Great work! The idea of mimicking other battery technologies via the control system is genius and will undoubtedly make the battery attractive in new markets. I foresee great demand for the Redflow Gen3 batteries.
Ditto. I want two of these in my house. What will be the new price point and when will production ramp up so it is possible to buy these in New Zealand.
Hi at Redflow. Great new innovation. Can you come up with some sort of a comparison chart, highlighting Redflow advantages over others? What about cost comparisons with other batteries, like Sonnen, Tesla, LG etc., in terms of $/Kwh and in real terms? What physical requirements does a Redflow battery require, such as area, volume dimensions insulation, enclosures and ventilation? Look forward to some information on this, before I make a decision to purchase. Do you sell, or have agencies Australia wide?
Well done Redflow! From following along Robert Murray Smiths channel i have learnt it is monumental task bringing a new battery company online! There is a huge amount of info online and I am keen to learn more so any content or direction to any latest content would be greatly appreciated! Subscribed!
Great ! I can't wait to get one of these in my house, i even have send you email with the question about ZBM2 price till France (that is where i live). But it's looks like nobody from RedFlow bother to reply on my email, why is that ?
Hi George. Sorry no one has responded to you. If you want to drop an email to support@redflow.com with your best contact details, we'll get one of our sales team to reach out to you.
Fantastic progress. Does the new architecture allow for use in mobile applications? I’m looking at an inland waterways widebeam barge, with twin 10kw peak motors. The roof will accommodate about 7-9 Kw peak of solar, and I intend to install a small scale wind turbine for use when moored and a hookup is not available. At the moment the motor system comes with a 96KWh Lead acid traction battery at 48v DC, of which, only a max of 50% is usable. It would be fitted as part of the boats ballast so weight is not an issue. My question is really, would 5 of the gen 3 RedFlow ZBM2s be able to replace the Lead Acid battery?
As a side note, I always intended to buffer the battery bank with an industrial Ultracapacitor module, from Maxwell industries, just to shield it from the hefty startup current, so they would be protected against exceeding the discharge limit.
Hi Carl. The battery isn't designed for mobile applications, and movement can affect the zinc plating process. If you'd like a more detailed assessment, please email us at support@redflow.com and we'll have one of our sales team have a closer look.
Redflow - sustainable energy storage thanks for the reply. I realised the battery is designed for static applications, I wanted to check if the new version would work. The advantages over lead acid are substantial.
@@redflow-acceleratingacarbo9077 Here's a look at the type of vessel I'm interested in, its just for canals and rivers. ruclips.net/video/r3xeaySYSaA/видео.html
@@MrCarlRobinson Nice boat!. Apparently Redflow are more expensive than Lithium batteries (I'm not sure if G3 changes this). Given redflow are also not suitable for mobile installations I suggest you look into a lithium solution instead if you are looking for more power or perhaps AGM Leadacid will do.
I like what it is your company is doing and hope to be able to work with you guys in the future as I bring out yet another green energy solution that will work well with yours.
How will you keep this battery stay under 50deg considering its installed in a metal cabinet with other batteries and in warm climates where ambient can be 40deg plus it would get very hot in those cabinets.
Seems no one from Redflow is interested in social media.......so i'll answer. Its my understanding that these batteries are supposed to last 10 years with 100% capacity for that 10 years (eg 10kw at the start.....10k at the end)
@@DeanCollinsVideos correct on both points. Warranty is for 10 years or 36500 kWh. Which ever comes first. That is one complete cycle per day for 10 years.
Hi, am keen follower of Redflow, we have been off grid for a few years now and are looking to upgrade in the not to distant future, are your batteries suited to home off grid applications, is it possible I understand they require total discharge cycles, how do you overcome the need to carry on as normal power usage whilst this all happens or is it recommended to have “two batteries” a 10kw battery would suit our needs in future. Thanks in advance.
You need to have a minimum of two batteries to ensure continuous power supply. We have two ZBM2 batteries in our domestic house situation. In the longer days outside of winter, we effectively do not draw from the grid. If we were off grid we would change some things and two batteries would be sufficient, but a third would be icing on the cake. If you can, find someone with one or preferably two of these batteries in a domestic situation to glean the pros and cons. The current batteries effectively allow a continuous discharge of approximately 2750W in really hot weather, having two batteries means you can pull 5500W continuously; provided both batteries have some stored energy that is. One test we did was at 3% SOC (both batteries) we pulled 7000W + - for a very short time; very impressive. I would suggest you have an inverter for each battery, otherwise you will have a bottleneck. Meaning you may have 18000W of stored power, but you are restricted to approximately 2750W with one inverter, or 5500W continuous with two inverters. We have at one time pulled somewhere around 9000W for a very short time; did it very well. We did this just to see; if you know what I mean.
@@allanhugh2044 Thanks so much for this info Allan. I was looking at getting two when we get solar put on our place and hoping to be as off grid as possible. A third battery with the requisite inverters sounds like the way to go.
Hi Ross. Alan is right in his description of the ideal system setup. If you're interested in knowing more, please email us at support@redflow.com and we'll get one of our sales team in touch with you.
Have you approached Australian Submarine Corporation ASC Would submarine boats be stable enough, to utilise these batteries.? Could these batteries, utilise gyroscopic stabilisation.?
Thanks for the info. I am hoping they will make these units available worldwide (I'm in the Philippines) for home solar use. Also am curious as to what the price is for the newer version.
Hi Derek. We expect to make the residential ZCell product available at the same time as the ZBM2 battery, but we won't be trialling in residential installations - it will go straight to commercial sale after going through our internal testing processes.
I can foresee high school chemistry students reading about your technology for decades, and remembering literally nothing except giggling at the name RedFlow.
Great work! The idea of mimicking other battery technologies via the control system is genius and will undoubtedly make the battery attractive in new markets. I foresee great demand for the Redflow Gen3 batteries.
Looks great!
I hope the price point is driven down to make these more widely deployable.
Fantastic product! Bring on the Gen 3 batteries!
Ditto. I want two of these in my house. What will be the new price point and when will production ramp up so it is possible to buy these in New Zealand.
Hi at Redflow. Great new innovation. Can you come up with some sort of a comparison chart, highlighting Redflow advantages over others? What about cost comparisons with other batteries, like Sonnen, Tesla, LG etc., in terms of $/Kwh and in real terms? What physical requirements does a Redflow battery require, such as area, volume dimensions insulation, enclosures and ventilation? Look forward to some information on this, before I make a decision to purchase. Do you sell, or have agencies Australia wide?
Could this battery be plumbed to preheat domestic water and to cool the battery? That would definitely increase efficiency
What is the total cost of ownership, how does it compare with lithium batteries?
Well done Redflow! From following along Robert Murray Smiths channel i have learnt it is monumental task bringing a new battery company online! There is a huge amount of info online and I am keen to learn more so any content or direction to any latest content would be greatly appreciated! Subscribed!
He's awesome, intelligent and funny.
He revisited this idea in recent videos.
I never knew this tech was over a century old.
Great ! I can't wait to get one of these in my house, i even have send you email with the question about ZBM2 price till France (that is where i live).
But it's looks like nobody from RedFlow bother to reply on my email, why is that ?
Hi George. Sorry no one has responded to you. If you want to drop an email to support@redflow.com with your best contact details, we'll get one of our sales team to reach out to you.
It’s been one year George; did they ship you a battery?
This is a great description of your technology but (perhaps I missed it) how do you mitigate shunt current losses?
Fantastic progress. Does the new architecture allow for use in mobile applications? I’m looking at an inland waterways widebeam barge, with twin 10kw peak motors. The roof will accommodate about 7-9 Kw peak of solar, and I intend to install a small scale wind turbine for use when moored and a hookup is not available. At the moment the motor system comes with a 96KWh Lead acid traction battery at 48v DC, of which, only a max of 50% is usable. It would be fitted as part of the boats ballast so weight is not an issue. My question is really, would 5 of the gen 3 RedFlow ZBM2s be able to replace the Lead Acid battery?
As a side note, I always intended to buffer the battery bank with an industrial Ultracapacitor module, from Maxwell industries, just to shield it from the hefty startup current, so they would be protected against exceeding the discharge limit.
Hi Carl. The battery isn't designed for mobile applications, and movement can affect the zinc plating process. If you'd like a more detailed assessment, please email us at support@redflow.com and we'll have one of our sales team have a closer look.
Redflow - sustainable energy storage thanks for the reply. I realised the battery is designed for static applications, I wanted to check if the new version would work. The advantages over lead acid are substantial.
@@redflow-acceleratingacarbo9077 Here's a look at the type of vessel I'm interested in, its just for canals and rivers. ruclips.net/video/r3xeaySYSaA/видео.html
@@MrCarlRobinson Nice boat!. Apparently Redflow are more expensive than Lithium batteries (I'm not sure if G3 changes this). Given redflow are also not suitable for mobile installations I suggest you look into a lithium solution instead if you are looking for more power or perhaps AGM Leadacid will do.
I like what it is your company is doing and hope to be able to work with you guys in the future as I bring out yet another green energy solution that will work well with yours.
Edward what is it that you do? Do you have a YT channel?
How will you keep this battery stay under 50deg considering its installed in a metal cabinet with other batteries and in warm climates where ambient can be 40deg plus it would get very hot in those cabinets.
How long are these expected to run on only regular maintenance? Estimated lifespan?
Seems no one from Redflow is interested in social media.......so i'll answer. Its my understanding that these batteries are supposed to last 10 years with 100% capacity for that 10 years (eg 10kw at the start.....10k at the end)
@@DeanCollinsVideos correct on both points. Warranty is for 10 years or 36500 kWh. Which ever comes first. That is one complete cycle per day for 10 years.
How long is the warranty on the battery ?
Can we buy these batteries in the UK and how much is a battery 30 kW battery
Hi
Yes they are. Please email our sales team on sales@redflow.com or fill out the contact form on the website redflow.com/contact
Hi, am keen follower of Redflow, we have been off grid for a few years now and are looking to upgrade in the not to distant future, are your batteries suited to home off grid applications, is it possible I understand they require total discharge cycles, how do you overcome the need to carry on as normal power usage whilst this all happens or is it recommended to have “two batteries” a 10kw battery would suit our needs in future. Thanks in advance.
You need to have a minimum of two batteries to ensure continuous power supply. We have two ZBM2 batteries in our domestic house situation.
In the longer days outside of winter, we effectively do not draw from the grid. If we were off grid we would change some things and two batteries would be sufficient, but a third would be icing on the cake.
If you can, find someone with one or preferably two of these batteries in a domestic situation to glean the pros and cons.
The current batteries effectively allow a continuous discharge of approximately 2750W in really hot weather, having two batteries means you can pull 5500W continuously; provided both batteries have some stored energy that is.
One test we did was at 3% SOC (both batteries) we pulled 7000W + - for a very short time; very impressive. I would suggest you have an inverter for each battery, otherwise you will have a bottleneck. Meaning you may have 18000W of stored power, but you are restricted to approximately 2750W with one inverter, or 5500W continuous with two inverters.
We have at one time pulled somewhere around 9000W for a very short time; did it very well. We did this just to see; if you know what I mean.
@@allanhugh2044 Thanks so much for this info Allan. I was looking at getting two when we get solar put on our place and hoping to be as off grid as possible. A third battery with the requisite inverters sounds like the way to go.
Hi Ross. Alan is right in his description of the ideal system setup. If you're interested in knowing more, please email us at support@redflow.com and we'll get one of our sales team in touch with you.
Allan Hugh thanks for the heads up very interesting 👍
@@redflow-acceleratingacarbo9077 Cheers, thanks so much. When we're ready to proceed we most definitely will.
Have you approached Australian Submarine Corporation ASC
Would submarine boats be stable enough, to utilise these batteries.?
Could these batteries, utilise gyroscopic stabilisation.?
Hello,
Any chance to get those in europe?
Please tell me it can be used on the solar edge system..
I want one .
What do you mean when you say 10kwh then say "5kwh" I don't understand the "5kwh" ???
10kwh is the storage capacity, and 5 kw is the peak output. i.e. the battery can output 5kw for 2 hours, or 2 kw for 5 hours.
Thanks for the info. I am hoping they will make these units available worldwide (I'm in the Philippines) for home solar use. Also am curious as to what the price is for the newer version.
@@gergle02 Are you with redflow?
@@gergle02 I thought i read that its 5kWh for 1 hour max.....but limited to 3kWh for continuous use?
Fantastic. Thanks.
Do you want people to trial the new battery in a residential house?
Hi Derek. We expect to make the residential ZCell product available at the same time as the ZBM2 battery, but we won't be trialling in residential installations - it will go straight to commercial sale after going through our internal testing processes.
@@redflow-acceleratingacarbo9077 can you do an internal trial at my place? :) I have 6.6KW solar and looking for a non-lithium battery.
I can foresee high school chemistry students reading about your technology for decades, and remembering literally nothing except giggling at the name RedFlow.
I've followed the company for a few years and never thought of that.
@@youtubkeeper That is probably because, unlike me, you are a normal and functioning adult.
I would buy one if the price per kWh would be lower (50-75%) then other solutions for 10-20kWh device.
Thanks
Not much use if you need to re-mortgage to get set-up.
Robert Murray Smith
What is with the packing strips (green straps), why do you "ahh" and "um" so much? Do you not believe in what your saying?
Pretty sure the green packing straps are holding it all together as its still in development.
Don't be a dick Abee