The reason we were a 10 is because Draymond Green and Kerr. We played extremely small all season long DnP MM who by the numbers was our best defender instead you played BP who was our 2nd to last in defender
This guys are crazy they are looking for a 20 point player, didn't they know that kuminga as a starter was scoring over 20 per game. Didn't they know that per 36 minutes, Kuminga average 22 points, TJD and Moody 17 points per game each, and that is without kerr making any offensive play or a simple pick for them. Just give the young guys the minutes they deserved and they are going to deliver.
wholeheartedly agree. Klay isnt a 20 point player if he doesn't get 30 minutes a game like he does. But you give guys 15-20 minutes and expect them to shoot 20 points consistently every night. These Youth guys are not getting the minutes that are going to Klay and Wiggins to be inconsistent. These guys are total morons and don't know what the heck they are talking about.
I’d rather we double down on our youth vs trade it all away to get one last championship (which isn’t likely) and be broken for a few years. Double down on moody, podz, JK, and TJD
There is another way. Trade one young player, picks and a vet for one or 2 still young but better players e.g Dejounte, Allen, Claxton., Wendell Carter. Then you can rest Curry and Dray more for most of the season and bring them up to speed for the playoff.
This playoffs prove this a young nba league. The old warriors players without the young guys they would not be in the play in, they would be a lottery team. Keep the big 4 young guys, get rid of some of the old guys. You know who are them.
I go back to the 22-23 season and Kerr giving all those minutes to Ty Jerome and Anthony Lamb. That alone should have made this season to be Kerr’s last season with Warriors.
We don't know who JK is because Kerr won't play him, he doesn't fit in an offense that Kerr has already said we rely on Steph too much. Kerr admits we need to change our offense because of that
This sounds like we're trying to assemble the 2004 Lakers with Gary Payton Karl Malone trying to get Kobe a couple more chips without Shaq. LOL how did that work out again?😢😂
Adding KD is not beating the Celtics, Nuggets or the Wolves. If the Warriors are not willing to overhaul the whole roster then they are not serious about winning. If they are satisfied with just competing in the conference finals that’s not good enough so don’t waste the fans time.
What other team is getting older players to win a chip? Additionally, if you get said "older player", is he a #1 or # 2 option to take over games? The Warriors #2 option is already on the team and his name is Jonathan Kuminga. If you let Moody go, I promise they will regret it later. ALL HE DOES IS PRODUCE POSITIVE RESULTS. Every time he gets on the court. Your adversaries are younger, longer, faster and more athletic and your're talking about bringing in more 30 year olds? I agree you should move on from Wiggins and see what you can get for him. But, get younger or at least bigger in the front court. The only old timers on the team next year should be Steph, Draymond and (maybe) GP2. That small ball s**t ain't working anymore.
JK is exactly what we need the Aaron Gordon type, but could dribble penetrate. TJD could clearly pass the ball, defend, roll threat etc. Podz could play make, defend, shoot and bail us IN HIS ROOKIE SEASON!!!! Moody could defend, shoot, hustle, rebound. Why are we looking else where?!! We got em here!!! These players have not yet peaked like our vets did. And if we develop them theyre looking like the well balanced team like denver, minnesota which has elite skill and athleticism. The small ball is a thing of the past, it only worked coz back then bigs were slow, unskilled etc. Today these 6'11-7 footers are way faster, longer, more skilled and athletic than what our small ball could offer. And we should def get rid of Dray his toxicity and arrogance cost us more rings than he helped us get. The coaching staff depending too much to him only shows us that theyre not doing theyre job adequately. Minnesota doesnt have a high iq defender like dray but theyre the number 1 defense regardless. It coz they hustle, they have length and discipline and also has great coaching
The Warriors are both too old and too young. They don’t have enough players in their prime. This was the mistake of their draft strategy starting with Wiseman. They went for unproven long term development rather than players who were in their prime. I would have traded the 3 picks (including JK and Moses) for prime time players. I would let CP and Klay leave or trade them for players in their prime. I would trade Draymond for a player in his prime. I would indeed trade JK for a good player in his prime.
Now tell me why you would trust kerr with another lottery pick? I understand not playing Wiseman. But Moody and JK were basically benched for Anthony Lamb and ty Jerome in a season where the warriors got a 2nd round out. Wasted development for 2 kids who could play. Then this season he kept them behind klay and Wiggins who were objectively terrible for at least 50+ games of the season.
We need to get younger . I honestly would consider trading steph and dray. Steph can’t guard any of these young/dynamic guards and that affects us tremendously . Don’t think we can get our defense right with him playing extended minutes
And what would be your goal ? Championship ? It took the Wolves, and Thunders for ever to get where they are now and they might flame out next year depending on salary cap, trades etc. (e.g Denver) Warriors stays legit for 10 years with Curry, Dray, Klay. Before that they were in the wilderness for 50 years. And you think you could just get rid of Curry like that and win anything soon ? Ask the Bulls
@@myyololand just start the rebuild now. Curry isn’t taking you anywhere at this age . He can’t defend 97 percent of the point guards in the league . Unless you want to have the highest payroll ever to be a 10 seed or less every single year. The twolves or thunder may flame out , but they’ll be in the hunt every single year. The longer we keep steph and dray, the longer it’ll take to upgrade the talent. The warriors barely have any assets as it is . We’re in the wilderness right now with steph, dray, and klay
@@ninerempire3398 You are just living in the moment because of Wolves defense isn't it? Curry would need a double teaming until he retired, that already give the 4 other players to operate. You add solid athletic young players around him like JK, Moody, TJD, Dejounte, Claxton/Allen/Jonathan Isaac and you can go very very far
@@myyololand i’m living in reality. The last 2 seasons haven’t been good and it’s been getting worse . The whole league is getting younger and more athletic while curry gets older and worse at defense/dray gets older and loses athleticism. We won’t get any of the players you mentioned unless they give up JK, moody, podz , or TJD. Most likely you give up JK and that takes away the future and elite athleticism. It’s also getting to the point where you don’t have to double curry. You can put a tall,young, and athletic defender that can stop him l
@@ninerempire3398 Well if you don't pick the CP3 contract you get under the cap. Then you can sign and trade Klay to ORL (if they are willing) You potentially can have Jonathan Isaac/Wendell Carter + a filler (Ingles). You can use Ingles contract + Podz/TJD/Looney/GP2 and 3 first rounds and a bunch of second picks for Dejounte Murray or way less for Caruso. There is Wiggins' contract that could also be used though I will keep him instead of trading him for cheap. You can get Claxton through sign and trade also for 2 first rounds + salaries (Looney, GP3). With good manoeuvres, we could align Curry, Dejounte/Caruso, Wiggins, Moody, JK, and Wendell/Claxton as the first team. Then still get a decent bench with Lester, Podz/TJD (one of them will be traded) Garuba, Dray and 2 or 3 vets on the cheap. And it could even be awesome if Curry renegotiated his contract removing 15-20M and extending for 3 more years. That means you could target a game-changer 6th man on the market. So no, the Warriors are not doomed yet
The reason we were a 10 is because Draymond Green and Kerr. We played extremely small all season long DnP MM who by the numbers was our best defender instead you played BP who was our 2nd to last in defender
This guys are crazy they are looking for a 20 point player, didn't they know that kuminga as a starter was scoring over 20 per game. Didn't they know that per 36 minutes, Kuminga average 22 points, TJD and Moody 17 points per game each, and that is without kerr making any offensive play or a simple pick for them. Just give the young guys the minutes they deserved and they are going to deliver.
Definitely these guys are clowns 🤡. How do we know what type of player we have if they get inconsistent minutes.
wholeheartedly agree. Klay isnt a 20 point player if he doesn't get 30 minutes a game like he does. But you give guys 15-20 minutes and expect them to shoot 20 points consistently every night. These Youth guys are not getting the minutes that are going to Klay and Wiggins to be inconsistent. These guys are total morons and don't know what the heck they are talking about.
I’d rather we double down on our youth vs trade it all away to get one last championship (which isn’t likely) and be broken for a few years. Double down on moody, podz, JK, and TJD
There is another way. Trade one young player, picks and a vet for one or 2 still young but better players e.g Dejounte, Allen, Claxton., Wendell Carter. Then you can rest Curry and Dray more for most of the season and bring them up to speed for the playoff.
This playoffs prove this a young nba league. The old warriors players without the young guys they would not be in the play in, they would be a lottery team. Keep the big 4 young guys, get rid of some of the old guys. You know who are them.
The league is young so why ask a dumb question like … “should we trade all our young players “🤦🏽♂️
I go back to the 22-23 season and Kerr giving all those minutes to Ty Jerome and Anthony Lamb. That alone should have made this season to be Kerr’s last season with Warriors.
100% right
Facts
In one breath JK is a 20pt a night the next breath you say we need a 20pt a night player
We don't know who JK is because Kerr won't play him, he doesn't fit in an offense that Kerr has already said we rely on Steph too much. Kerr admits we need to change our offense because of that
Kuminga played 30 minutes a game for 3 months straight. What are you talking about
And he wasn't scoring over 20 per game in that time?
@ninerempire3398 exactly he was our #2 scoring 20+ a game sometimes the only player in a quarter going to the free throw line.
This sounds like we're trying to assemble the 2004 Lakers with Gary Payton Karl Malone trying to get Kobe a couple more chips without Shaq. LOL how did that work out again?😢😂
Adding KD is not beating the Celtics, Nuggets or the Wolves. If the Warriors are not willing to overhaul the whole roster then they are not serious about winning. If they are satisfied with just competing in the conference finals that’s not good enough so don’t waste the fans time.
Then you should start with trading curry and green. Curry gets hunted on defense badly and draymond is lacking offensively
What other team is getting older players to win a chip? Additionally, if you get said "older player", is he a #1 or # 2 option to take over games? The Warriors #2 option is already on the team and his name is Jonathan Kuminga. If you let Moody go, I promise they will regret it later. ALL HE DOES IS PRODUCE POSITIVE RESULTS. Every time he gets on the court. Your adversaries are younger, longer, faster and more athletic and your're talking about bringing in more 30 year olds? I agree you should move on from Wiggins and see what you can get for him. But, get younger or at least bigger in the front court. The only old timers on the team next year should be Steph, Draymond and (maybe) GP2. That small ball s**t ain't working anymore.
Zach lavine for Wiggins podz
JK is exactly what we need the Aaron Gordon type, but could dribble penetrate. TJD could clearly pass the ball, defend, roll threat etc. Podz could play make, defend, shoot and bail us IN HIS ROOKIE SEASON!!!! Moody could defend, shoot, hustle, rebound. Why are we looking else where?!! We got em here!!! These players have not yet peaked like our vets did. And if we develop them theyre looking like the well balanced team like denver, minnesota which has elite skill and athleticism. The small ball is a thing of the past, it only worked coz back then bigs were slow, unskilled etc. Today these 6'11-7 footers are way faster, longer, more skilled and athletic than what our small ball could offer. And we should def get rid of Dray his toxicity and arrogance cost us more rings than he helped us get. The coaching staff depending too much to him only shows us that theyre not doing theyre job adequately. Minnesota doesnt have a high iq defender like dray but theyre the number 1 defense regardless. It coz they hustle, they have length and discipline and also has great coaching
This roster must change. If not, you will get the same result.
You can’t win with a two… In todays NBA, you have to have 3 high performers, 2 role players and 2-3 situational or bench rotational guys.
Warriors have to get younger, not older and bigger.
The Warriors are both too old and too young. They don’t have enough players in their prime. This was the mistake of their draft strategy starting with Wiseman. They went for unproven long term development rather than players who were in their prime. I would have traded the 3 picks (including JK and Moses) for prime time players.
I would let CP and Klay leave or trade them for players in their prime. I would trade Draymond for a player in his prime. I would indeed trade JK for a good player in his prime.
NO!
Yes trade it all. Kuminga isnt going to be the next steph curry. You cash it all in to be the best.
Trade Podz/TJD & pick for murray
Let the old 3 fade away.
Warriors tanking next season. 2025 first round pick hoping it become Top 1 protected. 2025 draft is a stacked one
Getting number 1 picks is rarely recipe for success ask, Detroit, Wolves (thoughthey seem to get it right this year after xxx years of top 5 picks)
Now tell me why you would trust kerr with another lottery pick? I understand not playing Wiseman. But Moody and JK were basically benched for Anthony Lamb and ty Jerome in a season where the warriors got a 2nd round out. Wasted development for 2 kids who could play. Then this season he kept them behind klay and Wiggins who were objectively terrible for at least 50+ games of the season.
No
Not trading the youth that would be stupid
We need to get younger . I honestly would consider trading steph and dray. Steph can’t guard any of these young/dynamic guards and that affects us tremendously . Don’t think we can get our defense right with him playing extended minutes
And what would be your goal ? Championship ? It took the Wolves, and Thunders for ever to get where they are now and they might flame out next year depending on salary cap, trades etc. (e.g Denver) Warriors stays legit for 10 years with Curry, Dray, Klay. Before that they were in the wilderness for 50 years. And you think you could just get rid of Curry like that and win anything soon ? Ask the Bulls
@@myyololand just start the rebuild now. Curry isn’t taking you anywhere at this age . He can’t defend 97 percent of the point guards in the league . Unless you want to have the highest payroll ever to be a 10 seed or less every single year. The twolves or thunder may flame out , but they’ll be in the hunt every single year. The longer we keep steph and dray, the longer it’ll take to upgrade the talent. The warriors barely have any assets as it is . We’re in the wilderness right now with steph, dray, and klay
@@ninerempire3398 You are just living in the moment because of Wolves defense isn't it?
Curry would need a double teaming until he retired, that already give the 4 other players to operate. You add solid athletic young players around him like JK, Moody, TJD, Dejounte, Claxton/Allen/Jonathan Isaac and you can go very very far
@@myyololand i’m living in reality. The last 2 seasons haven’t been good and it’s been getting worse . The whole league is getting younger and more athletic while curry gets older and worse at defense/dray gets older and loses athleticism. We won’t get any of the players you mentioned unless they give up JK, moody, podz , or TJD. Most likely you give up JK and that takes away the future and elite athleticism. It’s also getting to the point where you don’t have to double curry. You can put a tall,young, and athletic defender that can stop him l
@@ninerempire3398 Well if you don't pick the CP3 contract you get under the cap. Then you can sign and trade Klay to ORL (if they are willing) You potentially can have Jonathan Isaac/Wendell Carter + a filler (Ingles). You can use Ingles contract + Podz/TJD/Looney/GP2 and 3 first rounds and a bunch of second picks for Dejounte Murray or way less for Caruso. There is Wiggins' contract that could also be used though I will keep him instead of trading him for cheap. You can get Claxton through sign and trade also for 2 first rounds + salaries (Looney, GP3). With good manoeuvres, we could align Curry, Dejounte/Caruso, Wiggins, Moody, JK, and Wendell/Claxton as the first team. Then still get a decent bench with Lester, Podz/TJD (one of them will be traded) Garuba, Dray and 2 or 3 vets on the cheap. And it could even be awesome if Curry renegotiated his contract removing 15-20M and extending for 3 more years. That means you could target a game-changer 6th man on the market. So no, the Warriors are not doomed yet
Who is taking Wiggins the guy is a bum we are toast ! Trade the whole team and Kerr for Victor Wanyama