus only on grades might be surpressing Singapore's young people's creativity

  • @James-mc5hc
    @James-mc5hc 5 месяцев назад

    There is no room for Singaporean children to excel in practical mechatronics. Theoretical studies are far from applied mechs.

  • @ivanlimzg
    @ivanlimzg 5 месяцев назад

    ⬆️ IQ, ⬇️EQ

  • @Confidence_and_Fitness
    @Confidence_and_Fitness 5 месяцев назад +1

    are experts pap controlled?

  • @k.k.c8670
    @k.k.c8670 5 месяцев назад +3

    What's the point? Government (PAP, GLC's and SAF) either wants to hire them all or ask them to go learn under some two bit foreign talents hailing from some small villages.

    • @k.k.c8670
      @k.k.c8670 5 месяцев назад +1

      @hieveryone2003 well, the government is fond of bringing in hordes of FTs with dubious qualifications and experience to 'teach' highly educated Singaporeans how to work. 👍. You must be an ah neh? What village?

    • @LonganLee
      @LonganLee 5 месяцев назад +1

      Grades mean nothing and I can prove it :
      1. Technological Prowess : which Singaporeans invented the greatest technology in the world? So what does grades in maths and science translate into achievements the real world? There is a mismatch. This is not Flattering to Singapore but please, the truth does not owe you.
      Where is the freedom to express ourselves ? To be politically correct I would say it's not absolutely no freedom. But you get my point. People don't even know why expressions relate to Innovation.
      Many will, without trying anything , just say it's Bo Bian. Every policy is regarded Bo Bian by many. Reason is psychological. Fear of being seen to criticize , question flaws and so they avoid or escape from Confronting the authorities or policies by way of speaking up and discussing with public or publicly discuss.
      Bo Bian is intellectually dishonest because it's a LIE when there are solutions but deemed No Solution by many. It's a SURRENDER Mentality which insults democracy.
      The most famous Creativity, imho, from Singapore is the COE which over the many decades have collected billions if not more and many won't ever challenge it allowing it to continue by saying "Aiya, Bo Bian one😅"
      If, I say if, if many Singaporeans deem all policies cannot be or must not be challenged or questioned, do they have the courage or aptitude to Afford Democracy? If one dare not do anything and can only accept out of fear, is he able to perform the duty of a Democratic citizen or more suitable as China citizen?

  • @russellteo-ix4im
    @russellteo-ix4im 5 месяцев назад +3

    Singapore education system, best in producing future Gojek driver

  • @ivanlee7657
    @ivanlee7657 5 месяцев назад +2

    3 dinosaurs talking about future of cutting age tech....

  • @qlbb
    @qlbb 5 месяцев назад

    I support the host. store of knowledge is very old way, openminded is more important in Singapore society!
    And for Math and Science, as long as you go for exam; there are plenty of experts are training those kids who attend exam how to answer the questions !

    • @qlbb
      @qlbb 5 месяцев назад

      and for AI, i’m learning coding now. i didn’t score well when I was young. however it won’t affect my understanding those code and analysis the outcome when I lean it now

    • @qlbb
      @qlbb 5 месяцев назад +1

      some more, I really hate educator who say “I don’t look at my kids homework”. So do you means that none of your family member won’t watch kids homework, you don’t send them to tuition, you won’t read to them at night, you won’t explain them the knowledge that I puzzled during class time?
      No, u should look your kids homework. you can only understand singapore’s education In this way !

  • @leechangming700
    @leechangming700 4 месяца назад

    Spend some time looking at the mushrooming of tuition centres in housing estate. What has gone wrong with schoolings. Ironically we have many teachers also teaching at tuition centres.
    It is sad to see Kids spend their weekends congregating at tuition centres..

  • @John-kv2ec
    @John-kv2ec 5 месяцев назад +3

    Top in math and science but all jobs still need source to FT …

  • @guruchoykokkee
    @guruchoykokkee 5 месяцев назад

    Well only useful in Singapore education. The way most of our leaders and decision makers all along think of it is important. Some of the speakers are out of context. The world has changed and they are still in their own caves. Then again the panel speakers invited are credible domain experts on the topic in question if not CNA wouldn't have invited them. 😅 Rather absurd that such naive education experts are being invited while you should ask the industry instead.

  • @norman6499
    @norman6499 5 месяцев назад +1

    If u include china, korea, japan in the competition then singapore are not the top….stop all these self delusional competition plsss

  • @ItmeAno
    @ItmeAno 5 месяцев назад

    0 make you hero...

  • @LonganLee
    @LonganLee 5 месяцев назад +1

    Many are waiting for instructions and approval to speakup🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️🤣🤣🤣🤣. Too much tough love lah. Too late already after 60 years. Bo Bian one lah🤭🤭🏳️🏳️🏳️. For me, i am waiting for permission to think. I tell myself not to think critically lest i be critical of policies. Bo Bian one lah. Too late already after 60 years

    • @LonganLee
      @LonganLee 5 месяцев назад

      Scholar system 🎉 🤭🤭🤭 I cannot say it too clearly. Waiting for permission....🤣🤣🤣🤣🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️ Bo Bian one lah 🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️

  • @CheecheeKeong-gr8no
    @CheecheeKeong-gr8no 5 месяцев назад

    Not bad, Loan Shark and Scam world is recruiting this individuals now 😤💪🏻💪🏻 important to this age of workforce

  • @htahtoo8851
    @htahtoo8851 5 месяцев назад

    It's not important if they don't want to dirty their hands.

  • @anandnair5223
    @anandnair5223 5 месяцев назад +1

    Out of the box? We have a long way to go.

    • @ysngngys7753
      @ysngngys7753 5 месяцев назад

      Out of e box means Ki Siao...

  • @edenassos
    @edenassos 5 месяцев назад +3

    It's useful if they use it, but 99.9% don't and just go into society working for someone else until they retire like puppets. Not many people in Singapore even think about starting their own businesses/startups.

    • @jennylee1802
      @jennylee1802 5 месяцев назад +2

      High rental and overhead costs have dampened the entrepreneurial spirits of Singaporeans. In addition, one can not afford to fail.

  • @SGBOI
    @SGBOI 5 месяцев назад

    Not everyone wants to be a scientist .....

  • @pingpong1089
    @pingpong1089 5 месяцев назад +1

    No use😂😂😂

  • @johanea
    @johanea 5 месяцев назад

    Math and science is based on facts.
    Will be outmost useful as the rest of the world go woke.

  • @LonganLee
    @LonganLee 5 месяцев назад +1

    This "Creativity" teacher does he have any achievements on creativity to qualify as such a teacher? Sorry, i too good as a questioner. Paiseh.

  • @user-kl3hk8uw4u
    @user-kl3hk8uw4u 5 месяцев назад

    All these ranking are no use if we cannot even have Noble Prize winners at all.

  • @mrtienphysics666
    @mrtienphysics666 5 месяцев назад +1

    Why are they so easily scammed when they become adults, and why are there no Nobel prize?

  • @tonykwok9763
    @tonykwok9763 5 месяцев назад

    PHD🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @mariantia926
    @mariantia926 5 месяцев назад

    Importance math if you are able to overturn the right of the 2nd key..😂🤣😅

  • @anziar3038
    @anziar3038 5 месяцев назад +1

    It's so obvious that PAP is the only competent and effective party in s'pore, with the capability to achieve numerous international recognitions for the country. Fantastic!❤❤

  • @MorningRevivalChurch
    @MorningRevivalChurch 5 месяцев назад +1

    Useless