@@tommycochran1019 Technically no. They existed at the time, but in a limited number. They were just very isolated settlers at the time. Hillbillies came into notoriety during the Civil War and then on.
The french had “hillbillies” in the Americas for along time. They went on to found what is today Chicago. They have have them still today (Montreal). What Franklin sold was an image of the Americas that the French had already knew about. The royalty in France was no stranger to the Fur trade of the Americas.
I immensely respect Ben Franklin for his work, but his approach to diplomacy would really turn me into a comet. Poor Adams, trying to do his best, at "nerd" style like one of the historians said, and in the other field, Franklin, partying and drinking til' dawn. In John's mind, this really looked frivolous, but Ben always had social graces on his side, he became fast acquainted with the French. Well, as I'm not a social butterfly, on this I would sadly be John.
Becoming President of the United States is not too bad of an accomplishment. As others pointed out, Franklin may be more well known, but John Adams was no slouch. It is almost sad how he has been overlooked as a whole. For all of Adams faults, he was a man who loved his family and country very deeply and dedicated his life to serving them both.
Franklin loved the older French aristocratic women. I think he termed the tacky phrase about bedding older women "they don't tell, they don't swell and they like it like hell".
I can’t get over the fact that this dude changed history and brokered individual liberty by partying and sleeping with rich elites. What a mad lad. TOAST to the GOAT 🍻
Well it was. Adams played his brains and ultimately lost, but Franklin probably just said “give us a couple years and if we still in it, we Gucci? Ok, ima sleep with the most powerful women in France. Ttyl 👉🏻👈🏻” gamble which paid off somehow.
As much as Ben is my fav, I thought John Adams was the one who sealed the alliance with England. The british weren't as easy-going as the French, but they were honest and straight foward... something Adams was more accustomed to.
Actually John Adams gives most of the credit for the peace treaty with Britain to John Jay the countries feature first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court and one of our most important but least remember founding fathers !!!
Ben would stroll in at noon after a late night at the salon. Just the imagery of that in my head is hilarious😂 Waves his hat as he just moseys on in lol
Next to Washington Franklin is probably the most indispensable person to winning the revolution. Yes but without John Adams America would not have had a revolution to begin with. Adams was by far the most important of every single one of them.
What made him smart was likely staying out of running as a president, especially how Adams and Jefferson’s friendship nearly broke because they let politics dictate themselves.
It's ironic that the paintings of BF don't look like him. They only show one in a other documentary that does. Look up the realistic shadow sketch they did of the profile of his face during his lifetime (they did one for GW also). It was a lot rounder and less sharp and defined then the popular imaginary images of him. Don't ever take paintings of people before the modern age at face value. It most likely is not real.
Ah, war fantasies. The tensions and tribalism of the past decade barely measure up to the last time America was going through a generational transition in its politics, the 1960s, let alone could be considered as heated as the 1860s.
wasn’t it John Adams rather than Franklin who had succeeded in getting the great terms from Britain? Franklin had continually insisted on a more pro French settlement, whereas Adams, utilising the British, got a settlement that was far more accommodating to the Americans
Imagine John Adams desperation, while the Revolutionary War is on the brink of disaster, bringing the whole house of cards tumbling down, the French are pussyfooting around. They had over a 1,000 years of civilization but they looked like a backward nation. But at the end, after many dead on both sides, they sent aid.
I will at least admit this: given Mr. Franklin's brand of...diplomatic relations...we should probably see if we owe the French any child support payments.
John Adams has a point: How could the man who wrote "Early to bed, early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise" not be practicing what he preached?
I'm not at all being Anti-Semitic, but why does every intellectual documentary have like 50% Jews interviewed when they are in theory only 1% of the population. I know their parents, culture puts value on education, but Jesus it's bizarre how big their profile is in certain things. It's like having interviews for music and having it be 80% black interviews for no apparent reason or somtin like that. Save the PC shaming if you think that's wrong. I'm just using logic asking that question. If it was the same question and situation of why, theoretically say, mostly whites are interviewed for Indian culture instead of Indians you would not question it at all.
The jews have been in many parts of history, and they keep records of their history and archive it. Jews value historical study and the values of the mathematical arts, I am not quite surprised, to be honest.
Many of them are Jews while many of them aren’t. There’s not a lot of them. What difference does it really make? If they’re Americans who studied the history then they should discuss it. Also aren’t you a Christian? You worship a Jew.
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They imagined colonists as backwoods hillbillies, so he played it up.
Was hillbilly even a word back then?
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Technically no. They existed at the time, but in a limited number. They were just very isolated settlers at the time. Hillbillies came into notoriety during the Civil War and then on.
What a salesman
@@tommycochran1019more like frontiersman
The french had “hillbillies” in the Americas for along time. They went on to found what is today Chicago. They have have them still today (Montreal). What Franklin sold was an image of the Americas that the French had already knew about. The royalty in France was no stranger to the Fur trade of the Americas.
Sounds like a damn good comedy: Two men who couldn't be more different on a year long diplomatic road trip hahaha.
It’d need to be styled on British humour though… and I doubt the Brits’ll find it in themselves to do it.
The Odd Couple
Guys $Yen$ Franklin gained Youth and witts as Alexander The Great of Macedonia.
This should be a history comedy “The Player and the Plain”
Bro, Franklin is the GOAT. What a salesman
HBO John Adams brought me here
Franklin was a player that none of the modern so called "players* could hold a candle to.
Makes sense why John Adams became the US Ambassador for the Kingdom of Great Britain, and Benjamin Franklin for the Kingdom of France
I immensely respect Ben Franklin for his work, but his approach to diplomacy would really turn me into a comet. Poor Adams, trying to do his best, at "nerd" style like one of the historians said, and in the other field, Franklin, partying and drinking til' dawn. In John's mind, this really looked frivolous, but Ben always had social graces on his side, he became fast acquainted with the French. Well, as I'm not a social butterfly, on this I would sadly be John.
If anything it showes how great things in history are often not done by the people who paraded themselves around
John Adams more likely wanted to return to his wife and children
Becoming President of the United States is not too bad of an accomplishment. As others pointed out, Franklin may be more well known, but John Adams was no slouch. It is almost sad how he has been overlooked as a whole. For all of Adams faults, he was a man who loved his family and country very deeply and dedicated his life to serving them both.
@@jacobsabin2039 great response 👍
Same. Did my thesis on Franklin & he’s the founding fathers’ secret weapon imo, and unfortunately I would def be Adams.
Lafayette was a 19 year old General when he was in the American Revolution. He became an officer at 13
Franklin's serious business was in the beds of the French upper crust. He was a superstud. That's what won the war.
The penis mightier than the sword?
Franklin loved the older French aristocratic women. I think he termed the tacky phrase about bedding older women "they don't tell, they don't swell and they like it like hell".
@@artlover1477 That's the gist of what he wrote in more elegant language. I recall "they are so grateful."
I can’t get over the fact that this dude changed history and brokered individual liberty by partying and sleeping with rich elites. What a mad lad. TOAST to the GOAT 🍻
'Merica!
Benjamin Franklin= Productivity genius.
GOAT salesman
@@DibbzTV That too.
GOAT history moment. Selling a revolution against a monarchy to a current monarch. Flash forward to French Revolution
"He speaks of Franklin's charm as if it should have been a controlled substance"
Well it was. Adams played his brains and ultimately lost, but Franklin probably just said “give us a couple years and if we still in it, we Gucci? Ok, ima sleep with the most powerful women in France. Ttyl 👉🏻👈🏻” gamble which paid off somehow.
4:20 "American Revolution" *cues 80s porn music*
Lol!
Well, it is porn for us Americans.
As much as Ben is my fav, I thought John Adams was the one who sealed the alliance with England. The british weren't as easy-going as the French, but they were honest and straight foward... something Adams was more accustomed to.
Actually John Adams gives most of the credit for the peace treaty with Britain to John Jay the countries feature first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court and one of our most important but least remember founding fathers !!!
Exactly. Both were needed. Frank king to win the war, and Adams to win the peace.
@@tandmwoodham1162 well John jay had his legal and finance background so of course Britain respected that most
Ben would stroll in at noon after a late night at the salon. Just the imagery of that in my head is hilarious😂 Waves his hat as he just moseys on in lol
Every american has two countries : his own and... Paris !
Benjamin Franklin
Ben Franklin: the original American Gigolo.
John Adam’s in France was a “stranger in a strange land”
Next to Washington Franklin is probably the most indispensable person to winning the revolution. Yes but without John Adams America would not have had a revolution to begin with. Adams was by far the most important of every single one of them.
Ah yes, the History Channel, before it became the Junk Dealers' Network.
Ben would have made a great US Prez !!!!!
What made him smart was likely staying out of running as a president, especially how Adams and Jefferson’s friendship nearly broke because they let politics dictate themselves.
It's ironic that the paintings of BF don't look like him. They only show one in a other documentary that does. Look up the realistic shadow sketch they did of the profile of his face during his lifetime (they did one for GW also). It was a lot rounder and less sharp and defined then the popular imaginary images of him. Don't ever take paintings of people before the modern age at face value. It most likely is not real.
Good for you Benny
Who's watching this in Nov 2020, post election-pre civil war2?
Ah, war fantasies. The tensions and tribalism of the past decade barely measure up to the last time America was going through a generational transition in its politics, the 1960s, let alone could be considered as heated as the 1860s.
Genius.
The Odd Couple, go to The French Court.
What movie is this called
Its a History Channel documentary on Ben Franklin. At this time you can watch it here that someone uploaded on this site.
wasn’t it John Adams rather than Franklin who had succeeded in getting the great terms from Britain? Franklin had continually insisted on a more pro French settlement, whereas Adams, utilising the British, got a settlement that was far more accommodating to the Americans
Imagine John Adams desperation, while the Revolutionary War is on the brink of disaster, bringing the whole house of cards tumbling down,
the French are pussyfooting around. They had over a 1,000 years of civilization but they looked like a backward nation. But at the end, after many dead on both sides,
they sent aid.
insane level of delusion and hate towards the french "backward" nation lol everyone copied and praised everything french including murica
Were both of them ever met The Queen.. Marie Antoinette...?
Yes
American own French more than a surrender meme
I will at least admit this: given Mr. Franklin's brand of...diplomatic relations...we should probably see if we owe the French any child support payments.
John Adams has a point: How could the man who wrote "Early to bed, early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise" not be practicing what he preached?
Salons were not uniquely Parisian...
It was a foreign concept to Colonial Americans.
@@kate2create738 The narrator is in-character as a colonial American?
Traders. Fighting with the enemy.
I'm not at all being Anti-Semitic, but why does every intellectual documentary have like 50% Jews interviewed when they are in theory only 1% of the population. I know their parents, culture puts value on education, but Jesus it's bizarre how big their profile is in certain things. It's like having interviews for music and having it be 80% black interviews for no apparent reason or somtin like that. Save the PC shaming if you think that's wrong. I'm just using logic asking that question. If it was the same question and situation of why, theoretically say, mostly whites are interviewed for Indian culture instead of Indians you would not question it at all.
The jews have been in many parts of history, and they keep records of their history and archive it. Jews value historical study and the values of the mathematical arts, I am not quite surprised, to be honest.
Who are Jews? They dont even say their names.
They are typically highly educated and intelligent
Or why does it matter lol weird ass observation
Many of them are Jews while many of them aren’t. There’s not a lot of them. What difference does it really make? If they’re Americans who studied the history then they should discuss it. Also aren’t you a Christian? You worship a Jew.
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