When the Seer is too powerful...
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- Town of Salem 2 - Seer gameplay
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Town of Salem 2 has different factions in it.
The Coven: The Dreamweaver, Enchanter, Illusionist, Medusa, Conjuror, Jinx, Ritualist, Coven Leader, Hex Master, Witch, Necromancer, Poisoner, Potion Master, Voodoo Master and Wildling
The Town: Coroner, Investigator, Lookout, Psychic, Seer, Sheriff, Spy, Tracker, Deputy, Trickster, Veteran, Vigilante, Jailor, Mayor, Monarch, Prosecutor, Bodyguard, Cleric, Crusader, Trapper, Admirer and Amnesiac
The Neutral Apocalypse: Baker, Famine, Berserker, War, Plaguebearer, Pestilence, Soul Collector and Death
Neutral Evil: Executioner, Jester, Doomsayer, Pirate
Neutral Killing: Arsonist, Serial Killer, Shroud and WerewolfD
Earlier that day, i was in a 5 town match as the admirer and my last will said "pasta is better than *bread*". Someone disagreed and got lynched because of that and he was the last townie...
(No townies left at the end of day 3 with 8 people still alive lol, they were still fake claiming)
Thats fair
12:41 this reminds me of another game where everyone in a 2 house radius from me died n1
@kenpatchiramasama1076 me when i lie
Happens more often than you think in all evil games. Unless you're apart of an organised faction it's basically impossible to tell when you can just go buck wild. Not to mention that some particularly stupid ruling decisions means that risking it and being wrong will more likely than not just get you banned.
the "i always inno" is similar to the people who say "i never claim" basically an evil who gets a loophole for not trying as evil.
12 thought arso douse worked like pb infect💀
and so, in the blink of an eye, arsonist became the strongest role in the game
@@Underworlder5hahahaha
Isn't that how it worked back in tos 1?
@@xenonslashNuh, you only get passively doused if you visit the actual arso, in both games.
@@super7sayain305nah. Arso works same as pb in tos 1. What 12 wrong is: if you are not douse and visit the one who burn that night, you are not burn and douse.
The monarch was probably confusing PB infection and Arso douses
3:20 " I innod because I always inno"
this is begging the question
the conclusion is already included in the premise
In this case it's a gimmick though, like the people that used to show up named "Honest" that would never lie even if they were evil.
I don't think so. "I am doing X in this particular instance" is a different from "I always do X." The latter implies the former, but not vice versa. The logic here isn't cyclic.
Seers get hung really quick if there is an enchanter messing with the results and both people are town. Sometimes I get hung as seer anyway because the evil has a silver tongue.
The silver tongue in question: “He’s exe”
I think 12 may have confused Arsonist with the Plague Bearer. Both roles use a similar mechanic of spreading a status effect to other players, and both roles spread that status effect to players who visit them. But only plagued targets spread plague to other players, while doused targets do not spread douse.
It's possible that 12 mixed up arso douse and pb plague
5:38 Spy can’t see Knighted btw.
Thats valious information
Huh. Thats neat to know
Had a Baker game earlier, but somehow the chat was bugged, but another player claimed to be causing it. Any messages we placed vanished instantly, unless someone was on trial, or being jailed. We could see the history of everyone except the player that was causing it. Warning everyone now to be on the lookout for that player
no I need lookout on me please
This is jester imo, inno
Theyre probbably doing the emotespam thing but with the emote so large it doesnt even show
They do something to make their chat enormous so it sends other chat into the stratosphere
Yeah, that’s due to them upping their text size to absurd levels
4:36 , based on the exe will we can assume that 3 was the veteran bc Pipe was 4 and he checked 10 that night as well and lived, meaning 3 was the vet.
It seems like if you get 2 scum claims like day 1 and one gets randomly more pushed and ends up evil the other is likely from an evil faction, not 100% but a thing to watch out for.
There's always a possibility that one player is coven and the other is NE. Or even two NEs of different factions. You'd think it would be equal odds either way, but I feel like it happens more often where the first one hanged is NE and the second turns out to be coven (as in this game) or other NE and it happens less often where the first one hanged is coven and the second is NE. I feel like that shouldn't be true. Anyway, this creates the perception that if the first one hanged is NE then it's more likely the other is coven, whereas if the first one hanged is coven then the other is probably town.
That said, perhaps the source of this bias comes down to if the Seer checks two NEs, they're more likely to come up as enemies, while if they check two coven, then they'll come up as friends. So _if_ they come up as enemies, and _if_ the first one hanged is NE, then there is a slightly higher chance the other one is coven or other NE.
@@Greywander87 the reason you tend to get the NE when comparing a NE and a Cov is because that is the case that makes two bad wills most likley, and if both players have bad wills, the one that hangs is the one that gets the most votes on them, and the three other coven players are going to go for the NE.
Arso douse spreading from doused players is a mechanic in Bloxton Mystery, it has NEVER been in the actual game that Monarch is on somethin
I dont even play this game or heard of it but entertained enough to binge your recent videos! Thanks for the daily uploads for a fun looking game!
Dude I got hanged as ww for saying seer sucked and 7 people who were seer voted me out…
7 seers in a game is WILD.
This happend to e once, and everyone thought i was fake.
I had a match as Baker where I was gotten by the unlucky 1 and 15 check in which we showed as enemies, and they didn't believe my fakeclaim.
15 was a werewolf. I would have been hanged no matter what hahah
No wonder the other seer had to be knocked out n1. They had to give evils a chance.
Btw, they should have allowed retributionist to use a seer since they allowed the necromancer to use a witch. It might make the role more useful. But what do I know about balance?
I mean, you CAN use other TIs so... (I wanna see how much time I can claim amne tracker as ret without PM checking me)
He mightve played a similar game called mafia where an optional setting is for arso to rampage on the people they ignite.
7 played that match terribly, giving crappy excuses to act evil without trying to seem evil, and then called everyone stupid when they were gonna hang him (which they ended up not because Pipe and the other veteran know he can't just ignite them immediately) saying that only 3 knew how it works 😭people like that grind my gears
Day 27 of tallying skin usage in vids (I have to start going to school tmr :( hopefully I can still maintain this)
Artemys: 23
Avery: 15
Blyte variant: 45
Bridget variant: 27
Brokk variant: 23
Catherine: 29
Chef: 6
Davey: 30
Deodat variant: 33
Firebug: 19
Francisco: 32
Gerald variant: 35
Giles: 35
Glinda: 35
Grave Digger: 15
Grim variant: 3
Headless Horseman 'variant': 24
John: 42
Jack: 35
Jackie 'variant': 44
Jekyll variant: 15
Kande 'variant': 16
Krampus 'variant': 13
Liric: 34
Lupin variant: 29
Macy variant: 22
Mary variant: 40
Martha 'variant': 19
Nevermore: 10
Nikki variant: 38
Petra: 8
Robert: 12
Rosemary 'variant': 17
Sabrina: 31
Samuel 'variant': 26
Shadow Wolf: 2
Shinrin 'variant': 10
Tomas: 10
Van Hellsing: 12
Vladimir: 16
13:22 Also lol at 7 “3 is the only smart townie”
Imagine 3 had died early on and 12 still bickered. Town def woulda lost
Easier for 1 to not miss the post if you ping with @1 @15 instead of just 1 15. ^^ Especially important on TI to use pings.
I still don't understand why people don't check a disconnected person with a person still in as Seer. It gives you more information to work with since if the disconnected person is town, and you have enemies, the other person is almost certainly evil (almost because enchanter but it is very rare).
I've done that and people flame you hard. Call you a garbage player etc. Don't know why since I agree with you totally.
Getting information on two players is way better than having a chance of confirming one player is evil/town.
Usually not recommended because getting info on two players is considered more valuable than just one
I see the point made of it providing info for less people, which is true, it's also easy to fake unless tracked, and if that other player dies you were useless unless med; however, if you are somehow confirmed town, and it's not like the first few nights, it could be worth it trying to confirm someone's allegiance with a dc'd.
This is likely better done by going on a hard/soft confirmed player, since it gives similar info, but that has problems too like jinx or rampage attacks or crus, and you still get the 1f1 between them if they were fake confirmed.
Basically, it's on average better to not do it, but it can definitely be done if you have a little luck and skill, especially depending on where you are in the game and who is confirmed/not.
In theory, it's probably optimal, but in practice, DCs are almost always evil, so you're typically not gaining any information from doing so.
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spoiler alert: seer he survives until the end of the game and it’s a town victory
first time I get here so early, thanks for the vid, will enjoy it over a nice glass of chocolate milk
GG Great video as always :)
werewolf is a thing in ToS2? isnt the Berz just the same thing?
Technically no. The WW has constant rampage and tracker ability. Meanwhile Berz is a game of laying low for 3 days before you get powerful. Theyre similar though
WW isn't unique in ToS2 as well
bers is more like jugg
Beyond what others have said, Bers is also part of team Neutral Apocalypse, so they can have benefits of a team and night chat. The Bers/SC combo is basically autowin for NA, since it means SC goes off three days early.
12 was far too cocky for someone who doesn't know how arso worked.
Honestly, calling out people for saying things like "I always Inno" just reinforces the fact that this game has way too many metas that ruin the spirit of deceptive games. It's like how you can "misclick" in poker by accidentally overbetting the pot. It's almost like lying is a part of the game and the chaos lying injects should be an integral part of deception games
Lying can get you out of a lot. However, this is also a social deduction game, where not fitting in with townies makes you sus.
Such as being the only one to inno
That's how plague bearer worked, not arso
I think 12 got arso and pb mixed up
Did they remove mafia from the game?
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Wow Pipton, rude of you to lie like that. Seer is the *second best TI in ToS.
The *real* best TI is Jester. Smh my head.
no we all know jester is best ti stop lying to us pipton
3:40 but he didn't even say it that's his entire character name
Like Honest and such but more lame/bad.
Oh the misery
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Oui
they mixed arso with pb smh
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I guessed 7 as arso just from that snarky pompous death note alone
Why was 12 talking?
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