Hey Charlie - glad the lid's still working. Mine is abandoned in the garden (as is the hot-tub). First loose tenon I've seen in PIR 😁. Made my week getting a shout-out in the original video. Great update and great way to extend the existing lid.
Thanks mate. Yes life moves on doesn't it. Mine was in a sorry state too before I renovated it. You're welcome. Always love to big up people who provide inspiration. There are so much RUclipsrs who simply take ideas and pass them off as their own. Seems pointless to me and deeply annoying. 👊
You could also make a wooden cladded studwork surround for the whole tub and fill with PIR insulation with a insulated removable wooden cover. Which. Would be very efficient.
Hi Charlie. Don’t get to ( deflated) by negative comments , your channel has always been interesting and informative . And when you revisit a topic , that really puts a total different spin on a particular subject . A case in point is this type of hot tub that I have often dismissed as as not worth considering , yet you have proved with the right approach they can be a good alternative to the very expensive alternative . Kind regards as always 👍
Great to hear from you and thank you so much for that. Yes, who knew one of these tubs would last this long and a lot of people say the problem with the big permanent ones is they're never kept very clean. This is easy to clean and keep the ph levels right and reasonably cheap to run. 👌
@@CharlieDIYte Thanks. It isn't a big amount but Google Opinions (short surveys) allows you to build up credit that can be used to make payments to RUclips channels. (Tip for any other viewers who want to help support the channel and doesn't cost them anything to do.) Always good content here.
I haven't had an issue with the inflatable lid, but think it's only a matter of time. But I plan on doing exactly what you have done and save a few pennies on the heating
Get yourself a. Roll of gapotape for the edges. It will sort the heatloss easily. We are in the process of using some for a project here. Any left over large enough for you, and IL post to you.
How about covering your chamfered PIR sheet in fibreglass and epoxy, Charlie? You're effectively building a hot tub shaped surf board! It would be straightforward enough to do and long lasting, and you'd get to keep the edge profile that you want. Epoxy would be more expensive than polyester resins, but less smelly to work with, though you'd still need to take appropriate H&S precautions. Depending on what you were to use, epoxy may not be UV stable either, so you'd need to have a solution for that - either a UV stable top coat, or paint. I'd consider using a couple of layers of 200 gsm plain weave glass all around. It's drape-able and if you roller on the epoxy and let it become slightly tacky before applying the cloth you'd keep the profile nicely. East Coast Fibreglass Supplies and Easy Composites are both great companies to use (I have no connection with them - just purchased from both on a number of occasions).
I know. I won't be running it through the winter this year - had it going at a permanent 40 degrees the first year I had it - but a lot of people will which is why hopefully the video will come in useful.
wouldn't polystyrene have been better? cheaper too and maybe covered in builders membrane thats glued on under vacuum using a shop vac. might try it myself...
Hey Charlie, Since you were enlarging the cover, why not have enlarged it enough to add (re - add) the chamfered edge? I know you would need to re-tape the edge with foil tape.😊
Yes I should probably have done that Tony. I was after a quick fix though to get the tub up and running for the kids. The whole fix took one afternoon. Someone has suggested gapotape around the edge which I think is a genius idea. I'll probably do that next. 👊
I built a wooden structure around mine 100mm pir all round the base is the key one tho, same type of lid but soon i will be making a fixed split version similar to ones on proper hot tubs. Temps are great saves loads turning it off at night only loses 2-3 degrees. Defo key is the base pir
I had a PIR base under mine. It's a good point, but it knackered the decking as the foil stuck to it and the deck was starting to rot but luckily I got to it in time. Would be very different though now I've done the roof. 👌👊
Mine is directly onto slabs no raised deck, but yes in your case I would see it being a problem. Me personally I would cut the deck around the tub and sink it onto the ground below but obviously that would change the deck structure and is personal preference. As for my top idea to have it fold.. light weight c-stud I'm sure I can make a frame from it to support the PIR while giving a place to hinge from? When I get around to it maybe I'll share a video 😂
I build a dome shed out of PIR! - Its a new startup we are trying; I would love for some people to chat to about it! - XPS is used for tile backerboard but yes it never comes in sheets big enough to do much more than than that. - PIR can get wet, a bit as long as it gets dried out now and then; I bought a pallet of 200mm PIR to build the shed and it had been left out in the rain for quite a while - It was only wet about 2mm down so basically there is no capilary action its open cell to a point - If you are joining PIR/PUR the best thing to use is Sticky PU, also quite water resitant, its made to be used on plasterboard for dampish walls - like the house wall when doing a conservatory. It works really well on the actual foam even though its mostly used on the foil. Something about the material being basically the same, like concrete and mortar. - its a great super workable material. I liked your lid alot, think how hard it would be to make that shape out of anything else!>
Thanks for sharing. Yes I used adhesive foam for that mod in the vid. Good luck with the dome. Sounds interesting. Post a link here if you've got a website up and running on it.
I have a square tub and usually just take it down in winter, summer have it out and keep it semi warm and when we want to use it heat it, i just dont think we would use ours in the middle of winter so seems pointless keeping it hot, but i do like the idea of a solid lid, mine is just a cover no inflatable part so it sags in the middle when its rained on, and ovbs even in summer here in england the extra insulation would be a great addition as the temp just seems to swing massivlly weekt o week even in the middle of summer
Yes you'll lose so much heat from yours. It's a good point though. I don't think I'll run ours through the winter. We did in lockdown but electricity was much cheaper back then. 👊
Hey Charlie - glad the lid's still working. Mine is abandoned in the garden (as is the hot-tub). First loose tenon I've seen in PIR 😁. Made my week getting a shout-out in the original video. Great update and great way to extend the existing lid.
Thanks mate. Yes life moves on doesn't it. Mine was in a sorry state too before I renovated it. You're welcome. Always love to big up people who provide inspiration. There are so much RUclipsrs who simply take ideas and pass them off as their own. Seems pointless to me and deeply annoying. 👊
You could also make a wooden cladded studwork surround for the whole tub and fill with PIR insulation with a insulated removable wooden cover. Which. Would be very efficient.
Yes that would work well 👌👊
Hi Charlie. Don’t get to ( deflated) by negative comments , your channel has always been interesting and informative . And when you revisit a topic , that really puts a total different spin on a particular subject . A case in point is this type of hot tub that I have often dismissed as as not worth considering , yet you have proved with the right approach they can be a good alternative to the very expensive alternative . Kind regards as always 👍
Great to hear from you and thank you so much for that. Yes, who knew one of these tubs would last this long and a lot of people say the problem with the big permanent ones is they're never kept very clean. This is easy to clean and keep the ph levels right and reasonably cheap to run. 👌
So glad you did this update
Thanks - glad you found it useful 👊
Thanks!
Thanks Keith, really appreciate that. Good luck with sorting yours out. 🤞👊
@@CharlieDIYte Thanks. It isn't a big amount but Google Opinions (short surveys) allows you to build up credit that can be used to make payments to RUclips channels. (Tip for any other viewers who want to help support the channel and doesn't cost them anything to do.) Always good content here.
I haven't had an issue with the inflatable lid, but think it's only a matter of time. But I plan on doing exactly what you have done and save a few pennies on the heating
You won't regret it David. 👍
Great vid 🎉
Thanks Alec 👊
Get yourself a. Roll of gapotape for the edges. It will sort the heatloss easily. We are in the process of using some for a project here. Any left over large enough for you, and IL post to you.
Gapotape - why didn't I think of that! 👌
How about covering your chamfered PIR sheet in fibreglass and epoxy, Charlie? You're effectively building a hot tub shaped surf board! It would be straightforward enough to do and long lasting, and you'd get to keep the edge profile that you want. Epoxy would be more expensive than polyester resins, but less smelly to work with, though you'd still need to take appropriate H&S precautions. Depending on what you were to use, epoxy may not be UV stable either, so you'd need to have a solution for that - either a UV stable top coat, or paint. I'd consider using a couple of layers of 200 gsm plain weave glass all around. It's drape-able and if you roller on the epoxy and let it become slightly tacky before applying the cloth you'd keep the profile nicely.
East Coast Fibreglass Supplies and Easy Composites are both great companies to use (I have no connection with them - just purchased from both on a number of occasions).
Thanks Stephen. Amazing bit of advice there and I appreciate the recommendations. I'll keep that in mind for the next upgrade 👌👊
Theres me putting on a woolly hat this morning thinking its started getting colder now, now watching someone still wanted to use a hottub
I know. I won't be running it through the winter this year - had it going at a permanent 40 degrees the first year I had it - but a lot of people will which is why hopefully the video will come in useful.
wouldn't polystyrene have been better? cheaper too and maybe covered in builders membrane thats glued on under vacuum using a shop vac. might try it myself...
Possibly, yes. You could cover it in that floor protector.
Hey Charlie, Since you were enlarging the cover, why not have enlarged it enough to add (re - add) the chamfered edge? I know you would need to re-tape the edge with foil tape.😊
Yes I should probably have done that Tony. I was after a quick fix though to get the tub up and running for the kids. The whole fix took one afternoon. Someone has suggested gapotape around the edge which I think is a genius idea. I'll probably do that next. 👊
Cover it, in Moo Goo??
I built a wooden structure around mine 100mm pir all round the base is the key one tho, same type of lid but soon i will be making a fixed split version similar to ones on proper hot tubs.
Temps are great saves loads turning it off at night only loses 2-3 degrees.
Defo key is the base pir
I had a PIR base under mine. It's a good point, but it knackered the decking as the foil stuck to it and the deck was starting to rot but luckily I got to it in time. Would be very different though now I've done the roof. 👌👊
Mine is directly onto slabs no raised deck, but yes in your case I would see it being a problem. Me personally I would cut the deck around the tub and sink it onto the ground below but obviously that would change the deck structure and is personal preference.
As for my top idea to have it fold.. light weight c-stud I'm sure I can make a frame from it to support the PIR while giving a place to hinge from?
When I get around to it maybe I'll share a video 😂
Look at this guy with his expensive hot tub.
Stop it 🤣
I build a dome shed out of PIR! - Its a new startup we are trying; I would love for some people to chat to about it!
- XPS is used for tile backerboard but yes it never comes in sheets big enough to do much more than than that.
- PIR can get wet, a bit as long as it gets dried out now and then; I bought a pallet of 200mm PIR to build the shed and it had been left out in the rain for quite a while - It was only wet about 2mm down so basically there is no capilary action its open cell to a point
- If you are joining PIR/PUR the best thing to use is Sticky PU, also quite water resitant, its made to be used on plasterboard for dampish walls - like the house wall when doing a conservatory. It works really well on the actual foam even though its mostly used on the foil. Something about the material being basically the same, like concrete and mortar.
- its a great super workable material. I liked your lid alot, think how hard it would be to make that shape out of anything else!>
Thanks for sharing. Yes I used adhesive foam for that mod in the vid. Good luck with the dome. Sounds interesting. Post a link here if you've got a website up and running on it.
Nooice!
Thanks mate. Good to hear from you 👊
I have a square tub and usually just take it down in winter, summer have it out and keep it semi warm and when we want to use it heat it, i just dont think we would use ours in the middle of winter so seems pointless keeping it hot, but i do like the idea of a solid lid, mine is just a cover no inflatable part so it sags in the middle when its rained on, and ovbs even in summer here in england the extra insulation would be a great addition as the temp just seems to swing massivlly weekt o week even in the middle of summer
Yes you'll lose so much heat from yours. It's a good point though. I don't think I'll run ours through the winter. We did in lockdown but electricity was much cheaper back then. 👊