C.J. Stroud wanted to see the Bears do more to help Justin Fields
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- Опубликовано: 2 май 2024
- C.J. Stroud and Micah Parsons talk the Bears giving up on Justin Fields.
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Micah understands the bigger picture here. Fields had 2 different GMs. One entirely screwed up the Bears and Fields situation. The other really liked Fields but when we’re talking about contracts (plus this being a potential generational talent) how could he pass on that situation? If Caleb is a bust, less people will blame Poles than if Fields was another year bust.
Can we stop calling Fields a generational talent? Dude is a bust. It isn't going to work. He can't understand an NFL offense nor defense. He truly needs to run out of the pocket in order for things to work. So basically defenses just need to close off the edge and make him throw. Game set match
@@Richard-gw2lrYou get confused in hate. Who is calling Fields a generational talent?
@@Richard-gw2lr who is calling fields a generational talent? If you could read you’d see he was talking about Caleb
@@Richard-gw2lrcaleb williams surely ain’t no generational talent if Field isn’t!! Let’s just give it up to Mahomes since he’s the one who’s been consistently winning where it matters most. Fuck it
@@Richard-gw2lrnobody ever called fields a generational talent😂yapping just to yap
This is exactly why I look at fans crazy when players look after themselves first. These teams will do whatever is best for them with no regard for the players
Ryan Poles didn’t draft Fields, he had no loyalty to him.
@@dantelabella9753 you are just proving my point even more. Thanks
@@koreynickerson5086 that’s not proving your point. You might’ve said something smart if it was Ryan poles who drafted him.
@@dantelabella9753 no you proved his point, he is the GM and it doesn’t matter if he drafted him or not, he isn’t trying to be his dad, just manage the roster, but his loyalty is to the team first and it showed, that’s all.
There were better offers for the Fields trade that Poles could have taken but he bit the bullet and sent Justin to Pittsburgh cuz that's where he wanted to go. He didnt owe that to Justin but gave him that courtesy anyway
Cj an Micah is the duo I never thought I needed
Why because they are defending Justin Fields.
@@lachanjoscales1682 what? Dude you a troll idgaf about fields man.
Hey you a troll idgaf about Boy George Williams.
Facts they got chemistry I’d like Devonta smith as another head up in there
Kennan and Kell
Bears Nation wishing Justin the very best. Hopefully he finds himself in the best situation long term.
Yes
Bro he’s a backup QB. He was never gonna be something lol I don’t get bears fans. CJ Strout yappin cuz fields was an OHIO buckeye. Justin fields wouldn’t know what to do. Justin would be more confused than CJ
@@georgekillmer6023 all that yammering and you change nothing I said.
better hope caleb williams , is that guy, man played in a weak college conference and couldn't go undefeated or lead his team to a national championship while, field played for ohio and lead his team to the chip. u guys will be back looking for a qb in the draft in 3 years
Hopefully he whoops the bears ass lol won't take much
I love CJ more just bc of this
And I despise Bustin more for this!!! 🏈 F*** this CULT!!!!
Context for those who don't know college football: CJ played behind Justin for a bit in college so they were teammates and CJ just wants the best for bro and the Bears key didn't put him in the best situation as a Bears fan.(love Caleb tho)
Correct... this is coming from a guy who saw in person that Justin was a better qb than he was and he's being lauded for having one of the best rookie seasons ever.
Fields isn’t a good quarterback. Stop praising mediocrity.
@@wolfmanj12 There's literally always a dumbass in the comments and you almost disappointed me lol. All these pros telling you and your couch coach ass still came in here to prove idiots exist Lol.
Cut the bull shit Justin fields is NOT BETTER THAN CJ STROUD BY A LONGSHOT JUSTIN FIELDS IS TRASH and I'M A HUGE BEARS FAN GLAD WE GOT RID OF HIM AND HE'S ON PITTSBURGH
Gayleb is fkng dogwater were cooked
I like both perspectives, one is personal but insightful with truth to it because that’s his guy & another is unbiased and see it for what it is while still agreeing with the first persons thoughts
Micah is spot on. Fields was drafted by a GM who put the Bears into a massive hole. The only way for the new GM to pull them out of that hole was to trade whatever talent they did have and essentially tank for capital for a couple of season.
Exactly. Justin unfortunately got drafted by a lame duck GM and coach hoping that the rookie QB woudl save their jobs. Then the new guys came in and did what they had to do to rebuild the team. Fields did what he could but ultimately was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Also fields wasn’t good at throwing the ball…which is kinda important for a QB
Fields is a dude who doesn't know his place in the league yet. I think he can rip it. But a winning qb in the league? Fuck no.
@@kylehinnenkamp5973 anyone who understands football, would not say Fields couldn't throw ball.
He was a 50% deep passer, which was among the best in the league. He got better every year....you can look up his numbers.
The issue is folks like the comment above. We get the "why" but the Bears then put out a narrative that they could win with no talent, and you have people like the comment above who still judge Justin on his time in Chicago.
Had they been honest and defended him at least, he could have a fair shake at consideration.
Thank you Cj for telling it like it is
I'm a bears fan but cj is easy to root for because he's a baller! Probably one of the best rookie QBs I've ever seen.
Dude looked so posed Houston is lucky but so are we Caleb is gonna ball out!
The GM & Coach decided on Caleb after winning the Heisman his sophomore year. Justin had no chance with those guys. They never gave Justin a center, the only receiver they gave him was DJ Moore. We went a whole season with just Mooney at receiver....They half ass with Justin but rolled out the red carpet for Celeb!!! Chicago love Justin Fields!!
Regardless caleb is so much better
No he's not lol
Thank you CJ for saying what some people was thinking. Bears ruined Fields
F*** Bustin!!! He’s a BUM!!🏈
Stop acting like a BOT lol @@tk2fly3d
@@tk2fly3djust say fuck
@@tk2fly3dwhy
@@tk2fly3dcalling someone better than you at the sport a bum is rich, it’s like the people that called Brian Scalabrine trash
CJ spoke nothing but facts here
“Justin never had a bad season” ISN’T a fact
@@ClutchGeneit is… he did the most with less than anyone in the league.
@@Joe-ir5yyBro don't even reply to fools cus buddy don't know the ends and outs of football. Because all he sees is who is on the field playing and don't understand to be successful in the NFL especially as a QB you need the entire organization to be on the same page so the QB can develop right and be successful for years to come for whatever team the QB plays for.
Boy justin ain't it
@@grindn10101 yeah ok
Justin Fields and Russell Wilson just need to now kick ass in Steeler nation that's all.
But Steelers ain’t got a oline either yall banking on rookies to protect Russ blind side which is crazy And unsteeler like
Yesi a bears game my dad is a Steelers fan go J Fields
🤡
@@thehandyfamily4807you sound dumb asf the Steelers o line is not even bad they still have their 1 round pick tackle from last year and I’m a chiefs fan
@@thehandyfamily4807 Steelers oline isnt that that bad it's the other issues they got that holds them so far down, they trusted Pickett for so long so it looked like the oline was bad but he just didn't evade pressure ever.
It’s crazy how the media almost always just blames the players. They are afraid to hold front offices accountable.
I really enjoy listening to CJ and Micah. That dude CJ has such a good head on his shoulders. Can’t wait to see him when he’s 34 and signifying his era with continued excellence on and off the field!
Bears fan and Justin Fields fan. He was unfortunately drafted 3 years too early.
Im glad I wasn't the only one thinking that!!!!!! Salute CJ!!! Micah had a valid point as well. Justin is in a stable organization and he good now
Yes they added DJ Moore who is a good receiver obviously, but purdy and tua have 1) offensive lines and 2) organizations that are not playing musical chairs with their head coaches and coordinators. This is the stability that CJ is eluding to.
It's like a group of people going to work and you constantly change leadership over and over, and then the company is like "hey we've decided to add a new agent, account manager, etc." without having the leadership in place. Is justin without fault in this? No, but we can't sit here and say adding DJ moore is supposed to solve anything. Plus, tua and purdy have way more weapons than Fields does.
EDIT: this was supposed to be a reply to a comment. Idk why this ended up here lol
Still facts 😂
Fields isn’t a starter in the league. He will right where he should be in Pittsburgh as a backup
But also Purdy showed brilliance in the off season before all of the noise he made. Kyle even called it out Purdy was better than Trey and Jimmy. Also look Purdy might be a QB who can won multiple rings by the end of his career. Also niners doesn't have a O line my man if you watch football you would know such a simple fact. People believe because we have Trent we have a stacked O line. We are a bottom middle tier O line at best. Purdy is able to scramble 90% of the time because that is what he excels at. Fields doesn't know how to read defenses and can't throw dimes. Fields just isn't a star. He can be a backup definitely. He might be able to pick up some extra wins while a QB goes down. But anybody with a brain knows fields isn't doing anything at the helm. Its like saying Jimmy G can go start on Kansas City and replicate what mahomes can do.
When the hell did Purdy have a top O-line? Bruh, just cuz Big Trent is the LT doesn't mean the rest are good. 49ers O-line was ranked bottom 20 last season. Without Trent, even worse.
49ers o line wasn’t good this year tho
Facts, they did Justin dirty…
He did himself dirty!!!
@@tk2fly3d no he did not… he was not bad, just played in a shitty system that didnt fit him and they did not even try to set him up for succes.
They tore down and rebuilt. JF was a victim of circumstances. And as Poles said once. Tge QB that should get the huge tag is the one you win because of. JF still couldn't process in a timely manner. And to me thats sucks 😢, I love that kid.
@@brezzywrldif fields doesn’t beat out Russell Wilson & win games with the Steelers, you better stop nut riding him
@@dantelabella9753 Huh?? Its a fact tho? They did him dirty.
This vid needs to go viral!! As a Bears fan first I do feel that Justin never received that structure. Now let's say the Bears don't do well this season and they don't renew the head coach's contract. Then the cycle continues. I don't understand why not upgrade at head coach if we claim we want the best at every position.
The don't believe in hiring experienced coaches
That QB draft class got a raw deal. Even Mac Jones had a new offensive coordinator every year for 3 years. He probowled his rookie season.
It’s wild how that class was supposed to be generational and only TLaw is left looking like an actual QB. Pretty insane that many missed
@@A_EasleyI wouldn’t even say Tlaw is all that people put him out to be
Pro Bowler as like a 5th alternate.
Caleb Williams had a great situation. Justin Fields had a awful situation. However, there have been players like Trey Lance we have had great situations and failed and players like Jared Goff, who have had awful situations and succeeded. Ultimately, you got a make it on your own.
Lol what success did Jared Goff have? He was ass since traded to Detroit lol
@@katiecaddle209 i think winning a division, making it to NFC championship game and throwing for 4500 yards with 30+ TD's is very successful. very few QB's in the history of the NFL actually have seasons like that.
its like saying "unless a business person is elon musk then they arent successful".
so i dont know if you are a troll or just low IQ? maybe a bit of both?
He’s absolutely right
Everyone in Chicago wanted this for Justin. They had to get things right while he was the quarterback. Justin paid for our shortcomings.
Because Ryan poles did not draft Justin fields.
Ryan pace did.
There’s only 4 starting QBS in the entire league with a GM that didn’t draft or acquire the teams starting QB via free agency
Daniel Jones
Kyler Murray
Bryce Young
Justin Herbert
Bottom line: GMs want their own guy.
That doesn't mean or make it right
Ryan Poles has made a point to revamp the entire roster. Justin Fields played well the last 5 to 6 games of the season. D.J. Moore had his best statistical season playing with Justin Fields. D.J. didn't have productive games with Tyson Bagent as the QB. Justin is a legitimate starting NFL QB.
@@thechannel2398 TRUE
As a Bears fan CJ hit the nail on the head. Why didn’t they he Fields these weapons.
Unfortunately, Fields got the short end of the stick on a team with very few building blocks. Poles had no choice but to strip the roster limp-from-limp to build a contender for the foreseeable. People still can't seem to comprehend that.
They could've easily put Fields on a Love type extension, paid less than they'll be paying Williams and ended up with several more blue chip players on rookie contracts and more future draft capital that could be parlayed into a QB in the 26' class if Justin didn't became an MVP contender with the improved coaching and offensive skill players and line
@@johnostro7153 you forgot to mention the part where Fields just wasn't good in own respects. Turning down open receivers, holding onto the ball longer than anyone, turning over the football more than anyone else since he was drafted, throwing a flat-out inaccurate football, etc. There are currently four starting QBs who were either drafted or signed by the same regime. Teams want their guy. Love and Fields situations aren't remotely comparable and they fall under different representations. Mario Nunez won't settle for his clients. It's quality over quantity and I'm not settling for mediocrity with a guy that doesn't have ties to his latest regime. This was the correct move.
@@johnostro7153 the next couple of draft classes are BOOTY CHEEKS. Why prolong the inevitable for someone's who's clearly limited in his ability? Fields need some serious development if he’s to ever compete for a starting spot anywhere.
I wish it was Justin
You guys have a better QB on a cheaper contract for 5 years what is there to complain about💀
Never seen a qb get more excuses than Justin, he’s not good
@@beannibbabest comment ever, what are these Cult folks looking at!! It’s ridiculous!!!
Y'all talk more shit about Justin than Mac Jones that garbage ass Zack Wilson or Trey Lance you're going to see him flourish in Pittsburgh
Country living Hampshire Illinois for Trump 2024.
Im happy the Bears got Caleb. I hate how they did Fields. They didnt do half of what they did for Caleb. My hometeam does a good job of making me hate it, man. Smdh.
Fields definitely got the short end of the stick and had a really unfortunate rookie where everyone knew Nagy and Pace would be fired next year so it really made no sense to keep them, just a terrible ownership decision but lets not act like Fields was too good to trade away. Theres a reason he was traded for a 6th. I watched every Fields game, rooting for him year after year and he cannot read a defence at all or throw over the middle. Tremendous athlete and runner but a bottom 10 qb. Still tons of potential and i hope he tears it up in Pittsburg.
If Fields was "the guy" the bears would gladly trade away the number 1 for an even bigger haul last year and continue to build around Fields. He simply wasnt good enough to pass on a top 5 qb prospect in the last decade.
Ok I like your take but let's be real.... Who he had to throw too? Who was his QB Coach or the game coordinator to put him in a position to win games. Like you said you saw his game but did you really? The guy numbers in the first 3 quarters was awesome but he has the worst 4 quarter numbers in the league. Like you calling rpo in the 4 quarter. That guy wasn't a a RPO TYPE OF GUY IN COLLEGE. Like why every QB who can run has to be in that formation? He's a good QB it showed in college. Trevor got the players around him went to the playoffs Mac Jones had the pieces went to the playoffs Zack Wilson had a good team he just suck but Justin didn't get a shot like CJ is saying so they ruined Justin that's why Steelers got a steal in a 6 round trade. Steelers are going to do what's right by Justin because he'll have a vet to give him advice and better coaching staff than the bears. The bears want to sell tickets by drafting celeb because he's a Heisman winner so I understand but the bears are not good enough to turn them around.
@@desmondmadden6433 right no Qb is succeeding with multiple head coaches, coordinators. Donte pettis, Mooney and lesser weaker St brown brother at Wr 1, 2 &3.
@@Keijoker like those guys are second string players maybe 3rd option players like you could have grab him something if you really wanted to win. They saw Caleb in college and already made their minds about losing every game and that's my take on it.
They took Justin without a plan and were bare af on that roster. Used him to get where they wanted to go and since he wasn’t what he should’ve been they folded on him. Tough but it happens
It’s exactly what the panthers did to Bryce last year. No plan, no nothing
@@thebroglefamily3992 yes sir! And it’s exactly what pats should try NOT to do. Fortunately this year was rare and no young QB went
To a team in Chicago’s situation . Everybody for the most part is surrounded by talent
Edit: and/or good coaching
The bears had a terrible OC in Getsy.
@@mrshakeback9649 Pats probably will actually try with their new guy, they seem committed to him very well.
I’ve said this all off season long, but I’m a Steelers fan so I’m kinda glad they didn’t fully invest in him because we will
I agree with CJ 100%!!
Sad
They could have got major draft capital for that first round pick and help Fields. Every year he improved. Caleb has everything needed to succeed and if he dont then that is on him.
I agree Mr. Stroud!
It really is mind boggling that Chicago decided to wait for Caleb to come along before acting like a real franchise
they're doing it with him though, he's just a escape route to act like there's a attempt at bettering the team, Caleb has high chances of flopping not cause he's bad but because he has awful mentorship and leaders.
Justin Fields is exactly where he is supposed to be. The Steelers got a plan for Justin and I can not wait to see how it all plays out.
I agree with CJ Stroud . I am Ohio State Buckeyes fan and it’s sad to see that Justin Fields couldn’t get the same help as Caleb Williams.
As a Bears fan my prediction is we will see JF1 again and it will be a respectful battle, and us true bear fans are going to love it
Chicago traded away picks to bring in Claypool. Didn’t work. They passed on the #1 pick to bring in DJ Moore. It’s time to face the fact that FIELDS SUCKS.
I agree, field’s is garbage
Cj the goat fr
If caleb doesn't have a stroud type season, he underachieved 💯
CJ Stroud is a standup dude. I think I’m a Texans fan now
Poles choosing to go forward with Caleb and trading Justin was his best move for the team but just as important, Poles insures his job for the next 3 years, even if Caleb under performs.
Eagles did the same after 2017 with Carson. Then soon as they got rid of Wentz, they started making so many moves to help build around Jalen.
Absolutely right about that CJ Stroud bears won the draft can't wait to see what he does.🏈
Did anybody watch Fields play? When he did get decent protection, he stared down his hot receiver too long nullifying his #2's split second window that he had to get open. After 2 seconds he gets paranoid and drops his eyes and looks for a hole. Fields hardly ever kept his eyes downfield while in the pocket. Good QB's have good peripheral vision and move throughout the pocket while keeping there eyes on a receiver who is dashing across the field to an open spot! Also, watch the All-22 and you'll notice that he gets flustered easily and misses wide open receivers! I don't care if he had 3 of the best receivers; he doesn't throw with good anticipation nor can he process progressions quickly!
What pocket?? Jones was almost always getting handled. Again what POCKET??
CJ is so much better at being an NFL QB its ridiculous. Stroud didnt have crap around him but showed hes a legitimate NFL QB, if Fields was any good we would know it, see Stroud.
C.J speaking facts
Feelings aside, they did everything they should have done to get the Bears players and organization where they are today. JF was a casualty of that. It's that simple.
Scapegoat **
Herbert had 3 different OC nd 2 hc aswell hes light years ahead of fields stroud just tryna protect his friend
Fax been saying that they gone regret it
Exactly the bears should of done this for fields
Exactly
Then he makes $40+ million in 2025 and the Bears have to get rid of some of the guys they picked up in 2024 to get better. What's Fields going to do with great receivers? He doesn't keep his eyes downfield long enough when he senses pressure. He drops his eyes and begins to look for a hole to run in! I liked Fields athleticism, but he can't process through progressions quickly in the pocket and stares down his hot receiver too long. Even if Marvin Harrison Jr. was his #2, he would hardly ever get the ball because Justin doesn't look off #1 quick enough. By the time he progressed to #2, the coverage would have caught back up already and is no longer open. This is why only one receiver last year had a productive year because most of Justin's throws were to his #1 target on those plays!
@@joeanderson444 they worked on fixing the OL for CW and not for Fields. I watched the games. The OL was patchwork.
The OL was constantly collapsing.( Most from the blindside). I analyzed this on most pass plays.
Another thing is the awful route combinations. Getsy designed routes that didn't get separation. Former Qb, JT O'Sullivan has commented on this. Getsy was a horrible Inexperienced OC, who never called plays in the NFL.
Fields' "processing" is fine. That's just a new way to say he's not smart, which would be a lie.
And in terms of money....what do you think is gonna happen when CW's rookie contract is up?
Ownership could've done a Jordan Love type contract with Fields when he time came.
Ownership has to quit being cheap. This resetting of contracts with Qb's has to stop. Overall... Poles always wanted his own QB... regardless. This was unfortunate for Fields.
@@mcfact1827 Factual all around.
@@marionluigi6517 👍👍
this is the first time im hearing these two agree with eachother instead of arguing and i dont know how to handle it
The Bears Shouldn't Have Traded Justin, He Is Low Key One Of The Most Dangerous QB's In The League 💯
Idk about most dangerous yet, but he does have very very high potential that was just thrown away.
Lions HC Dan Quinn said he was glad Fields was gone.
Fields hurt teams win with his play making abilities.
Because we weren’t in the same position as this year, these past years.
I know that's CJ's guy but what he's saying makes no sense and he doesn't understand the big picture of how things work. Poles didn't draft Fields and he just got caught in a situation that was bad timing for him. Poles couldn't do for Justin what he's doing now to set his team up for long term success period!
The bears giving Caleb what they should have gave Justin
Both can be true - the Bears didn't support Fields enough (changing coaching staff, the roster teardown), and he didn't progress enough as a passer.
Micah made the best point
Fields took over a playoff team, and won 7 games in 3 seasons. He has over 60 turnovers in 3 seasons. For advanced stats he had 35 score worthy plays, and 87 turnover worthy plays. 87. It took drew brees about 7 years to get that many. Fields sucks, point blank period.
Resetting the timeline was also key. Now they’re starting to amass a quality and expensive core, and a Fields extension would have made it harder to do so as much as he may of improved.
Poles did the right thing for the franchise and tried to do right by Justin but it’s also not his fault that Pace and Nagy never gave Fields the chance he deserved. I think this worked out best for everyone now that he can thrive in Pittsburgh and Chicago’s got their guy in a really nice position.
Both make good points. Stroud is looking at it from a human and personal level, which should be put into consideration. But Micah gets the real picture. Caleb gives them a fresh rookie contract rather than having to extend Fields after 1 more season. Unfortunately they don't think like Stroud does, they only care about the bucks.
Context matters. Good stuff fellas
The crazy thing is, Fields career might be over now. He isnt going to start in Pittsburg over Wilson. Now his contract is up. Do they sign Fields? If they do it has to be at a backup price and contract. He could maybe one day play as the starter but the chances are slim. I fully expect Pittsburg to draft a QB in 2025. The Bears totally screwed him. He had no talent around him and Luke Getsy sucked as a Offensive Coordinator. I get drafting Caleb because of the money but I really feel like Fields was hurt by this team. Although, even backups are still millionaires so its not like he is losing in life.
Nah in regular life fields probably will be fine at least. But as a player the bears fucked him over big time.
My boys!!!
Even if you didn't draft the guy your job is to make the team better now not 3 years in the future.
Huh?!!!!
That was a dumb comment. You make the team better for the future as well. They did that by resetting the QB clock with a better QB. 😂
They did fields dirty but at the same time they had a horrible cap situation, a bunch of overpaid defensive players, and no draft capital. Once they finally got everything situated it was just bad timing, which sucked for fields. Wanted him to work but it’s Caleb’s time now.
It's more about the money and timeline. Justin is gonna be fine 👊🏽🐻⬇️
I thought he was talking about Justin Herbert until I started reading the comments
As a bears fan I miss fields I hope Caleb Williams is good
He should worry about his own team, let's see if he makes the playoffs, sometimes you just have to make the changes you need until you get it right.
I shared the same points as CJ here and understand what Micah is saying as well. I thought the Bears could have traded down a couple picks: to get MHJr and a good lineman or something. Combine that with the Allen pick up, daing.
they both had good points
That's how I feel basically if you fire the g. M, you might as well trade the quarterback at the same time
The steelers hit the jackpot for sure.
Respect to Cj he says what everyone is thinking.i know a lot of fans who would’ve took Justin fields for a second round pick easy
lmao too bad these fans weren't GM's of other teams around the league. The league spoke and the market was weak.
@@jroe25yt8 some keep using that "league spoke" term. There were others interested. Fields' camp choose Pittsburgh
And that's the question 60% of Bears fans are asking. I hope they didn't ruin this kid's career....and if they don't invest heavily in that o-line, Caleb's going to be running for his life too. 🤷🏾♂️
Stroud is probably the future face of the NFL...
As a Lions fan we feared Justin Fields whenever we played the Bears. What he can do with his legs is insane. Like CJ said, if you had put this team around Fields, maybe you would have seen better results 🤷🏾♂️. He rushed for 1000 yards as a QB, he was a difference maker. He will tap into that potential in Pittsburgh 💯
See what GreenBay says about him. Just because he played well against you guys doesn’t mean he was the right QB for the Bears. Hell, every Bears QB does well against Detroit. The fact is, Poles didn’t draft Justin and Justin wasn’t good enough to pass on either of the top 3 Quarterbacks in this year's draft. Remember, Poles passed on CJ last year himself! There was no way Poles could do that again. You also couldn't put much talent long-term around Fields because he was going to have to be paid. Getting a rookie resets the clock to build for the long term.
Poles did the right thing.
Ryan pace did the shitty job of drafting jf1 in that mess. Poles tried his best by getting the team out of the mess, but things like that take time. Jf1s rookie contract was almost up, so poles had no choice but to draft a rook if he wanted to be a contending team now and for the future
Facts!!! They f@,cled over Justin Fields , they do the same to Caleb 🙄
It took Poles 3 years to get rid of bloated contracts and being over the cap, having limited draft capital due to previous GMs mortgaging everything, and playing out the draft with quality players. Bears were in no position and could not afford this before this year.
Williams is for sure an upgrade and makes more financial sense.
O snap, he do the nail thing too.. figured OSu types softtttt
I understand both sides.. but to me you can never compare the two in level of success.. caleb comes into a much more stable offense & offensive coordinator.. 3 elite Wr to 1.. a elite 2 te set. 3 elite rb. So when you have so many options compared to little options..but business wise i get it
CJ is the professional but he asked that asinine question just like an ignorant fan - Ryan Poles had to shed the bad contracts in his first year, then in his second year he traded away the number one pick and got Justin Fields a true number one alpha receiver in DJ moore, used his number one pick for the arguably the best tackle in the draft, had a receiver in Mooney who previously put up an 1100 yd season and had no way of knowing that he would regress that much. Trade it for two crafty and speedy receivers in the form of Velus Jones and tyler. Brought in an All-Pro guard to go along with another guard who plays at an All-Pro level when he's not injured. A rebuild doesn't happen in the day, the Bears ran out of time with Justin just as much as anything, Poles gave feels what he could at the time.
Waiting for the Fields haters to discredit Stroud for speaking facts.
I’m a packers fan and said the same thing all offseason
He don’t know algebra but he fasho knows football
From a GM standpoint, it just wouldn’t make any sense to keep Justin Fields. You’re hinging your job on one season to see if Fields proves his draft status or not whereas Micah said with Caleb Williams you have four years.
I guess it is about self preservation so Ig you're right there, but god I wish there was some attempt at being a competent team when it comes to developing players.
@@marionluigi6517 Tough situation. Poles had no control of what happened previously with the Bears. So he had no ties to really make Justin Fields work.
@@rellfacts279 yea but it is sad to see but business is business ig
Because the situation the former GM and head coach left the organization in they had to make difficult moves. Apparently CJ know how to play just doesn’t understand the NFL
Poles was saving his job. He didn't care about Justin. He's toast if Caleb is trash.
Yeah.... Poles seemed hellbent on getting his own QB.. regardless
CJ has no idea of the context. Ryan Poles inherited a mess of cap hell, older vets, and JF1. He had to strip it down for a couple years and build up from the bottom. There is no timeline that they could have just given him 3 star WR
I don't know why everyone seems to think Justin's a good QB who got screwed over relative to other QBs in league and the challenges they also had to face. Mahomes won a super bowl[s] with terrible & inexperienced wide receivers. Burrow made to a super bowl with the leagues worst offensive line. Rodgers consistently dragged his team to playoffs despite being injured and team never taking an offensive skill position in 1st round while he was a starter with packers 10+ years.
My point is that elite or even just plain good QBs can not only make it to playoffs, but actually make some deep runs. They don't need everything to be perfect. Even Stroud showed potential to be a good QB by getting his team to playoffs as a rookie with an inexperienced head coach and no real established offensive weapons. I mean the most notable player of the offensive side of the ball going into the 2023 season was their offensive tackle Leremy Tunsil.
If you watch the film nothing outside of his scrambling ability is really that impressive. I'm sure he could find some success if he had the best situation like Tua or Hurts who're literally surrounded by weapons everywhere, but in all honesty those guys are above average QBs who need a strong team to win. Give them the weapons Mahomes had the past 2 seasons or the offensive line Burrow had his first 2 seasons and they'd be lucky to make playoffs in my opinion.
He's absolutely right. I'm not a big Fields fan but he's got talent. There were games when he showed he could be a very good starter. Also games where he showed he should be a backup. But if they had given him anything like the offense they just stacked up Bears are easily in the playoffs. I don't get when a team wants a QB to be the franchise guy but won't give him the weapons to do it.
Because Poles didn't draft him . That's what it came down to... unfortunately.
100% about the money and resetting that rookie qb clock
I wanted to keep JF1, but the reality of business. Drafted by a different GM and Coach, fifth year option looming, and there is a prospect coming out of college that is projected to be better than the past QBs in ten years or more. CW better pull fireworks out his a.s.