Ancient Mycenaean armour tested by Marines for extended combat
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- A 3500-year-old suit of armour found near the village of Dendra in 1960 has been tested by Hellenic Marines to investigate if it was a ceremonial suit or if it was suitable for battle.
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that armor was ahead of its time. probably not matched again until the selucids and later the sassanids
As a history nut, im surprised ive never seen this armor, its hella cool
There were some odd theories about the armour when it was first unearthed. The pauldrons were initially mistaken for helmets! 😂
@@evanhughes7609 that's silly in hindsight
@@gnollsuwu3861 That's the great thing about science. You realise your mistakes and keep moving forward.
It's Hellas Cool!
It's pretty effing odd, I'm not really a history nut and I kept seeing it over and over. Half of the time if there's anything on Myceneans this armor is shown.
Sizewise Myceneans were as tall as Greeks today, because of their nutrition, so the suit fits well to the Marine.
Furthermore, the armour probably belongs to a lord due to findings in the grave, who would fight on top of a chariot. The Myceneans used close order infantry with spear-shield, and chariots to break through enemy formations. The Hitite kings, sent written complains to the Mycenean Kings for the chariot attacks-raids in Asia Minor.before 1200 BC.
What I find interesting is that this Mycenaean armor set wouldn't work at all for a cavalry warrior on horseback (because of the two-part metal skirt) but works just fine for someone who mounts/dismounts a chariot. It's the type of armor that is at it's most practical in a specific time frame of culture and technology.
Looks like fun research!
This armor looks like it could be in dark souls
I first saw a pic of this armor in John Warry's "Warfare in the Classical World" when I was a kid. Great to finally see it being tested, if only in very the most preliminary way. 🙌
Happy to see this armour in action, after all this years i saw it in Peter Connollys book as teenager.
My only question is why they made the replica armor 5 lbs heavier than the original?
It was 5kg heavier, which is near enough 11 lbs heavier.
the men in our days are taller
The research article explains it by the original missing one handguard, parts of greaves, and after 3500 years of oxidisation
@@galvanic.warlock Thanks!
The original was probably missing parts, also things like straps, bolts, padding. Basically all the little flexible and non metallic bits and pieces that would have degraded over time.
+The loss of mass from corrosion.
They look like Cataphracts but only for infantry. Could be spotted from afar with all that metal.
Just like the Vikings in 1066 when they saw thousands of Anglo Saxons in chain mail shining brightly in the horizon as they approach them with a fast match that caught them by surprise
experimental archeology is good, but will the full video be shown?
Research footage would be combined, edited, and made into the documentary form in the near future, I hope.
What's surprising to me is that people thought this was only ceremonial. To me, at first glance it looks unmistakably effective. Especially the one with the neck guard. I for sure would not f with someone wearing that
And to think that, if the Trojan War was really a real event, the Achaeans, at least the majority, used this type of armor.
The common soldier wouldn’t have worn anything this expensive, but I could see Agamemnon or Achilles wearing it.
Readying for a rematch with the Trojans.
I don't see the guy in armor taking any hits. That might slow him down a little bit.
I want this armor in kenshi
Nice armor
Whats the purpose of standing on a treadmill in a cart? That does not look like an exercise of any kind
It was probably meant to test, in laboratory conditions" the use of the armor in chariot combat. We know the Mycenaeans used charioteers extensively.
shit. so much for my exercise plans.
does it mean Achillies was OP simply because of the armor ? 😋
One of the few vulnerable areas is (checks notes) the Achilles tendon.
It would have been instructive to see how the warrior could withstand attacks rather than sparring with an unarmoured opponent carrying only a shield.
0:06 - WTF???? Simulation of a ride in some terrain??
the up hand thrust/cut is seriously impaired by the shoulder. The armor can be used, but not so well designed.
Its few thousands years old design. Its not that they were stupid, they were mostly just limited by the technology of their time.
I disagree. The pauldrons resemble late-Medieval Northern Italian designs, which were large & bulky.
I suspect it's an excellent design, but we cannot know the technique & manner of combat it was well-designed for - but notice when he keeps his arms low, the pauldrons offer good protection. And also remember that a large shield was also used. And of course, it may be that it was secured better by means we don't know.
If increased mobility and arm movement is needed, The wearer can go through the simple expedient of removing the shoulder guards, which are attached via leather thonging. The neck plate and the 'Faulds' can also be removed.
The Illiad, besides being the only literary source (Itself based on an even older oral traditional story) that describes Boar-tusk helmets, also mentions how some of the heroes fought in lighter configurations of bronze armour likely in the 'Dendra' style without the shoulder guards or neck piece.
Cool
dangerous experiment
you cry from Papercut. Hushup
Well I must ask which Marines obviously the US Marines have learnt their lessons from all sorts of failed piece of shit Exoskeletons sold to them as promising iron man armors 😂
Greek marines.
@@4seasonspk LoL didn't know they existed
@@FLORIDIANMILLIONAIRE LoL. You should know that only the Greek Marines exist after a battle! LoL
@@user-wg2de2wr2d are these the same Marines that failed to rescue Archimedes of Syracuse the most brilliant scientist of the antiquity
OK. You didn't know they existed. OK. You only know US Marines. Let's see: "From the halls of Montezuma to the Shores of Tripoli...." hymn of US Marines. 1st Barbary War (Coast of Tripoli-Libya Battle of Derna 1805 - creation of US Marines), who faught alongside US troops? Greeks especially from Crete, then under Turkish oppression. Please you don't know ancient history, at least learn the history of the last 200 years.