No foreign mercenaries, Alice bands, man buns, bum fluff, pony tails, gloves in May, shaking hands before the game, free kicks for good tackles...and so on: best of all, no gurning Lineker on the TV.
'shaking hands before the game', no not even handshakes I'm afraid but that horrible American hand-grasp thing, Murdoch has ruined English football amongst other crimes against the country.
He gave as good as he got even though he was about six inches shorter. Agree he could have done with losing a few pounds. Shame that his boss Dave Mckay did not have chance to join in. He would have settled it no problem. Derby fan.
@Maxwell Boyne of course I have mate, Iron Mike crapped himself and not quick enough to catch AJ as he ran off down the street. LOL. How the f..k was Franny going to catch him with an upper cut when was about 6 inches shorter than Hunter. Pitch was that muddy that neither could stand up on their feet.Went to the Baseball ground many times and the pitch was still the same in the 1990's, not exactly the O2 or Madison Square Garden.
Rest in peace Francis Lee , before criticising why don't you tell us what you've achieved in your life compared to the successful footballer and millionaire businessman .
@@GrandadsWorkshop5252 Thank you! I agree - Norman was a monster from the waist down, Franny was the same from the waist up!. Hence it being Norman who, we both I think agree, would have lost the fight had it gone the full distance 🙃
When my brother and I went to see The Damned United, when they showed the footage of this, and Barry Davies said "That looked like a right hook from Johnnie Giles!" We immediately turned round to each other and said "That's because it was!"
Leeds , Chelsea, derby county had some hard players you didn't want to be in a tackle with back then shared different trophy in that period before Liverpool dominated the late parts of the 70s and 80s ,it was ashame for football that derby , Leeds , Chelsea fell away after that all three had fantastic players
Notice Glen Keeley in 2nd clip He made his Everton debut v Liverpool, & of course got sent off in 1st half an we lost 5-0,, I dont think he played for Everton again (thank goodness)
Correct. I was scanning the comments to see if anyone else had noticed. Well done. He never played for Everton again. Though he did captain Rovers to a full members cup win at Wembley in '87.
Ah, the good old days of total confusion regarding if a player had been sent off, or not. Hence the introduction of the yellow and red card system. Leeds perfected the art of intimidation of the ref and targeting players while rotating who committed the fouls. They also liked to get the ref "on side", allegedly. They had learned well when falling foul of Johnny Foreigner in Europe. They knew Keegan had a short fuse. Hunter lost the plot when he was wronged by Frannie Lee. Who knows who would have won in an all out fight. Lee was quick with feet and fists, for a little barrel. And Hunter wasn't always brave, quite a fan of the rabbit punch, then retreating to his mob of a team for safety. All of them dirty, even the keeper. My Dad was behind the goal when Leeds played his lower league team in the cup. Keeper Gary Sprake spat in the striker's face. He said the crowd went nuts. "Punch the bloke, yes! SPIT IN HIS FACE??!!" A few minutes later, after Sprake threw the ball out, he was seen out cold on the 6 yard line. Trainer had to be called on to revive him from what was a "mystery punch" from an unknown source. God, I miss 70s football.
I was there following the Whites, and, I remember it well, Norman clobbered Lee almost directly in front of the Leeds fans in the Popside, a knife had only just being thrown at Lee. And, the follow up was mainly Lee swinging into the air and not connecting whereas Hunter connected with Lee and it looked like he burst his lip. RIP Bites Yer Legs MOT
To be fair Frannie Lee could be felled by a light breeze if he was in the penalty area - in an era before everyday diving. After getting to the dressing room, Frannie Lee, bleeding heavily from the mouth, still had to be stopped from going back out to do to Norman Hunter what every other player from the other 94 league clubs wanted to do.
Also, now I rewatch the clip, it's odd. Charlie George was there apparently trying to calm things down and he had more than his fair share of bookings at the Arse, before moving to Derby. But here he was, the calm one.
Lee was way aheaqd of his time in terms of diving for penalties AND there's that famous clip from the 1970 League Cup Final v WBA where a WBA player simply does a "Go away" gesture with Lee instantly going down clutching his face like he'd been given a smack in the mouth by...er Norman Hunter XD I'm sure PL teams all show Franny Lee clips in their diving and cheating training sessions. Lessons from a master 50 years ahead of todays pale shadow diving imitations.
Say what you like about Danny Baker. But he really is a normal football fan from a normal background. He knows that a large proportion of football supporters at games like nothing better than seeing something completely out of the ordinary happening that they'll remember years later. Even if it's players brawling. Rather than these middle class commentators and their completely ridiculous continuing belief in the Corinthian Spirit. Like we're still in the early 20th century and sportsmen are all 'gentlemen'. I still don't like the fact that they won't show pitch invaders/streakers on the TV these days. Nothing better than a pitch invader giving the stewards and Old Bill a right old run around. Especially if the stewards and coppers slip and fall on their arse a few times in the chase.
I still have the (in)famous picture on my computer - Dave Mackay grabbing a handful of Billie Bremners jersey, looking for all the world like things were about to get very, very bad - only for the referee to save Bremners life.
@@healingenso7923 So Bremner lived to wind others up:) First attended match Millwall 5 Hull City 1 3rd September,1962 Tomorrow Millwall at home to Cardiff on....3rd September,2022 .....but where have the last 60 years gone ?
@@healingenso7923 Stil have memories of a large contingent of Derby fans at Millwall, under Cloughie, on 12th April 1969 in their Promotion year, singing thru' the game "Come On Derby!"..😀
Love the indignity of Keegan, after kicking Bremner and going in hard on Giles, then moans when Giles gives him a right hook to the chops, dont try and be the hard man Kev when you're a midget.
Lee would have kicked the shit out of Norman Hunter. Leeds were a disgrace back then, should have had their medals stripped. Lee stormed into the dressing room and invited Hunter outside. Needless to say, he didn't accept...
Hardly surprising Norman didn't take up Franny Lees offer to sort it after he already put him down once...I watched a lot of football in the Seventies as a kid had no ideas Francis Lee could handle himself like that ....
After hearing how much toilet paper Hunter had used, whilst shitting himself, refusing to come out of the dressing room and face Frannie after the match, proved to be an eureka moment. On hanging up his gloves, sorry boots, Frannie moved into business manufacturing toilet rolls.
Midnight without You You obviously didn't hear about the fight that did take place and Lee got marmalized. I am neutral about Lee and Hunter but I must admit it was always accepted Lee was the biggest cheat for diving in the league .
Leeds were animals, they beat they way to the top. Brian Clough was so right about them. Bremmer was the worst, a little red head with a chip on his shoulder because he got picked on at school.
Bremners old mate Dave Mckay would have been even better but do not think would have played for Leeds. There is a great picture of Dave grabbing Bremner by the scruff of the neck when he was playing for Spurs in the 1960's.
Any Rangers player throwing his shirt away in the manner of these two gets - I would expect his coach to batter him off the dressing room wall and wipe up the blood with it.
Leeds were great back then went they " 🎵we all hate Leeds" so on, team we all loved to hate ! Remember how they used line up on Half way line Pre match at eac ground they visited + to wave to crowd 🤔😊😄 to inevitable chorus of boos , ha ha, then there was the silk numbers on socks too. Sadly we Just don't these get characters in the modern game
I remember how long a walk it was from the railway station to Elland Road and how far a run it was in the opposite direction after Derby beat them there.
One of the very best bits of journalism I ever read was about Norman Hunter at Billy Bremner's funeral 'as usual Hunter arrived late and from behind'.
No foreign mercenaries, Alice bands, man buns, bum fluff, pony tails, gloves in May, shaking hands before the game, free kicks for good tackles...and so on: best of all, no gurning Lineker on the TV.
'shaking hands before the game', no not even handshakes I'm afraid but that horrible American hand-grasp thing, Murdoch has ruined English football amongst other crimes against the country.
Yet the premier league is the best in the world now.
You Sound like a boomer conservatoid with a persecution fetish
@@VanderlyndenJengold Best hyped as Roy Keane says.
Great stuff!
I really miss the physical side in the modern game.
Fancy hitting Lee like that when he was pregnant.
He gave as good as he got even though he was about six inches shorter. Agree he could have done with losing a few pounds. Shame that his boss Dave Mckay did not have chance to join in. He would have settled it no problem. Derby fan.
@Maxwell Boyne of course I have mate, Iron Mike crapped himself and not quick enough to catch AJ as he ran off down the street. LOL. How the f..k was Franny going to catch him with an upper cut when was about 6 inches shorter than Hunter. Pitch was that muddy that neither could stand up on their feet.Went to the Baseball ground many times and the pitch was still the same in the 1990's, not exactly the O2 or Madison Square Garden.
Rest in peace Francis Lee , before criticising why don't you tell us what you've achieved in your life compared to the successful footballer and millionaire businessman .
Haha brilliant I can’t believe all the comments about Lee not having a chance they must not have watched the part where he dumps Hunter on his arse.
@@GrandadsWorkshop5252 Thank you!
I agree - Norman was a monster from the waist down, Franny was the same from the waist up!. Hence it being Norman who, we both I think agree, would have lost the fight had it gone the full distance 🙃
When my brother and I went to see The Damned United, when they showed the footage of this, and Barry Davies said "That looked like a right hook from Johnnie Giles!" We immediately turned round to each other and said "That's because it was!"
Leeds , Chelsea, derby county had some hard players you didn't want to be in a tackle with back then shared different trophy in that period before Liverpool dominated the late parts of the 70s and 80s ,it was ashame for football that derby , Leeds , Chelsea fell away after that all three had fantastic players
Classic. RIP Franny Lee. Norman' Bites Yer Legs' Hunter also passed away. Two legends.
Good old days when football was at its best.
Lee kept Derbyshire's pie making industry on overtime during this period -after reviving the fortunes of the Manchester brewers previously...
Fkin great player tho fast for a chubby wee fella
A RIGHT HOOK AND JUST A YELLOW CARD WTFF! HOW FOOTBALL HAS CHANGED
To be fair, most people threw punches at Norman Hunter at one time or another.
Notice Glen Keeley in 2nd clip
He made his Everton debut v Liverpool, & of course got sent off in 1st half an we lost 5-0,, I dont think he played for Everton again (thank goodness)
Correct. I was scanning the comments to see if anyone else had noticed. Well done. He never played for Everton again. Though he did captain Rovers to a full members cup win at Wembley in '87.
whatever you say about the fighting, they had alot more respect for the referee back then than they do now.
The first replica kit... The LUFC yellow away kit and a beauty .
Hard man Norman bites your legs unable to cope with a barrage of punches that knocked him on his arse - hard man?
Ah, the good old days of total confusion regarding if a player had been sent off, or not. Hence the introduction of the yellow and red card system.
Leeds perfected the art of intimidation of the ref and targeting players while rotating who committed the fouls. They also liked to get the ref "on side", allegedly.
They had learned well when falling foul of Johnny Foreigner in Europe.
They knew Keegan had a short fuse. Hunter lost the plot when he was wronged by Frannie Lee. Who knows who would have won in an all out fight. Lee was quick with feet and fists, for a little barrel.
And Hunter wasn't always brave, quite a fan of the rabbit punch, then retreating to his mob of a team for safety.
All of them dirty, even the keeper.
My Dad was behind the goal when Leeds played his lower league team in the cup. Keeper Gary Sprake spat in the striker's face. He said the crowd went nuts. "Punch the bloke, yes! SPIT IN HIS FACE??!!"
A few minutes later, after Sprake threw the ball out, he was seen out cold on the 6 yard line. Trainer had to be called on to revive him from what was a "mystery punch" from an unknown source.
God, I miss 70s football.
😂And all Giles gets for that right hook is a booking..........fabulous!
Franny Lee almost invented the high five 2 years before the yanks...!
I was there following the Whites, and, I remember it well, Norman clobbered Lee almost directly in front of the Leeds fans in the Popside, a knife had only just being thrown at Lee. And, the follow up was mainly Lee swinging into the air and not connecting whereas Hunter connected with Lee and it looked like he burst his lip. RIP Bites Yer Legs MOT
Lee destroyed Hunter! No bitten legs LOL
To be fair Frannie Lee could be felled by a light breeze if he was in the penalty area - in an era before everyday diving. After getting to the dressing room, Frannie Lee, bleeding heavily from the mouth, still had to be stopped from going back out to do to Norman Hunter what every other player from the other 94 league clubs wanted to do.
Also, now I rewatch the clip, it's odd. Charlie George was there apparently trying to calm things down and he had more than his fair share of bookings at the Arse, before moving to Derby. But here he was, the calm one.
Lee was way aheaqd of his time in terms of diving for penalties AND there's that famous clip from the 1970 League Cup Final v WBA where a WBA player simply does a "Go away" gesture with Lee instantly going down clutching his face like he'd been given a smack in the mouth by...er Norman Hunter XD I'm sure PL teams all show Franny Lee clips in their diving and cheating training sessions. Lessons from a master 50 years ahead of todays pale shadow diving imitations.
I've not done fuck all I've been hit twice!
You know things are getting really rowdy when even a notorious scrapper like Billy Bremner is trying to diffuse it😂
When football was good
Say what you like about Danny Baker. But he really is a normal football fan from a normal background.
He knows that a large proportion of football supporters at games like nothing better than seeing something completely out of the ordinary happening that they'll remember years later. Even if it's players brawling.
Rather than these middle class commentators and their completely ridiculous continuing belief in the Corinthian Spirit. Like we're still in the early 20th century and sportsmen are all 'gentlemen'.
I still don't like the fact that they won't show pitch invaders/streakers on the TV these days. Nothing better than a pitch invader giving the stewards and Old Bill a right old run around. Especially if the stewards and coppers slip and fall on their arse a few times in the chase.
oh sorry mr 'anti-establishment'.
Used to organise Millwall Away Coaches..
They don't make them like that anymore.
Franny had big Norman screaming like a girl. Well done franny.
Lee knew how to handle them hands!
that Leeds team under Revie were total animals (Revie was bent as a nine bob note)
Knob
meet in the car park after the game and finish it there!
Dave Mackay once dragged a forward who had the misfortune to get tangled up ,in his legs,round the pitch with him as he carried on playing:)
I still have the (in)famous picture on my computer - Dave Mackay grabbing a handful of Billie Bremners jersey, looking for all the world like things were about to get very, very bad - only for the referee to save Bremners life.
@@healingenso7923 So Bremner lived to wind others up:)
First attended match Millwall 5 Hull City 1 3rd September,1962
Tomorrow Millwall at home to Cardiff on....3rd September,2022
.....but where have the last 60 years gone ?
@@Isleofskye - I just think back to all the great games, trips to away games, managers Derby went through and the games I went to with my dad.
@@healingenso7923 Stil have memories of a large contingent of Derby fans at Millwall, under Cloughie, on 12th April 1969 in their Promotion year, singing thru' the game "Come On Derby!"..😀
Wow, your first match was just b4 I was born & I'm 60. good on yer Lion..@@Isleofskye
Danny Baker, the man who got Gazza pissd and out of the 98 World Cup squad.
Literal bollocks.
Get well soon Danny
Not a single colleague of Keegan went to support him. Smith a hard man my arse.
Love the indignity of Keegan, after kicking Bremner and going in hard on Giles, then moans when Giles gives him a right hook to the chops, dont try and be the hard man Kev when you're a midget.
Everyone loved Super Leeds !
Lee would have kicked the shit out of Norman Hunter. Leeds were a disgrace back then, should have had their medals stripped. Lee stormed into the dressing room and invited Hunter outside. Needless to say, he didn't accept...
Well done, just throw abuse out rather than make an actual comment..Leeds fan are we?
Nick Simpson Leeds were a great team, Lee was as much at fault.
Nick Simpson that's false and Lee said in an interview 20 odd years ago
Hardly surprising Norman didn't take up Franny Lees offer to sort it after he already put him down once...I watched a lot of football in the Seventies as a kid had no ideas Francis Lee could handle himself like that ....
Ahhhhh the days of fat footballers! When chucking a right hook only got you a stern talking to or a booking at the most…….
Hunter Lee, Bremner and don't forget CHOPPER Harris thes were HARD men no like today' puffs
ANTONY HOBBS I
Dave McKay
@@mcharrisment4765 The hardest if all...
Hunter/Lee/Bremner/Harris/Storey/Tommy Smith/Nobby Stiles/Jack Charlton..what an era :)
Tommy Smith at Liverpool but Dave Mckay the hardest of the lot no question.
After hearing how much toilet paper Hunter had used, whilst shitting himself, refusing to come out of the dressing room and face Frannie after the match, proved to be an eureka moment. On hanging up his gloves, sorry boots, Frannie moved into business manufacturing toilet rolls.
Midnight without You
You obviously didn't hear about the fight that did take place and Lee got marmalized. I am neutral about Lee and Hunter but I must admit it was always accepted Lee was the biggest cheat for diving in the league .
@@MrsBobby-gy5of - no-one's career was ended by Lee's diving.
Keegan went fitness first
Bremner went pub first
Leeds were animals, they beat they way to the top. Brian Clough was so right about them. Bremmer was the worst, a little red head with a chip on his shoulder because he got picked on at school.
Maggots
Oddly enough Archie Gemmell would have been a perfect replacement for Billy Bremner.
Bremners old mate Dave Mckay would have been even better but do not think would have played for Leeds. There is a great picture of Dave grabbing Bremner by the scruff of the neck when he was playing for Spurs in the 1960's.
@@topcat4759 - got both color and B&W versions of that saved on my hard drive.
oh come on leeds you better than that dont foul guyz
Leeds of the 70's - petulant, arrogant, downright nasty- Bremner, Giles, Hunter, Charlton, Jordan, the list goes on!!
Hagler hearns
Lee the biggest fall guy ever. Hunter never touched him.
Danny is very funny here, but for some reason I still can't stand him.
Hunter's assault on Lee, just out of shot, could have broken his leg. Filthy bastard Hunter. In a fair fight Lee would have poleaxed him.
That is why Norman is now referred to as The Late Norman Hunter...
The wrong bloke was sent off.............it should have been Danny Baker!
Black when it was a man's game
Any Rangers player throwing his shirt away in the manner of these two gets - I would expect his coach to batter him off the dressing room wall and wipe up the blood with it.
All that Leeds United team were thugs
WE ALL LOVE LEEDS
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@2puttking so ave u
So has he what? I have always wondered over the last 11 years...
One tear later and still wondering.
Danny feckin Baker, funny as pox.
Johnny Giles seems like such a gentleman you'd never expect him to punch someone out @ 3:50
InYourHeadChangedMan - very Professional- Johnny Giles, always sniping away at the ref and subtle fouls behind the refs' back- cheating little git!!
😂😂😂
Leeds were great back then went they " 🎵we all hate Leeds" so on, team we all loved to hate !
Remember how they used line up on Half way line Pre match at eac ground they visited + to wave to crowd 🤔😊😄 to inevitable chorus of boos , ha ha, then there was the silk numbers on socks too.
Sadly we Just don't these get characters in the modern game
I remember how long a walk it was from the railway station to Elland Road and how far a run it was in the opposite direction after Derby beat them there.
Norman Hunter attacked Francis Lee first but the better boxer was Francis Lee! Norman Hunter is a dirty player!
Danny Baker has been LOL-funny for - what? - 35 years?