The Inevitable Downfall Of American Horror Story
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Season 1 of American Horror Story quickly became one of the most talked about shows on TV. It developed a cult following, and fans everywhere were ecstatic to see what Ryan Murphy had in store for future installments of American Horror Story. Though as more seasons would come out, fans became less and less intrigued by Ryan Murphys attempts at reinventing the wheel. American Horror Story has now been on the air for 12 seasons, and it's all but disappeared from the cultural zeitgeist. So what exactly happened to American Horror Story, and can Ryan Murphy ever recapture that initial flame?
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We went from Evan Peters and Jessica Lange killing it every season to Emma Roberts and Kim Kardashian’s terrible wooden performances. What a joke
When did Jessica Lange and Evan Peters leave?
@@thallus23 Lange left after Freakshow and Evan’s last one was Double Feature
That’s your opinion but leave Emma out of this. Kim actually respected the work & tried. Let’s not hate on women plz
@@dv.c3700 LOL dude shut the hell up. They both suck and none of them are gonna fuck you
@@dv.c3700 neither of those planks of wood are gonna sleep with you you tool 😂. And to reiterate they both suck
As soon as Jessica Lange was out it was over
She's the best!
I was genuinely so upset to find she wasn't coming back. Same with the more recent departure of Evan Peters and Sarah Paulson. The show was already done, but without those two there's no hope.
@@fssstyuniaf 100%! Sarah Paulson, Evan Peters and Lily Rabe were the backbone of the show after Lange's departure (there were obviously other great supporting actors), so the show might as well be called something else at this point
PRECISELY!!
Hotel was pretty good imo
No offense when you add random famous people it just spells failure
Who can say!
I agree 100%. It just reeks of desperation.
when they announced nph i was disappointed, the show prior felt kinda, niche? if that makes sense. i loved season 1-2 but the final for me was freakshow. i tried hotel but ended up just dropping it midway
So, lady Gaga, Angela Bassett and Cathy Bates spells failure? Or are you just talking Kim k? Your acting career has to start somewhere
@@overcomingwithinhe's not that big, didn't play a big part and was more of a cameo. I'm sure he's flattered by you seeing him as that powerful
For me it was the bad endings to almost every season after 1. They ran into the Marvel problem. They had great setups, but then they'd try too hard to trick the audience into not seeing the ending coming. A season would start so well, but the ending would squander the whole premise just so it wouldn't be what the audience expects. One thing I can't stand is writing poorly on purpose just to surprise your audience. I liked the Freak Show season, though I don't remember the ending. I liked the Hotel season, though I don't remember the ending. But I eventually gave up on the show because they had so many trash endings.
Agree. The first few seasons were good at the start, they would have a good premise, but the creators just don't know how to end the stories in a strong and coherent way
Well iirc didn't Asylum, Freakshow and Hotel all pretty much end the same? With basically "and then everyone dies, the end!"
BECAUSE. MURPHY. SUCKS. AS. A. WRITER. . . PERIOD.
Even season 1 fell apart at the end. The writers never knew how to close and eventually they couldnt even open.
Finally someone who actually has been paying attention. 😭 The was indeed even from season 1 had a terrible track record of strong build up and no follow through. It became a joke that even other shows started mocking them over it. 🤣 I remember watching 2 Broke Girls the other week and they said this one character is more messy and "more unplanned than a season of AHS"
The only scary thing about american horror story is the intros
lol, true. Our next video!
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The teasers as well.
@@rosamariabest6069 they get more "erotic" instead of scary and feel more like model photoshoots but I think thats inetional
The first one was scary though, but after that yea it lost it
Kim Kardashian was the nail in the coffin
Exactly! She can't act, but that's only part of the problem. Her ″brand″ supercedes anything she does. She would have to be a Tatiana Maslany level actress to make us forget that's she's fuckin Kim Kardashian. People like her only work when they cameo playing exaggerated versions of themselves.
The first season was self-contained, actually had a legit ending and closure. Ending seasons with voiceovers and montages gets old, and some later seasons didn't really have an ending at all. They just stopped LOL
I met Jessica Lange at Anthropologie in New Orleans back in 2014 when AHS was at its peak. She was the most elegant person I’ve ever met. Extremely cordial. I’ve loved her since Big Fish.
Ryan Murphy is just completely incapable of writing a satisfying ending and knowing *where* to end.
Yet, season 2 ending was really good
@@edamix3184nope season 2’a ending was not good. The whole alien subplot meant nothing at all. The reported is a Mary Sue and having a child meant nothing. The whole opening with killing the two kids was pointless.
Like, the ending of season 2 was not good at all
@BabyGirlTiny season 2 was my least favorite season. They try to put to much in and a lot of it goes no where.
I gave up on AHS for good with Cults. I thought it had real potential, especially trying to frame politics as mass psychosis, but it kept twisting for the sake of twists. Apocalypse was just nuts; it's the end of the world, no wait it's witchcraft, no wait it's time travel and meta. It just felt like they couldn't decide on a single story, and somehow expected the audience to be wowed by quantity over quality.
Honestly that's why i loved apocalypse it was so messy and all over the place
Yeah apocalypse ruined it for me. It’s was dumb. If they just stuck with the end of the world idea, it would’ve done good. I was so into it the first episode, in fact I was excited, I love post apocalyptic movies.
Then the witches came along, and I lost interest in the entire show.
The last season I saw was Freak Show. By that point, I accepted that uninteresting side plots and totally forgetting/giving disappointing conclusions to others were just part of the formula, and I was tired of it.
In my opinion some of the seasons after freak show are pretty good but some are just so bad
me too, by that point the essence was lost, i tried the first episode of hotel but couldn't finish it
Glee was arguably much creepier than american horror story
Lot of messed up and dead cast members. Very sad.
AHS will always have 3-5 good episodes now, at the beginning of the season. Then it goes completely off the rails around the halfway point.
I could enjoy most of the seasons. Roanoke got me into it. They were enjoyable. But the outright insane and poor writing of the antichrist season just put me off for life. It was insulting
Was that Kim K in the last season?! Wow just from that clip I can tell she was an awful actor. Lady Gaga wasn’t an actor but the difference is that L.G. is a creative and an entertainer whereas Kim is an opportunist and has a background in nothing except being born into lots of $.
Lady Gaga went to Juliard and studied acting
@@juliannehannes11 well that explains a lot then.
Started so strong and just dipped in quality. It's now a "look at all the famous people we got in our show" now. Fuck the scares fuck the story let's just pander to the "influencer" crowd.
That's way too exagerrated but okay
My biggest issues after Asylum is they always have good concepts and themes but absolute terrible execution and plot point goes nowhere, hence I think teaser is better than the whole show. It has some moments and engaging but the shows always style over substance, and focus on drama more than horror. I quit after Apocalypse due to terrible plots and never look back.
I know JJ Abrams and Zack Snyder are getting flack for great concept, start strong but terrible execution and disappointment ends (and deserve it so; also I like Lost ending even Abrams is not Lost showrunner), but Ryan Murphy is the king of this, especially if you watch Glee and Nip/Tuck. I never finished all his series because they just a drunken stumble to the finish line that started off strong. Like Abrams, he's very good at coming up with fascinating concepts. But the man can't continue a story for long to save his life, though. I always hope that his shows turn out better than they actually do. It's always a strong foot forward then a stumble.
The only things that saved the show is phenomenon acting (Sarah Paulson, Lily Rabe, Jessica Lange, Evan Peters, Kathy Bates, Frances Conroy, etc.), but since everyone move from next big things and acting quality is downhill so I don't care anymore.
Season 1: Great
Season 2: LITERAL PERFECTION
Aside from the 1st season, every other felt like they were literally writing it week to week with no idea where they wanted the story to actually go.
What went wrong? The fact that the scripts put 100 different under subplots together in the same storyline making a narrative mess. The fact that for a horror show, the series has no suspense, dread and no actual scares, it just throws scenes at you and when it doesn't know what to do, it slashes someone's throat out of nowhere. And it doesn't help that a lot of times characters who die come back as ghosts and keep appearing and being developed in the plot. (Seriously, some of the dead folks have more character depth than the living) and deaths have no stake at all in the show. The ones who are not brought back, keep going as ghosts, ghosts who smoke, drink, have sex and etc. Being dead in AHS is not the worse, but the best thing that could happen to a character, honestly. Where's the horror in that?
I used to love this show.
It used to be sooooo good
Haven't watched any of the seasons since 1984, which I think was one of their better seasons. The ending to 1984 was probably the closest to a happy ending we could get and it felt like the end of AHS to me honestly
I went from seriously loving this show to not being able to stand it
Roanoke WAS terrifying. It's the ONLY season that actually scared me.
care to explain what elements caused you to come to that conclusion
S1 was so good it spawned 10 bad seasons in it's wake.
yeah the first season is the best, definitely
S1 was great, I liked S2 but it wasn't nearly as good. I couldn't stand any of the rest.
There were things to like about seasons 2 & 3, but the ONLY genuinely good season was 1. Which is so laughable
You genuinely think Asylum, Coven, Freak Show & Hotel are bad seasons? Your taste is terrible 💀 most AHS seasons are great.
@@Yousifdiyab 🤢🤮
AHS turned into a Delicate Freakshow of stories but still has an Asylum of Cult following fans that would gladly check their Coven into a Hotel Murder House in Roanoke to enjoy the Apocalypse. Another scary good Double Feature from Nerdstalgic.
Later seasons really needed someone to tell Ryan Murphy no.
We as a society need to stop Ryan Murphy
he should only be allowed to do one or two seasons of his shows
@@HarlequinHeart16 after him and the worst Dahmer show/movie I've ever seen, I question everything he touches now. I used to really enjoy him up till then. Lol
Apocalypse was a complete trainwreck. I was hopeful at first, but then the whole cast was killed off only to bring back the same actors for previous characters. Some even had 3 parts. It was so hard to stay interested.
People sleep on Asylum
It’s my fave 😎
I think that was the one that won the most awards.
It's the most horrifying of all of them. And the best one.
@@rhinobridge facts
Best season. But ppl sleep on Delicate idc. It was so good
This critique just says, "I want the original vibe of the first season whenever there's a new one because I can't relate when you change it."
I checked out in season 5. Came back for 1984
Same here. Lost most interest during Hotel, watched Roanoke but barely had interest in it, watched one episode of Cult and checked out after that. Then Apocalypse came and barely drew me in and gave up on the show. When 1984 came out, I was skeptical but it turned out to be one of my favorite seasons and actually the last season I watched. The ending to 1984, looking back on it now, was probably the closest thing to a happy ending and felt like the end of AHS to me
Every season has the strange feeling that the first half was written by skilled storytellers.... and then they pass off the last episodes to a bunch of fresh out of college interns. Every damn season!!
Me who noped out of the first few episodes: "Oh no, who could have seen this coming............. Me, I did."
The show suffers from the same issues that Dr. Who has suffered with increasingly erratic storylines, and heavy handed political messaging. There's just no cohesion to the story anymore, it takes wild turns for reasons that don't make sense, even when there is another clear path to follow. Like the ending in Ride Tide is a prime example. I really liked the direction which the story was going but then it took a sudden shift into politics, and an overall failure to wrap up the story it had first set out to tell. They need different writers who are focused on telling a scary story and not trying to tell a heavy handed social commentary with some horror thrown in.
Not sure how you didn’t mention the atrocious writing….this show has the worst writers on tv….by far. This show is literally more of a comedy (cause of the writing) than a horror or drama show.
This show is such a mess I have hated it through and through even though I’m a massive massive horror fan. This feels like a horror show for people who don’t actually like horror
The only season I legitimately felt scared was Asylum. Watching Sarah Paulson's character lose her autonomy in so many ways was scary. The redemption Jessica Langs character felt genuine and I felt like the show actually had something to say about mental illness in the US.
The biggest problem with just about all seasons is that they start off on an interesting premise, lose focus then rush the last 2 episodes tying up plots and characters. Theres some sort of lack of planning with the writing and plotting like half the show is written and then shooting begins.
I unfortunately first attempted American Horror Story around the time I was watching Hannibal, and in terms of artistry and restraint, the contrast was too strong for me to stick with it.
Loved season 1, tried season 2 and a bit of 3. Never stuck with it past that.
Same
Personally, I enjoyed Double Feature. I thought it had really good themes. The issue was the condensing of the two stories. Both seemed like they could have had a lot of steam left. And just abruptly ended.
Used to be such a good show
it really did
AHS:1984 should've been the final season IMHO. Leave on a high note.
Problem with AHS was it went from a thinking show to essentially Criminal Minds: what shock factor can we throw at the audience this week?
Lmao dont insult CM like that. They were STILL better than AHS most of the time 😂
@NeeNee_B. don't get me wrong I like both shows. But there's gore because the storyline calls for it then there's gore just for the sake of it.
I personally thought 1984 was a good, fun season and the best one in years.
Ryan can make a hit show...he can't sustain it.
So whatever the narrator says the comments agree ,this is a opinion not factual.
Why does everyone forgot ryan Murphy made the very underrated nip tuck??? Very very very dark the carver comes to mind
“… the narrative meandered“ - the reason why I couldn’t get half way through any season before losing patience and just giving up.
Like seriously, who thought this show wasn’t gonna end at some point 😂
Can't agree. The first season was unique and fun, but messy in it's approach. The side plots that go nowhere were on full display. Asylum, Freakshow, Coven, Cult, and 1984 were all good enough. All have B level writing (sometimes B+), so it really just comes down to what kind of horror aesthetic you prefer. I don't think it's accurate at all to say that the first season is somehow unique or better than any of the others.
when you started talking about all the other seasons, it made me realize i clocked out at freak show lol
i only clocked back in for Apocalypse just bc i loved all the past characters
Unpopular opinion but I don’t think the show died when Jessica Lange left; it just became more hit or miss. Hotel is actually my favorite season and Lady Gaga killed it. I also think Roanoke was trash but Cult was fantastic. A lot of folks really like 1984 as well. Season 10 had one of the best episodes of the whole series but one of the worst endings, and Season 11 was beautiful while Season 12 was trash. AHS really hits when it hits, and really misses when it misses. I think there’s potential for it to come back, but not if people keep complaining about the same crap over and over expecting things to magically go back to the way they used to be.
Murder House being the first didnt suffer from the shared universe plot, characters returning, the trope of the place that you are stuck in if you die… it was all new , fresh and unpredictable. After that it lost its intrigue for shine and shock value. Jessica Lily Connie and Sarah really carried this show along with Evan.
I was OBSESSED with this SHOW in the beginning! 😁👍🏾 I felt like the WRITING became a little LAZY around season 4 & just went DOWNHILL from there. 😮💨 To me, the last "DECENT" season was APOCALYPSE. 😓💔
"you get the shovel, I'll get the bleach"
I liked the concept of the stories in season 10, but each part could’ve just been a single episode.
Roanoke is the best season, truly the most fun and weird
I’m so happy that you covered this ! I was waiting 👏🏾
we aim to please!
@@Nerdstalgic 💚🙌🏾🙌🏾
the only REAL horror in the show any more is watching a Kartrashian try to act in a show
I'm going to pause the video for a forced ad when it's actually finished. They should take their money back for that
roanoke genuinely terrified me but the finale was really bad
The show really swung back and forth between captivating and embarrassing.
Entropy is the reason for every failure/ death. Gotta have a beginning and a end, can’t just think it’ll go on forever, it leads to chaos.
I wish we had a whole series of Red Tide that's my main grievance with the show. My favourite series are Murder House, Coven, Roanoke, Apocalypse and Red Tide, mostly the supernatural ones.
Roanoke still amazes me I think it worked so well and terrified me for sure
All these people blaming it on one or a few actors are simple minded. And fail to see that Ryan & Falcuk simply lost interest as it went on as they both tacked on more and more projects. The show was already messy and convoluted even in the first three seasons, and that was when they had their full attention and a strong writing team. A writing team that also quickly became a rotating door of people which eventually moved on to higher production shows as head writers.
Cult was the last season I watched. I remember being so excited for every new season of AHS but after watching Cult I just gave up. I didn’t care about the show anymore.
It was nevery scary just always disturbing. Like it used gross/weird things and tried to say they were scary and i just found it dumb.
It had some great moments
It's like they can START a good story but it loses its way and goes off the rails
the Roanoke season actually angered me because it was so bad. Stopped watching religiously after that.
Asylum was THE BEST season!
Adding a plastic blow up doll to the cast didn't do them any favors. 😂
This video taught me that there were 12 seasons.
Coven was my favorite. Perfect mix of camp and compelling
When AHS first came out, I didn’t watch on TV until 1984, right before the Pandemic. Why? In 2011 it was an esoteric show. If you didn’t have the TIME or ENERGY to dissect Ryan’s style, you didn’t really let it on your radar where you had The Walking Dead and Blumhouse shoving things down our faces. Even Asylum was drawn out. I remember it airing episodes around Thanksgiving and thought “for a horror show, we are still on this and it’s Christmas time”. Ryan thought he could stretch some horror seasons for 3-4 months like Glee. No. Non-Horror fans like their shows from August to October. Maybe 1 week after November at latest. They won’t watch AHS when it’s one week before Christmas trees.
As the series went on, Ryan forgot how to end his seasons. Hotel is GREAT when it’s the countess and the residents. But the detective story was so bad and the lead for that story so boring, I can’t remember entire episodes sometimes.
Murphy always had a problem editing down to core plots. He threw everything and the kitchen sink into most seaons, and it was exhausting. If he could have been more focused every season would have been better for it.
I only liked Murder House (season 1) and Coven (season 3).
I tried giving Asylum (season 2) and Hotel (season 5) a go but it wasn’t interesting me.
And all the rest of the seasons don’t interest me.
The problem with AHS is 2 things.
1.looking back it very much gives off that Emo and My Space and Facebook Era stench that still is and was very off putting back then.
And 2, it’s a Ryan Murphy series.
If AHS was less Emo and Queer, and more for actual Horror fans, it could’ve been better and done better.
Basically Ryan Murphy was always the problem.
I loved every season in some way. Recently I really enjoyed nyc. By far one of the best endings and I couldn’t stop crying. Most media around the pandemic has a bigger impact on others. But that season was real and the display of love was unmatched. Love is a core element of each season and nyc nailed it.
Went downhill after the season 4 finale
I was literally just talking about this before this video even popped out.
Anything past the first three seasons just went down after that
They started focusing on celebrities more than material
Jesus, 12 seasons?? I stopped watching after Hotel, had no idea it's lasted this long after.
I honestly really enjoyed seasons 1-5 alot. Roanoke was a massive step back. After that 84 was ok and Apocalypse was decent.
I recently watched American Horror Stories (plural) and enjoyed all three seasons of it. It gave me the horror fix I loved in Murder House and Coven.
I've never met anyone who actually likes American horror stories😂
The decline of AHS can be traced by how crazy their dutch tilts got as the seasons progressed.
AHS once was about horror and had great storyline that related to reality like the first 4 seasons. I hope they return to a greater show. Season 13 has been approved, I truly hope they either bring the coven back like they said. Would hate to see the show disappear
Hold up... There's 12 seasons?!
I was obsessed with 84 but after that it was downhill
Season 1, 3, and 5 were amazing IMO.
Instead of focusing on good stories in later seasons, it seemed to try and "out do" itself.
1984 was the only season I liked, of the ones I’ve seen anyway. It had a more consistent tone and storyline, with few subplots that went nowhere. I think the fewer episodes forced them to hone in on the story elements, and it had a happy ending. I thought Murder House and Asylum were both AWFUL, and while I liked Coven on first viewing, it really didn’t stand up on second viewing. Freak Show became less interesting when they ditched Twisty and focused on Dandy, I skipped Hotel because I had no interest in watching Lady Gaga attempt to act, and I liked Roanoke until they switched perspectives into found footage/torture porn, which is a combination of two subgenres I can’t stand.
I love the last season. It was on it's way to become one of the best seasons produced so far, until they released part two. Somehow, for some reason, they decided to rush and butcher the ending therefor completely ruining the entire season.
Asylum and Freak Show were my all time faves.
Agreed. The show continues downward since season 1 and finally went down the gutter with Kim.K. trying to act on camera. Goodbye.
I thought that three out of the first four were incredible but that was it. Freakshow was the absolute best in my opinion, second Asylum then Murder House. I didn't care for Coven. And losing Jessica Lange really affected it for the worse
Season 9 was a love letter to the video game that did it better.
I stopped during the split season. Show has never been high art. Even the best seasons are fun trash.
I still feel like coven was the best season and I’ll die on that hill