A Closer Look: Mrs. Astor’s Gilded Age Double Mansion | Cultured Elegance
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- Опубликовано: 26 мар 2023
- A Closer Look: Mrs. Astors Gilded Age Double Mansion | Cultured Elegance
In this video, we will explore inside Mrs. Astors double mansion with John Jacob Astor the fourth. Mrs. Astor reigned as the queen of New York society. Together let’s back in time as we tour Lina Astor’s mansion and uncover its tragic fate.
Location: Manhattan, New York
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Imagine how much more interesting our cities would be if they hadn`t senselessly torn down these beautiful old houses in lieu of the ugly glass, concrete and steel boxes they put in place of them.
Exactly!!!!! It’s so hideous now
@@CulturedElegance sometimes it’s not box houses or cramped box buildings. Many historical beautiful mansions destroyed to make way for a parking lot.
Incredible wealth! I can't imagine this mansion being torn down.
Isn’t it sad!!
The Americans whilst admiring our European heritage has demolished and neglected so much of it's own. These houses were built to very high specs with the best materials throughout, Cuban Mahogany and other exotic woods, rare marbles and mosaics, carvings and stained glass only to be destroyed to build bigger and bigger. So sad that not more was recorded or even respected. It is an ongoing thing too with many beautiful buildings being neglected.
Sad there was such senseless destruction of this magnificent architectural treasure!!
I completely agree!! It’s so sad 😭
That's the American Way. Tear it down and put up a parking lot.
Destruction?? Bloody hell. It’s what the extinction of a species, for sale, built. Obscene wealth: ha, such an apropos description.
@@kerry8880
Yes, because heavens forbid it be turned into a cultural establishment, library, school, etc. What do you think replaced it, and how much did it help the downtrodden? Moreover; some things are appreciated, also, for attributes beyond mere utility. Arguments like this would relegate people to sterile pods, even of they should succeed enough to have a beautiful building erected for themselves.
Would you tear down the Taj Mahal?
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both the exterior and especially the interior were breathtaking.
What a wonderful commentary! I noticed the renovated entrance hall bore quite a likeness to the Palm Court (Winter Garden) that was both located in the Waldorf-Astoria and was extremely fashionable at the time. I can also understand the removal of the staircase given what happened on it. Again, wonderful video!
Thank you so much!!! Yes excellent point!! Indeed tragic what happened on the staircase!!
Absolutely a masterpiece of architecture! Amazingly beautiful! Congratulations!
Thank you!! so glad you enjoyed!!
Wow, amazing artistry in that ballroom.
Indeed!!!🤩🤩
WHERE were those modern photos of some of the rooms taken? Those rooms have obviously been set up again in a museum somewhere, but where?? I had no idea they'd been saved.
They are at the art gallery of the Ringling Museum!! Mr. Ringling purchased both the library and the salon from John Jacob Astor’s side but it is said that he also purchased all of the paintings in Mrs. Astor’s ballroom but I don’t know where they are 🤔
@@CulturedElegance ah-hah! Thanks. I was able to google them up.
@@CulturedElegance Having been through the Ringling Museum, I must have seen these rooms, but didn't know what they were.
I love the colored pictures😍
Dining room shocking for such a large mansion. Table looks like it holds 6 at the most.
Why would someone buy this amazing mansion just to tear it down?! Whatever the built in it's place is cursed!
5th Ave all along the park from Central Park South upwards was full of these mansions in the Gilded Age period. Most were torn down in the 1920's and 1930's for the grand apartment buildings along 5th which exist now. The apartments are equally opulent in a more modern way, with 30 foot living rooms, private elevators, entrances, etc. The truth is there was no need or desire to live in such large mansions, and the upkeep and staff required to maintain them became cost-prohibitive, even for the rich families, especially in the post-Depression era. By that point, the idea of living in a large city apartment in New York became acceptable even for the uber-rich, so you have the building of all the large Art Deco period apartments along Central Park West and Riverside Dr on the upper West Side, and 5th on the east side. The Dakota building on CPW and 72nd Street began the mental switch for the wealthy, with its original 20+ room apartments (most of which are now chopped up into smaller units.)
@@jrthiker9908I would argue 998 fifth was the building that started the transition
The UWS buildings were usually for the less wealthy and true upper class society resided mostly on the UES
@@jrthiker9908all the original floor plans for the Dakota is online. Interesting to see what it was-which were large “homes” complete with maid rooms etc.
These buildings are much older than we think.
Very informative. Thank you.
Thank you for watching!! What would you like to see next??
@@CulturedElegance Either SAn Marino (Huntington) or Isabella Stewart Gardner.
Thank you!! Will do!
You mentioned an auction book and I would love to know where you can get a copy or reprint? Thank you for such wonderful videos 😊
so, where is part 3?
Am I the only one here who finds this kind of excess utterly grotesque? And I mean from an aesthetic standpoint, not from any judgement of the financial outlay required to create it.
I agree.
You are not the only one!
I’d like to think that this is a exhibition of the best of human craftsmanship
Ugly
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Vincent! Why did you sell the estate?? Poor judgment, sir!
There is such a difference between the taste and style of Mrs. Astor and John Jacob Aster! Her taste was so over the top ostentatiously Victorian, with every little pricey possession out on display. I felt it was more like a museum than a house. John Jacob's style was still luxurious, but elegant and more Edwardian, with far less frippery out and upon every bit of wall space. I wish the pictures were in color, but alas!
Indeed!! Yes they had very different taste! Very well said!!
why demolishing his beautiful hotel it's a sin! Almost looks like they hated this family to replace his hotelwith their tower, there was plenty of space elsewhere, cheap buildings all around that neighborhood...
I agree!! Good point!!
Built for another age yes but was it still a massive loss to the country and the world yes a huge cultural loss
I agree!! Well said
When a plot location is more important than they demolish all old and build larger( higher) and more modern.
Très intéressant et instructif!Very interesting and instructive!We have the impression to be in a Hôtel particulier in Paris.It's similar.The difference is usually the age of the building, often 17th or 18th century in Paris.19th century also possible.All the furniture remained in the mansion?
Thank you! And How fascinating! Before it was torn down they sold all of the furniture to various buyers
@@CulturedElegance Thanks for your response!Do you know how many mansions like this, remain in NYC?Next tuesday evening, i will attend to a conversation with the world famous designer, Mr.J.Garcia.He will talk about his fabulous château du Champ de Bataille, in Normandy.Gorgeous!I have visited.Take a look and you wont't be disappointed.
While they lived in such a place there were soooo many people living in shacks with no comfort at all.
Those interiors are beyond gaudy.
What are some interiors that you like
Victorian decoration was ugly and tasteless.
And uncomfortable looking. And chairs just randomly in a huge room without any design…I think these rooms were horribly decorated.
How many square feet in total did the double mansion have?
Probably 35000-40000
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Her custom of inviting a guest with them showing up on time and then keeping them waiting till SHE was ready was exceedingly rude. It's counter to American values, sensibilities and etiquette to do that. It's an indication that the gilded age lifestyle was phony and meaningless. I see new money couples still doing this today. IF a visitor comes over uninvited and let in then it is OK to keep them waiting. Having a barely English speaking maid tell the scheduled repairman, plumber, electrician, "She no here right now" because you're still in a robe and slippers is unforgivable. Then as the locksmith was leaving opening a window and shouting "Who are you again?". LOL. I saw this happen with my own eyes. I hated that broad. She put on airs but she didn't fool me. Trishy trashy trash trash.
Did the Astor’s have children? Sounds like they designed the house around their separate lives.
I don't think I can stand looking at such excess. If it were re-purposed as a children's home or hospital, that's one remedy. But just look at the cringe worthy wealth!
French revival. Imbalanced. Franciscan baroque.
such disgusting greed and opulence for one person - thank god for socialist insurrection! That art collection should belong to everyone.
uuuuhhhhhh YEAH.. right.........
@@Nunofurdambiznez well? what's your point? Doesn't this level of wealth squandered on one undeserving person kind of disgust you?
@@sibionic nope not at all if you have the means it’s life you sound like a socialist democrat lol
@@sibionic So what's your alternative then...
@@nonegone7170seizure of the art collection and furniture for the public good and greater equality for all!
while we all know these mansions were magnificient, they were also for their time. In our day and age, we don't use "reception rooms", "ballrooms", so many "guest rooms", "servants rooms", his and her bedrooms...etc. Were ballrooms really that necessary? We use a catering hall, lol
It seems they had so many room that were totally un-necessary. A reception room? really? None the less, it was a shame they were all torn down and that part of history erased. The decor to me, was grotesque, and completely over done times times over. They really did like to flaunt their wealth. Then property tax came along, factory jobs came and domestic jobs were not appealing anymore.....
Your mistake is looking at these mansions through the lens of presentism. Reception rooms were used at a time when social exchange and etiquette were worlds away from our age, where such notions have either been relegated to extinction or barely exist. Our modern idea of transparent, open living spaces, would have struck these people as odd, mean, and on the cheap. People of means were expected to live accordingly, and so they grandly did. Society, was more stratified, and people dressed, spoke, and lived in dwellings that reflected this. Unlike today, where the moneyed class, dress, speak, as if they're ranked amongst the lower classes. In an age where everything has been whittled down to the lowest denoniminator, and the notion of class is no longer understood, nor pursued, because of phoney egalitarianism, the ideal of grand living has been discarded and forgotten.
@@LUIS-ox1bv The first line of my response was: "they were also for their time." meaning those rooms we did not use, need or require, were used, needed and required for that time era.
@@LUIS-ox1bv what a load of snobbish, reactionary claptrap.