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SDTM: This Or That? Summer 2022 Pinball Edition + NEW LE REVEAL!
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- Опубликовано: 13 авг 2024
- SDTM: This Or That? Summer 2022 Pinball Edition
Zach and Greg make some tough decisions on this episode of This Or That? Plus, the fellas get to show off a must-have enhancement for Toy Story 4 pinball! Get yours today at flipnoutpinball.com
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THIS OR THAT IS BACK…LET’S GO!!!!
Great show🤩
Wonka SE or TS4 LE?
About damn time! You suck for making us wait.
Houdini or Legends of Valhalla?
Oktoberfest or Hot Wheels?
Love the “this or that” vids! I don’t have many friends in the hobby, so hearing the counter-points and banter helps add other perspectives to my own opinions (away from pinside).
ToT: Your two favorite American Pinball games (LoV, Houdini, Oktoberfest, Hotwheels) or two favorite Spooky games (R&M, TNA, Halloween, Alice Cooper, UM, AMH)
Thanks McGee! That’s why we are here buddy. And thanks for throwing us a tot for next time.
Toy story looks neat, but Godzilla is so awesome! Specially the Premium/ LE!
Godzilla might be Stern's best game since AC/ DC
I have a virtual pin and I love it. I also love the real tables as well. They both have their place and audience. I'd be curious to see what kind of virtual pin setups you guys have tried. A good setup with a full size cab, premium screen, solenoids, a shaker, and properly configured tables is a nice experience. I've also played some virtual cabs that are just awful. They are also a labor of love to keep going. I'm a software engineer by day, and I've spent a lot of time keeping mine running and up-to-date. They need a lot of care and feeding. I've told plenty of friends that they shouldn't get one because they aren't technical enough to own them. They can just come over and play mine.
That being said, given the choice I would always choose to play a working physical table over it's virtual counterpart if the option was there. That's a no-brainer.
Wanted to say thank you. I just bought my first pin less than a week ago. I hadn't played pinball in over 20 years, my family played a few at a kids bday party about 2 weeks ago, we spent hours playing and did not want to leave. So, I started the hunt, I will say based on the few games we played, your comments and critiques I bought JP Premium over TMNT Prem. I am beyond happy....180 games in less than 4 days happy. Also based on your comments I have a deposit on GZ Prem that I can't wait to get. Appreciate the content.
I bought my first pinball machine about 25 years ago (TZ), have been collecting ever since, currently own 5 physical games AND a virtual pin. I know it's the norm to poo poo virtual pinball but for me it's a great compliment to my physical tables. The stuff Zen Studios puts out is fantastic, their originals could not exist in physical form. It's a completely different experience to physical pinball that I enjoy alongside my physical games. And I'm not talking about those Arcade1Up things, those are crap. I have a PC hooked up to my virtual table with hundreds of super fun games, high frame rates, no lag. To each his own.....just felt like I had to offer up the positive side of virtual pinball. Great video as always 👍
For sure. There’s some really damn cool stuff in the vp world
@@SDTM It's virtually free and able to be played on any device (it doesn't cost $9,000 for a single machine with one game), it doesn't damage the machine by playing it, the ball doesn't get stuck, you can just exit and reenter the game if someone added 4-6 players instead of having to have 12-18 balls drain. This is like the vinyl vs mp3 argument. Hipsters with money will always try and make vintage things superior when that's not the way things work in progression.
@@adownbeatexegete1549 I think your argument and analogy are faulty. This is far from the vinyl vs mp3 comparison. It’s more like saying you prefer to ride a virtual rollercoaster in your living room rather than actually getting on an engineering marvel. Or the analogy I have used before: there’s nothing wrong with a lot porn. It’s free, it’s easy, it’s not based in reality, it’s good for what it is. But there’s nothing close to the feeling of the real thing. :)
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Most people don't have the luxury nor the ability to own a several-thousand-dollar toy. "My Lamborghini is better than your Altima, loser!" How exactly is one better that catches the attention of both police and criminals and costs more to fix than the Altima itself, yet each still serves the basic function of driving the speed limit? Classism is at every level and within every interest of society still. FALGSC or bust.
@@adownbeatexegete1549 easy there cowboy, no one was saying anything like that hahaha
Yes to virtual pinball. No room or $ for real tables. And it is a fun project to together.
11:44 I agree, Godzilla prem and cash. I have Godzilla Pro and it's the best pinball shooter out of my 4 pins (The Getaway, Star Trek pro, Avengers Infinity Quest Prem)
RUSH is absolutely phenomenal pinball machine!!! If I only had Expression Lights!!!!
Led Zeppelin Expression lights work...
about damn time you make another video fellas… now my week is complete 😝
LE Godzilla is my favorite machine by a mile.
I live in an apartment, so 3/4 virtual pinball is my only option 😅 its a good entry into the hobby - like racing video games (sim rig) as a gateway to real track days
It’s about time! I’ve missed this or that videos. Greg is right, Zach you gotta give the people what they want! Lol
We shall see if the numbers agree muahahaha
@@SDTM just like pinball market trends….the numbers don’t lie and neither do I lol
Looking down on people who may not have another option to enjoy the hobby other than a Vpin isn't a good look. I'm assuming that's not what you meant, but it's how it came off.
I have both and there are definetly plusses and minuses to both. First and foremost being the high price of entry into the physical pin world.
100% We both love what vp offers people and it being a gateway into physical pinball. Our comments are mostly amped up for entertainment purposes.
Godzilla Premium rules them all
Rush review, need to figure out some of the rules. Just got it 3 days ago, so far really like it.
RUSH with Pin-Woofer. Dan is the Man!!! when it comes to pinball sounds
Yes, I built a full sized Williams wide body virtual pinball machine and love it! With VPX and a good development team like VPin Workshop, you can experience really cool tables that are rendered quite nicely. The led lighting, dmd, art, sound, and code stay true to each game and its great to be able to flip through your library and appreciate everything that goes into making a real table. Also, it gives you a chance to experience rare games like big bang bar and see the actual rom from the game run on your dmd. That all being said, it got me into pinball and I just purchased a Godzilla LE so I’m super excited to own a real table!
That’s a great attitude and we are glad you joined the community!
Someone hep me out - what did Haggis do? The "Celts" thing? Something different with the playfield that made it stronger?
Thanks for including my question! I ended up getting the Black Knight Pro and love it, however I still play STH whenever I find one on location. Two very fun games.
Greg Bone, JP LE or GZ prem??
"McGruber" took the 1UP AFM! I got 🐐 mania on insider so ironically they're both virtual for me until i get a real AFM! Obviously your best work yet tho guys!
Love ya man
I rewatched the godzilla review. Greg seemed to enjoy it but was really held back by the theme from thinking it was great.. it seems he has come along way and is now signing high praise despite the theme. I cant compare games to the extent of you two of course. but I've at least tried most games briefly and to me it also seems to be high on the rank list. one of the games I've enjoyed the most as a beginner new to pinball.
Dang it i missed you guys, love your videos.
Another great video, but why SO short?? Everything under 2 hours is unacceptable😅
God bless you two and your family 🤗
Rush is my favorite pin. Not only are they one of my favorite bands, but this pin shoots sooooo well. Great pin! No, the light show is not better on GnR. The lights shoot straight up into your eyes instead of onto the playfield! The expression lights are wayyyyyy better than JJP’s. Stranger Things Pro is a fantastic pin. Only moved mine to get an AFMr in the lineup (damn near same layout). But a great great pin. Licensed games don’t mean doo doo. WOZ pretty but floaty and boring. Twizzlers. Noodle chili is ghey.
GODZILLA by a country mile
Man it’s going to be a hard ass pin to beat!!!!
You broke my heart ripping on my Skyline chili lol.
What would be a good one vs. medieval madness for you guys?
GODZILLLLA prem. for sure over any game !
Once you’ve played both, can’t do virtual pins. Just totally different than real pins.
Zach, WhirlWind+Radical or Stranger Things LE?
Oh damn you’re evil
Gaudians Pro or Turtles Pro?? Thanks for selling me Gaudians 👌. That would have been a good comparison. Thanks Zach! King Henry here 😎
Love havin noodles in the chili!
You all have named Godzilla over T$4 and thus have both kept your honor. MechaGodzilla approves. /GodzillaRoar
Damn, I can’t read Godzilla Roar without hearing your impersonation now…
I have the GZ premium and you guys are spot on as usual...irreplaceable
Damn…it so is
The people appreciate This or That
We loves the peoples
WOZ !!!’
Rush review guys Rush
Hey Zach, I get it that not everyone is a Rush fan. But if you ARE a Rush fan, the callouts are the best on the planet. Lots of inside "Rush fan" jokes.
Just wait till he gets more time on it!!!! He will eventually become a full blown Rush fan!!!! (Greg)
Finally opened the Rush LE I’ve had sitting by my front door for a few months and it’s amazing! Not super smooth like the Elwins but I like the variety. The shots are great and love the music but still need to read up on the rules.
Man I feel lucky I got my POTC LE new for 11.5. I don't even play it much anymore but I can't give it up because I'd never pay the current price to get it back.
Are you guys excited about the stern James Bond 007? Any news on what to expect. You guys in?
Ha ha I get excited about everything!!! Wish we knew more! Can’t wait to see the reveal!!!!
So glad to have you guys back! Great video as always. Zach get playing some rush so we can have a review!
I’m staying on him Nick!!! (Greg)
@@SDTM Sounds great! I've been putting a lot of games on a Rush pro and man is it a fun game! Such a fun shooter. Looking forward to both of your thoughts.
Eville Pinball should do Godzilla Armor for premiums cause Sterns was weak. Sterns Mandalorian was awesome but Godzilla was weak. Just my opinion but I like that they're going to get into armor.
Thinking the same thing on taking nothing over virtual pins.
Also hoping Pirates gets a vault. I like it but 24k is a little steep.
@Kwistenbiebel200 Space cadet (windows) and Pro Pinball 1-4 (PS1) were good.
Besides that I'm not into it. The real tables never really make the translation.
Another excellent video guys. We love to see it!!!!!!!
Thanks Drew!!! Appreciate ya buddy
I just completed a trade and I'm starting to question whether I did well or lost. I traded my CGC SE Monster Bash & Jurassic Park Pro for CGC SE Cactus Canyon , Black Knight Sword of Rage Pro, & $5500 cash. Love to hear your thoughts.
Zach is not Turtley enough for the Turtle Club
Hahahaha
I played Time Fantasy throughout high school back in the early eighties. I spend so much on that machine I could have bought it.
For the past year I have been playing Star Wars pro at the local entertainment center. I am to the point that it is time to buy my first machine. I’m thinking about a Star Wars Premium just because I love the game.
Does anyone have any suggestions for a first game purchase?
Struggling with this decision on which two games I want. SW Premium, Deadpool Pro or Jurassic Park pro. One has to go. Which two should I go with?
Dp. Have them all. Sw is horrible imo
Go with Special Force.
Elvira is just the best, period. Except for my Godzilla LE, lol. But I take Elvira over every other game besides Zilla.
Damn you!!!! Iv been looking for a premium!!! Now I’m even more anxious to find one!!!! (Greg)
@@SDTM Elvira is awesome. My current lineup is wonka CE, GNR LE, Elvira premium and zilla LE. People are just drawn to Elvira. It’s a great shooter with a campy funny theme. Hard to beat. Hope you find one (but that’s hard to do…..)
I agree a lot with your picks. SW premium and TWD pro are two of my favorites.
How about this or that TNA + WoZ RR or DP premium + DI LE
Fun episode!! Rat pack is back!
Greg is right! RUSH premium is an amazing game!!
Bugs or stuck balls?
Ok I have a DP PRO & TMNT PRO . What should I trade for ?
Stern did a vote for which is their best game and Iron Maiden won. Can you all do brackets like that with all the machines and see what your viewers think the best is?
How about Twilight Zone and Lord of the Rings SE or Toy story
Zach is correct....Cactus Canyon over Rush!
Thanks for the great This or That!
Talking about a newer Stern Pro, I'd have to say Jurassic Park. I'm in the minority here but Godzilla still hasn't clicked with me. It's good but I don't get the hype.
But we love GnR too so we're probably just off or something...
Thanks again guys!
I WISH I had a jm... 😭 top 10 of my memories 😭 Operating a turtles pro right now =)
Show CEs some love!
You guys are getting gray. Great video
No it’s just new camera gear
GZ LE or your first born?
(Us over here sweat rolling off our faces)
Redvines taste like slightly cherry flavored candles
HA
when’s the Medieval Madness review going to drop?
Oooh hopefully soon. We have that and Halloween and Rick and Morty and Rush and all kinds of new reviews coming
@@SDTM given the code isn’t too deep, I would love to see how it stacks up in your ratings formula compared to the Top 100 on pinside!
A new sdtm video!!!!!
Can you do a review on the stranger things pro pinball please ? it's my favorite pinball I've tried before 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Jacob Like-y in a Chris Farley voice
rob zombie or champion pub
Wonka SE or TS4 LE?
So is Evansville, er uhm, Eville pinball, owned or operated by y’all?
No it is not. I wish I had time to open up another business haha
That or this ?
Yeah that works too…or this?…
Led Zeppelin Premium vs Ghostbusters Premium
Hoew about a this or that for us poor folks best pin for $3500? LW3 not included! Lol
I like that idea
I’ll take Cincinnati chili over virtual pinball.
Great White North and EHoH
😂😂😂😂
Who made that business decision at Evil Pinball? GZ would be a better game if you want to sell product
GZ has armor
Rick and Morty BSE or TS4 CE?
Oooh I like your thinking
Lord of the rings +Stranger Things LE or Godzilla premium and Toy story LE
Ooooh damn that’s tough
IJPA or Stranger Things Prem?
Damn that’s a good one Greg
GNR shoots like a dog. Couldn’t wait for my game to end. We one a free game and my two daughters didn’t even want to play it. I was stuck with it.
Can we get a let's kick this shit shirt?
I was agreeing with your choices until 35:18. Travesty!
Hahahaha you can leave the chocolate and sugar out of our meat soup thank you!
WHAT THE HELL IS EVEN THIS!?
HUH
@@SDTM Daddy Chill
Are you drunk again Moo Bootie?
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Boomer 🤣
This or That:
Willy Wonka LE or Toy Story 4 LE
Mandalorian Premium or Rush Premium
Now please don't let it be another year until the next video!
What would you trade for Michael Jordan and depression Chile Is absolutely gross Are you guys from Kentucky
Hahahaha
It is funny how stranger things pro is soooo bad compared to a premium!
RUSH LE by a mile! Love art on GNR but gameplay sucks. I've been to several arcades in multiple states and I have observed players walking up to GNR playing it one time and walking away in every location. No replay value. Pretty but boring to shoot.
Totally agree on the GNR replay value. I have never been able to muster up the will to play it twice.
Halloween only lasted 2- weeks in my home!!! Had to be one of the WORST SHOOTERS of all time!! Absolutely horrible
Whhhhaaattttt! It took me a little bit because it is so different but I’m loving it! (Greg) but it does have a very different feel
Way to pick to do mods for a really shitty overpriced JJP pin.