Lar M We don't need a tunnel from France to Quebec. There is a French Ovsrseas Territory Island near Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada called St. Pierre et Miquelon. It is a small island. There are some Canadian imported vehicles with US sized French license plate and also Euro French vehicles from France right here in SPM.
Anglo-Saxon supremacy in America and Canada has no lesson to teach Quebecers! ... We are only 8 million Francophones surrounded by more than 300 million Anglophones so it is normal that we protect our language and our culture. If Canada is not bilingual why Quebec would be? ... Canadian bilingualism is one way! ...
As a Mohawk I can say that there is a great deal of racism and xenophobia in Quebec. Mind you it's not alone, English Canada is just as or more racist and xenophobic.
Most Anglos are racists. Totally right. And they want the whole World to be like them, speak like them and think like them. They've been isolated on their islands from the rest of the world and when they ventured out, they used slaves to build their empires. There are a nasty bunch of arrogant bastards!
The people of Québec will of course, like people everywhere, want to maintain culture, tradition and language. They have a very vibrant and lively culture, which is a good start. I wish them well. I hope they can find a way to preserve everything through judicious compromises rather than procrustean lawmaking. They will go a long way toward their goal of cultural preservation if they also find a way to preserve the good will and friendship of their neighbors.
Whenever a minority group talks about defending their culture they get a lot of support. But when white people talk about preserving their culture; most people and the mainstream media say it's raciest.
I'm bilingual and live in Quebec. I have an accent when I speak French. As soon as people hear it, they insist on speaking English with me. Even when I insist that they speak French, they slip back into English. If the population isn't willing to speak the language, no amount of legislation will help it. If the culture is so weak that it cannot survive, let it die.
You misunderstand the reason why this happens. They feel you're not comfy in french and switch to English to make the interaction more effective. The same thing happens in France, it has nothing to do with what you're saying, it's actually a sign of respect, not the same kind the francophones get when they are in anglophone areas.
I am Half French-Canadian and Native, and have lived most of my life in English Provinces before returning to Quebec. If anyone, the English are xenophobic. You only have to read the comments on any video regarding French-Canadians on this site and you can attest for yourself.
Explain to me why Quebec hasn't signed a constitution that guarantees language rights? How does being a Quebecois make you more important than any other Canadian citizen? It doesn't. To say that is an insult to multiculturalism and the concept of equality.
A few weeks ago they fined a restaurant for having a sign that read, "Fish & Chips" They wanted it changed to "poisson et frites" ... trouble is .... even French people don't call it that ... so they backed down.
Also Quebec you can keep french as your official language, considering the french fought to keep Quebec and preserve their language and please leave Canada otherwise you two will be 2 boring countries you know you need each other. Also quebecers it would be nice if you guess showed that your proud Canadians for a change, is it to much to ask?
Lol yes i did because i have haitian friend, a libanese friend, a mexican friend, a russian friend and a colombian friend. I worked in HR in health industry where there are a lot of cultural minorities. So i have more contacts with people from other countries than you do. They all understand that for beeing a quebecois they have to learn french and respect our values like equality between men and women. Thats simple.
I use French all the time, but what you are too blind to accept is that I will not be forced against my will to abandon my own language for the one that KKKuebec finds acceptable.
I have been to Quebec recently and a lot of recent new arrival in Quebec are from the third world FRENCH SPEAKING countries.English speaking individuals will not migrate to Quebec.They may use Quebec as their province of landing but sooner or later move to other provinces. I cannot see the problem of Quebec losing their dominant language here.I went to check in one of the hotel in Montreal and the receptionist trainee who looks like from some part of French speaking African country cannot understand what I said to her in English.
Francis Litan mais pas au Québec, c'est plutôt les anglos qui sont "Dead" et la même chose aux USA par l'espagnol; par contre le français est celui qui augmente le plus en ce moment grâce à l'Afrique. J'espère juste que tu vives assez longtemps pour le voir l'angryphone...😂😂😂😂
The older generation still speak and write excellent French.I met a few in Vancouver. They don't understand much English but their French is absolutely superb.
I am Franco-Albertan and speak french in Alberta with no problems or hatred whatsoever. French there is growing steadily and in an open and accepting environment. But since moving to Quebec I have been insulted on a regular basis for being an Albertan and speaking french differently than Quebecers.I have to contend with the most unconstitutional regulations in North America to be a student and live here. If you are a second class citizen in the roc, than I am not even considered one here in QC.
fools. You are still ruled by the British empire. Who's face is on those Canadian dollars??? Get true independence first from Queen Elizabeth and then deal with the french vs english issue.
So this is not news, Interculturalism has been around since the 80's. It is actually a more fair and equal system than Multiculturalism in the rest of Canada. Living in Ottawa
The number of Mi'kmaq (Micmac) people who can speak their ancestral language at all is shockingly small. Ironically, most Mi'kmaq are now francophones, and as such are fighting to preserve someone else's culture.
I have a clear view of the linguistic situation in Canada as i am French-Canadian and native and lived for many years out west and most of my education was done in English. Many English people treat French-Canadians across Canada like second class citizens and in Quebec they do not make the effort to speak French with french speaking Quebecker's even if they are bilingual.
Ho yeah thats why Quebec was the first province who welcomed Jews in Canada... Quebec has the biggest haitian, iranian, mexican and french community of all the country. We have not created the reform party instead of others...we are mostly the most bilingual people of the country. So keep your insults for yourself
I had experienced the same when on a school trip to Quebec. They would not speak it to me and it feels awkward to keep speaking my second language in reply to my first. I get the same thing in NB sometimes too. They ask if I speak French in French and when I say I do they switch to English. At my work a woman of Haitian origin, who moved here from France, has the same trouble. Her accent is not Acadien but when they switch to English she understands little as she is learning still.
Bullshit. It's the English people who are more bilingual than the French. Separatists are the best treated minority in the world, but the more generous Canada is with you, the more aggressive and xenophobic you get.
Quebec does reach out, Quebec does provide education to immigrants, Quebec does fund its culture at a higher rate than any province, and I think it is helping. Some believe it is not enough. Your initial comment made me think you derived some enjoyment of knowing Quebec's culture is in decline. If I misunderstood, I apologize, but that's what I understood. Et j'ai marié une anglophone, alors tes préjugés défavorables, garde-les pour toi.
Have you read our constitution? s. 16 (1) "English and French are the official languages of Canada and have equality of status and equal rights and privileges as to their use in all institutions of the Parliament and government of Canada. s. 20 (1) "Any member of the public in Canada has the right to communicate with, and to receive available services from, any head or central office of an institution of the Parliament or government of Canada in English or French."
This is a distraction from the real issues: economical non performance from Quebec and cutting programs and huge deficit. I don't care about the language, I care about who gonna pay my bills. BTW I am a resident from the La Belle Province!!
Here the thing Quebec if you want to keep the french language. The best thing you can do is to let French flow naturally, a language has to flow naturally it can't be forced. French will always come first in Quebec same as english comes first in USA, which is ok since you french fought to keep Quebec. But you have got to stop making fun of french speakers outside of quebec and embrace them instead. Also stop forcing french on the anglos, they have to want to to learn that language.
No. You should encourage the growth of your culture by providing education and funding to spread and share your culture with others. That would be a far better thing than becoming xenophobic and punishing other cultural groups with language fines. If Quebec would reach out instead of lash out then there would be more willingness among other Canadians to embrace and help preserve the French language. Et oui, je parle Francais, mais tu ne m'accepterai jamais.
Lol. Tell how we are racist? BTW, Québec is by far the province who adopt the most overseas children. Anglo have all they want and need in english, Hospital, school, etc.
After 40 yrs - - LET QUEBEC LEAVE - WE IN CANADA - want ENGLISH ONLY in all other provinces if QUE BEC GOES FRENCH ONLY we have that right as equals French only in Quebec then ENGLISH Only in all other provinces ENGLISH LANGUAGE PROTECTION IN ALL OTHER PROVINCES
Also Quebec stop forcing the Anglos to speak french. They have to want to learn the language. Although i have to ask why they choose to remain in Quebec when there are plenty of english speaking canadian provinces that i am sure are much better to live in and is it worth staying in Quebec anyway? Anyway beck to Quebec respect the anglos language same as they'll respect yours. Also to the english speaking quebecers remember french will always come first in Quebec that is never going change.
Language is dynamic and ever changing. All that was accomplished by the language laws was the decline of a once great province and the end of multi-lingual Quebec culture. For that I'm sad.
After man years out of province, I returned to Montreal and sought to purchase some cigarettes, I asked for some, in French. The man turned to me and the man said in English "We don't speak French in this store!". I then switched to English, and his response? He replied in French claiming "On parle pas l'angais icitt". /me shakes head
Disclaimer: The views shared by this user are purely his own and do not represent the views of the people of England and the United Kingdom as a whole. We don't all hate the French.
And the lest dumb to...We were not the province who considered installing the islamic law (Charia) into the justice system but Ontario... Totally unbeleivable.
You've swallowed the doublespeak whole. Quebec's demands are not to have special powers, it is to have powers adapted to their own history and cultural identity. Quebec has a different language, culture, legal system, education system, religious history... Trudeau's take on it is that all individuals have the same rights. The PQ's demands at the time were about collective rights.
Not even the streets of Paris tell people to "arrête" on the streets. North American English was also heavily changed by immigrants. What does it matter for French?.
If you don't know your own history, French settlers were present in Quebec and neighboring areas when the British already got here. And the deal was, Canada becomes an equally French and English speaking country, but as we know very few speak french elsewhere. So really,let them keep their language. No point in being stupid about that.
Most immigrants want to become Canadians while maintaining their cultural background. And there's nothing wrong with that - Oh, I forgot. There is in Quebec. How can an immigrant become fluent in French and be aware of Quebec culture when the " quebecois" tend to keep their distances from everyone with the " wrong " accent and don't like to share their " rich" culture with anyone else? And when at the smallest criticism tell people to go move somewhere else?
M. Beaulieu explained it well.. Montreal is where the language problem is and Montreal is so big and important to Quebec, If Mtl becomes an English city, the rest of Quebec will have to make a ton of changes or soon follow. The language conflict really isn't a problem in the regions.
I would like to think it's enough as well. I think the stats on French decline in Montreal are not as bad as the hard-liners make them out to be, but it IS in decline. Quick anecdote: my wife is from NB and started elementary school in french immersion, just like you. When she moved to rural English-speaking NB, she was called names for knowing how to speak French. Now, you can't expect too much from 9 year-olds, but it speaks of how neither side can claim to have a better attitude about this.
We don't think we are more important! Canada is officially a bilingual country, the vast majority of Quebecker's are French speaking, so it is normal that the population want to preserve the language.
Oh! Yes! Bowser and Blue one of the two clowns is married to a French Canadian and he has never learned French, it proves how racist he is. Because he can remember the lyrics of a song and sing whatever tone he wants, but he is not able to learn French.
Just because someone's ancestors lived on a piece of land does not give their decedents the right to that land hundreds of years later. By that logic the West Bank belongs to the Jews and most of coastal Turkey belongs to the Greeks.The French were instrumental to the creation of both the Canadian state and nation, the natives were not.
That's not what I was talking about, but nice try to change the subject. If an Algerian immigrant walks into a store in Calgary and speaks French, he will be asked to speak English and that will be considered normal. A Jamaican immigrant walks into a store in Quebec City and speaks English, he will be asked to speak French and it'll end up on page 2 of the Globe and Mail.
So if you are so smart, lets continue this debate in french we'll all be able to judge your skills in french. You always show yourself as a super talented bilingual person. It's time
I don't see that at all. I even know black people who said they never suffer from racism here, or nothing like their own parents would have. But I'm not you and don't know your experience of course.
No matter where their from, if they are french citizen they had to learn the language. Thats the problem in Quebec, immigrants come here thinking Canada is a billingual country while in fact there is one french province and every other province is english (except new brunswick for now...)
My god that's stupid. If an English speaking immigrant goes to France, where the majority of people speak French, then it is not expected for the French shop keeper to have to speak English to them. You have to conform to the majority language of an area. To deny that is stupid.
Quebec government come down stop being paranoid take breath and listen. Quebec if you want preserve the french language in quebec, remember french has to flow naturally it can't be forced. To the rest of the french speaking quebekers stop making fun of the french speakers outside of Quebec, french is french who cares how it sounds; instead embrace and appreciate them.
Anyway, ca sert à rien d'essayer de convaincre des anglos borné endoctriné. Ta beau être le plus courtois, ca vire toujour à l'insulte racist. Le fameux Québec Bashing.
Quebec is afraid of change Quebec was billingual until the Parti Quebecois came into power and brought in French law. Which no longer makes sense. We are multicultural it’s time to represent Canadas official languages again and make Quebec billingual once again As a French Canadian I’m disgusted
@Patrick It's not Quebec that's afraid of change, it's English Quebecers who have lost the monopoly of superiority, and Quebec has never been bilingual but has always been French ,better get use to it.
I find it a little funny when you mention " our values like equality between men and women" . There should be equality between each and every individual. And yet in Quebec, there's always mention of " member of a cultural community" or " member of a visible minority". Each and every immigrant I've met would rather be called by his or her name. What about YOUR values? I hear a lot about them, but people mention it at will but end up never saying what they actually are.
I think the "threat" is being exaggerated to justify political action. If all were "fine" then what would the PQ talk about? They have a vested interest in keeping the pot stirred. I sometimes took a bit of flack from school kids about immersion as well. It turns out when you question those kids as adults that they are jealous and felt the immersion group was treated better and differently. I'm partial to les Acadiens over Quebecois but would not like either cultural group to disappear.
Thats fine. But it was just a historical reference. Charles De Gaulle was the first to coin that statement when he visited Montreal (as President of France) during the 1967 Expo. He was losing in the France election polls, so he made his great statement, which Quebec Separatists and Nationalists took to be support form him and france for the Separatist cause. Why he really said it was so his poll numbers would go up in France. The statement made him look like a political strongman.
I like the French language. I was brought up in Vancouver where there's little need to use French, but we study it anyway at school. I can't imagine having my own shop somewhere and the government telling me what words I can or can't use in my own place. Tabernac!
Pal, THE French writer is Molière. They say French is "Molière's language" (la langue de Molière). Saying Shakespeare French sounds ridiculous. And can you be more specific. Who are these "Metro Frenchies"? If they did say so, they are a bunch of dummies.
If Quebec take in immigrant from mainly French speaking countries you don't have problems with language and culture but social stratification still remain.
I agree that it is helping and it is enough because the hard approach creates division instead of cultural growth. You did misunderstand. As for my prejudices, I'm happy for your marriage but your experience must be different from my personal experience as I have experienced a great deal of nasty comments and attitudes as an anglophone in NB who tries my very best to speak french. I took it as immersion education from grade one and yet I encounter so much hate and scorn I feel like giving up.
The thing is that this sort of thing seems to only happen in the Montreal area. It doesn't really happen in other parts of Quebec (maybe Gatineau?) Montreal is not a French-speaking city, but it's not an English-speaking city. It's a bilingual city. And the immigrants who prefer to work in English are usualy from countries where English has a history there. Someone from a country that's more tied to the French language (like Algeria for example), will be closer to French.
“Påte” is to me what “pasta” is when mixing before fabrication. Franglais is still getting out of control, but many international loanwords are untranslatable, especially in cuisine.
i speak welsh galic but use english as my main language. as more people talk this world wide, its easyer and most people talk some sort of english nowadays, its just the moden world changing as its done for the past 5000 years
French is only spoken in France. Metis French and Quebecois French are spoken in Canada. Cajun French is spoken in Louisiana. Appalachian English is spoken in the U.S., but is almost exclusively spoken in the UK by professional entertainers respectfully practicing their craft. Ergo, most Quebecois do not speak French.
the thing is if we dont make laws to force french to be spoke by anglophones they never choose to speak french we are always those who speak english to accomodate all of you. proof? how many words have you all guys used on this debate with other quebecers? 0...we are always those who change for you
Je sais et elle est incapable de répondre à nos arguments en français simplement parce qu'elle n'y comprend rien et qu'elle prétend être bilingue. C'est pathétique je te jure
I am truly astonished that the French have so little cleverness... You reproach us - very inappropriately - and tell us that our country is a little hell in contrast with France, which you compare to a terrestrial paradise. If this is true, why did you leave it? Why did you abandon your wives, children, relatives, and friends? ~Micmac Chief (1676) (;
the problem with english-speaking people is that many of them dont consider other lenguages because their lenguage is the most important in the world, ok it is but you have to respect other lenguages, sadly french in north America will disapear because inmigrants go there and for example if they are chinese they obviously will choose the english just because it is more useful, and with french-speaking population declining.... french in north America wont survive
Bullshit. Quebec have the biggest immigration of Germans, Italians, Mexicans, Romanians, Haitians and Frances of Canada. All those people live very happy in the province. English minority if the most well treated community in Quebec compared of how French minority is treated in the ROC where they have to fight all the time to get their rights respected..
You know what Quebec should do to gain more French speakers? Government officials should drop their racist policies and attitudes (in school and everyday life). Being a French speaking Canadian who's lived in Quebec (Montreal) let's just say they are unaccepting of non-quebecois folks. So much so that French speakers migrate to non-French speaking provinces and learn ENGLISH. I love our language but if you wanna make a living elsewhere you gotta speak English and leave French.
You talk rubbish. You don't know anything regarding teaching of foreign languages. English has the most difficult pronunciation to learn and to memorize. The English pronunciation is chaotic and confusing. Why is the pronounced 'a' of Italy different from the pronounced 'a' of Italian? It is totally illogical to pronounce these two words in a different way. For us non-native English-speaking foreigners it is very, very difficult to memorize every English word. That's why we mispronounce the English words very often. Conversely, the French, German, Spanish, Italian pronunciations are very easy, compared to the English one. No doubt about it!
@@TheInternetFan Depends on you my friend. It hurts, but the truth is that those people are minority in North America only 9 millions compared to English Canada and USA. Of course they like to keep their traditions like you, cuz you responded in French.
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Why didn't Quebec build a tunnel linking France and Quebec ? Too bad it has to go through the English Channel !
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We don't need a tunnel from France to Quebec.
There is a French Ovsrseas Territory Island near Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada called St. Pierre et Miquelon. It is a small island.
There are some Canadian imported vehicles with US sized French license plate and also Euro French vehicles from France right here in SPM.
Franxit will be next on the Euro agenda.No more Euro French. Only French French.The Franc will come back.
No independence is what we want.
Stop taking in immigrants and go back to the Church and repopulate like we did before 65.
Anglo-Saxon supremacy in America and Canada has no lesson to teach
Quebecers! ... We are only 8 million Francophones surrounded by more than 300 million Anglophones so it is normal that we protect our language and our culture. If Canada is not bilingual why Quebec would be? ... Canadian bilingualism is one way! ...
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As a Mohawk I can say that there is a great deal of racism and xenophobia in Quebec. Mind you it's not alone, English Canada is just as or more racist and xenophobic.
Most Anglos are racists. Totally right. And they want the whole World to be like them, speak like them and think like them. They've been isolated on their islands from the rest of the world and when they ventured out, they used slaves to build their empires. There are a nasty bunch of arrogant bastards!
The people of Québec will of course, like people everywhere, want to maintain culture, tradition and language. They have a very vibrant and lively culture, which is a good start. I wish them well. I hope they can find a way to preserve everything through judicious compromises rather than procrustean lawmaking. They will go a long way toward their goal of cultural preservation if they also find a way to preserve the good will and friendship of their neighbors.
Whenever a minority group talks about defending their culture they get a lot of support. But when white people talk about preserving their culture; most people and the mainstream media say it's raciest.
I'm bilingual and live in Quebec. I have an accent when I speak French. As soon as people hear it, they insist on speaking English with me. Even when I insist that they speak French, they slip back into English. If the population isn't willing to speak the language, no amount of legislation will help it. If the culture is so weak that it cannot survive, let it die.
You misunderstand the reason why this happens. They feel you're not comfy in french and switch to English to make the interaction more effective. The same thing happens in France, it has nothing to do with what you're saying, it's actually a sign of respect, not the same kind the francophones get when they are in anglophone areas.
Most anglophones Will struggle while you put your words together the francophones will just speak to you in English
I am Half French-Canadian and Native, and have lived most of my life in English Provinces before returning to Quebec. If anyone, the English are xenophobic. You only have to read the comments on any video regarding French-Canadians on this site and you can attest for yourself.
Explain to me why Quebec hasn't signed a constitution that guarantees language rights? How does being a Quebecois make you more important than any other Canadian citizen? It doesn't. To say that is an insult to multiculturalism and the concept of equality.
A few weeks ago they fined a restaurant for having a sign that read, "Fish & Chips"
They wanted it changed to "poisson et frites" ... trouble is .... even French people don't call it that ... so they backed down.
Also Quebec you can keep french as your official language, considering the french fought to keep Quebec and preserve their language and please leave Canada otherwise you two will be 2 boring countries you know you need each other. Also quebecers it would be nice if you guess showed that your proud Canadians for a change, is it to much to ask?
Lol yes i did because i have haitian friend, a libanese friend, a mexican friend, a russian friend and a colombian friend. I worked in HR in health industry where there are a lot of cultural minorities. So i have more contacts with people from other countries than you do. They all understand that for beeing a quebecois they have to learn french and respect our values like equality between men and women. Thats simple.
I use French all the time, but what you are too blind to accept is that I will not be forced against my will to abandon my own language for the one that KKKuebec finds acceptable.
I understand being proud of one's heritage and culture, but this is just stupid...
I have been to Quebec recently and a lot of recent new arrival in Quebec are from the third world FRENCH SPEAKING countries.English speaking individuals will not migrate to Quebec.They may use Quebec as their province of landing but sooner or later move to other provinces. I cannot see the problem of Quebec losing their dominant language here.I went to check in one of the hotel in Montreal and the receptionist trainee who looks like from some part of French speaking African country cannot understand what I said to her in English.
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French is dead in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos.
Francis Litan mais pas au Québec, c'est plutôt les anglos qui sont "Dead" et la même chose aux USA par l'espagnol; par contre le français est celui qui augmente le plus en ce moment grâce à l'Afrique. J'espère juste que tu vives assez longtemps pour le voir l'angryphone...😂😂😂😂
The older generation still speak and write excellent French.I met a few in Vancouver. They don't understand much English but their French is absolutely superb.
Noblie pas l' Indochine. Les Chinos la ne parle pas Anglais. Ils parlent Vietmin et francais.
I am Franco-Albertan and speak french in Alberta with no problems or hatred whatsoever. French there is growing steadily and in an open and accepting environment. But since moving to Quebec I have been insulted on a regular basis for being an Albertan and speaking french differently than Quebecers.I have to contend with the most unconstitutional regulations in North America to be a student and live here. If you are a second class citizen in the roc, than I am not even considered one here in QC.
fools. You are still ruled by the British empire. Who's face is on those Canadian dollars??? Get true independence first from Queen Elizabeth and then deal with the french vs english issue.
@Bernardo B The British Empire the biggest empire the world has ever seen.
So this is not news, Interculturalism has been around since the 80's. It is actually a more fair and equal system than Multiculturalism in the rest of Canada. Living in Ottawa
If you have to legislate your culture you can be certain it is in decline.
The number of Mi'kmaq (Micmac) people who can speak their ancestral language at all is shockingly small. Ironically, most Mi'kmaq are now francophones, and as such are fighting to preserve someone else's culture.
I have a clear view of the linguistic situation in Canada as i am French-Canadian and native and lived for many years out west and most of my education was done in English. Many English people treat French-Canadians across Canada like second class citizens and in Quebec they do not make the effort to speak French with french speaking Quebecker's even if they are bilingual.
Ho yeah thats why Quebec was the first province who welcomed Jews in Canada... Quebec has the biggest haitian, iranian, mexican and french community of all the country. We have not created the reform party instead of others...we are mostly the most bilingual people of the country. So keep your insults for yourself
I had experienced the same when on a school trip to Quebec. They would not speak it to me and it feels awkward to keep speaking my second language in reply to my first. I get the same thing in NB sometimes too. They ask if I speak French in French and when I say I do they switch to English. At my work a woman of Haitian origin, who moved here from France, has the same trouble. Her accent is not Acadien but when they switch to English she understands little as she is learning still.
Bullshit. It's the English people who are more bilingual than the French. Separatists are the best treated minority in the world, but the more generous Canada is with you, the more aggressive and xenophobic you get.
Quebec does reach out, Quebec does provide education to immigrants, Quebec does fund its culture at a higher rate than any province, and I think it is helping. Some believe it is not enough.
Your initial comment made me think you derived some enjoyment of knowing Quebec's culture is in decline. If I misunderstood, I apologize, but that's what I understood.
Et j'ai marié une anglophone, alors tes préjugés défavorables, garde-les pour toi.
Have you read our constitution? s. 16 (1) "English and French are the official languages of Canada and have equality of status and equal rights and privileges as to their use in all institutions of the Parliament and government of Canada. s. 20 (1) "Any member of the public in Canada has the right to communicate with, and to receive available services from, any head or central office of an institution of the Parliament or government of Canada in English or French."
This is a distraction from the real issues: economical non performance from Quebec and cutting programs and huge deficit. I don't care about the language, I care about who gonna pay my bills. BTW I am a resident from the La Belle Province!!
Je suis pas Français , je suis québécois! // I'm not French, I am Quebécer!
Here the thing Quebec if you want to keep the french language. The best thing you can do is to let French flow naturally, a language has to flow naturally it can't be forced. French will always come first in Quebec same as english comes first in USA, which is ok since you french fought to keep Quebec. But you have got to stop making fun of french speakers outside of quebec and embrace them instead. Also stop forcing french on the anglos, they have to want to to learn that language.
No. You should encourage the growth of your culture by providing education and funding to spread and share your culture with others. That would be a far better thing than becoming xenophobic and punishing other cultural groups with language fines. If Quebec would reach out instead of lash out then there would be more willingness among other Canadians to embrace and help preserve the French language. Et oui, je parle Francais, mais tu ne m'accepterai jamais.
Lol. Tell how we are racist? BTW, Québec is by far the province who adopt the most overseas children. Anglo have all they want and need in english, Hospital, school, etc.
After 40 yrs - - LET QUEBEC LEAVE - WE IN CANADA - want ENGLISH ONLY in all other provinces if QUE BEC GOES FRENCH ONLY we have that right as equals French only in Quebec then ENGLISH Only in all other provinces ENGLISH LANGUAGE PROTECTION IN ALL OTHER PROVINCES
All provinces have had their official legal language for over 100 years, so why would it be any different for Quebec?
'cose we're French huh?
Also Quebec stop forcing the Anglos to speak french. They have to want to learn the language. Although i have to ask why they choose to remain in Quebec when there are plenty of english speaking canadian provinces that i am sure are much better to live in and is it worth staying in Quebec anyway? Anyway beck to Quebec respect the anglos language same as they'll respect yours. Also to the english speaking quebecers remember french will always come first in Quebec that is never going change.
Language is dynamic and ever changing. All that was accomplished by the language laws was the decline of a once great province and the end of multi-lingual Quebec culture. For that I'm sad.
After man years out of province, I returned to Montreal and sought to purchase some cigarettes, I asked for some, in French. The man turned to me and the man said in English "We don't speak French in this store!". I then switched to English, and his response? He replied in French claiming "On parle pas l'angais icitt".
/me shakes head
Dumb example !? ... French is the official language in Quebec!
@Brian Gil You make projection francophobic! ...
Canada was founded by JOHN MCDONALD a racist like you.
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We don't all hate the French.
And the lest dumb to...We were not the province who considered installing the islamic law (Charia) into the justice system but Ontario... Totally unbeleivable.
You've swallowed the doublespeak whole. Quebec's demands are not to have special powers, it is to have powers adapted to their own history and cultural identity. Quebec has a different language, culture, legal system, education system, religious history... Trudeau's take on it is that all individuals have the same rights. The PQ's demands at the time were about collective rights.
Not even the streets of Paris tell people to "arrête" on the streets. North American English was also heavily changed by immigrants. What does it matter for French?.
Ya, but they shouldn't be forced by legislation.
I'm sorry the truth enrages you.
If you don't know your own history, French settlers were present in Quebec and neighboring areas when the British already got here. And the deal was, Canada becomes an equally French and English speaking country, but as we know very few speak french elsewhere. So really,let them keep their language. No point in being stupid about that.
Most immigrants want to become Canadians while maintaining their cultural background.
And there's nothing wrong with that - Oh, I forgot. There is in Quebec.
How can an immigrant become fluent in French and be aware of Quebec culture when the " quebecois" tend to keep their distances from everyone with the " wrong " accent and don't like to share their " rich" culture with anyone else?
And when at the smallest criticism tell people to go move somewhere else?
We don’t want foreigners
Didn't know it was a competition.
M. Beaulieu explained it well.. Montreal is where the language problem is and Montreal is so big and important to Quebec, If Mtl becomes an English city, the rest of Quebec will have to make a ton of changes or soon follow. The language conflict really isn't a problem in the regions.
I would like to think it's enough as well. I think the stats on French decline in Montreal are not as bad as the hard-liners make them out to be, but it IS in decline.
Quick anecdote: my wife is from NB and started elementary school in french immersion, just like you. When she moved to rural English-speaking NB, she was called names for knowing how to speak French. Now, you can't expect too much from 9 year-olds, but it speaks of how neither side can claim to have a better attitude about this.
We don't think we are more important! Canada is officially a bilingual country, the vast majority of Quebecker's are French speaking, so it is normal that the population want to preserve the language.
Oh! Yes! Bowser and Blue one of the two clowns is married to a French Canadian and he has never learned French, it proves how racist he is.
Because he can remember the lyrics of a song and sing whatever tone he wants, but he is not able to learn French.
Just because someone's ancestors lived on a piece of land does not give their decedents the right to that land hundreds of years later. By that logic the West Bank belongs to the Jews and most of coastal Turkey belongs to the Greeks.The French were instrumental to the creation of both the Canadian state and nation, the natives were not.
It's a good thing the authorities in Quebec aren't pushing to ban crumbled bacon on poutine. Imagine the outrage on Al Jazeera if THAT ever happens!
That's not what I was talking about, but nice try to change the subject.
If an Algerian immigrant walks into a store in Calgary and speaks French, he will be asked to speak English and that will be considered normal. A Jamaican immigrant walks into a store in Quebec City and speaks English, he will be asked to speak French and it'll end up on page 2 of the Globe and Mail.
england won you
England didn't won remember the Battle of Sainte foy in 1760. France have chosen to leave Canada and Quebec to the English
But they won the battle of Abraham fields and destroyed the French navy in Canada
@@frankderivae4097 yeah sure
@@blob22201 Yes they won a war but they failed the rest
So if you are so smart, lets continue this debate in french we'll all be able to judge your skills in french. You always show yourself as a super talented bilingual person. It's time
I don't see that at all. I even know black people who said they never suffer from racism here, or nothing like their own parents would have. But I'm not you and don't know your experience of course.
You mean the Constitution Quebec never signed? That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about what happens in reality.
No matter where their from, if they are french citizen they had to learn the language. Thats the problem in Quebec, immigrants come here thinking Canada is a billingual country while in fact there is one french province and every other province is english (except new brunswick for now...)
So the English should pack up, quit Canada & return to England handing the keys to the Aboriginals as they leave?
As you say, there will be stupid people wherever you go. But i'm jsut tired of this Québec Bashing.
My god that's stupid. If an English speaking immigrant goes to France, where the majority of people speak French, then it is not expected for the French shop keeper to have to speak English to them. You have to conform to the majority language of an area. To deny that is stupid.
Canada should get away from the British monarchy. Maybe that's why Quebec people go towards France. All Canadians should have a Canadian identity.
how come the French are such whiners? They had their chance to go
Quebec government come down stop being paranoid take breath and listen. Quebec if you want preserve the french language in quebec, remember french has to flow naturally it can't be forced. To the rest of the french speaking quebekers stop making fun of the french speakers outside of Quebec, french is french who cares how it sounds; instead embrace and appreciate them.
Anyway, ca sert à rien d'essayer de convaincre des anglos borné endoctriné. Ta beau être le plus courtois, ca vire toujour à l'insulte racist. Le fameux Québec Bashing.
Avant de commenter en ligne, apprends a écrire en Français.
@@litestuf Au lieu de faire ton pédant apporte des arguments!
The French were here before Canada was a Country!
Well said!
Quebec is afraid of change
Quebec was billingual until the Parti Quebecois came into power and brought in French law.
Which no longer makes sense. We are multicultural it’s time to represent Canadas official languages again and make Quebec billingual once again
As a French Canadian I’m disgusted
@Patrick It's not Quebec that's afraid of change, it's English Quebecers who have lost the monopoly of superiority, and Quebec has never been bilingual but has always been French ,better get use to it.
I find it a little funny when you mention " our values like equality between men and women" .
There should be equality between each and every individual. And yet in Quebec, there's always mention of " member of a cultural community" or " member of a visible minority". Each and every immigrant I've met would rather be called by his or her name.
What about YOUR values? I hear a lot about them, but people mention it at will but end up never saying what they actually are.
I think the "threat" is being exaggerated to justify political action. If all were "fine" then what would the PQ talk about? They have a vested interest in keeping the pot stirred. I sometimes took a bit of flack from school kids about immersion as well. It turns out when you question those kids as adults that they are jealous and felt the immersion group was treated better and differently. I'm partial to les Acadiens over Quebecois but would not like either cultural group to disappear.
Thats fine. But it was just a historical reference. Charles De Gaulle was the first to coin that statement when he visited Montreal (as President of France) during the 1967 Expo. He was losing in the France election polls, so he made his great statement, which Quebec Separatists and Nationalists took to be support form him and france for the Separatist cause. Why he really said it was so his poll numbers would go up in France. The statement made him look like a political strongman.
Not for long, Scotland'll probably vote to leave in about 18 months.
I like the French language. I was brought up in Vancouver where there's little need to use French, but we study it anyway at school. I can't imagine having my own shop somewhere and the government telling me what words I can or can't use in my own place. Tabernac!
At Rome do as Romans do ,period!
Pal, THE French writer is Molière. They say French is "Molière's language" (la langue de Molière). Saying Shakespeare French sounds ridiculous. And can you be more specific. Who are these "Metro Frenchies"? If they did say so, they are a bunch of dummies.
If Quebec take in immigrant from mainly French speaking countries you don't have problems with language and culture but social stratification still remain.
Lar M 😂😂
Merci ! Merci ! Mon ami !
Et J'aime beaucoup la cuisine francaise !
I agree that it is helping and it is enough because the hard approach creates division instead of cultural growth. You did misunderstand. As for my prejudices, I'm happy for your marriage but your experience must be different from my personal experience as I have experienced a great deal of nasty comments and attitudes as an anglophone in NB who tries my very best to speak french. I took it as immersion education from grade one and yet I encounter so much hate and scorn I feel like giving up.
The thing is that this sort of thing seems to only happen in the Montreal area. It doesn't really happen in other parts of Quebec (maybe Gatineau?) Montreal is not a French-speaking city, but it's not an English-speaking city. It's a bilingual city. And the immigrants who prefer to work in English are usualy from countries where English has a history there. Someone from a country that's more tied to the French language (like Algeria for example), will be closer to French.
“Påte” is to me what “pasta” is when mixing before fabrication. Franglais is still getting out of control, but many international loanwords are untranslatable, especially in cuisine.
Kind of like the Christians that forced the Natives to follow their interpritation of Christianity.Life is difficult, isn't it.(;
It is not, in fact I do believe that we are not better or worst, just different but certainly not racist and xenophobic.
At least France have their country, unlike Scots....
A french speaking province, in bilingual country.
theres only one bilingual province and its New-Brunswick
And I mean the Fench language nazis, not the French speakers in general.
"Just beside"? You think "a lot of people" would make the 105 minute commute to Ottawa? You don't know what you're talking about.
i speak welsh galic but use english as my main language. as more people talk this world wide, its easyer and most people talk some sort of english nowadays, its just the moden world changing as its done for the past 5000 years
French is only spoken in France. Metis French and Quebecois French are spoken in Canada. Cajun French is spoken in Louisiana. Appalachian English is spoken in the U.S., but is almost exclusively spoken in the UK by professional entertainers respectfully practicing their craft. Ergo, most Quebecois do not speak French.
Someone doesn't understand the difference between languages and dialects.
the thing is if we dont make laws to force french to be spoke by anglophones they never choose to speak french we are always those who speak english to accomodate all of you. proof? how many words have you all guys used on this debate with other quebecers? 0...we are always those who change for you
I understand why you don't want to accept the truth.
Je sais et elle est incapable de répondre à nos arguments en français simplement parce qu'elle n'y comprend rien et qu'elle prétend être bilingue. C'est pathétique je te jure
I am truly astonished that the French have so little cleverness...
You reproach us - very inappropriately - and tell us that our country is a little hell in contrast with France, which you compare to a terrestrial paradise. If this is true, why did you leave it? Why did you abandon your wives, children, relatives, and friends?
~Micmac Chief (1676)
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the problem with english-speaking people is that many of them dont consider other lenguages because their lenguage is the most important in the world, ok it is but you have to respect other lenguages, sadly french in north America will disapear because inmigrants go there and for example if they are chinese they obviously will choose the english just because it is more useful, and with french-speaking population declining.... french in north America wont survive
What are you talking about? I was born here. My parents were born here and their parents were born and so on... Who do you think built this country?
They are one of the countries that is part of the UK
People everywhere, it's not pronounced KWEBEK, it's pronounced KEBEK. The U is silent. Thanks.
Well said.
Bullshit. Quebec have the biggest immigration of Germans, Italians, Mexicans, Romanians, Haitians and Frances of Canada. All those people live very happy in the province. English minority if the most well treated community in Quebec compared of how French minority is treated in the ROC where they have to fight all the time to get their rights respected..
English isn't Latin. Canada est Francais et Anglais. Not French alone.
Vive le Québec libre et en français!!!
Hallucinating will not help your case, I'm afraid.
I hope they do, just like the Catalans. Every nations should be able to decide their path.
You know what Quebec should do to gain more French speakers? Government officials should drop their racist policies and attitudes (in school and everyday life). Being a French speaking Canadian who's lived in Quebec (Montreal) let's just say they are unaccepting of non-quebecois folks. So much so that French speakers migrate to non-French speaking provinces and learn ENGLISH. I love our language but if you wanna make a living elsewhere you gotta speak English and leave French.
English is easier than French
Ya' speak french by any chance?I seriously doubt you do!!!...
You talk rubbish. You don't know anything regarding teaching of foreign languages. English has the most difficult pronunciation to learn and to memorize. The English pronunciation is chaotic and confusing. Why is the pronounced 'a' of Italy different from the pronounced 'a' of Italian? It is totally illogical to pronounce these two words in a different way. For us non-native English-speaking foreigners it is very, very difficult to memorize every English word. That's why we mispronounce the English words very often. Conversely, the French, German, Spanish, Italian pronunciations are very easy, compared to the English one. No doubt about it!
Jamie Goldman free Palestine 🇵🇸.
ça depends, mon ami
@@TheInternetFan Depends on you my friend. It hurts, but the truth is that those people are minority in North America only 9 millions compared to English Canada and USA. Of course they like to keep their traditions like you, cuz you responded in French.
your English is GREAT!!