Thank you for the kind words! I think it is still a bit of a niche area of interest, particularly given the history slant - and my opinions on things (especially beer) would probably not find favour with everyone! So maybe there's a limit to how big the audience might grow but I feel pleased to have got this far. I'm still surprised there aren't more channels about pubs on RUclips. There are of course other channels which cover London, and throw in the odd pub along the way (John Rogers, Joolz Guides, RobsLondon etc) but really not that many which are just about pubs and/or pub history.
I have been telling as many folk as possible about this channel. Considering the age and reach of CAMRA, I cannot believe they haven't done something similar.
I just discovered it and it is right up my alley. Oddly I am a resident of the USA that has only visited London twice, but I am quite the fan of both pubs and history, so this is going to be one of my favorite channels!
Hi Tweedy. Despite what you might think I thoroughly enjoyed your tour of Hackney. The pubs were interesting from a historical point of view and many had pleasing exteriors worthy of note. Granted the interiors were somewhat eclectic, they were interesting to see. I take your point that they are trying to appeal to a new, younger clientele with a taste for beer which is alien to those of us of a more advanced age. I can’t see myself ever venturing into such establishments and I thank you as due to your efforts I do not need to. Please don’t shy from showing us what has become of many of these former tied houses. 👏👏👍😀🍺
Thanks Andrew, and I really appreciate your positive take on what was a bit of a disappointing afternoon out! I suppose there were some glints of rough diamonds here and there: I know I was quite sniffy about the Ship but in hindsight something about the almost buried vestiges of a more aesthetic age in amongst that modern hip ephemera was oddly satisfying. Any port in a storm! If you'll pardon the pun.
My grandparents lived next door to the old ship on Sylvester path, myself and my mam lived there just after ww2 while my dad was in the RAF. My grandad was a bit of a lad in his younger days and was barred from most of the pubs in Hackney but he had to behave himself in the Ship, it being on his doorstep. Coincidentally my two younger brothers were nicknamed Tweedy at school and it's stuck to this day.
The Cat and Mutton, Mutton Lane and Sheep lane all relate to this part of Hackney being on the 'Black Path' - an ancient cattle and sheep drovers lane from the open country to Smithfield Market that corresponds with modern day Sylvester path, Martello street and Broadway Market
Thank you! Very pleased to hear you enjoy the maps and newspaper clippings - I do sometimes worry some people might start to zone out at that point in the videos! Finding those old documents can often be the most fun part of making the videos for me - to begin with I just used those sources to try and prove or disprove claimed dates for when a pub was first established... but they often throw up interesting stories which really bring the history of the pub to life for me.
He's Defo got the provenance and diligence going for him and I subbed immediately today upon watching this,my first upload, I think he'll swipe aside the many who simply enter, have an ale then talk bollox about the locals. Plus I mentioned that YT promoted this to me and I only caught a single similar stream last week so I don't see him losing, best wishes to you all and England tomorrow night ⚽.🤗😎📚
I used to frequent the Pembury Tavern in Hackney in the early 1980's. I was a student. Every Thursday we went to Hackney College to do metalwork like electric arc welding which was great fun. At lunchtime I went across to the Pembury with my drinking buddy. We'd play pool and Space Invaders. But Thursday was also stripper lunchtime. The stripper would walk around the pub in a see through negligee with a jug pint collecting donations towards her stage act. The old men would sit in front of the stage wiping their spectacles clean to get a better view.
The Chesham Arms on the other side of the church green at Hackney Central was an excellent pub the last time I was there (eight or nine years ago). Maybe include it on a Clapton pub tour: from there to the Windsor to the Clapton Hart and to the Elderfield. Maybe the Royal Sovereign as well. PS. Some of us like your pint of Harvey’s Best and also enjoy pale ales, IPAs, and prefer stouts/porters that aren’t Guinness.
I used to drink in The Dolphin occasionally 20 years ago. It does have a nice interior - lots of tiling, iirc. It's use has changed since, as you say, as have a number of other pubs on Mare Street, and I'm too old now to feel comfortable in them. I occasionally drink in The Dove. In all my years living here, I have never set foot in The Cat and Mutton - it has always had a reputation for being too hipsterish (even more so than The Dove!). Interesting to see it has an upstairs, though. My local is the Perseverance, just over the canal bridge at the other end of Broadway Market (which bridge is called The Cat and Mutton Bridge). It has zero interesting features, unless you include some of the clientele.
You gave me a chuckle on this one Tweedy. Haven't seen you quite as forlorn and I do enjoy your subtly biting and humorous commentary when one is not quite up to standard. I'll strike off a pop in to this area and their ghastly citrus beers on my upcoming visit in October. Well done again.
Oh dear - I could feel your vexation here. I hope you weren’t tempted to get into a fracas over evolution. I wonder if it was just the business that the wife had a dislike for, or Hackney in general?! This was a sterling effort and you provided lots of fascinating history, despite the disappointing decor and beer encountered. The Cock looked OK - I do like that 1930s vibe in such pubs, there’s a sort of spirit of optimism. Also really enjoyed the bit about the Mermaid. Whilst it’s no longer there, I always find it fascinating working out the history of a building - the little shop infilling what had been the entrance to the stabling. The old Google Streetview from when the fabric shop remembered the pub’s name was my kind of thing too! Glad you mentioned the damaged pillar at The Dolphin - it was the first thing I noticed there! This video demonstrates your commitment to the cause. Hope you’ve recovered OK!
Thank you Mr WC21! Perhaps this is one of those outings I will remember more fondly in hindsight? This felt a bit like a form of urban archaeology! What little vestiges remained of traditional pub architecture and interior design were generally very well buried in the grime and the hipster ephemera but I suppose that made them more gratifying to uncover. Yes I found the Mermaid really caught my attention too - especially once I found that wonderful Hogarth-esque painting of 1811. It's such a riot of colour and it really looks like the attendees were having a great time. Hard to imagine that scene turning into the rather depressing streetscape we see today.
Interesting pubs, I know them all quite well; I take your point about the pronounced flavours of Citra & Galaxy hops however Five Points XPA, which I observed on one of the Hackney hand pumps, is a good example of these varieties. IMHO a bit more under control in this beer than others, and I think Five Points do produce quality beer, so please do try that beer as it is often crops up on the bar in London real ale pubs, and it is at least appealing to the Craft beer brigade. In fact I just checked and my local micro pub has it on right now, so I might even pop up there now for a quick pint of the stuff. As per below, the Pembury, a great real ale pub - be warned though you will encounter hipsters; but then there are worst tribes that inhabit pubs.
Lived near Mare Street circa 2006-10, the Dolphin changed irrevocably, becoming a pub/nightclub with a gazebo style outdoors. The Pembury Tavern might have been worth a visit, but it is a bit new-age hipster vibe. I used to drink in the Wishing Well at the top of Mare Street a lot, always fun.
I can remember a few years ago, searching for a RUclips Channel that covered this niche. Showcasing the atmosphere , stories and architectural details of historic pubs. At that time, a channel like that didn't exist and I was surprised by that, because I reasoned that surely I couldn't be the only one who wanted to see more coverage of these fascinating and richly historic buildings. I'm so incredibly glad that I stumbled upon Tweedy Pubs a few months ago. It is now one of my very favorite channels on the site.
Hi Tweedy, the sheep connection is that there is a drovers lane running through Hackney to the city, John Rogers walked it earlier in the year. ruclips.net/video/xFOoy5wPrWg/видео.html The Pembury Arms is worth visiting for the vast number of kegs and the food. The Anchor and Hope on the canal is a friendly local Fullers "back street" pub, very lively at the weekend. Pub On The Park has it's odd wood carvings downstairs. The Virgin Queen has an lovely wood panelled interior. Last but not least, The Adam & Eve has an L-shaped pool table.
Thanks Steve - the droving routes make sense, I also saw hints of that in other nearby areas I've visited recently, like Hoxton and Islington. I think there was also sheep farming in the area itself though. I did a quick newspaper search just now and found an article from 1742 that a man ninety years of age was "taken in the Marsh at Hackney for stealing of Sheep". You can see the fields (apparently marshy) around Hackney on John Rocque's 1746 map featured a few times in this video. That also plays into the debate about whether or not the term "Hackney carriage" actually comes from Hackney - there are those who say Hackney was at one time a place where horses were reared, but others doubt this because the ground was too marshy, which is apparently not good for horses. Sheep don't mind marshy ground though - plenty of examples today of places like Romney Marsh where the tradition of sheep farming continues.
Tweedy, just came across your pub channel (and outdoors) and by far the best pub coverage I have seen in a long time. I’m from the USA and visit a ton of locals like yourself…making a map now of some of the ones you visit (including the Cock as I love the South Hampton Arms).
used to drink in the Horse & Groom on Mare street late 1970s... we used to call it the Remorse & Gloom but it was a proper lovely old place. Also the Royal Oak, used to go there to see Lily Savage, great place.
Thank you again Tweedy! For another video and on this occasion- taking one for the team to endure an adventure there! To be fair, I recall many years ago enjoying an evening in the Dolphin, perhaps before it became too much of a 'club'. I do remember it having a decorative interior with the tiles, bar back and decorative wood dividers. I also visited a bar area of the Hackney Empire once when a friend played there with her band. I remember that having some nice features, perhaps of the original theatre.
@@TweedyPubs Half way down Hackney Rd the remnants of the Victorian Nags Head can be found, I have 1703 map showing an inn with the same name in same location.
I'm glad you bothered. It was interesting nonetheless. There were two personal familiar references contained within the video. One, my grandparents ran a pub called The Cock Inn in Norwich (now closed), and two, one of the historic articles about the Dolphin referred to Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, which was the town our family lived in from '68 - '73. Thanks!
Another enjoyable video. I do appreciate the historical research you do and pointing out the details on the buildings to us. It is depressing that so many interiors have become bleak and soulless. Your aversion to the dreaded grapefruit is always hilarious.
Thanks John! Yes I feel like we're in a real nadir for pub interior preservation. I get the sense there was another bad bout of it in the 1960s when there was a thirst for modernisation, and a lot of pubs lots their internal partitions. Then it felt like that calmed down a bit in the 70s and 80s... but then it flared up again in the 90s, probably in part due to all those home improvement shows on the TV. I sometimes feel like I'm shouting into the wind when it comes to the scourge of grapefruit beer so it's nice that at least some people here appear to have similar sentiments! Yesterday at my local the three guest beers on the hand pumps were an "American IPA", an "American Pale Ale" and one simply labelled a pale ale (which on enquiring turned out to also be made with American hops). Grapefruit as far as the eye could see! Is it really too much to ask that a traditional English pub serves some traditional English beer?
@@TweedyPubs Absolutely, it did appear to gain momentum in the 90s, there were still plenty of nice characterful pubs in the 80s but many have gone or been ruined. God forbid, if we do lose them, at least we've got your record of what's left at the moment. And keep shouting about the terrible beer, three pumps of alcoholic grapefruit is really unacceptable!
(Lizard Lounge Radio) Haha, "A drunken argument about evolution." That sounds very familiar, had a few drunken discussions on this very topic over the years. Haha! Currently enjoying a pint of Doom Bar. Cheers!
Not too bad mate!!😂😂😂 Sacrifice in the name of education!!! I’ve definitely seen a lot worse!! I love the sign outside The Cock, ‘proper strong cider and other refreshing things!’ Well done mate, keep up the good work! I’m in Soho on Tuesday recreating a couple of your tours 👍 Thanks again
That was very interesting! A tour round the historic pubs in a part of London I’ve never visited. Much enhanced by the erudite comments on the architecture, the interesting old maps and the press snippets from the 19th century (and earlier!) Have subscribed…
Good evening, Tweedy I'm not really familiar with the Hackney area of London, but I'm always interested in seeing another area of London in your series. Alias, being in my early sixties, I agree that these definitely look like the sort of establishments that cater for much younger people than me. Like yourself, modern citrusy flavoured craft beers are not really to my taste but each to their own. When I find myself in such establishments on odd occasions, it's usually time to grab a Guinness instead. I always enjoy your historical facts and news on each pubs and it must take you some time researching various records. For some reason, the name Cat and Mutton really appealed to me, and I was intrigued by the iron ceiling on the upper floor, too. Happy pub hunting, and I look forward to your next video. 😁👍
Thanks Lee! I quite agree - each to their own. It would be very self centred of me to expect every single pub to cater solely to my tastes, and it's completely normal and appropriate that different pubs tailor their offering to different crowds. ...but it seemed like here in Hackney there wasn't a single pub with a genuine traditional interior serving traditional English beer. If I had found just one place serving a decent pint of bitter I would have been much happier!
It's a bit special isn't it? Given that evolution was still a radical notion in the mid 19th century it is to be expected this was a bit of a contentious issue, but what's surprising is that it seems it was the pro-evolution guy who was the aggressor here!
Funny that they put a wager on it - the winner has to prove or disprove the existence of God basically, so difficult to know how it would have been settled if they hadn't gone for the violence option!
thank you, Interesting and informative, please don't give up on the east end, just down the road a bit from where you were is Bethnal Green and I would enjoy your analysis of those pubs... many to explore! Many no longer functioning but still quite a few still going strong.
You are branching out into the sticks!! If you ever get up to Palmers Green I’d love to see what it looks like nowadays! Just outside Palmers Green station (overhead trains I think I used call them back in 1989) was a pub whose name escapes me. The fox and Hounds was up around there also, maybe further up the hill. Manhattan Bar down the road near the old Palmers Green bus depot must be long gone by now! I used also frequent a few hostelries in Turnpike Lane and the very odd time The good old Finsbury Park Tavern. Hackney was a tad dodgy even back in 1989 from what I remember. Great video 👍🏻
Hi John, Well I enjoyed watching and seeing all the old news items and maps. It was well worth your visit. Thanks for sticking with it. Do you come across any pubs still sticking with lounge and public bars? Its something that I remember from my old local. All the best!!
17:25 Beer stored in a warm place allegedly sours. I’ve read that the sour beers produced in Germany are often served with a syrup like raspberry or woodruff to offset some of the sourness.
Enjoyed that. I got a real sense of place with this video. Have you added a second camera? I think I can detect a change in lens. The maps are great and very evocative and informative. That drunk tv-chef chap on the telly you like would be horrified by the half pints.
Thank you! I had always assumed you weren't particularly interested in London (understandably, let's face it I'd rather have been out in the countryside on this particular afternoon) so it feels like an honour that you've watched this, more so because I'm not sure I particularly enjoyed the outing! When doing these pub videos I use my phone for the interior shots, as the GoPro struggles a bit indoors. Actually I use the phone for some of the exterior shots too, as my phone at least pretends to have a zoom (it doesn't really of course). If I were the sort of RUclipsr who took a bit more pride in his work I might attempt to colour correct all of the footage to compensate for that, but on this occasion I just wanted this to be over and done with! I suspect Hackney would have been a far more visually appealing place in the 18th century, so on that level I agree with you - the maps were probably the best part of this! I always fear my ability to communicate will deteriorate noticeably towards the end if I go to five pubs and drink a pint at each, and it might be a bit unfair on the final pub in particular in terms of my ability to give a fair assessment of its architectural merits... I doubt those sorts of petty concerns would have troubled Floyd!
Great video, I personally would also never set foot in a pub that has been turned into a dance club (not my vibe!) 10:45 It was nice to see the history as usual 🍻 cheers from Calgary
I’ve not spent a proper amount of time in Hackney, mostly to ramble through Broadway Market on a Saturday. The one pub I have ventured into is the one you chose not to do, The Crown. Not a bad place, decent interior, ok selection, and a surprisingly good pizza. The highlight (or lowlight) was the Old Ship. My wife was in the room when you flashed a picture of the interior and she muttered an expletive! We both laughed. Excellent video…well done…Cheers!!!🍻
Thanks Ed! Yes I probably should have gone into the Crown, and that might well have changed the tone of the whole video... The sequencing in the video is a bit out of order: the bit where I was waiting around for the Dolphin to open was actually after I had been to the other four pubs Trying to kill time in Hackney really seemed to instill in me a sense that I didn't belong there! Your wife sounds like a keeper!
Not watched this one yet Tweedy but I must say, I am looking forward to this immensely. I can only imagine the Sour Beer, Citrus Radlers and 'punk IPA's' that you had to rightfully, disdainfully ignore on this quest. Well, at least you were not plagued by a horde of flying ants on this venture. Or were you?
Your predictions about the beer were pretty much on the money! No flying ants yet this year - somehow it's the middle of June but summer still feels like a very distant prospect!
I'm not nearly as averse to Belgian beer as I am to those grapefruitey pale ales - I just need to be in the right frame of mind! If I had walked through the door thinking "this is a Belgian beer bar" I could probably have had a great time but after a series of slightly disappointing pubs beforehand I was hankering for a traditional English pub at that point!
Agree with you on the cock tavern, come autumn and winter they have some great dark ales. Perhaps give the Pembury Tavern go it's about 10 minutes walk from the cock and brew their own beers one of my favourites being Railway Porter
Appreciated! Not a very fun outing but I guess there's something satisfying about being able to say I'm not really a fan of what Hackney has to offer on the pub front from a point of experience rather than just lazily dismissing it based on hearsay.
Hi Tweedy, I think it was definitely worth going to Hackney. I think you went to some good pubs and outside of weekday lunch time they're busy and lively. I think you missed a trick at The Dove though and should have gone for Belgian Ale of the Trappist or monkish persuasion. Those Belgians make fantastic beers. I wonder if Tweedy would ever do a craft beer pub crawl?? I think you're just not trying the right beers and we could bring you to the craft side! 🤪
Yes I think with Belgian beers my hesitance is more down to lack of knowledge rather than having any particular aversion... Although I would much rather enjoy learning about them in Belgium rather than here! When in Rome and all that. As for a "craft beer pub crawl" though I think that highly unlikely. 😁
I was going to re-write the Stones song as follows, but I guess I can't after watching: "Now he gets his kicks in Hackney not in Knightsbridge anymore..."
I think I would have been happier in Knightsbridge - I suppose both areas have seen big changes over the last few decades, but at least in Knightsbridge there has been some recognition (albeit it probably from a cynical commercial perspective) that it was worth preserving some of the pubs, to cater to the tourists.
@@TweedyPubs Glad to hear they're preserving them in Knightsbridge even if it's just for tourist folk like me haha. Millions across the globe have an interest in London as it's a true "World City." Keep up the great work. Thanks!
@@TweedyPubs Based on your knowledge, it might as well be 200 years. Good for you. Here's a London tourist observation you may find interesting: About ten years ago, I found what looked like a real neighbourhood pub in Bloomsbury. I walked in and the whole place went silent. I'm a pretty solidly-built guy, and I noticed the "hard man" of the pub staring intently at me as I approached the bar. I ordered a pint and once everyone heard my "American" accent (Canadian), they all relaxed. I was wearing a sporty polo shirt that apparently had the wrong colours for that pub hence their concern. Clearly I know nothing about British football pub protocol. The places you explore seem to be without that issue.
The motoring equivalent of these pubs are SUVs. I can picture an SUV owner draping their German brand name keyring on the bar as they order a Chardonnay and start talking about how much their house has risen in value
It's an interesting observation - I don't live too far from Camden Town, but I hardly ever go to any of the pubs there. I suppose there are parallels in that both areas seem to be heavily focused on some kind of "youth" culture, but I think the average Hackney-ite would consider Camden deeply uncool, and vice verse.
Torture! Nearly 2AM & I saw this & watched 33 seconds. Struggling to keep my eyes open! Imagining grapefruit torture for our hero - but must wait for the weeekend to watch!
Hackney is not like the old Hackney people think of when they hear the name Hackney. I’ve got loads of family in E5, E8 and E9. I grew up in north London but I know Hackney very well. It used to be a shit hole, but now it’s gentrified to fuck, which is not always a bad thing, but sometimes can be. All my family over that side luckily own their homes which are all worth a million and more. It’s still got its shit bits, like any area in London. But if you keep your self to yourself an do not look for trouble you will have a good life. One of my family members recently inherited his parents house, the house next door recently got sold for 1.3 million. These old London houses are crazy, masssssive basements which could be two massive rooms or decent sized flat. 100 foot garden, then 3 floors above it to do as you wish. If these houses are getting sold for 1.3 million now, what’s it going to be like in 20/30 years. The house that’s was inherited was bought £3500 back in day. Madddd come up.
It was an interesting tour. I am surprised that the blue haired people haven't demolished all the pubs. Hackney is too degenerate a place for me, but it is nice to see that some pubs survive.
I felt very out of place there, and although I try very hard to not get political in these videos, yes the "blue haired people" as you put it were a big part of that.
The Dolphin tavern is one of the nastiest pubs in London! The one you go to late at night when everything else is closed and you dont have the sense to go home. The Ship is over priced, and more of a restaurant on the weekend for the types who moved to Hackney but would rather live in Fulham if they could afford to.
Liked the Dove but Cock Tavern was the best, great beer selection. Sympathy with the closed Dolphin..I made 2 attempts in pollenca to film a certain bar and shut twice( 4 wasted bus jorneys)😂 worth doing was Hackney John👍
Perhaps I just hit it at a bad moment - it was a grey day and a weekday lunchtime after all - and maybe somebody who knew the area better might have chosen some nicer bits I missed... but what I did see I found mostly pretty grim.
It was a bit! Perhaps the weather didn't help, it was very grey, and I'm sure the atmosphere in the pubs would have been very different in the evening, rather than a weekday lunchtime... All of that said, I can't really say I'd be keen to go back to Hackney.
Lower clapton road aka murder mile. North Hackney is now referred to by estate agents as the district named Cazanove....attempting to fool the buyer.😊😊😊😊
Think perhaps you need to approach a pub, as a pub. It's a pub, anyone can drink there, go and have a drink. Also maybe talk to people in the pubs, it's good to talk to people you don't know in pubs.
This man created a whole RUclips channel as an excuse to go on a pub crawl. You have to respect it.
It'd be awesome if he just got super drunk by the end of every video and the history just gets more and more completely incorrect and just made up :D
The pints are a business expense!
It’s astounding that given the quality of Tweedy’s research and videography that this channel has only 5000 some subscribers.
Thank you for the kind words! I think it is still a bit of a niche area of interest, particularly given the history slant - and my opinions on things (especially beer) would probably not find favour with everyone! So maybe there's a limit to how big the audience might grow but I feel pleased to have got this far.
I'm still surprised there aren't more channels about pubs on RUclips. There are of course other channels which cover London, and throw in the odd pub along the way (John Rogers, Joolz Guides, RobsLondon etc) but really not that many which are just about pubs and/or pub history.
Perhaps but there’s 1ksof similar channels AND it’s up to Greedy YT/giggle who gets promoted
I have been telling as many folk as possible about this channel. Considering the age and reach of CAMRA, I cannot believe they haven't done something similar.
I just discovered it and it is right up my alley. Oddly I am a resident of the USA that has only visited London twice, but I am quite the fan of both pubs and history, so this is going to be one of my favorite channels!
Hi Tweedy. Despite what you might think I thoroughly enjoyed your tour of Hackney. The pubs were interesting from a historical point of view and many had pleasing exteriors worthy of note. Granted the interiors were somewhat eclectic, they were interesting to see. I take your point that they are trying to appeal to a new, younger clientele with a taste for beer which is alien to those of us of a more advanced age. I can’t see myself ever venturing into such establishments and I thank you as due to your efforts I do not need to.
Please don’t shy from showing us what has become of many of these former tied houses. 👏👏👍😀🍺
Thanks Andrew, and I really appreciate your positive take on what was a bit of a disappointing afternoon out! I suppose there were some glints of rough diamonds here and there: I know I was quite sniffy about the Ship but in hindsight something about the almost buried vestiges of a more aesthetic age in amongst that modern hip ephemera was oddly satisfying. Any port in a storm! If you'll pardon the pun.
My grandparents lived next door to the old ship on Sylvester path,
myself and my mam lived there just after ww2 while my dad was in the RAF. My grandad was a bit of a lad in his younger days and was barred from most of the pubs in Hackney but he had to behave himself in the Ship, it being on his doorstep. Coincidentally my two younger brothers were nicknamed Tweedy at school and it's stuck to this day.
The Cat and Mutton, Mutton Lane and Sheep lane all relate to this part of Hackney being on the 'Black Path' - an ancient cattle and sheep drovers lane from the open country to Smithfield Market that corresponds with modern day Sylvester path, Martello street and Broadway Market
The Dolphin was open to 4am back in the day and we used to go there all the time. Back around 10 years ago. Big garden out the back.
I really enjoy the historical maps and newspaper articles. Very nice channel that I’ve just recently found and subscribed to.
Thank you! Very pleased to hear you enjoy the maps and newspaper clippings - I do sometimes worry some people might start to zone out at that point in the videos! Finding those old documents can often be the most fun part of making the videos for me - to begin with I just used those sources to try and prove or disprove claimed dates for when a pub was first established... but they often throw up interesting stories which really bring the history of the pub to life for me.
He's Defo got the provenance and diligence going for him and I subbed immediately today upon watching this,my first upload, I think he'll swipe aside the many who simply enter, have an ale then talk bollox about the locals. Plus I mentioned that YT promoted this to me and I only caught a single similar stream last week so I don't see him losing, best wishes to you all and England tomorrow night ⚽.🤗😎📚
I used to frequent the Pembury Tavern in Hackney in the early 1980's. I was a student. Every Thursday we went to Hackney College to do metalwork like electric arc welding which was great fun. At lunchtime I went across to the Pembury with my drinking buddy. We'd play pool and Space Invaders. But Thursday was also stripper lunchtime. The stripper would walk around the pub in a see through negligee with a jug pint collecting donations towards her stage act. The old men would sit in front of the stage wiping their spectacles clean to get a better view.
Say what you like about The Old Ship but on tuesdays you can get a whole roast chicken in there for £9. Yes, you read that correctly, £9.
Cheaper than a pint.
The Chesham Arms on the other side of the church green at Hackney Central was an excellent pub the last time I was there (eight or nine years ago). Maybe include it on a Clapton pub tour: from there to the Windsor to the Clapton Hart and to the Elderfield. Maybe the Royal Sovereign as well.
PS. Some of us like your pint of Harvey’s Best and also enjoy pale ales, IPAs, and prefer stouts/porters that aren’t Guinness.
Well done for not getting robbed.
I suspect most of them hadn't even got out of bed by the time I left Hackney.
I thought that too, as Hackney seems to have something of a 'reputation' for crime, assault etc...
It’s pretty safe tbh. Clearly not been to a proper rough area.
Tweedy strikes again ! Another great vid , thank you mate ✅
@@VincentComet-l8ethem days are long gone like Brixton nothing like the 80's
I used to drink in The Dolphin occasionally 20 years ago. It does have a nice interior - lots of tiling, iirc. It's use has changed since, as you say, as have a number of other pubs on Mare Street, and I'm too old now to feel comfortable in them. I occasionally drink in The Dove. In all my years living here, I have never set foot in The Cat and Mutton - it has always had a reputation for being too hipsterish (even more so than The Dove!). Interesting to see it has an upstairs, though. My local is the Perseverance, just over the canal bridge at the other end of Broadway Market (which bridge is called The Cat and Mutton Bridge). It has zero interesting features, unless you include some of the clientele.
whats the roughest pub in Hackney
The Blipple Nipple
The dolphin is a night club not really a pub now
You gave me a chuckle on this one Tweedy. Haven't seen you quite as forlorn and I do enjoy your subtly biting and humorous commentary when one is not quite up to standard. I'll strike off a pop in to this area and their ghastly citrus beers on my upcoming visit in October. Well done again.
Oh dear - I could feel your vexation here. I hope you weren’t tempted to get into a fracas over evolution. I wonder if it was just the business that the wife had a dislike for, or Hackney in general?!
This was a sterling effort and you provided lots of fascinating history, despite the disappointing decor and beer encountered. The Cock looked OK - I do like that 1930s vibe in such pubs, there’s a sort of spirit of optimism.
Also really enjoyed the bit about the Mermaid. Whilst it’s no longer there, I always find it fascinating working out the history of a building - the little shop infilling what had been the entrance to the stabling. The old Google Streetview from when the fabric shop remembered the pub’s name was my kind of thing too!
Glad you mentioned the damaged pillar at The Dolphin - it was the first thing I noticed there!
This video demonstrates your commitment to the cause. Hope you’ve recovered OK!
Thank you Mr WC21! Perhaps this is one of those outings I will remember more fondly in hindsight?
This felt a bit like a form of urban archaeology! What little vestiges remained of traditional pub architecture and interior design were generally very well buried in the grime and the hipster ephemera but I suppose that made them more gratifying to uncover.
Yes I found the Mermaid really caught my attention too - especially once I found that wonderful Hogarth-esque painting of 1811. It's such a riot of colour and it really looks like the attendees were having a great time. Hard to imagine that scene turning into the rather depressing streetscape we see today.
Interesting pubs, I know them all quite well; I take your point about the pronounced flavours of Citra & Galaxy hops however Five Points XPA, which I observed on one of the Hackney hand pumps, is a good example of these varieties. IMHO a bit more under control in this beer than others, and I think Five Points do produce quality beer, so please do try that beer as it is often crops up on the bar in London real ale pubs, and it is at least appealing to the Craft beer brigade. In fact I just checked and my local micro pub has it on right now, so I might even pop up there now for a quick pint of the stuff. As per below, the Pembury, a great real ale pub - be warned though you will encounter hipsters; but then there are worst tribes that inhabit pubs.
Lived near Mare Street circa 2006-10, the Dolphin changed irrevocably, becoming a pub/nightclub with a gazebo style outdoors. The Pembury Tavern might have been worth a visit, but it is a bit new-age hipster vibe. I used to drink in the Wishing Well at the top of Mare Street a lot, always fun.
I can remember a few years ago, searching for a RUclips Channel that covered this niche. Showcasing the atmosphere , stories and architectural details of historic pubs. At that time, a channel like that didn't exist and I was surprised by that, because I reasoned that surely I couldn't be the only one who wanted to see more coverage of these fascinating and richly historic buildings. I'm so incredibly glad that I stumbled upon Tweedy Pubs a few months ago. It is now one of my very favorite channels on the site.
Hi Tweedy, the sheep connection is that there is a drovers lane running through Hackney to the city, John Rogers walked it earlier in the year. ruclips.net/video/xFOoy5wPrWg/видео.html
The Pembury Arms is worth visiting for the vast number of kegs and the food. The Anchor and Hope on the canal is a friendly local Fullers "back street" pub, very lively at the weekend. Pub On The Park has it's odd wood carvings downstairs. The Virgin Queen has an lovely wood panelled interior. Last but not least, The Adam & Eve has an L-shaped pool table.
whats the roughest pub in Hackney
Thanks Steve - the droving routes make sense, I also saw hints of that in other nearby areas I've visited recently, like Hoxton and Islington.
I think there was also sheep farming in the area itself though. I did a quick newspaper search just now and found an article from 1742 that a man ninety years of age was "taken in the Marsh at Hackney for stealing of Sheep". You can see the fields (apparently marshy) around Hackney on John Rocque's 1746 map featured a few times in this video.
That also plays into the debate about whether or not the term "Hackney carriage" actually comes from Hackney - there are those who say Hackney was at one time a place where horses were reared, but others doubt this because the ground was too marshy, which is apparently not good for horses. Sheep don't mind marshy ground though - plenty of examples today of places like Romney Marsh where the tradition of sheep farming continues.
Think you mean the Pembury Tavern?
Tweedy, just came across your pub channel (and outdoors) and by far the best pub coverage I have seen in a long time. I’m from the USA and visit a ton of locals like yourself…making a map now of some of the ones you visit (including the Cock as I love the South Hampton Arms).
used to drink in the Horse & Groom on Mare street late 1970s... we used to call it the Remorse & Gloom but it was a proper lovely old place. Also the Royal Oak, used to go there to see Lily Savage, great place.
Thank you again Tweedy! For another video and on this occasion- taking one for the team to endure an adventure there!
To be fair, I recall many years ago enjoying an evening in the Dolphin, perhaps before it became too much of a 'club'. I do remember it having a decorative interior with the tiles, bar back and decorative wood dividers.
I also visited a bar area of the Hackney Empire once when a friend played there with her band. I remember that having some nice features, perhaps of the original theatre.
You just went to Mare street and London fields, there’s loads more to Hackney
I was focusing on historic Hackney - based on what would have existed at, say, the time of John Rocque's 1746 map.
@@TweedyPubs Half way down Hackney Rd the remnants of the Victorian Nags Head can be found, I have 1703 map showing an inn with the same name in same location.
God I love the pubs. The farther away from large urban centres the better. Beer on tap, drawn from the basement and the hot scran of the day.
I'm glad you bothered. It was interesting nonetheless. There were two personal familiar references contained within the video. One, my grandparents ran a pub called The Cock Inn in Norwich (now closed), and two, one of the historic articles about the Dolphin referred to Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, which was the town our family lived in from '68 - '73. Thanks!
Another enjoyable video. I do appreciate the historical research you do and pointing out the details on the buildings to us. It is depressing that so many interiors have become bleak and soulless. Your aversion to the dreaded grapefruit is always hilarious.
Thanks John! Yes I feel like we're in a real nadir for pub interior preservation. I get the sense there was another bad bout of it in the 1960s when there was a thirst for modernisation, and a lot of pubs lots their internal partitions. Then it felt like that calmed down a bit in the 70s and 80s... but then it flared up again in the 90s, probably in part due to all those home improvement shows on the TV.
I sometimes feel like I'm shouting into the wind when it comes to the scourge of grapefruit beer so it's nice that at least some people here appear to have similar sentiments! Yesterday at my local the three guest beers on the hand pumps were an "American IPA", an "American Pale Ale" and one simply labelled a pale ale (which on enquiring turned out to also be made with American hops). Grapefruit as far as the eye could see! Is it really too much to ask that a traditional English pub serves some traditional English beer?
@@TweedyPubs Absolutely, it did appear to gain momentum in the 90s, there were still plenty of nice characterful pubs in the 80s but many have gone or been ruined. God forbid, if we do lose them, at least we've got your record of what's left at the moment. And keep shouting about the terrible beer, three pumps of alcoholic grapefruit is really unacceptable!
(Lizard Lounge Radio) Haha, "A drunken argument about evolution." That sounds very familiar, had a few drunken discussions on this very topic over the years. Haha! Currently enjoying a pint of Doom Bar. Cheers!
At least you didn’t get stabbed.
Pembury Tavern is a decent pub with Five points ales. Chesham Arms is pretty good too.
Not too bad mate!!😂😂😂 Sacrifice in the name of education!!!
I’ve definitely seen a lot worse!! I love the sign outside The Cock, ‘proper strong cider and other refreshing things!’
Well done mate, keep up the good work!
I’m in Soho on Tuesday recreating a couple of your tours 👍 Thanks again
That was very interesting!
A tour round the historic pubs in a part of London I’ve never visited. Much enhanced by the erudite comments on the architecture, the interesting old maps and the press snippets from the 19th century (and earlier!)
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Thank you! New subscribers always very much appreciated and I'm happy to hear you like the format.
Good evening, Tweedy
I'm not really familiar with the Hackney area of London, but I'm always interested in seeing another area of London in your series.
Alias, being in my early sixties, I agree that these definitely look like the sort of establishments that cater for much younger people than me.
Like yourself, modern citrusy flavoured craft beers are not really to my taste but each to their own.
When I find myself in such establishments on odd occasions, it's usually time to grab a Guinness instead.
I always enjoy your historical facts and news on each pubs and it must take you some time researching various records.
For some reason, the name Cat and Mutton really appealed to me, and I was intrigued by the iron ceiling on the upper floor, too.
Happy pub hunting, and I look forward to your next video.
😁👍
Thanks Lee! I quite agree - each to their own. It would be very self centred of me to expect every single pub to cater solely to my tastes, and it's completely normal and appropriate that different pubs tailor their offering to different crowds.
...but it seemed like here in Hackney there wasn't a single pub with a genuine traditional interior serving traditional English beer. If I had found just one place serving a decent pint of bitter I would have been much happier!
Nice videos you have here! Good job 👍 Where I can find same honest review about pubs in Edinburgh?
That newspaper article at 9:18 is hilarious.
It's a bit special isn't it? Given that evolution was still a radical notion in the mid 19th century it is to be expected this was a bit of a contentious issue, but what's surprising is that it seems it was the pro-evolution guy who was the aggressor here!
Funny that they put a wager on it - the winner has to prove or disprove the existence of God basically, so difficult to know how it would have been settled if they hadn't gone for the violence option!
thank you, Interesting and informative, please don't give up on the east end, just down the road a bit from where you were is Bethnal Green and I would enjoy your analysis of those pubs... many to explore! Many no longer functioning but still quite a few still going strong.
Tweedy, you probably would have enjoyed south Hackney more - particularly the pubs adjacent to Victoria Park.
the duke of wellington in haggerston is a good pub
The Dolphin hotel letter regarding the licensing issues is signed John James Homer. I wonder if this name has any relation to the area of Homerton.
You are branching out into the sticks!! If you ever get up to Palmers Green I’d love to see what it looks like nowadays! Just outside Palmers Green station (overhead trains I think I used call them back in 1989) was a pub whose name escapes me. The fox and Hounds was up around there also, maybe further up the hill. Manhattan Bar down the road near the old Palmers Green bus depot must be long gone by now! I used also frequent a few hostelries in Turnpike Lane and the very odd time The good old Finsbury Park Tavern. Hackney was a tad dodgy even back in 1989 from what I remember. Great video 👍🏻
Thanks Seán! Palmers Green isn't an area I know but I'll take a look.
Still the bus garage is around and the Fox pub is still there . I would imagine a pint in Hackney would be £7!
Hi John, Well I enjoyed watching and seeing all the old news items and maps. It was well worth your visit. Thanks for sticking with it.
Do you come across any pubs still sticking with lounge and public bars? Its something that I remember from my old local.
All the best!!
Try The Two Worlds in Plumstead, won’t last long in there mate 😂😂😂😂
17:25 Beer stored in a warm place allegedly sours. I’ve read that the sour beers produced in Germany are often served with a syrup like raspberry or woodruff to offset some of the sourness.
Perhaps the landlord at the time was taking an entirely reasonable course of action after all then!
Enjoyed that. I got a real sense of place with this video. Have you added a second camera? I think I can detect a change in lens. The maps are great and very evocative and informative. That drunk tv-chef chap on the telly you like would be horrified by the half pints.
Thank you! I had always assumed you weren't particularly interested in London (understandably, let's face it I'd rather have been out in the countryside on this particular afternoon) so it feels like an honour that you've watched this, more so because I'm not sure I particularly enjoyed the outing!
When doing these pub videos I use my phone for the interior shots, as the GoPro struggles a bit indoors. Actually I use the phone for some of the exterior shots too, as my phone at least pretends to have a zoom (it doesn't really of course). If I were the sort of RUclipsr who took a bit more pride in his work I might attempt to colour correct all of the footage to compensate for that, but on this occasion I just wanted this to be over and done with!
I suspect Hackney would have been a far more visually appealing place in the 18th century, so on that level I agree with you - the maps were probably the best part of this!
I always fear my ability to communicate will deteriorate noticeably towards the end if I go to five pubs and drink a pint at each, and it might be a bit unfair on the final pub in particular in terms of my ability to give a fair assessment of its architectural merits... I doubt those sorts of petty concerns would have troubled Floyd!
Great video, I personally would also never set foot in a pub that has been turned into a dance club (not my vibe!) 10:45
It was nice to see the history as usual 🍻 cheers from Calgary
Great video, really enjoyed.
I’ve not spent a proper amount of time in Hackney, mostly to ramble through Broadway Market on a Saturday. The one pub I have ventured into is the one you chose not to do, The Crown. Not a bad place, decent interior, ok selection, and a surprisingly good pizza. The highlight (or lowlight) was the Old Ship. My wife was in the room when you flashed a picture of the interior and she muttered an expletive! We both laughed. Excellent video…well done…Cheers!!!🍻
Thanks Ed! Yes I probably should have gone into the Crown, and that might well have changed the tone of the whole video...
The sequencing in the video is a bit out of order: the bit where I was waiting around for the Dolphin to open was actually after I had been to the other four pubs Trying to kill time in Hackney really seemed to instill in me a sense that I didn't belong there!
Your wife sounds like a keeper!
I sort of think John Betjeman would extend his exhortation about Slough today.
Your camera lens is set to Fish Eye. Videos would look better if it was set to Linear.
The Cock Tavern is a great pub, and well worth the visit. As well, The Pembury Tavern is a good spot. Thanks for sharing Hackney
Not watched this one yet Tweedy but I must say, I am looking forward to this immensely. I can only imagine the Sour Beer, Citrus Radlers and 'punk IPA's' that you had to rightfully, disdainfully ignore on this quest. Well, at least you were not plagued by a horde of flying ants on this venture. Or were you?
Your predictions about the beer were pretty much on the money! No flying ants yet this year - somehow it's the middle of June but summer still feels like a very distant prospect!
Another great video! I suspect I’d have a bit of a better time in Hackney than you did…I saw a lot to like on the taps at The Dove.
I'm not nearly as averse to Belgian beer as I am to those grapefruitey pale ales - I just need to be in the right frame of mind! If I had walked through the door thinking "this is a Belgian beer bar" I could probably have had a great time but after a series of slightly disappointing pubs beforehand I was hankering for a traditional English pub at that point!
Agree with you on the cock tavern, come autumn and winter they have some great dark ales. Perhaps give the Pembury Tavern go it's about 10 minutes walk from the cock and brew their own beers one of my favourites being Railway Porter
You were moments from the The Chesham Arms - missed a trick there.
Thank you, Tweedy, for 'taking a hit for the team', as they say.
Appreciated! Not a very fun outing but I guess there's something satisfying about being able to say I'm not really a fan of what Hackney has to offer on the pub front from a point of experience rather than just lazily dismissing it based on hearsay.
Bleak - well done for persevering!
Did you get change out if a tenner for a pint!
Hi Tweedy, I think it was definitely worth going to Hackney. I think you went to some good pubs and outside of weekday lunch time they're busy and lively. I think you missed a trick at The Dove though and should have gone for Belgian Ale of the Trappist or monkish persuasion. Those Belgians make fantastic beers. I wonder if Tweedy would ever do a craft beer pub crawl?? I think you're just not trying the right beers and we could bring you to the craft side! 🤪
Yes I think with Belgian beers my hesitance is more down to lack of knowledge rather than having any particular aversion... Although I would much rather enjoy learning about them in Belgium rather than here! When in Rome and all that. As for a "craft beer pub crawl" though I think that highly unlikely. 😁
@@TweedyPubs 😂 Appreciate all the research and effort into your videos.
I was going to re-write the Stones song as follows, but I guess I can't after watching: "Now he gets his kicks in Hackney not in Knightsbridge anymore..."
I think I would have been happier in Knightsbridge - I suppose both areas have seen big changes over the last few decades, but at least in Knightsbridge there has been some recognition (albeit it probably from a cynical commercial perspective) that it was worth preserving some of the pubs, to cater to the tourists.
@@TweedyPubs Glad to hear they're preserving them in Knightsbridge even if it's just for tourist folk like me haha. Millions across the globe have an interest in London as it's a true "World City." Keep up the great work. Thanks!
@@argopunk I have lived in London nearly 20 years but I wasn't born and raised here so I still feel a bit like a tourist sometimes!
@@TweedyPubs Based on your knowledge, it might as well be 200 years. Good for you.
Here's a London tourist observation you may find interesting: About ten years ago, I found what looked like a real neighbourhood pub in Bloomsbury.
I walked in and the whole place went silent. I'm a pretty solidly-built guy, and I noticed the "hard man" of the pub staring intently at me as I approached the bar. I ordered a pint and once everyone heard my "American" accent (Canadian), they all relaxed. I was wearing a sporty polo shirt that apparently had the wrong colours for that pub hence their concern.
Clearly I know nothing about British football pub protocol. The places you explore seem to be without that issue.
Astounding knowledge/research
Mr Tweedy,reviews of pubs in Tottenham N15/N17 in future
The ghostsigns website believes that the Gardiner & Lacey signage is from one of their shops that closed in the 1950s.
Great video. Thanks.
The motoring equivalent of these pubs are SUVs.
I can picture an SUV owner draping their German brand name keyring on the bar as they order a Chardonnay and start talking about how much their house has risen in value
That all looked pretty grim to be honest. Not an area of London i know well and i doubt i will be dashing east any time soon. Cheers Tweedy.
Those pubs and their clientele would fit in well in Camden.
It's an interesting observation - I don't live too far from Camden Town, but I hardly ever go to any of the pubs there. I suppose there are parallels in that both areas seem to be heavily focused on some kind of "youth" culture, but I think the average Hackney-ite would consider Camden deeply uncool, and vice verse.
@@TweedyPubs Reminded me of the pubs in a Joolz vid about Camden.
whats the roughest pub in Hackney
Eagle, wick road if anywhere these days. Shakespeare or the salmon just up the road in Bethnal Green still have an edge
9:22 Enjoyed reading about the beer fuelled Creationist v Darwinist punch up in the Old Ship...
I'm actually surprised to see there are pubs still in Hackney. Last time I went there it looked like a bit of elsewhere, but not English anymore.
It's been gentrified by the mostly white middle classes for a good few years now
Torture! Nearly 2AM & I saw this & watched 33 seconds. Struggling to keep my eyes open! Imagining grapefruit torture for our hero - but must wait for the weeekend to watch!
Oh you're not missing much - unless you enjoy the pub equivalent of a horror movie!
Hackney is not like the old Hackney people think of when they hear the name Hackney.
I’ve got loads of family in E5, E8 and E9. I grew up in north London but I know Hackney very well. It used to be a shit hole, but now it’s gentrified to fuck, which is not always a bad thing, but sometimes can be. All my family over that side luckily own their homes which are all worth a million and more. It’s still got its shit bits, like any area in London. But if you keep your self to yourself an do not look for trouble you will have a good life. One of my family members recently inherited his parents house, the house next door recently got sold for 1.3 million. These old London houses are crazy, masssssive basements which could be two massive rooms or decent sized flat. 100 foot garden, then 3 floors above it to do as you wish. If these houses are getting sold for 1.3 million now, what’s it going to be like in 20/30 years. The house that’s was inherited was bought £3500 back in day. Madddd come up.
It was an interesting tour. I am surprised that the blue haired people haven't demolished all the pubs. Hackney is too degenerate a place for me, but it is nice to see that some pubs survive.
I felt very out of place there, and although I try very hard to not get political in these videos, yes the "blue haired people" as you put it were a big part of that.
The autophobic, woke smotherloves and joy killers. These creatures don't want anyone to be happy...they want parity of misery.
Were you passing Harrods on your bycycle yesterday Tweedy we think we spotted you?
BRING BACK THE PINT OF WINE!
I had many a messy night in The Dolphin.
You're lucky to be alive !
Ok, “Cat and Mutton” for me, if only due to its name.
Cat n mutton in the 1980s brilliant 👏
Funny channel cheers.👍
great vid
The Dolphin tavern is one of the nastiest pubs in London! The one you go to late at night when everything else is closed and you dont have the sense to go home. The Ship is over priced, and more of a restaurant on the weekend for the types who moved to Hackney but would rather live in Fulham if they could afford to.
Perhaps you should had visited the star of Hackney downs
Liked the Dove but Cock Tavern was the best, great beer selection. Sympathy with the closed Dolphin..I made 2 attempts in pollenca to film a certain bar and shut twice( 4 wasted bus jorneys)😂 worth doing was Hackney John👍
Thanks Dave! Yes the Cock Tavern definitely the best of the bunch here.
Ah yes, Hackney, for all those wishing to see how ugly London can get!
Perhaps I just hit it at a bad moment - it was a grey day and a weekday lunchtime after all - and maybe somebody who knew the area better might have chosen some nicer bits I missed... but what I did see I found mostly pretty grim.
Most of the better pubs open at 4 in Hackney. Guessing that affected your crawl
Lost world
Mixed bag around there have to agree with those grapefruit ales are not for me either give me a old peculiar or the likes any day 🍻
"aggravated assault... originated in a drunken argument about evolution" boy the 19th century must have been a hell of a time
Knife capital of London.
Dianne Abbott is the MP
Excellent MP too far better than Johnson the Clown
I'm voting for Diane Abbott. She came to defend the privatisation of our nurseries outside Hackney Town Hall a few months back. I really liked her.
Who knows about the lord cecil?
Rather depressing
It was a bit! Perhaps the weather didn't help, it was very grey, and I'm sure the atmosphere in the pubs would have been very different in the evening, rather than a weekday lunchtime... All of that said, I can't really say I'd be keen to go back to Hackney.
15:58 Man bun alert
Hackey is a wasteland! The only thing you will find there is someone trying to mug you !
You're joking!....the only way you'd get mugged is by a yuppie in the many trendy coffee bars!
@@DamoSuzuki66 The sense I got is that both of these realities bizarrely co-exist in Hackney today.
Your views are 30 years out of date
First and best comment
Why would you drink alcohol?
i can't watch anything english anymore,too depressing
That drive by shooting ...hmmm
""Diversity Is Our Strength"".......Not.
Lower clapton road aka murder mile. North Hackney is now referred to by estate agents as the district named Cazanove....attempting to fool the buyer.😊😊😊😊
Hackney is where you go if you find women like Diane Abbott attractive.
Hackney is where you go if you want to find an MP who represents her constituents, and has done for the last 30 years.
Think perhaps you need to approach a pub, as a pub. It's a pub, anyone can drink there, go and have a drink. Also maybe talk to people in the pubs, it's good to talk to people you don't know in pubs.
Excellent but not Hackney haha watching the video about the bell inn and the drew arms much better than the pubs of Hackney 😁😁👏👍thanks
Yes I can't personally recommend Hackney if you have a similar taste in pubs to me - but I'm sure some people have a good time here!
@@TweedyPubs true haha
Posh snobbery this