I like how the germans, having better fighters and better armed, aim really good and their bullets just refuse to hit, Not like the americans, they shoot 3 .50 cal bullets, get 6 hits, a bomber down and sink a battleship
The ship part is true kinda, they did attack a German minelayer near Sardinia, however it was disabled, not sunk, and a minelayer, the film grossly exaggerates the event, as it does with almost everything about the 332nd
@@bradley19822 What the fuck are you talking about? The P-40 fought with every major allied power against the German Luftwaffe in every theatre of the war, from North Africa to Normandy. Countless Me-109s were downed by allied airmen flying P-40s in their various guises. Study your history, goofball!
2:07-2:11, great shot of the 109👌🏻. Despite that though, this film really doesn’t show how superior the 109 was to P-40, especially the G model which is shown here.
My dad was a Hurricane Pilot during the war and he said that you never flew directly at another plane. The closing speed was too fast that you couldnt get any shots off. You always circled around gaining altitude until you could attack from above and behind. Secondly you only had enough ammunition for about 15 seconds so lots of little bursts not these stupid long bursts with unlimited ammo. Once you were out of ammo you were no good to anyone. Films like this belittle the efforts and skill of the real men who fly combat missions in any war.
They should learn a bit of history, being a a REAL FAN of this kind involves a bit of knowledge to REALLY ENJOY and get the REAL THING.... THE LOVE OF FIGHTERS AND THE AERIAL BATTLES.
@@joesamabinbiden6663 So can you name a war movie that's not made for propaganda ??? Chinese movie huh??? Stupid logic ./. Go watch how Russian and Chinese made movie about war. More propaganda More unrealism than US movie.
The P-40 did all right in North Africa but was being replaced by more advanced machines by the time of the Axis surrender of Tunisia in 1943. It also did very well in the Far East, especially the India-China-Burma Theater. A 109E type could outclimb a P-40 and out perform it above 15000 ft. Below 15000 ft the situation and pilot skill would determine the outcome. Mid war 109F, G, and later modelsof the type depicted in this extremely inaccurate excerpt were superior in every aspect, but would not have enountered P-40s in any numbers at the time of the Normandy landings. Instead they would have faced P-47s, a growing number of P-51Bs and Cs, various Spitfires, and Hawker Typhoons.
@@Werner4voss where does it depict? It seems to start in the far East judging by the type of airfield and the flora. But then past a European castle after s beach landing?? Or is it just a made up battle?
Dramatized but, imagine the kaos in those skies of the past. 300 plus miles an hour and trying to distinguish friend from foe? If any of you are still with us...God bless you.
@@MiG-31893 абсолютно невозможно. Для сбития 6! самолётов не хватило бы боекомплекта. По Хартман было немало анализов. А самого Хартмана несколько раз сбивали русские лётчики. Не верьте мифам, проверяйте информацию!
@@MiG-31893 я имел ввиду в списке ни одного русского. Считаю список бредом ибо подсчёт вёлся по-разному. Например: у Хартмана количество побед не равно количеству сбитых самолётов.
1943년 중반까지는 유럽에서도 지상 공격기/호위기 등으로 P40이 쓰이긴 했습니다. 아주 일부 항공대에서 사용했죠. 33, 57, 58.79, 99, 324, 325 전투 비행단이 P-40을 유럽에서 운용했습니다. 325 전투 비행단의 경우 43년 4월부터 10월까지 총 133킬을 달성하는데 그 중 95대가 BF-109라는 기록이 있습니다. 흑인 전투 비행단으로 유명한 Tuskegee 비행단에서도 P-51이 보급되기 전에는 P-40으로 유럽 전선에서 활약했다는 기록이 있습니다.
This is why I will not usually watch Hollywood movies about the Great Wars, since the Saving Pte Ryan Band of Brothers and Pacific. The latest ones seem jingoistic and normally steal t h e valour of their allies and/or display the axis troops as incompetent fools. The P40 Kittyhawk was not the equal of the Bf 109 E little own the F or G variants.
The P40 Kittyhawk & Tomahawk where inferior to the BF 109 but pilots found out that they never dogfight above 20,000 ft with the P40 and the allison engine because of it's poor high altitude performance. In No. Africa RAF had at least dozen pilots make ace in the P40 like Clive Caldwell RAF 12 kills, James Edwards RCAF 12 kills & Nicky Barr RAAF 12 kills. The P40 had it's limits but once pilots understood that the allison engines did not perform well above 20,000 ft you had a decent fighter, the Russians understood that very well with the P40 & Aircobra. The P40 and its variants stayed in service in the SW Pacific & CBI (China -Burma) theatre until 1944, some US pilots in CBI perferred the P40 over the P51 because of it's rugged build to take many hits and still make it home
Your so right Germany had everything and America just stole it all you realize also that all allies steal from axis like atomic bomb and they all fight strong little Germany. The v2 rocket was the first missed weapon made in Germany and USa took it just to take the first picture of space. So in conclusion, Germany is better than all allies. You rock!
@@dinopellegrini8944 not really they could even won the war. The atomic wasn't even perfect when the german start making it and the v2 rockets were mostly failures.
Dino Pellegrini atomic bomb was invented by the US, getmany was sabotaged before they could even begin to research atomic weaponry. V2 rocket, while being the first missile, isnt the only missile to exist. The allies made their own, and that doesnt include the small rockets on planes. Even considering rocket engines on planes, Germany was the first with its he-162 and jumbo engines, but at the same time Britain was producing its own special engine on the meteor. Germany just finished first. Not much stolen except Braun.
When the German squad leader pulled the stick and the plane literally did a 180 mid-air, yeah no way. Never in a million years. Also why do they think American pilots all talk like NFL players?
The closest I ever played a mission like this was the “Tuskegee Airmen” addon to “Combat Flight Simulator”. Oh believe me it was tough because the German planes I dealt with were FW-190s and not BF-109s (the P-40 cannot fight an FW-190 with such moves as seen here).
P40's only had a single stage supercharger making them, like the p39, unsuitable for operations over northern Europe. Like the p-38, however, the p-40 did very well in Asia and the Mediterranean. Read the Wikipedia article. Lots of bf-109 kills. Don't like to see a good plane rubbished. That said, this movie is ridiculous.
What a shame this technical excellence is wasted on ridiculous, impossible flight modes and tactics. No way would the pilots attack in such a thick mass of planes. Midair collisions and other disasters would ensue. They were heroes just by taking up the challenge of aerial combat. No need to cheapen their experience by comic book and unreal histrionics. I’m afraid modern, younger audiences can’t function without overly dramatic and eye popping graphics. Sad.
Rojay Reid, Hi I’ve watched them all my life. It can be a “hairball” that’s true but I’ve spoken to veterans also.They are human beings and although many times they have risked their lives in crazy actions I don’t believe they would start a combat engagement in such a cluster of planes. It defeats the purpose of trying to kill an enemy when you have to fly in an attack as if you are flying formation. One pilot flys and the rest keep their eyes on him and their wingmen so they can stay in formation and not hit each other. Can’t set up an attack if you can’t focus on the enemy planes. Once the SHTF, all bets are off. I have seen film of one plane fly through the fire of an allied plane because of target fixation. No need to contribute to friendly fire casualties by the tactics shown in the video IMO. THANKS 😊
Dude if u see it realistic: germans got Airmine ammo (HE anti plane ammo wich explodes at impact or after a certain Distance and frags come out and destroy everything inside the plane) in their 20mm guns and the BF 109 F4 to 6 had 2-4 20mm guns... They even tested this ammo and it needed 2-5 not even direct hits to destroy a Bomber... So yeah thats america for u... Making themeself bigger as they are. I mean their Tanks are shit, their Planes were shit too (now they god good ones) and their ships were even more trash
LSR MФЯТłS Compare that to the rest of the German military. The kreigsmarine was absolute shit, barely even existed except for submarines. Their tanks were barely above average, with victories made thanks to the new blitzkrieg tactic rather than the actual tank. Their planes were also random in performance with the 109 being pretty much the only exception. No good bombers, stukas excelled so much at cas that they were murdered in air combat. Me262 barely got off the ground and the me163 exploded midair half the time.
No one feared the me 109. I have no idea what your talking about the only fighter that had a real infamous reputation was that mishubishi Zero . Everything else was largely meh
...он зашел в хвост 109 положил палцы на гашетку, вспомнил свой хижина на Миссисипи, вдавил гашетку...... И тут что-то пошло не так, точнее негр проснулся 🤣🤣🤣
A ver, yo se que el rigor histórico no es algo que caracteriza a las películas históricas de Hollywood, pero de verdad amigos, ver como un P 40 derriba uno tras otro a varios 109 es algo que me supera. Lo único que falta por ver en esta película es a el Halcón milenario
@@ismaelnefmartinez6637 cierto, investigue y es verdad que solo se derribó 1 avión y eso porque el piloto alemán se confió... de echo eran el "terror" de aquella época... y los primeros aviones con inyección a propulsión más avanzados en todos sentidos , más veloces que cualquiera. Lamentablemente su tardía inclusión a la guerra en 1945 y sus pocas unidades construidas , Alemania aún así ya tenía su destino perdido... de lo contrario hubiese cambiado la historia que hoy conocemos. Ese es el problema con Hollywood; engrandece por demasiado su historia a traves de sus películas en todos los aspectos.
Jajajaj sí eso pensé, los p-40 sólo eran superiores a los bf 109 en maniobrabilidad, las versiones tardías del p-40 como las que aparecen en el video tenían motores más potentes y todo pero para el momento en que llegaron los alemanes ya habían mejorado mucho su bf-109 al punto en que los p-40 no eran rivales
Not a lot of WWII (or any) aircraft movies being made these days, good or bad, so I'll take what I can get. Not a bad effort. Read a book about 112 squadron in Africa. They did pretty well with the Kittyhawk against the Bf 109.
3:05 - просто шикарнейший маневр стодевятого. Коварно, очень коварно для преследователей. Бипланы и трипланы I МВ неистово завидуют. Восхищен такой придумкой матрасных киноделов. Браво!
Во вторых у р40 вооружэние слабоватое было ,в третьих это вообще не самый лучьшый самоелёт,а в четвертых немецкие летчики уровнем были вышэ ,дажэ в 44!а вот к 45 ужэ да у них была сильная убыль, самый жэсткий последний бой асов был в венгрии! Дажэ называется "хмурое небо венгрии", там воевали асы! А р51 вообще имел очень слабое вооружэние. Так чьто это чисто голивудская срань и не более.увы....
Сообственно говоря по этому винтовочьный калиб и не брал почьти месеры! Он слабый был! А в 41 году почьти у всей антигитлеровской коалицыи был винтовочьный патрон. А в 42 у нашых истребителей как правило боезапас пушэк был маленький и летные характеристики не очень! Спифаиры тожэ по начялу как правило пулиметные были! Немцы конечьно были новаторами ,а остальные догоняющими ,а сша так вообще позжэ всех в войну вступили и дажэ тогда и то воевали на тихом океане а там спецыфика другая и плюс ввс сша тожэ там использовало винтовочьный патрон ибо у японцев брони вообще не было. Так чьто они позжэ всех в этом плане начяли развиваться! Токо к 43 когда поняли чьто винтовочьный патрон это не о чём,когда повоевали в африке. Англичяне всё таки опыт и умение по большэ имели ,просто у англии таких ресурсов и мощьностей как у сша не имелось.
@@fabrealexandre9622 Gs did outclimb and outturn the Mustangs. G-10s and G-14/ASs were also close with the speed of the early P-51Bs and therefore basically better aircrafts.
In the real story Us pilots over Europe had P47 and P51 to outclass the german Me109. And britains had the last Spitfire versions and Typhoon/Tempest to outclass the dying luftwafe after 1943
На момент высадки в Нормандии P-40 "Ворхаук",даже не "Киттихаук" оставались во втростепенных подразделениях нац.гвардии на территории США и в ВВС на территории Канады.Воевали в Юго-Восточной Азии в составе ВВС Великобритании и Австралии.Имея скорость 530 км /час на высоте 3000 м,у земли уже изрядно устаревшие у тому времени ,еле -еле показывали скорость более 400 км/ч.Так,что они никаким образом не могли не то,что догнать BF 109 модификаций G уже не 6,а 10 и 14 серий,но иэффективно уйти из под удара.А в пикировании за Мессершмидтом их конструкция уж точно бы развалилась.
How did P- 40 Managed to fly on one tank form beach lending, I assuming in Normandy to the middle of Czech Republic. The castle in one 3:36 is Karlštejn Castle
So many North Carolina class US Battleships in that single invasion shot... when in fact not a single US post Pearl Harbor one was present near Itally - where movie started) because all new US Navy Battleships were deployed at the Pacific to counter IJN... On the other hand this movie is as much "realistic and faithful to the TRUE story of the Red Tails" as was M. B's Pear Harbor to the events of the December 7th 1941...
Whilst the CGI looks fairly good, the sequence itself is pretty ludicrous as far as the depiction of tactics goes. Despite silly notions of 'knights of the sky' and such, fighter pilots generally don't want to give the other guy a chance by whirling around jousting, giving them, or more likely their buddy whom you can't see, the opportunity to get a shot off. Tactically, this would be suicidal when lots of enemy aeroplanes are about. This is precisely why most fighter pilots tried to sneak up on someone before they'd even seen the threat, then shoot them up the arse whilst they are unable to defend themselves. It's nasty and cruel, but this is what war is about, or as George S Patton rather neatly summed it up: 'The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his'. The classic example of this attitude in a fighter pilot, is Manfred Von Richthofen in WW1. He would spend a long time maneuvering his flight into a superior tactical position and then command his squadron to make one slashing attack from that superior position to decimate the enemy flight, then he would withdraw and circle around the edges of a dogfight until he spotted an isolated and less skilled opponent, whom he would pounce upon. This isn't 'fair' of course, but he was was under no illusions of chivalry. He had no desire to make it a fair fight because he understood that a fighter pilot's job is to shoot down planes, and the best way to do that is to clobber them from behind whilst they are at a disadvantage, and preferably when they've not even seen you coming and there's less of them too. These tactics, which Richthofen's mentor Oswald Boelcke taught him, and which WW2 Luftwaffe pilots such as Werner Moelders developed even further, are what fighter pilots use, not the preposterous twisting and weaving depicted in this footage, which would achieve nothing other than to bleed off energy and leave one low, slow and out of tactical options. The P-40 was not as fast as the 109G, but it was more maneuverable and had well balanced controls which made it easier to maneuver at speed, and it could match the 109 in speed at medium altitudes. Historically, the P-40 gets a bad rap because it was the first US-built fighter to come up against the Mitsubishi A6M 'Zero', so it took a while for P-40 pilots to determine the best tactics to use against the Zero, with them initially trying to dogfight it when the Zero was extremely nimble at low speeds. This was also at a time when Japanese pilots typically had about 800 hours of stick time and quite a bit of combat experience, whereas US pilots tended to have about 250 hours and little in the way of combat experience, with predictable results of course. We see this with RAF pilots against the Luftwaffe in the war in France in 1939 and 1940 too, where their tactics were poor whereas the Luftwaffe's pilots, like their Japanese counterparts, already had a lot of combat experience. But when this initial cadre of very experienced Axis pilots was eventually killed off and their replacements meant the relative skill levels of US and Axis pilots had more parity, and better tactics were in place, we see the P-40 in its true light in the CBI theatre as a decent fighter aeroplane when used at the right altitude and with the right tactics against a pilot of comparable skill. This attrition and change in the relative skills of combat pilots is no less true in North Africa against German pilots in their 109s than it was anywhere else. The truth is that the Allies could afford a lot of initial losses, and as cruel as it is, Allied leaders were prepared to accept these losses because they knew the way the wind was blowing. The Germans and Japanese were simply not in a position to do anything similar, so as the war went on, the results were inevitably in favour of the Allies, where better training and no requirement for Allied pilots to fly for years on end with no breaks in their tour of duty, lead to what was for the Axis, an unstoppable onslaught which they could do little to counter. There were brief moments where newly-introduced German and Japanese machines occasionally offered an advantage, but in the end these wonder weapons could simply not outpace the manpower and machinery output of the United States and the Soviet Union. Basically, the Germans and the Japanese needed a quick victory with as little attrition as possible, and when that wasn't forthcoming, losing WW2 was inevitable for them. So whilst this footage depicts the P-40s being all over the German 109s, which was quite often the case, it was not because of some preposterous movie choreography, it was simply the inevitable result of being outnumbered and outgunned by a well-trained and well-rested force which had learned some hard lessons from its opponents earlier in the war.
German aces had more kills because they were used in combat after they became an ace. American aces have fewer total kills because once they became an ace they were sent back to the USA to train new pilots providing arguably a better quality of pilots overall rather than a select number of outstanding pilots.
Ну почему же не имел шансов? , лендлизовские p-40 на русском севере довольно хорошо себя показали. Даже лучше харрикейнов. Конечно Аэрокобра была лучшей .....главная сила любой техники находится в голове и руках ее владельца. Если пилот за ручку управления как за свой хуй держится, то и результат будет хуевый.
Красивая сказка, ребята. МЕ-109G брал Р-40 как ястреб курицу. Единственный USAF самолет, который рубил МЕ-109, это Р-51. Остальные, это летающие мешени для МЕ-109.
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I like how the germans, having better fighters and better armed, aim really good and their bullets just refuse to hit,
Not like the americans, they shoot 3 .50 cal bullets, get 6 hits, a bomber down and sink a battleship
You forgot about the bunker 10 miles back.
The ship part is true kinda, they did attack a German minelayer near Sardinia, however it was disabled, not sunk, and a minelayer, the film grossly exaggerates the event, as it does with almost everything about the 332nd
And thats how we won the war
@@bradley19822 What the fuck are you talking about? The P-40 fought with every major allied power against the German Luftwaffe in every theatre of the war, from North Africa to Normandy. Countless Me-109s were downed by allied airmen flying P-40s in their various guises. Study your history, goofball!
Yeah, but the yanks are black, so the film makers re on the RIGHT side of history. Nevermind facts as they re hurtful.
2:07-2:11, great shot of the 109👌🏻. Despite that though, this film really doesn’t show how superior the 109 was to P-40, especially the G model which is shown here.
Name of the movie please?
@@mhmuhid2520 Red tails 2012
20mm mg 151 fucks all
109G-14
My dad was a Hurricane Pilot during the war and he said that you never flew directly at another plane. The closing speed was too fast that you couldnt get any shots off. You always circled around gaining altitude until you could attack from above and behind. Secondly you only had enough ammunition for about 15 seconds so lots of little bursts not these stupid long bursts with unlimited ammo. Once you were out of ammo you were no good to anyone. Films like this belittle the efforts and skill of the real men who fly combat missions in any war.
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Good information that i dont know what your talking about those umlimited ammo
Good information that i dont know what your talking about those umlimited ammo
AMEN. Plus they never flew that close one another and the maneuvering depicted here is way too subtle.
They should learn a bit of history, being a a REAL FAN of this kind involves a bit of knowledge to REALLY ENJOY and get the REAL THING.... THE LOVE OF FIGHTERS AND THE AERIAL BATTLES.
When heroism is more important than realism ...
It's US propaganda what do you expect?
@@joesamabinbiden6663 So can you name a war movie that's not made for propaganda ??? Chinese movie huh??? Stupid logic ./. Go watch how Russian and Chinese made movie about war. More propaganda More unrealism than US movie.
Stupid Hollywood logic :/
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Yes+1
How is this Hollywood. More like Disney.
@@blackkaw1 you made my day XD
The P-40 did all right in North Africa but was being replaced by more advanced machines by the time of the Axis surrender of Tunisia in 1943. It also did very well in the Far East, especially the India-China-Burma Theater. A 109E type could outclimb a P-40 and out perform it above 15000 ft. Below 15000 ft the situation and pilot skill would determine the outcome. Mid war 109F, G, and later modelsof the type depicted in this extremely inaccurate excerpt were superior in every aspect, but would not have enountered P-40s in any numbers at the time of the Normandy landings. Instead they would have faced P-47s, a growing number of P-51Bs and Cs, various Spitfires, and Hawker Typhoons.
this scene is not about the Normandy landing
欧米・中国が何億人殺した
280年植民地にした
家畜にした
奴隷労働に使った
Europe, America and China killed hundreds of millions
280 colonized
Made into livestock
Used for slave labor
@@Werner4voss where does it depict? It seems to start in the far East judging by the type of airfield and the flora. But then past a European castle after s beach landing?? Or is it just a made up battle?
@@jonboy481 it says in the movie,its a landing of somewhere in Italy
Its about the red tails a all black squadron, they were given outdated equipment to fight with. Hence the p-40s
Legend has it, not a single american plane got shot down during WWII
Dramatized but, imagine the kaos in those skies of the past. 300 plus miles an hour and trying to distinguish friend from foe? If any of you are still with us...God bless you.
I counted 5 Me 109's shot down and not a single P 40.... The me 109 was a superior plane especially at high altitudes
It all depends on the pilot. Of course this is hollywood though so who tf cares about logic lmao
Top fighter pilots of WW 2: Germans from rank 1 (Erich Hartmann, 352 victories) to rank 237 (Manfred Meurer, 65 victories), except rank 119 (Juutilainen, Finnland, 94 victories), 150 (Iwamoto, Japan, 80 victories), 167 (Wind, Finnland, 75 victories), 182 (Fokumoto, Japan, 72 victories), 201 (Sujita, Japan, 70 victories) and 211 (Cantcuzino, Romania, 69 victories).
Следом давай статистику потерь в летчиках по странам участницам.
И ни одного русского. Совпадение?
@@denixespol8245not a single Russian lost???
Ont finish pilot destroyed 6 Russian planes in a single mission
@@MiG-31893 абсолютно невозможно. Для сбития 6! самолётов не хватило бы боекомплекта. По Хартман было немало анализов. А самого Хартмана несколько раз сбивали русские лётчики. Не верьте мифам, проверяйте информацию!
@@MiG-31893 я имел ввиду в списке ни одного русского. Считаю список бредом ибо подсчёт вёлся по-разному. Например: у Хартмана количество побед не равно количеству сбитых самолётов.
1943년 중반까지는 유럽에서도 지상 공격기/호위기 등으로 P40이 쓰이긴 했습니다. 아주 일부 항공대에서 사용했죠. 33, 57, 58.79, 99, 324, 325 전투 비행단이 P-40을 유럽에서 운용했습니다. 325 전투 비행단의 경우 43년 4월부터 10월까지 총 133킬을 달성하는데 그 중 95대가 BF-109라는 기록이 있습니다. 흑인 전투 비행단으로 유명한 Tuskegee 비행단에서도 P-51이 보급되기 전에는 P-40으로 유럽 전선에서 활약했다는 기록이 있습니다.
활약→운용
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1943년까지
Bf-109의 격추 기록중
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P-40
@@koreas8164 WTF
@@koreas8164 제로센 한테도 털리던 애들인데 백구 상대로는 더 답이없죠.
제로센은 그나마 물장갑이라는걸 이용해서 헤드온 싸움을 유도하면 이길수도 있지만
AT LAST!!! A war movie squarely aimed at the lucrative pre school market!
This is why I will not usually watch Hollywood movies about the Great Wars, since the Saving Pte Ryan Band of Brothers and Pacific. The latest ones seem jingoistic and normally steal t h e valour of their allies and/or display the axis troops as incompetent fools. The P40 Kittyhawk was not the equal of the Bf 109 E little own the F or G variants.
The P40 Kittyhawk & Tomahawk where inferior to the BF 109 but pilots found out that they never dogfight above 20,000 ft with the P40 and the allison engine because of it's poor high altitude performance. In No. Africa RAF had at least dozen pilots make ace in the P40 like Clive Caldwell RAF 12 kills, James Edwards RCAF 12 kills & Nicky Barr RAAF 12 kills. The P40 had it's limits but once pilots understood that the allison engines did not perform well above 20,000 ft you had a decent fighter, the Russians understood that very well with the P40 & Aircobra. The P40 and its variants stayed in service in the SW Pacific & CBI (China -Burma) theatre until 1944, some US pilots in CBI perferred the P40 over the P51 because of it's rugged build to take many hits and still make it home
The differences in performance were not as large as is popularly believed. ME109 pilots who underestimated allied aircraft would likely end up dead.
Dunkirk was good, brief dogfight scenes much better than this CGI crap
p40: this for you pretty boy with bright yellow nose
Bf 109 g : ok 3:06
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bias confirmed
109: Breaks all laws of nature
No one:
Literally no one:
War thunder planes in arcade battles: 3:06
not gonna lie
Bro I figured out how to do that maneuver with the bf 104 f4
로테 원조 독일은 솔로비행하고 있고, 미군은 로테, 편대로 싸우고 있네. 워호크가 bf109랑 도그파이팅을 일방적으로 하는 영화이니..
Wtf, are USA inmortals? Only see germans die, and they had planes more powerful that p40... Is stupid
Because the red tails were the best. Watch the full movie some P40s got shot down too.
Your so right Germany had everything and America just stole it all you realize also that all allies steal from axis like atomic bomb and they all fight strong little Germany. The v2 rocket was the first missed weapon made in Germany and USa took it just to take the first picture of space. So in conclusion, Germany is better than all allies. You rock!
@@dinopellegrini8944 not really they could even won the war. The atomic wasn't even perfect when the german start making it and the v2 rockets were mostly failures.
Mate... Its made from americans for americans
Dino Pellegrini atomic bomb was invented by the US, getmany was sabotaged before they could even begin to research atomic weaponry. V2 rocket, while being the first missile, isnt the only missile to exist. The allies made their own, and that doesnt include the small rockets on planes. Even considering rocket engines on planes, Germany was the first with its he-162 and jumbo engines, but at the same time Britain was producing its own special engine on the meteor. Germany just finished first. Not much stolen except Braun.
When the German squad leader pulled the stick and the plane literally did a 180 mid-air, yeah no way. Never in a million years. Also why do they think American pilots all talk like NFL players?
P40은 BF109의 걍 밥인건대데 어찌 저리 잘싸우냐
The closest I ever played a mission like this was the “Tuskegee Airmen” addon to “Combat Flight Simulator”. Oh believe me it was tough because the German planes I dealt with were FW-190s and not BF-109s (the P-40 cannot fight an FW-190 with such moves as seen here).
Raymond Yee except the P40's handled the Bf109's in the mediteranian theater !!!
@@wilburfinnigan2142 because they had better pilots
One thing I will give the movie, it's those Bf109 engine noises! Oh gosh those are eargasmic!
In what Universum or Dimension was That ?
P40's only had a single stage supercharger making them, like the p39, unsuitable for operations over northern Europe. Like the p-38, however, the p-40 did very well in Asia and the Mediterranean. Read the Wikipedia article. Lots of bf-109 kills. Don't like to see a good plane rubbished. That said, this movie is ridiculous.
Sure...only the enemies got losses .... very realistic 👎👎
What a shame this technical excellence is wasted on ridiculous, impossible flight modes and tactics. No way would the pilots attack in such a thick mass of planes. Midair collisions and other disasters would ensue. They were heroes just by taking up the challenge of aerial combat. No need to cheapen their experience by comic book and unreal histrionics. I’m afraid modern, younger audiences can’t function without overly dramatic and eye popping graphics. Sad.
BLM propaganda what did you expect.
Did you ever watch WW2 documentaries dogfights were very intense.
@@rojayreid908 Wrong, you watch too many propaganda movies.
Rojay Reid, Hi I’ve watched them all my life. It can be a “hairball” that’s true but I’ve spoken to veterans also.They are human beings and although many times they have risked their lives in crazy actions I don’t believe they would start a combat engagement in such a cluster of planes. It defeats the purpose of trying to kill an enemy when you have to fly in an attack as if you are flying formation. One pilot flys and the rest keep their eyes on him and their wingmen so they can stay in formation and not hit each other. Can’t set up an attack if you can’t focus on the enemy planes. Once the SHTF, all bets are off. I have seen film of one plane fly through the fire of an allied plane because of target fixation. No need to contribute to friendly fire casualties by the tactics shown in the video IMO. THANKS 😊
@@flycatchful what propaganda movies to prove that Black American pilots were shooting down German finest. You don't like the truth.
Did anyone on this movie do any historical research? Honestly, three squirrels using IL-2 footage could have done better
Not sure it's about that mate, no American film is about accurate history man, come on you should know this by now.
@@paddyk3748 Tropic Thunder?
@@kzintilord6145 oh sh1t i forgot about that one. That's an exception, 😂😂👍👍
Winners of the history of war write
이 영화의 가장큰 거짓말이 P-40은 BF대비 근접 성능이 딸려서 영화 같이 대등한 전투가 불가능함..
더 문제인건 후반에 P-51D 하고 ME262 하고 헤드온 상황에서 30mm 미넨게쇼스탄 듬뿍 얻어맞고도 살아남는다는거임
미넨게쇼스탄?
@@m2cheki1 독일에서 특수제작한 탄인데 금속가공 기술을 바탕으로 외피는 얇게, 안에ㅜ작약은 많이 넣게끔 제작해서 착탄후 살짝 파고들었을때 상대적으로 많은 작약이 터져서 비행기에 엄청큰 피해를 주게 설계된 탄입니다.
언제나졸려 P40은 제로보다 안좋았는데... 백구를ㄷㄷ
@@War_Hammer1 머스탱이 조준도 제대로 안되는 슈발베 30미리에 맞는게 더 오류인겁니다.
The Luftwaffe is too weak, it can't be helped because it's an American movie!
Red Tails leaves a lot to be desired; a lot of inaccuracies throughout the film.
What happens to those brain Dead 109 players when they dont climb:
True American bias slapped into a squadron of P-40s
The American bais slaps hard than my dad when he's angry.
독일공군 저렇게 싸우면 6년 못싸우지...
Wtf P40 again BF109 G6,F4 G14? HAHAHAHAHAH
Whats wrong with you
@Samuel Sampaio He means that P40 can't beat BF109
@@Kaine-ub5lf He means that P40 can't beat BF109
@@joosegeneral1359 bruh p40 pilots can
@@Kaine-ub5lf That's the great blacked
머스탱이랑 메262랑 헤드온해서 머스탱이 이기는 고증 태워버린 미국판 R2B:리턴투베이스
Red Tails: OH GOD THEY GOT DA PRO BF109G6
GERMANS:HEHEHHEHEHEH
Haha german Shot down by Usaf
Dude if u see it realistic: germans got Airmine ammo (HE anti plane ammo wich explodes at impact or after a certain Distance and frags come out and destroy everything inside the plane) in their 20mm guns and the BF 109 F4 to 6 had 2-4 20mm guns... They even tested this ammo and it needed 2-5 not even direct hits to destroy a Bomber... So yeah thats america for u... Making themeself bigger as they are. I mean their Tanks are shit, their Planes were shit too (now they god good ones) and their ships were even more trash
LSR MФЯТłS Compare that to the rest of the German military. The kreigsmarine was absolute shit, barely even existed except for submarines. Their tanks were barely above average, with victories made thanks to the new blitzkrieg tactic rather than the actual tank. Their planes were also random in performance with the 109 being pretty much the only exception. No good bombers, stukas excelled so much at cas that they were murdered in air combat. Me262 barely got off the ground and the me163 exploded midair half the time.
The Americans' fear of the Messerschmidts back then is now being dealt with with such stupid films LOL
No one feared the me 109. I have no idea what your talking about the only fighter that had a real infamous reputation was that mishubishi Zero . Everything else was largely meh
@@terrellfair9812 Your knowledge of the subject is extremely meh.
@@terrellfair9812 haha wtf are u talking about
Ещё бы воевали так, как кино снимают.
欧米・中国が何億人殺した
280年植民地にした
家畜にした
奴隷労働に使った
Europe, America and China killed hundreds of millions
280 colonized
Made into livestock
Used for slave labor
...он зашел в хвост 109 положил палцы на гашетку, вспомнил свой хижина на Миссисипи, вдавил гашетку...... И тут что-то пошло не так, точнее негр проснулся 🤣🤣🤣
@@ПавелГромов-й5л アンポンタンバカ
WOW, what movie is this? I'd love to watch it.
So many experts.
A ver, yo se que el rigor histórico no es algo que caracteriza a las películas históricas de Hollywood, pero de verdad amigos, ver como un P 40 derriba uno tras otro a varios 109 es algo que me supera. Lo único que falta por ver en esta película es a el Halcón milenario
Que película es?
@@josuerodriguez1188 red tails
@@ismaelnefmartinez6637 cierto, investigue y es verdad que solo se derribó 1 avión y eso porque el piloto alemán se confió... de echo eran el "terror" de aquella época... y los primeros aviones con inyección a propulsión más avanzados en todos sentidos , más veloces que cualquiera. Lamentablemente su tardía inclusión a la guerra en 1945 y sus pocas unidades construidas , Alemania aún así ya tenía su destino perdido... de lo contrario hubiese cambiado la historia que hoy conocemos. Ese es el problema con Hollywood; engrandece por demasiado su historia a traves de sus películas en todos los aspectos.
Jajajaj sí eso pensé, los p-40 sólo eran superiores a los bf 109 en maniobrabilidad, las versiones tardías del p-40 como las que aparecen en el video tenían motores más potentes y todo pero para el momento en que llegaron los alemanes ya habían mejorado mucho su bf-109 al punto en que los p-40 no eran rivales
Due to its poor performance, the P40 was only used in the Pacific region, North Africa and the Mediterranean area.
Yes, and P-40 have no match against Messersmitth Bf109.......
Not a lot of WWII (or any) aircraft movies being made these days, good or bad, so I'll take what I can get. Not a bad effort. Read a book about 112 squadron in Africa. They did pretty well with the Kittyhawk against the Bf 109.
maybee but NOT against a G6
What's movie?
Red Tails
This clip is from the movie red tails and I love how you cut all the scenes with the pilots in them
3:05 - просто шикарнейший маневр стодевятого. Коварно, очень коварно для преследователей. Бипланы и трипланы I МВ неистово завидуют.
Восхищен такой придумкой матрасных киноделов. Браво!
Я сам охуел 😆. Семь раз пересматривал - так даже Зиро не сможет ))). "Законы аэродинамики? Не, не слышали" и 😆😆
What movie is this because I want to watch it
P40이 BF를 발르네... 게다가 G형을 아놔...ㅋㅋㅋ
@Jammin's hate-
E형한테도 어렵습니다...물론 저건 g..
Ну прям кинокомедия какая то )))
Во первых я написал это - Holiwuds american super geroes 😅😅
Во вторых у р40 вооружэние слабоватое было ,в третьих это вообще не самый лучьшый самоелёт,а в четвертых немецкие летчики уровнем были вышэ ,дажэ в 44!а вот к 45 ужэ да у них была сильная убыль, самый жэсткий последний бой асов был в венгрии! Дажэ называется "хмурое небо венгрии", там воевали асы! А р51 вообще имел очень слабое вооружэние. Так чьто это чисто голивудская срань и не более.увы....
Сообственно говоря по этому винтовочьный калиб и не брал почьти месеры! Он слабый был! А в 41 году почьти у всей антигитлеровской коалицыи был винтовочьный патрон. А в 42 у нашых истребителей как правило боезапас пушэк был маленький и летные характеристики не очень! Спифаиры тожэ по начялу как правило пулиметные были! Немцы конечьно были новаторами ,а остальные догоняющими ,а сша так вообще позжэ всех в войну вступили и дажэ тогда и то воевали на тихом океане а там спецыфика другая и плюс ввс сша тожэ там использовало винтовочьный патрон ибо у японцев брони вообще не было. Так чьто они позжэ всех в этом плане начяли развиваться! Токо к 43 когда поняли чьто винтовочьный патрон это не о чём,когда повоевали в африке. Англичяне всё таки опыт и умение по большэ имели ,просто у англии таких ресурсов и мощьностей как у сша не имелось.
Ребята скажите что за фильм ?
@@maksimusbolsheshapov "Красные хвосты"
P-40 против BF-109? Не смешите меня! P-40 - телега по сравнению с мессером!
Ага, еще и чернота пилоты, так вообще хохма, они бы еще рэп зачитывали в воздухе.
Before watching the video, I understood that Messer would lose. Film of logic «We have won»
I propose a short film "Mozhaisk" about German tankers. Only there is in German and Russian
Hollywood nonsense, the 109 G was even able to compete with P 47 and P 51and would eat P 40 for breakfast
You are right.There is no logic in this scene.
Compete to a p51? AHAHAH
No.....
@@fabrealexandre9622 Wow, quite an "expert" statement. Appears you confuse personal opinion with facts.
@@fabrealexandre9622 Gs did outclimb and outturn the Mustangs. G-10s and G-14/ASs were also close with the speed of the early P-51Bs and therefore basically better aircrafts.
P 40 was totally declased by this version of Me 109 . BUT ... this is a hollywood movie ;-)
In the real story Us pilots over Europe had P47 and P51 to outclass the german Me109. And britains had the last Spitfire versions and Typhoon/Tempest to outclass the dying luftwafe after 1943
@@nous93 True.
На момент высадки в Нормандии P-40 "Ворхаук",даже не "Киттихаук" оставались во втростепенных подразделениях нац.гвардии на территории США и в ВВС на территории Канады.Воевали в Юго-Восточной Азии в составе ВВС Великобритании и Австралии.Имея скорость 530 км /час на высоте 3000 м,у земли уже изрядно устаревшие у тому времени ,еле -еле показывали скорость более 400 км/ч.Так,что они никаким образом не могли не то,что догнать BF 109 модификаций G уже не 6,а 10 и 14 серий,но иэффективно уйти из под удара.А в пикировании за Мессершмидтом их конструкция уж точно бы развалилась.
Name of the movie ?
What movie is this??
How did P- 40 Managed to fly on one tank form beach lending, I assuming in Normandy to the middle of Czech Republic.
The castle in one 3:36 is Karlštejn Castle
I read about the P40 s always losing more in North Africa, if Bf 109 were around
흑뽕 겁나게 맞은 영화라는거 깨닫고 중간에 껐다ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 109가 쏘는건 다 빗나가네ㅋㅋㅋ 워호크가 109랑 싸운다길래 워호크 개 발리겠네 하고 들어왔더니 무슨ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
What film is this ?
Да американцы умеют воевать в мультиках и в кино !)))
2:29 That guy just had his parachute destroyed by that other planes propelor. Feel bad for him.
@Martin Devlin I know, but just cant help but feel bad because there were probably pilots out there during WW2 that suffered the same fate.
@DEFCON ZERO Oh. Didnt notice that.
This is for you pretty boy with your bright yellow nose
it's called a movie ???
Red tails - Afroamerican hero ! bullshit !
So many North Carolina class US Battleships in that single invasion shot... when in fact not a single US post Pearl Harbor one was present near Itally - where movie started) because all new US Navy Battleships were deployed at the Pacific to counter IJN...
On the other hand this movie is as much "realistic and faithful to the TRUE story of the Red Tails" as was M. B's Pear Harbor to the events of the December 7th 1941...
Germany pilot usually dive in from high alt , but not face to face .
Not true again watch the dogfight documentary
What movie ?
ох уж эти американские сказочки))
나는 기억한다 워썬더 할때 P-40 타다 BF-109한테 날개가 찢겨지던 그때를
나는 기억한다 워썬더 할때 스핏파이어 타다 BF-109와 FW-190에게 날개가 잘려나가던 그때를..
나는 기억한다 워썬더 할때 b17를 타다 BF-109한테 날개가 찢겨지던 그때를
다 연합군 전투기구나...
@@kiast767 연암군 전투기........
@@kiast767ㄹㅇ ............
Whilst the CGI looks fairly good, the sequence itself is pretty ludicrous as far as the depiction of tactics goes. Despite silly notions of 'knights of the sky' and such, fighter pilots generally don't want to give the other guy a chance by whirling around jousting, giving them, or more likely their buddy whom you can't see, the opportunity to get a shot off. Tactically, this would be suicidal when lots of enemy aeroplanes are about. This is precisely why most fighter pilots tried to sneak up on someone before they'd even seen the threat, then shoot them up the arse whilst they are unable to defend themselves. It's nasty and cruel, but this is what war is about, or as George S Patton rather neatly summed it up: 'The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his'.
The classic example of this attitude in a fighter pilot, is Manfred Von Richthofen in WW1. He would spend a long time maneuvering his flight into a superior tactical position and then command his squadron to make one slashing attack from that superior position to decimate the enemy flight, then he would withdraw and circle around the edges of a dogfight until he spotted an isolated and less skilled opponent, whom he would pounce upon. This isn't 'fair' of course, but he was was under no illusions of chivalry. He had no desire to make it a fair fight because he understood that a fighter pilot's job is to shoot down planes, and the best way to do that is to clobber them from behind whilst they are at a disadvantage, and preferably when they've not even seen you coming and there's less of them too. These tactics, which Richthofen's mentor Oswald Boelcke taught him, and which WW2 Luftwaffe pilots such as Werner Moelders developed even further, are what fighter pilots use, not the preposterous twisting and weaving depicted in this footage, which would achieve nothing other than to bleed off energy and leave one low, slow and out of tactical options.
The P-40 was not as fast as the 109G, but it was more maneuverable and had well balanced controls which made it easier to maneuver at speed, and it could match the 109 in speed at medium altitudes. Historically, the P-40 gets a bad rap because it was the first US-built fighter to come up against the Mitsubishi A6M 'Zero', so it took a while for P-40 pilots to determine the best tactics to use against the Zero, with them initially trying to dogfight it when the Zero was extremely nimble at low speeds. This was also at a time when Japanese pilots typically had about 800 hours of stick time and quite a bit of combat experience, whereas US pilots tended to have about 250 hours and little in the way of combat experience, with predictable results of course. We see this with RAF pilots against the Luftwaffe in the war in France in 1939 and 1940 too, where their tactics were poor whereas the Luftwaffe's pilots, like their Japanese counterparts, already had a lot of combat experience. But when this initial cadre of very experienced Axis pilots was eventually killed off and their replacements meant the relative skill levels of US and Axis pilots had more parity, and better tactics were in place, we see the P-40 in its true light in the CBI theatre as a decent fighter aeroplane when used at the right altitude and with the right tactics against a pilot of comparable skill. This attrition and change in the relative skills of combat pilots is no less true in North Africa against German pilots in their 109s than it was anywhere else. The truth is that the Allies could afford a lot of initial losses, and as cruel as it is, Allied leaders were prepared to accept these losses because they knew the way the wind was blowing.
The Germans and Japanese were simply not in a position to do anything similar, so as the war went on, the results were inevitably in favour of the Allies, where better training and no requirement for Allied pilots to fly for years on end with no breaks in their tour of duty, lead to what was for the Axis, an unstoppable onslaught which they could do little to counter. There were brief moments where newly-introduced German and Japanese machines occasionally offered an advantage, but in the end these wonder weapons could simply not outpace the manpower and machinery output of the United States and the Soviet Union. Basically, the Germans and the Japanese needed a quick victory with as little attrition as possible, and when that wasn't forthcoming, losing WW2 was inevitable for them. So whilst this footage depicts the P-40s being all over the German 109s, which was quite often the case, it was not because of some preposterous movie choreography, it was simply the inevitable result of being outnumbered and outgunned by a well-trained and well-rested force which had learned some hard lessons from its opponents earlier in the war.
At 1:51 the sound is so satisfying! I don't know why though.
Good Good!
The Empire can't short for nothing....but they sure can turn an airplane like it had a handbrake. Should've trained more on hittin stuff tho.
3:24 This is Karlštejn castle in Czech republic.
12.7mm 기관총에서 네이팜탄 나오는 그 장면 멋지더라구요.
네이팜이 거기서 왜나와
그게 왜 거기서나온답니까.
그게 무슨 그럴듯한 개소리지??..
P-40 이 50구경 기총소사로 비행장을 공격하는데 그렇게 빵빵 터지는걸 두고 하는 말입니다. 과장이 심하죠
m2 브라우닝 6정이 무장인데 이거 기총하나로 무쌍찍음 군함도 잡고 폭탄한발 안떨어뜨리고 기총으로만 비행기지 온갖폭발 불꽃놀이다함 ㅋㅋ 그래서 네이팜탄쏜다고 하신듯 ㅋㅋ
Name film pls thx
Les américains indestructibles selon Hollywood ! Sauf que dans la réalité le Bf109 était beaucoup plus performant que le P40 !
Опять звёздные воины
欧米・中国が何億人殺した
280年植民地にした
家畜にした
奴隷労働に使った
Europe, America and China killed hundreds of millions
280 colonized
Made into livestock
Used for slave labor
Что за фильм?
If we compare the German aces of ww2 with the US access then something is wrong here!
German aces had more kills because they were used in combat after they became an ace. American aces have fewer total kills because once they became an ace they were sent back to the USA to train new pilots providing arguably a better quality of pilots overall rather than a select number of outstanding pilots.
Damn ! The new IL2 looks awesome !
The title of the movie, please
I think it's Red Tails.
Oh my goodness this would be like the biggest dog fight and war.😯😯
what movie name??
Sniff Sniff... you smell that?
*American Bias*
Counter of Russian Bias in War Thunder
I was shooted down by a F3F
And Some American bomber
AND I USE MANY BF 109 VARIANTS
Hans DasPanzerkommandant is odd to see someone come back and comment a second time
Not a bad cartoon. Interesting point that P-40s never fought in the European theatre.
был ,с 1942 года .восточный фронт Советский Союз...
@@фомафомич-о6ф Tried to translate but failed. I would like to understand, can anyone help please?
@@Watcher6969 P-40 He fought in europe .on the side of the USSR .
@@фомафомич-о6ф Yes but these had US markings in the movie. I still liked a lot, thank you.
Man dose Bf-109's had that stormtrooper aim.😁
BF109의 진짜 라이벌은 스피트파이어 인데
미국은 제발 그만 좀 유럽전쟁 영화 만드면 좋겠다.
Say whatever you want but I don’t care, It’s amazing.
I think the P40 was a bit dated next to the BF109, and I'm not sure that it could go head to head ...
3:07 I thought it was a single engine but apparently this is a jet...
It was a possible maneuver, I think the history channel has a video on it
P-40 had no chance in dog fight with BF 109......
Ну почему же не имел шансов? , лендлизовские p-40 на русском севере довольно хорошо себя показали. Даже лучше харрикейнов. Конечно Аэрокобра была лучшей .....главная сила любой техники находится в голове и руках ее владельца. Если пилот за ручку управления как за свой хуй держится, то и результат будет хуевый.
Looks like Star Wars, nothing close to the reality
Красивая сказка, ребята. МЕ-109G брал Р-40 как ястреб курицу. Единственный USAF самолет, который рубил МЕ-109, это Р-51. Остальные, это летающие мешени для МЕ-109.
Ну надо же как то историю переписывать!)))))
Hans-Joachim Marseille in Africa flying an ME-109 shot down 17 British fighters in one day. Eight were P-40'S.
WTF Hollywood 🙄🧐 🤬 always the same shit....
3:08,that maneuver is literally impossible
Even if it would be physically, the pilot would get unconsious cause the the high G rate.
@@CallhimZombie exactly,thus,why i stated it would be impossible
@Call Him Zombie That maneuver happened twice this movie, once from that 109 and the other from the P-51
3:06 Ох уж этот полицейский разворот на 360° на военном истребителе...)
Movie name
Engines sound like RC models...🤣🤣
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