@d R, I was hoping that there was an answer...but it was false hope. I wasted time thinking there was. I had forgotten what Frodo said, which is how I feel after everything. So I asked a person like you how do you go back to living a normal life, and he said you don't. You always have a hole inside missing.
"“How do you pick up the threads of an old life? How do you go on, when in your heart you begin to understand... there is no going back? There are some things that time cannot mend. Some hurts that go too deep, that have taken hold.” These words are so much true. After one lives through difficult times there is no going back to the old yourself.
You can really feel Tolkien’s feelings on war in these words. Once you’ve experienced it, there is no going back to what once was that will never be again.
I had read All Quiet on the Western Front in high school and then recently watched the film adaptation and after re-listening to this, I completely agree. There's something more to the closing of this. It's poetic, sad, and when you really understand the war aspect, it makes it real.
I know Tolkien frequently denied that any of LOTR was meant to be an allegory for the first world war. But I can't help but feel, at least in this final part, that there wasn't something of his experiences in this. As he reflects upon the knowledge that there are some experiences (such as the ones he endured) that can never be recovered from. That change you permanently in a way that is not for the better, and you cannot undo the damage that is done.
@@Robert-hz9bj A story doesn’t have to be allegorical for it to draw on themes and experiences. Certainly TLotR draws on his own experiences of war, particularly the dead marshes, and the slow and insidious rise of dark, foreign tyrannies and the ineptitude of once mighty governance, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that the story is an allegory of these things. It is a story unto itself, and it is powerful because we can relate to these themes.
@@SeppukuAddict Yeah I think it isn't a direct allegory but most definitely LOTR drew inspiration from ww1. I mean all authors draw inspiration from their own life and feelings for their story.
@@Robert-hz9bj the older i get, the more powerful Frodo's ending is to me. When i first saw this movie 20 years ago, I didn't really appreciate what was going on...but now I do Tolkien must have realized that he would never fully find peace with what he experienced in war time, until the day he died and passed away into the afterlife he believed in. You can briefly see it in the look on Frodo's face at Sam's wedding. Although he is so happy for his friend, he also knows that he can never find that peace in this life...and the only way he can come to terms with everything that has happened...is to enter a new world
@@charlesliu5320 the undying land is not heaven at all... actually frodo will die there and we have no clue where his soul is going to go after this , but probably some sort of christian heven , but it s definitly not valinor
I would just like to remind everyone that at 1:10 when Sam came into the room he is no longer Frodo’s gardener, he’s the MAYOR OF THE SHIRE, a position he’d hold for seven consecutive seven-year-terms, and yet he still calls Frodo “Mister Frodo”.
@@ayaankhan7576 he's wrong in that while it's true that Sam does become Mayor, he becomes Mayor after Frodo leaves. Sam is elected in SR 1427 (Shire Reckoning, 4th age). Frodo leaves Middle Earth SR 1421
@@stevesmith1383 That's true in the books, but if you actually read what Frodo's writing in this scene it says "Samwise Gamgee was elected may(or of) Hobbiton."
Frodo looks much paler and older here. He still looks pretty much the same, but you can see the tiredness and pain in his eyes. Not to mention how much older Bilbo looks...
On top of Frodo's PTSD, am I the only one who finds it sad seeing Bilbo at this point after watching the Hobbit movies? The gentle, kindly hobbit who managed to outsmart Gollum, elves, spiders, and a dragon having been reduced to a frail old empty shell of his former self who still has not gotten over his addiction to the Ring?
To this day, the ending of Return of the King is so unique. So many bug franchises just end. ROTK goes the extra mile to show our heroes trying to reintegrate into normal life while realizing it can’t ever be the same.
It breaks all rules of film making. You are not supposed to linger long after the climax in this way. You are not supposed to continue past fade to black, even worse is doing so several times in a row. However in breaking the rules it gives us something unique, and it satisfies that feeling we all get of "I want a bit more" in a small way, which is very gratifying. ROTK ending(s) is like Jackson expecting everyone in the theater shouting "ENCORE!" over and over, and giving them those encores, until finally at the Grey Havens no more encores can be given, the story has well and truly ended. It doesn't mean all films should linger like ROTK does, ROTK earns it by building on a 10-12 hours trilogy where we grow more attached to the characters than we would ever do during a normal film, however it does show that one shouldn't always follow the conventions either. Of course the books break even more conventions, however the Lord of the Rings as a literary work is legendary for how little it cares for the conventions of the medium. It was made to satisfy the author, not critics, or even the audience and thus it cares little for conventional wisdom and carves its own path.
@@Elchupanibres I think there's a lot of truth to that, because although the lord of the rings is a fantasy, it's born directly from Tolkien giving an outpouring of his lived experience of WW1. It's a book he wrote to console himself, I don't think he particularly cared if many people would read it, he was just glad that he wrote it.
It's not just physical battle. It's emotional anguish or grief and trauma. Once you have experienced loss, or had your eyes opened, you can't unsee things, and you're not quite the same person you were. It's like the deep melancholy that lives in my heart since my younger brother died.
2:20 God, that scene breaks me up. Bilbo stills want the ring so bad, his life will not be the same, he's damaged forever. And Frodo knows, because he feels the same. They both damaged, and they need to heal. That's why they're leaving
Not only that, the Ring extended their lives unnaturally. Frodo's stab wound from the Nazgul never healed too. Also, Bilbo and Frodo saved the world so they deserve to live in the Undying Lands which is basically Heaven
I think for Frodo it is worse. Bilbo still believes he might see the ring again. Frodo knows not only has the ring been destroyed but ultimately he failed when it was time to throw it into the Crack of Doom
Bilbo perks up when he sees the boats, excited for one more adventure, and Frodo smiles for the first time in a long time. Both are going to be healed in the undying lands
When I've finish watching 10 hours of LOTR I ask myself the same thing, Frodo. "How do you go on?" It's such a good trilogy I feel empty inside when it's over... I want more!
The "How do you pick up the threads of an old life?..." quote resonates so hard with me as someone trying to get over depression. You can never truly go back to the way you were before.
Or, a bunch of things changing in your life over a period of time, and years later, you come back to a place you visited or lived in childhood, and nothing is quite the same as it was.
SusantheRestorer This is exactly why, after I left my childhood home for the last time, I've avoided seeing it ever again (and will continue to do so for the rest of my life), even though it's close by. I know that it wouldn't be the same, and that I wouldn't be able to bear it.
@@susantherestorer Yes I relate to that as well. When my parents got divorced and sold the house I grew up I found myself thinking about the quote from LOTR. I tried to pick up the pieces of my old life as much as I could but in my heart I knew it was never going to be the same.
Knowing bilbo’s story, it made every scene with him in lord of the rings that much more impactful, and it breaks my heart to see how old he becomes now that the ring’s effects have nearly worn off completely
I mean, he lived to be a grand old man by his folks standard. He lived a great life, full of adventure, and joy and grief and peace. I dont feel too bad for him at all, aside from maybe the fact that even now the rings taint lingers on him, even if only faintly. While he wishes to see it again, he isnt that upset that he cant.
“Tell me again, where are we going?” “To the harbor, Ian. The Elves have accorded you a special honor; a place on the last ship to leave Middle Earth.”
@@ShadowMoon878 Sorry, I missed that. I've deleted my earlier post and may I join you in remembering Ian Holm who was a great actor and his passing is a loss to us all.
Raymond Alcantara well technically he's right since he didn't toss it into the fire intentionlly but "lost" it while fighting with gollum. We will never know if Frodo would have had the strenghth to throw it into the fire. We don't even know how he feels about the ring now since we last saw him wanting to keep it for himself. So he might be honest when he apologizes to bilbo for losing it.
Raymond Alcantara yeah true. But then again, that needed to happen. The ring needed to be destroyed. So even if he didn't throw it in the fire, it was still destroyed.
According to Tolkien getting the ring to Mount Doom was as much as Frodo could do, but no more. The only Eru (the creator God within LOTR) intervened directly was when he made Gollum trip.
+Very Nice We actually know. In the book it says that “It is gone forever and now all is dark and empty” A part of him misses the Ring. Tolkien said that Frodo had actually become a slave of the Ring; Eru came to help to destroy it, but the Ring won its battle of will with Frodo, as it did with Gollum and Bilbo and this scene proves it: none of them could avoid regretting its loss.
"There are some things that time cannot mend" when I first watched this scene as a kid when it first came out, I thought he just meant when he was stabbed on Weathertop and stung by Shelob but now as an adult, I realise that the journey to Mordor took it's toll on Frodo and messed him up mentally (when I say that, I mean he was never the same hobbit he was before he left the Shire). Even though the other hobbits were able to go back to their normal lives, sadly for Frodo that was not the case hence why he had to go to the Grey Havens to find peace and be healed.
Yeah the ring took a toll on him spiritually, twisting him in many ways, plus the stabbing on Weathertop, being bitten by Shelob, and just all that he experienced certainly broke him down physically and and spiritually. One of the reasons it can be argued that Sam is the real hero of the tale is that Sam endured most of the same hardships as Frodo but managed to move on and rebuild a happy life and even Merry and Pippen managed to live relatively normal lives. Just as some people are likely more susceptible to PTSD than others, Frodo appears to be someone who perhaps can't move past certain things and will always be troubled by what he saw and did. I suspect too that Frodo is also always haunted that had it not been for Gollum, Frodo's weakness at the last moment might have doomed them all, and he can't forgive himself for that making it even harder to heal and move on.
@@kentvesser9484 I always forget about that moment where Frodo got possessed by the ring, that will have played on his mind that it was actually gollum that destroyed the ring (by accident) and not Frodo, he would have felt like he failed and a fraud
@@kentvesser9484 while i agree that it was largely Sam who was the true hero, you cant really argue that he underwent the same hardship. yes they shared the same experiences, but while Sam's greatest hardship was witnessing his friends suffering and deteriorating strength, Frodo had to undergo all those trials while simultaneously attempting (and ultimately failing due to his fatigue and reduced physical state) to resist the rings temptations. I believe thats also largely why Frodo chose to leave middle earth in the end, since he had endured the same mental deterioration as bilbo (as well as having to shoulder the burden of the knowledge that, had it not been for his friend AND the intervention of an enemy, he would ultimately have failed) while also suffering some truely horrendous wounds.
It's crazy how themes and scenarios in fantasy stories are more real than one may tend to think. Every part of life is like a new chapter in the Grand Story.
After you watch all 6 movies in a row and to come to this scene it means so much more, it really made me cry and all these flashbacks of Bilbo & the dwarves in Bag End went through my head. It all began here in Bag End. It began in hole in the ground and that's were it also ends... Really beautiful and powerfull scene!!! Middle Earth forever
MDkid1 - Gandalf seeing a vision in the palantir of what would happen if Smaug joins forces with Sauron, we see Smaug leading an army of orcs to war. - More battle of Dol Guldur - More Beorn during the Battle - More scenes of the orcs marching as seen in the trailers - There is a chance that the chariot scene from the trailer is included but that's not sure. - Thorin's funeral and Thranduil getting his gems - Dain's coronation - An extended return journey (I hope) - And Smaug destroying the windlance in Lake-Town, and probably a bit longer destruction of the city too
Here's the thing. A few years pass between Sam's marriage and this scene. I truly believe that Frodo tried to find peace. But deep down, he knew he couldn't. He was stabbed by a Morgul blade, he kept the Ring for quite a while and it put him at the absoluteedge of madness. Sure it was destroyed, but for Frodo, the damage had already been done. His wound from the Witch King never fully healed and the mental damage from carrying the Ring left him with a deep psychological scar. He knew that despite his efforts, he'd find no peace in The Shire
The one thing that makes this a triumph of a finale, is ironically the melancholy. That even with victory the world has changed too much that it can never be what it once was and we have to humble ourselves. "...I do not expect' history' to be anything but a 'long defeat' - though it contains some samples or glimpses of final victory.” - JRR Tolkien To me this scene works without "The Scouring." Because after seeing the larger world this paradise preserved becomes tiny and precious and serving as a contrast to a world wary soul articulates that lose just as fine.
Yes, while seeing the scouring might have been interesting in some ways, seeing it and then flashing forward four years would have probably been too jarring.
What I love about this is the fact that Lotr was such an ‘optimistic’ story. Almost all the heroes survive and all evil is conveniently vanquished. But its this one point the movie tells us that it isnt always the case. No matter how optimistic you are, no matter how hard you want it, some things will never change and some changes you can never revert.
As someone whos walked with Schizophrenia for 20 years now, I cry every time I watch this scene. Ive been fighting a war with this personality that isn't my own for so long. The caring and loving and charismatic and full of life my 14 year old self had is still trapped within. This shadow of self doubt and hatred is merely a shell of who I am, yet every day, I realize that I'm sick and am never getting better. The one thing I had was my ability to calculate and understand complex puzzles/logics which helped me to be good in my career, but now as I reach the half way point of life, I'm slowing down considerably. Im begginning to realize I'm never going to get out of this. I can hear them. I can feel them closing in all around me. One day I hope I'll find my way back again and wake up. No amount of success in my career or life is going to fix this unhappiness. I'm just hollow. I have such a hard time watching this clip. It ruins me.
I cried reading this.. and I cry every time I watch this, too.. I'm into my 6th year of wandering aimlessly in a dense fog of heavy torrential mental illness that I know not what to call. I'm 24 now I wonder if I too will reach 20 years from now without finding my way out and back into living We carry burdens just as Frodo did No matter how long we carry them or how heavy they become we have to keep going And we can't forget those in our life who want to help us, even if we push them away and hurt them in our suffering Those who truly love us will understand and will still carry us when we need it. Stay strong, I wish you love and strength and peace, SovereignVoid. Keep going.
@@doogelyjim8627 As someone who's battling his own inner (and outer) demons for more than 10 years I cried for both of you, myself and souls like Frodo. I'm 25 now and I don't know if I will ever find peace and meaning in my life, but I pray that those who suffer like you can smile again in this life and the after. This is why i really like Frodo, he's such a tragic and deep character. Only after getting through some true pain and suffering you begin to understand him.
It’s been a year since you made this comment, and I will never know your true pain, but just know that I’m thinking of you and praying for you. I truly hope that you find some solace, my friend.
Please, ask God for help because He is the one who helps 🙏🙏 i will tell you the truth, you don't hear your head, you do hear voices, but evil ones, of the evil spirits. And God will help you. Don't try to fight it alone, it is a trap to try to fight not calling God for help 😢 but He is the one who made Heaven and Earth, of whom we shall be afraid?
As someone with C-PTSD, this scene, and Frodo as a character truly speaks to me. It’s wild watching the LOTR trilogy as a child, then re-watching it as an adult with more life experience, baggage than what most people might have, and an entirely new point of view on life and existence as a whole. As a child, watching LOTR was epic because it had elves, wizards, and great battles. I loved those things and thought it was super cool. Watching it now, as an adult, when you finally understand the symbolism behind so much of the characters, how the events that occurred in Middle-earth mirrors a lot of Tolkien’s own life experiences and inner thoughts, it hits really close to home. As someone who experienced prolonged trauma for many, many years, the way Frodo evolves as a character and tries to go back to his old self and old way of life, only to realize that he can’t and never will speaks to me in such a way that it leaves this almost bittersweet feeling in me. It hurts to think about, but it is so comforting to see something in media portraying those thoughts and emotions so well. It hits close to home in a very painful yet comforting way. Perhaps a reminder to myself that, despite of how hard I’d try, I would never, ever go back to my old way of life after what I have experienced. But that’s okay. Perhaps, one is not meant to after such things, but to find a new way to live despite of the old wounds aching from time to time. Frodo stepping on the boat, to me, is what it feels like to finally accept your circumstances. It is what it is. You journey into something new, something that will perhaps finally bring you inner peace, even if you have to leave some old things behind because you can never truly go back to those things and live like you once did. I truly love Tolkien and his work. I feel so lucky to be alive at a time where I can read his works and watch the LOTR trilogy whenever I feel like it. Not only that, but I live in a time where I can find comfort in that fictional world and draw inspiration from it when things become dark and my past experiences weigh down on me.
its funny how Game of Thrones tried to copy this with Sam (funny enough) writing a book called the Game of Thrones at the end, but it didn't have any impact whatsoever.
Everytime I think about that, my blood starts to boil. Not only does it piss me off for the fact it's very clear this was Dumb and Dumber's cheap tact on way of saying "We did it! We completed the story!" but to essentially plagiarize not just the film but also Tolkien's work, something that Martin was against doing since he wrote the books years before, is just disgusting, and this is one of the many things that made me realize that they just didn't care!
Seeing this ending is all the sadder when you re-watch the beginning of Fellowship and look at Frodo then. He's so happy, full of life and genuinely looks like he's never had a hard moment in his life. Yet by the end he's tired, broken and depressed. A perfect reflection of how the men who fought during World War I felt before and after their service.
This scene brilliantly shows why Bilbo as well as Frodo has to go to the West. The ring bearers are forever damaged by the Ring; it tempts Bilbo even after its destruction. Only grace can heal the wounds evil scars us with.
“How do you pick up the threads of an old life? How do you go on, when in your heart you begin to understand... there is no going back? There are some things that time cannot mend. Some hurts that go too deep, that have taken hold.” After a decade of severe depression, PTSD, suicidal thoughts and endless battles and turmoil with my innermost demons, I'd want nothing other than return to who I was at 15, when I listened to this line for the first time and couldn't comprehend any bit of it.
it's so sad to see bilbo still so attached to the One Ring even though he had the willpower to give it up in the first place. After seeing this, you get a whole new idea of the horror of the One Ring and of its master. No wonder it corrupted the hearts of Isildur, Smeagol, Boromir, and even Frodo. Galadriel herself, the most powerful of the elves, felt drawn to it. Even after its demise and destruction, Bilbo felt drawn to it, though it is nonexistent. Absolutely mind-blowing.
@@felipemoreira7024 yeah, but even the fact that he could be intimidated into giving it up shows that the hold the Ring hat over him was not complete. I don’t think that Sméagol would have just given it up, for example. Or Boromir. Maybe not even Galadriel, if she had it in her possession and Gandalf asked her to give it up. Bilbo did and he didn’t fight, I think that shows his strength.
@@LI-xv7uq he was almost threatened by a powerful Maia wilder of a ring of his own... He had no choice basically. Gandalf wouldnt allow him to leave with the ring if he refused to give it up. But i get your point
i feel like frodo did. something bad happened to me early this year and i got traumatized so bad that even terapy doesnt help. i always wanted to go back feeling like i felt before the incident, feeling llike a human being, but like Frodo said. there isnt going back , and i am so sad
Just over 2 years ago I lost my wife, kids, job, and a sense of being. A very painful chapter. I obsessed over going back and remembering the past. You know what? As the song by skinny puppy says there is no going back, you change. Remember in the Hobbit where Gandalf says "... and if you do come back you won't be the same?" I am in a new chapter of my life and things are better now only after I accepted my loss and moved forward FAST. You will be a stronger person and be in places you need to be only after becoming stronger. If I didn't lose all I had I couldn't give you this advice today :-) There is purpose in life and who you are changes. That is all that is meant. Move forward and whatever you do NEVER LOOK BACK.
sinistertim101 thank you for your inspiring words. and TheIntunecatu you're not alone, I had a horrible incident occur only two years ago. I only started going back to my regular life this year. Its hard, and its never going to be the same. I haven't healed yet, so I can't advise you. But, I'm still struggling, and trying. Just never give up. Always dream of a better tomorrow, and use movies or books such as the LOTR to motivate you! :)
TheIntunecatu Shadealade sinistertim101 I can understand your pain in part, several years ago there were a series of very painful events that I went through and that have changed my life forever. Think about what Gandalf says when trying to remember the path to Kazad'um, so do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide, all we can decide is what to do with time given us." Also consider the following correlation from The Screwtape Letters, that, in order to torture his "patient" the most Wormwood keeps him focused in the past, focusing on his pain. Keep in mind, though, that, as painful as any incident is, we must accept it as the past and, learning from the endurance which must be used to continue, apply it to our future, not as a curse but as a way to see the world differently, define ourselves, and find what we truly believe in. May the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, be with you, and may you be able to use these circumstances to find your logos, your true meaning, that you will see how you can continue and live your life meaningfully.
definitely the best way to end such trilogy. i love how this story gives time to the character to decide their fate, and not just abruptly end after victory is achieved. the progression and dynamic of the characters are far more important than just series of events and that's what makes the story relatable and so dear to many of us
When we take two artifacts from the movie that represent our own collective journeys, it's the ring and the ship which leaves for Valinor. The ring is that thing in the physical world we view as valuable, though it is designed for our demise as we cave in to desire and avarice. The ship is the ascent into Heaven where all of our mortal sorrows are washed away after the trauma of the war of our own lives. In the end, the ship wins over the ring, and we will all make that final journey. There is a ship waiting for all of us.
We all must earn our way into the heaven we choose. Maybe it's is not Christian or Muslim or Jewish, but whatever you believe heaven is like, the one you'd like to go to, you must earn your way into it by living your life to the fullest. Live as you believe is right and you will end up where you want to end up. Just as frodo did. Through pain and sacrifice he delivered evil to its final resting place and through that pain and sacrifice was granted entry into his own heaven. And bilbo managed to carry the ring long enough to pass it onto the one who would do that task, and through his own sacrifice, bearing that burden without letting it totally poison his mind, he is granted bliss in heaven as well. There is a lesson here. Even if you do not sacrifice something, your life accomplishments or lack thereof will determine where you go when you are done based on what you believe in.
"The sails were drawn up, and the wind blew, and slowly the ship slipped away down the long grey firth; and the light of the glass of Galadriel that Frodo bore glimmered and was lost. And the ship went out into the High Sea and passed on into the West, until at last on a night of rain Frodo smelled a sweet fragrance on the air and heard the sound of singing that came over the water. And then it seemed to him that as in his dream in the house of Bombadil, the grey rain-curtain turned all to silver glass and was rolled back, and he beheld white shores and beyond them a far green country under a swift sunrise." -- J.R.R. Tolkien, _The Return of the King._
*“How do you pick up the threads of an old life? How do you go on, when in your heart you begin to understand there is no going back? There are some things that time cannot mend. Some hurts that go too deep, that have taken hold.”* He’s finally home, and yet you can still feel the pain in Frodo’s voice and know that deep inside after everything he’s been through, he’s still suffering. Just shows how much an unexpected journey can change you.
Tolkien based this from his experience of coming back home after WWI. In his eyes, he was a stranger in a changed land, which is what he conveyed into Frodo's return to the Shire.
Indeed, the perspective missing in the Jackson adaptation is that Tolkien saw not just himself changed, but the very lands. The Scouring of the Shire combined with Frodo's experiences to show both how Britain and Tolkien himself changed during the years leading up to the first world war as well as during the war and especially after. The Hobbits and the Shire exemplify what Tolkien truly found best in the world, and the attacks on them and their lifestyle mirrored what Tolkien felt about real world events. In a way, the fact that the war doesn't reach the Shire in Jackson's adaptation undermines the true melancholy of Tolkien's Lord of the Rings. Tolkien's work has nowhere left safe and unharmed, because he doesn't feel anywhere can escape momentous events and change, even if he wish some places would be spared.
That generation was often referred to as the Lost Generation in literature as that war not only killed so many of them, but so many that came home from the war never really recovered. Some were fortunate like Sam to come home and resume a normal life without outward signs of trauma, but others struggled with the physical and emotional scars of the war and were further disillusioned when the cause they fought for seemed like such a lie within only a few years regardless of which side they fought on.
@@V3ct0r_S1gm4 They restore the Shire by ending the reign of Saruman and his cronies, and the Shire gets back to its old, happy ways. It is Frodo, however, who cannot recover from the adverse effects of his adventures, which is why he leaves.
"How do you pick up the threads of an old life? How do you go on...when in your heart you begin to understand...there is no going back? There are some things that time cannot mend. Some hurts that go too deep...that have taken hold." I hope most people never truly understand what those words mean.
I may never truly understand, but with glimpses and visions into what lies beyond that veil, I can happily say I never wish to. It is the folly of humanity, in we will always seek out wisdom. But too often do we mistake that which is learned, for that which is experienced.
In the the Lord of the Rings trilogy,JRR Tolkien was writing about how his time as a soldier in WW1 affected him. The lack of mental health care available at that time meant his was unable/uncomfortable with putting his thoughts into words. The feeling of isolation and and loneliness of returning from the carnage of battle to find that little has changed, no-one knows what to say to you so they keep their distance, Tolkien describes well.
I Lost my Grandfather 3 Days ago, i haven't slept for 48 hours, just bawling My eyes out. I missed saying goodbye to him with 1 hour. I wanted to say so many things to him before he died, that i loved him so goddamn much and how much he means to me. I haven't been the greatest of grandchildren because i haven't seen him as much as i should have. I wish to Forever spend time with him now, telling me stories of him back in WW2, how he met granny. Just His life. But now it is too late, and i have to live with that. :(
What a great story. Based off of World War One. Young men who had been through hell and back. Only to be greeted by people who didn't see them as heros. A sad but happy ending.
If you read around and read some of Tolkien's forewords and stuff like that I'm almost certain he explicitly mentions at some point that it's not really a reflection of World War One as such - I mean, it is, but that wasn't his sole intention or purpose. It was more about showing the Viking way of telling tales and stories, passing those down through the ages verbally and the creation of myths and memories through this. This scene paints that quite clear I think with the mentioning of adventure and the writing of the book. Obviously everything is down to interpretation - but that's the main thing I got having studied a whole module on Viking literature whilst at university.
World War I and II veterans were VERY MUCH welcomed back as heroes (you might be confusing the whole "didn't see them as heroes" thing with Vietnam). That was not Tolkien's point. Tolkien's point is exactly what Frodo says: even if you manage to survive hell on earth, even if you come back home and find everything exactly the same as it was before... you can never truly go back to your old life; you've been thru too muc; you've changed too much; the innocence you once had is completely gone. Like Frodo says "there are some wounds that time cannot mend".
Remember they brought the Spanish flu back with them from the front . . . so the world was very quickly occupied with yet another tragedy. And time moves quickly.
My best friend, my àgape, all I had wished for in life, died yesterday in a bike accident that was totally not his fault. He was 37,a total Lotr fan, we watched it together so many times...
Few understand that Frodo HAD to go to the Undying Lands. His life was saved by athelas, and Elrond's (and Arwen, in the movie) magic, and toxicity ameliorated, but a Morgul-blade's tip breaks off with stabbing and the tip slowly finds its way to the victim's heart and kills them dead. That's why Frodo says his wound has never healed, he looks like hell on the anniversary, and only the Undying Lands will relieve his suffering and prolong this life.
"How can you pick up the threads of an old life? How do you go on when, in your heart, you begin to understand there is no going back? There are some things time cannot mend, some hurts that go too deep, that have taken hold." WW1 really shaped the way an entire generation of men understood trauma. Rest in peace, Tolkien.
Frodo couldn't cope with the trauma of his journey and it affected him mentally and physically and Gandalf saw this and allowed Frodo to go with him, Bilbo, Elrond and Galadriel to the Grey Havens. Frodo didn't go there to die, but to find peace.
It's not really morgul blade or any of the wear and tear on the way that wounded him deeply. The thing that's really shaken him is the fact that when the moment of truth came he chose the Ring over the Shire or his friends or anything else. Sure Middle Earth was saved and he gets credit for carried the ring 99.9% of the way there, but he failed himself at the last step and saw a glimpse of who he really could be when tested to the limit and that's why he feels dead inside.
Nope. He didn't want the Ring back, He wants what the Ring TOOK from him. In the end, at Mount Doom, the Ring was at its MOST POWERFUL. He was already shattered by all the suffering + the Ring doing its worst to control him. When it finally WON the battle of the Will against him, it took part of his soul, as in that part that had kept the ring under control. To be corrupted and destroyed and tormented for keeping It from its owner (Sauron). The same part it took from Gollum and from Bilbo. These three characters are the results of what would happen to someone (not Sauron) that actually had the Ring. But, get this: Neither Bilbo or Gollum had the Ring when it was doing its utmost to get back to Sauron. It perverted Gollum, so it took care of it and, in time, by perverting Gollum, it would see itself back to its owner. Bilbo was made of Stronger material, and yet the Ring nearly corrupted him. Bilbo is lucky he only used the thing very few times throughout the years. He was addicted to it, but not like Gollum whose very existence depended on it by the very end. Frodo was under the influence of the Ring the less. But the RIng was at its most powerful, doing its utmost to get back to Sauron AND yet it only WON against Frodo's will when he was completely exhausted, physically and mentally destroyed, in the place of its forge...at the 'moment of truth,' as you called, NO ONE would have WON AGAINST THAT RING. NO ONE, if you were touching that thing, it would take you over (why do you think Isuldur, a PURE descendant of Numenor, way before its people diminished to be barely comparable to normal men failed so hard against that Ring when he had the chance to destroy it at the end of the Second Era?)....and thus why Gollum was so important. Both Bilbo and Frodo's COMPASSION saved the day when they let Gollum live. Remember, Sam wanted to KILL Gollum...and nearly did. When you get this, you see that even the importance of every single character and how they complete the history by being there and their actions.
Of course he wants what the ring took from him back but there's a little part of him that wants the ring back. Let's not forget that when the time finally came, when he reached the end he refused to destroy it, he completely succumbed to its power and that moment corrupted him forever. That's why the line "I lost it" has double meaning, he doesn't want to reveal to Bilbo the whole truth but it's also what he truly means anyway, he lost it, he didn't get rid of it, he didn't destroy it. Also as you said yourself the ring did pretty nasty stuff to Bilbo and Smeagol, they both wanted the ring back way after it wasn't with them anymore, Biblo wanted it back years after it got destroyed, why wouldn't Frodo be affected in the same way? Of course he didn't have it for such a long time as both Bilbo and Smeagol but as you already mentioned, he carried it for a longer time when it was in its most powerful state, longer that both previous owners. There defeinitely is a little part of himself that still wants it. I mean you said it yourself, no one could have won against that ring, that's how strong was its power to corrupt, during the story even people who never used or never carried it, wanted the ring more than anything. The longer the ring is in someone's possession, the more addicted they become to it, the ring was pure addiction and desire. As with all addiction, there's always that lingering feeling to go back and do it again, it might not be as powerful as before but the desire never really goes away.
That's not his ending, after Rosie died he took the last ship to go west together with Cirdan . He was allowed to do that because he's also a Ringbearer.
@@aaronbuffalo7769 Part of how Sam managed is that he had Rosie and was able to reboot his life afterwards. Perhaps Frodo could have tried moving on, but it sounds like his heart simply wasn't in it. Sam kind of used returning to the Shire and to Rosie as a way to keep some hope in his heart even in the bleakest times. Frodo seemed to lose hope that he would return and when he survived, he just didn't have any idea of what to do to move on. There was something in Frodo's character that made him the right person to carry the ring to Mordor, but perhaps that same character trait made it such that once that mission was done he was spent as well.
Frodo has went through and endured to much after his adventures. He’s been worn down by his experience. Frodo still had that scar from his wound by the Nazgûl at Weathertop (something everyone else knew wouldn’t heal) a reminder of his adventure.
"How do you pick up the threads of an old life? How do you go on.....when in your heart you begin to understand: there is no going back. There are some things time cannot mend. Some hurts that go too deep...that have taken hold." This is the most true thing I have ever heard.
As someone who has PTSD from Iraq, you lose a part of your soul in war if you’re a good person with deep feelings. I’ve never been able to shake what I’ve seen and done and i never will. I can only manage
+i wanna be a cream puff If they wanted to be funny, they should've inserted that scary Bilbo face moment here, one last time as well. That would have been both hilarious and out of place.
I saw the movies before I had read the books and I didn't really understand where Frodo was going. My husband explained it to me after I finished the books and rewatched the trilogy and the ending is just heartbreaking. Bittersweet, powerful, heartbreaking.
For some reason, the first minute of this is among my top 10 chunks/cues from the trilogy....the laid back reminiscence on past traumas and victories....it's so great it's hard to explain in words
this is seems to be Tolkien's own description of war, though the one he fought in was far less glorious than that he describes in his novels. the first world war must have been a truly terrible thing to experience
This scene has always been more than just Frodo's farewell to me. The journey to the Grey Havens struck me as not only sad, but strangely creepy, as if they were not just leaving Middle-earth, but going to their deaths, as a form of suicide that is, however, peaceful. And as someone struggeling with depression since childhood, this scene makes my cry in a way I cannot explain. It makes me wonder how the Grey Havens look like and what they're going to do when they there.
I read this book 2-3 times in my youth and at least once more as an adult and the ending breaks me every time. They really did capture it so well in the film. The trilogy is a masterpiece
This really highlights war. There is no happiness and sunshine and glory. You come back damaged, and changed.
Absolutely, which of course was something Professor Tolkien experienced first hand :-(
it's worse in the books as he comes home and the shire has been ravaged by saruman who was never killed during the war
they rout saruman out of the shire eventually
Yeah, even in Narnia, (a series of books for kids), you can't escape the realities and horrors of war. It just is more magnified in LOTR.
David P, if you're an American, you only fought for oil, money and power. the last war where where America did a good was WW2
I love how one human being can create a whole world in his head.
That's a very underrated comment.
Imagine the untold stories and worlds then.
What about a galaxy far far away?
Stan Lee created whole Multiverse in his head
It's beautiful
"There are some things time can not mend"
I cry every time. So relatable.
"Some hurts that go too deep. That have taken hold." Sad story of my life
Mine as well D:
same to bro
so relatable.
@d R, I was hoping that there was an answer...but it was false hope. I wasted time thinking there was.
I had forgotten what Frodo said, which is how I feel after everything.
So I asked a person like you how do you go back to living a normal life, and he said you don't. You always have a hole inside missing.
"“How do you pick up the threads of an old life? How do you go on, when in your heart you begin to understand... there is no going back? There are some things that time cannot mend. Some hurts that go too deep, that have taken hold.”
These words are so much true.
After one lives through difficult times there is no going back to the old yourself.
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After my grandmother died, I've been asking my mom this EXACT, and we STILL do not have an answer.
That's why they say, "you can't go home again." It's not that "home" has changed... it's that you have.
This is clearly a reference to soldiers suffering PTSD from war.
These words hitting hard after 2020
You can really feel Tolkien’s feelings on war in these words. Once you’ve experienced it, there is no going back to what once was that will never be again.
I had read All Quiet on the Western Front in high school and then recently watched the film adaptation and after re-listening to this, I completely agree.
There's something more to the closing of this. It's poetic, sad, and when you really understand the war aspect, it makes it real.
I know Tolkien frequently denied that any of LOTR was meant to be an allegory for the first world war. But I can't help but feel, at least in this final part, that there wasn't something of his experiences in this. As he reflects upon the knowledge that there are some experiences (such as the ones he endured) that can never be recovered from. That change you permanently in a way that is not for the better, and you cannot undo the damage that is done.
@@Robert-hz9bj A story doesn’t have to be allegorical for it to draw on themes and experiences. Certainly TLotR draws on his own experiences of war, particularly the dead marshes, and the slow and insidious rise of dark, foreign tyrannies and the ineptitude of once mighty governance, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that the story is an allegory of these things. It is a story unto itself, and it is powerful because we can relate to these themes.
@@SeppukuAddict Yeah I think it isn't a direct allegory but most definitely LOTR drew inspiration from ww1. I mean all authors draw inspiration from their own life and feelings for their story.
@@Robert-hz9bj the older i get, the more powerful Frodo's ending is to me. When i first saw this movie 20 years ago, I didn't really appreciate what was going on...but now I do
Tolkien must have realized that he would never fully find peace with what he experienced in war time, until the day he died and passed away into the afterlife he believed in. You can briefly see it in the look on Frodo's face at Sam's wedding. Although he is so happy for his friend, he also knows that he can never find that peace in this life...and the only way he can come to terms with everything that has happened...is to enter a new world
Galadriel was right the quest did take Frodos life
From a certain point of view
@@adammilette3076 A bit like Vader killed Anakin.
What makes that observation more clever is that The Undying Lands is basically heaven
More like his soul
He was not the same hobbit like before:(
@@charlesliu5320 the undying land is not heaven at all... actually frodo will die there and we have no clue where his soul is going to go after this , but probably some sort of christian heven , but it s definitly not valinor
Every great story deserves a great ending.
Except Mass Effect, right?
Mashek Or five
End? Oh the journey doesn’t end here
@@viksaggu9085 Every end has a new beginning.
@@viksaggu9085 what you mean?
I would just like to remind everyone that at 1:10 when Sam came into the room he is no longer Frodo’s gardener, he’s the MAYOR OF THE SHIRE, a position he’d hold for seven consecutive seven-year-terms, and yet he still calls Frodo “Mister Frodo”.
Wow!
@@ayaankhan7576 he's wrong in that
while it's true that Sam does become Mayor, he becomes Mayor after Frodo leaves. Sam is elected in SR 1427 (Shire Reckoning, 4th age).
Frodo leaves Middle Earth SR 1421
@@stevesmith1383 ok
Well that explains why Sam looks more dressed up.
@@stevesmith1383 That's true in the books, but if you actually read what Frodo's writing in this scene it says "Samwise Gamgee was elected may(or of) Hobbiton."
Frodo looks much paler and older here. He still looks pretty much the same, but you can see the tiredness and pain in his eyes. Not to mention how much older Bilbo looks...
In the books Frodo is old by our years anyway, he's 50 years old when he starts his journey, Aragorn is also 80 years old, Bilbo 100 and something.
The journey takes about 20 years
115 I think Cuz he was 111 on his birthday back in the fellowship of the ring
@@onyonable No,journey from Shire to Mordor and back takes only about 1.5 year actually.
@@twinkthatloveslotrtrilogy7676 i think he meant when frodo kept the ring for about 16-20 years before gandalf came?
On top of Frodo's PTSD, am I the only one who finds it sad seeing Bilbo at this point after watching the Hobbit movies? The gentle, kindly hobbit who managed to outsmart Gollum, elves, spiders, and a dragon having been reduced to a frail old empty shell of his former self who still has not gotten over his addiction to the Ring?
No, you're not. I'm really sad too.
Andrew Chung he does get to be his old self when hopping on the boat to the undying lands. You see he’s ready for another adventure
Nothing worst than power.
That's where we're all headed
He is very old even for hobbits also
To this day, the ending of Return of the King is so unique. So many bug franchises just end. ROTK goes the extra mile to show our heroes trying to reintegrate into normal life while realizing it can’t ever be the same.
That's what I like about Return of the King. The loose ends are tied up, their stories completed.
It breaks all rules of film making. You are not supposed to linger long after the climax in this way. You are not supposed to continue past fade to black, even worse is doing so several times in a row.
However in breaking the rules it gives us something unique, and it satisfies that feeling we all get of "I want a bit more" in a small way, which is very gratifying. ROTK ending(s) is like Jackson expecting everyone in the theater shouting "ENCORE!" over and over, and giving them those encores, until finally at the Grey Havens no more encores can be given, the story has well and truly ended.
It doesn't mean all films should linger like ROTK does, ROTK earns it by building on a 10-12 hours trilogy where we grow more attached to the characters than we would ever do during a normal film, however it does show that one shouldn't always follow the conventions either.
Of course the books break even more conventions, however the Lord of the Rings as a literary work is legendary for how little it cares for the conventions of the medium. It was made to satisfy the author, not critics, or even the audience and thus it cares little for conventional wisdom and carves its own path.
@@NATIK001 Its like a living book, that only cares for the story and not who reads it
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I think there's a lot of truth to that, because although the lord of the rings is a fantasy, it's born directly from Tolkien giving an outpouring of his lived experience of WW1. It's a book he wrote to console himself, I don't think he particularly cared if many people would read it, he was just glad that he wrote it.
It's not just physical battle. It's emotional anguish or grief and trauma. Once you have experienced loss, or had your eyes opened, you can't unsee things, and you're not quite the same person you were. It's like the deep melancholy that lives in my heart since my younger brother died.
I’m sorry to hear that.
Sorry to hear of your loss.
I totally agree with yoù. Especially when it comes to the loss of a loved one, there is no going back and nothing is the same anymore.
2:20 God, that scene breaks me up. Bilbo stills want the ring so bad, his life will not be the same, he's damaged forever. And Frodo knows, because he feels the same. They both damaged, and they need to heal. That's why they're leaving
look at how peaceful he is without it tho. thats the true victory. Atleast he can just disregard the desire easily now.
Not only that, the Ring extended their lives unnaturally. Frodo's stab wound from the Nazgul never healed too. Also, Bilbo and Frodo saved the world so they deserve to live in the Undying Lands which is basically Heaven
I think for Frodo it is worse. Bilbo still believes he might see the ring again. Frodo knows not only has the ring been destroyed but ultimately he failed when it was time to throw it into the Crack of Doom
The thing is, he will be healed; he's traveling to the undying lands, one of only two mortals allowed to do so, and they're both hobbits! Superb!
Bilbo perks up when he sees the boats, excited for one more adventure, and Frodo smiles for the first time in a long time. Both are going to be healed in the undying lands
Frodo has the most peaceful and serene, yet slightly sickly look in these final scenes. Very fitting!
His stab wound by the Nazgul never healed.
@@ShadowMoon878 Yes.
nope look at his expression and especially his eyes
Well said
He seemed a lot better once he boarded the ship to Valinor
When I've finish watching 10 hours of LOTR I ask myself the same thing, Frodo. "How do you go on?" It's such a good trilogy I feel empty inside when it's over... I want more!
+Allison Skurat if you haven't read the books there's always lots in there if you life.
Read the Silmarillion. There are a lot of things in there that might satisfy you...for a while at least
I want one more book. One where Sam makes the journey to the Grey Havens. My life would be complete
Well, at least we have fanfiction. And if I wanted one more book, it would be on Frodo and his time spent in the Undying Lands. :)
true
The "How do you pick up the threads of an old life?..." quote resonates so hard with me as someone trying to get over depression. You can never truly go back to the way you were before.
Or, a bunch of things changing in your life over a period of time, and years later, you come back to a place you visited or lived in childhood, and nothing is quite the same as it was.
SusantheRestorer
This is exactly why, after I left my childhood home for the last time, I've avoided seeing it ever again (and will continue to do so for the rest of my life), even though it's close by.
I know that it wouldn't be the same, and that I wouldn't be able to bear it.
If your life is in tatters, either you sew new threads or make an new garment.
@@susantherestorer Yes I relate to that as well. When my parents got divorced and sold the house I grew up I found myself thinking about the quote from LOTR. I tried to pick up the pieces of my old life as much as I could but in my heart I knew it was never going to be the same.
@@CaffeineDeprivation, just because you run physically doesn't mean you can/will get anywhere mentally.
Knowing bilbo’s story, it made every scene with him in lord of the rings that much more impactful, and it breaks my heart to see how old he becomes now that the ring’s effects have nearly worn off completely
I mean, he lived to be a grand old man by his folks standard. He lived a great life, full of adventure, and joy and grief and peace. I dont feel too bad for him at all, aside from maybe the fact that even now the rings taint lingers on him, even if only faintly. While he wishes to see it again, he isnt that upset that he cant.
I remember the impact on my ring after I had a vindaloo last week.
@@Rswipes83 One Ring to poo them all
@@chrishubbard64 Ya i feel like it brought him better memoires of the adventure he had rather then the effects of it as he got older
“Tell me again, where are we going?”
“To the harbor, Ian. The Elves have accorded you a special honor; a place on the last ship to leave Middle Earth.”
RIP Ian holme. A truly incredible person
And he lived happily ever after, till the end of his days.
@@steveross8364 We are talking about the actor Ian Holme who played Bilbo. He passed away
@@ShadowMoon878 Sorry, I missed that. I've deleted my earlier post and may I join you in remembering Ian Holm who was a great actor and his passing is a loss to us all.
@@steveross8364 His name was "Holm", with no "e".
I feel this endin'is a quote of J.R.R. to himself about his trauma and war
Perhaps, however Tolkien disliked allegory.
the themes carried over for sure tho
Brendan Sousa I hear that applicability was a thing that he liked though.
The Satisfied Ultramarine ye, especially when his friend was kill. Go on wiki
Brendan Sousa so did he sayed, but still his books have plenty of them
It’s almost like you can hear Tolkien himself speaking with Frodo’s voice.
I know this is an old comment, but as far as I am aware this quote is not actually from the book, as beautiful as it is.
There and Back Again: A Hobbit’s Tale, by Bilbo Baggins
The Lord of The Rings, by Frodo Baggins
The Unfinished Tales, by Samwise Gamgee
The Silmarillion, by Bilbo Baggins
Its a shame that the actor who played Bilbo Baggins has passed away today! Rest in Peace!
Fall of Gondolin, by Farmer Maggot
Beren and Luthien, by Bill the Pony
The Tales of knocking up the barmaid by Samwise Gamgee
"I'm sorry uncle... I'm afraid I lost it." Yeah, basically xD
Raymond Alcantara well technically he's right since he didn't toss it into the fire intentionlly but "lost" it while fighting with gollum. We will never know if Frodo would have had the strenghth to throw it into the fire. We don't even know how he feels about the ring now since we last saw him wanting to keep it for himself. So he might be honest when he apologizes to bilbo for losing it.
Raymond Alcantara yeah true. But then again, that needed to happen. The ring needed to be destroyed. So even if he didn't throw it in the fire, it was still destroyed.
According to Tolkien getting the ring to Mount Doom was as much as Frodo could do, but no more. The only Eru (the creator God within LOTR) intervened directly was when he made Gollum trip.
+Very Nice We actually know. In the book it says that “It is gone forever and now all is dark and empty” A part of him misses the Ring. Tolkien said that Frodo had actually become a slave of the Ring; Eru came to help to destroy it, but the Ring won its battle of will with Frodo, as it did with Gollum and Bilbo and this scene proves it: none of them could avoid regretting its loss.
And good riddance...
"There are some things that time cannot mend" when I first watched this scene as a kid when it first came out, I thought he just meant when he was stabbed on Weathertop and stung by Shelob but now as an adult, I realise that the journey to Mordor took it's toll on Frodo and messed him up mentally (when I say that, I mean he was never the same hobbit he was before he left the Shire). Even though the other hobbits were able to go back to their normal lives, sadly for Frodo that was not the case hence why he had to go to the Grey Havens to find peace and be healed.
Yeah the ring took a toll on him spiritually, twisting him in many ways, plus the stabbing on Weathertop, being bitten by Shelob, and just all that he experienced certainly broke him down physically and and spiritually. One of the reasons it can be argued that Sam is the real hero of the tale is that Sam endured most of the same hardships as Frodo but managed to move on and rebuild a happy life and even Merry and Pippen managed to live relatively normal lives. Just as some people are likely more susceptible to PTSD than others, Frodo appears to be someone who perhaps can't move past certain things and will always be troubled by what he saw and did. I suspect too that Frodo is also always haunted that had it not been for Gollum, Frodo's weakness at the last moment might have doomed them all, and he can't forgive himself for that making it even harder to heal and move on.
@@kentvesser9484 I always forget about that moment where Frodo got possessed by the ring, that will have played on his mind that it was actually gollum that destroyed the ring (by accident) and not Frodo, he would have felt like he failed and a fraud
@@kentvesser9484 while i agree that it was largely Sam who was the true hero, you cant really argue that he underwent the same hardship. yes they shared the same experiences, but while Sam's greatest hardship was witnessing his friends suffering and deteriorating strength, Frodo had to undergo all those trials while simultaneously attempting (and ultimately failing due to his fatigue and reduced physical state) to resist the rings temptations. I believe thats also largely why Frodo chose to leave middle earth in the end, since he had endured the same mental deterioration as bilbo (as well as having to shoulder the burden of the knowledge that, had it not been for his friend AND the intervention of an enemy, he would ultimately have failed) while also suffering some truely horrendous wounds.
@@mashpolson1, always interesting when a bad guy winds up saving the world.
I'm reminded of "Servant Of The Shard" by RA Salvatore.
"Not quite. There's room for a little more"
thus ended filming for the greatest trilogy of all time....😢😍
The Unfinished Tales by Samwise Gamgee. XD
For those who don't understand, that was actually the last scene filmed in the trilogy.
@@commenting_ottershot in 2000?
It's crazy how themes and scenarios in fantasy stories are more real than one may tend to think. Every part of life is like a new chapter in the Grand Story.
You are so true! I was thinking just yet!
"Bilbo kinda forgot about Frodo setting out to destroy the Ring"
Haha, true. In the book he's part of the council of Elrond. I guess he completely forgot at this point which is understandable
fuck imagine if Dunce & Douche actually thought this thing up
He does seem to be senile by that point, to be fair to him.
He was almost 200 years at that point
Although not so in the books. He remembers it on his own after momentarily forgetting.
some grief never ends; the deeper and longer you've loved, the longer it takes, some of us don't have that much time.
Rest in peace, Ian Holm. (1931-2020)
After you watch all 6 movies in a row and to come to this scene it means so much more, it really made me cry and all these flashbacks of Bilbo & the dwarves in Bag End went through my head. It all began here in Bag End.
It began in hole in the ground and that's were it also ends...
Really beautiful and powerfull scene!!! Middle Earth forever
i agree Ziggy... this ending to all 6 films is one of the greatest scenes ever...
ziggycardon Beautifully said. I'm waiting on the extended of BOTFA to have a 6 video marathon. Its going to be so emotional for me.
You're not the only one waiting eagerly for the extended edition of the BotFA.
The things that are confirmed to be in it are just amazing :D
ziggycardon Oh ya? Like what? I've only heard rumors.
MDkid1
- Gandalf seeing a vision in the palantir of what would happen if Smaug joins forces with Sauron, we see Smaug leading an army of orcs to war.
- More battle of Dol Guldur
- More Beorn during the Battle
- More scenes of the orcs marching as seen in the trailers
- There is a chance that the chariot scene from the trailer is included but that's not sure.
- Thorin's funeral and Thranduil getting his gems
- Dain's coronation
- An extended return journey (I hope)
- And Smaug destroying the windlance in Lake-Town, and probably a bit longer destruction of the city too
Here's the thing. A few years pass between Sam's marriage and this scene. I truly believe that Frodo tried to find peace. But deep down, he knew he couldn't. He was stabbed by a Morgul blade, he kept the Ring for quite a while and it put him at the absoluteedge of madness. Sure it was destroyed, but for Frodo, the damage had already been done. His wound from the Witch King never fully healed and the mental damage from carrying the Ring left him with a deep psychological scar. He knew that despite his efforts, he'd find no peace in The Shire
The appendixes of the books reveal that Frodo kept getting sick from the wound. He needed Elrond’s magic to treat it every time.
@@khfan4life365To be stabbed by an evil weapon wielded by an evil being. A wound like that doesn't just fade away. So sad
The one thing that makes this a triumph of a finale, is ironically the melancholy. That even with victory the world has changed too much that it can never be what it once was and we have to humble ourselves.
"...I do not expect' history' to be anything but a 'long defeat' - though it contains some samples or glimpses of final victory.” - JRR Tolkien
To me this scene works without "The Scouring." Because after seeing the larger world this paradise preserved becomes tiny and precious and serving as a contrast to a world wary soul articulates that lose just as fine.
Yes, while seeing the scouring might have been interesting in some ways, seeing it and then flashing forward four years would have probably been too jarring.
What I love about this is the fact that Lotr was such an ‘optimistic’ story. Almost all the heroes survive and all evil is conveniently vanquished. But its this one point the movie tells us that it isnt always the case. No matter how optimistic you are, no matter how hard you want it, some things will never change and some changes you can never revert.
As someone whos walked with Schizophrenia for 20 years now, I cry every time I watch this scene. Ive been fighting a war with this personality that isn't my own for so long. The caring and loving and charismatic and full of life my 14 year old self had is still trapped within.
This shadow of self doubt and hatred is merely a shell of who I am, yet every day, I realize that I'm sick and am never getting better. The one thing I had was my ability to calculate and understand complex puzzles/logics which helped me to be good in my career, but now as I reach the half way point of life, I'm slowing down considerably. Im begginning to realize I'm never going to get out of this.
I can hear them. I can feel them closing in all around me. One day I hope I'll find my way back again and wake up. No amount of success in my career or life is going to fix this unhappiness. I'm just hollow.
I have such a hard time watching this clip. It ruins me.
I cried reading this.. and I cry every time I watch this, too..
I'm into my 6th year of wandering aimlessly in a dense fog of heavy torrential mental illness that I know not what to call. I'm 24 now
I wonder if I too will reach 20 years from now without finding my way out and back into living
We carry burdens just as Frodo did
No matter how long we carry them or how heavy they become we have to keep going
And we can't forget those in our life who want to help us, even if we push them away and hurt them in our suffering
Those who truly love us will understand and will still carry us when we need it.
Stay strong, I wish you love and strength and peace, SovereignVoid. Keep going.
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As someone who's battling his own inner (and outer) demons for more than 10 years I cried for both of you, myself and souls like Frodo. I'm 25 now and I don't know if I will ever find peace and meaning in my life, but I pray that those who suffer like you can smile again in this life and the after. This is why i really like Frodo, he's such a tragic and deep character. Only after getting through some true pain and suffering you begin to understand him.
It’s been a year since you made this comment, and I will never know your true pain, but just know that I’m thinking of you and praying for you. I truly hope that you find some solace, my friend.
Life sucks 😢
Please, ask God for help because He is the one who helps 🙏🙏 i will tell you the truth, you don't hear your head, you do hear voices, but evil ones, of the evil spirits. And God will help you. Don't try to fight it alone, it is a trap to try to fight not calling God for help 😢 but He is the one who made Heaven and Earth, of whom we shall be afraid?
That moment when you realize Frodo named his story/journey after the bad guy. Irony...
Full title of the book is 'The Downfall of the Lord Of The Rings And The Return Of The King'.
+Bloodlyshiva I meant the overall series in general.
+Kargath Bladefist (WoD) Okay I don't get your point. The full title is not named after the bad guy, so what are you complaining about?
Xiran Wang Sauron was The Lord of the Rings.
there and back again!
This scene just got even more poignant for Bilbo.
RIP Ian Holm (1931-2020)
As someone with C-PTSD, this scene, and Frodo as a character truly speaks to me.
It’s wild watching the LOTR trilogy as a child, then re-watching it as an adult with more life experience, baggage than what most people might have, and an entirely new point of view on life and existence as a whole.
As a child, watching LOTR was epic because it had elves, wizards, and great battles. I loved those things and thought it was super cool.
Watching it now, as an adult, when you finally understand the symbolism behind so much of the characters, how the events that occurred in Middle-earth mirrors a lot of Tolkien’s own life experiences and inner thoughts, it hits really close to home. As someone who experienced prolonged trauma for many, many years, the way Frodo evolves as a character and tries to go back to his old self and old way of life, only to realize that he can’t and never will speaks to me in such a way that it leaves this almost bittersweet feeling in me. It hurts to think about, but it is so comforting to see something in media portraying those thoughts and emotions so well. It hits close to home in a very painful yet comforting way. Perhaps a reminder to myself that, despite of how hard I’d try, I would never, ever go back to my old way of life after what I have experienced. But that’s okay. Perhaps, one is not meant to after such things, but to find a new way to live despite of the old wounds aching from time to time.
Frodo stepping on the boat, to me, is what it feels like to finally accept your circumstances. It is what it is. You journey into something new, something that will perhaps finally bring you inner peace, even if you have to leave some old things behind because you can never truly go back to those things and live like you once did.
I truly love Tolkien and his work. I feel so lucky to be alive at a time where I can read his works and watch the LOTR trilogy whenever I feel like it. Not only that, but I live in a time where I can find comfort in that fictional world and draw inspiration from it when things become dark and my past experiences weigh down on me.
Just found out that this was Elijah's last scene as well. so emotional.
@@muggensan8611not true, look up Elijah woods last day on set, it’s this scene
its funny how Game of Thrones tried to copy this with Sam (funny enough) writing a book called the Game of Thrones at the end, but it didn't have any impact whatsoever.
omg I completely forgot about that *puke*
Everytime I think about that, my blood starts to boil. Not only does it piss me off for the fact it's very clear this was Dumb and Dumber's cheap tact on way of saying "We did it! We completed the story!" but to essentially plagiarize not just the film but also Tolkien's work, something that Martin was against doing since he wrote the books years before, is just disgusting, and this is one of the many things that made me realize that they just didn't care!
They called it A Song Of Ice And Fire.
Seeing this ending is all the sadder when you re-watch the beginning of Fellowship and look at Frodo then. He's so happy, full of life and genuinely looks like he's never had a hard moment in his life. Yet by the end he's tired, broken and depressed. A perfect reflection of how the men who fought during World War I felt before and after their service.
This scene brilliantly shows why Bilbo as well as Frodo has to go to the West. The ring bearers are forever damaged by the Ring; it tempts Bilbo even after its destruction. Only grace can heal the wounds evil scars us with.
2:43 first time in cinema, all of us braced ourselves when we were waiting for Bilbo to scare Frodo like before
And even Sam, when it's time, goes to join them.
I've always said that Time doesn't heal all wounds...but it does a pretty good job of stitching the worst of them up.
That's beautiful
Thousands of postwar suicides among veterans gives this the lie. The luck ones heal. Only the lucky ones.
If JRR Tolkien would still be alive after he wrote his LOTR. We would have another epicness!
we do, it is called the silmarillion, but it is so complex and so dense it is far too difficult to be translated into visual media
“How do you pick up the threads of an old life? How do you go on, when in your heart you begin to understand... there is no going back? There are some things that time cannot mend. Some hurts that go too deep, that have taken hold.”
After a decade of severe depression, PTSD, suicidal thoughts and endless battles and turmoil with my innermost demons, I'd want nothing other than return to who I was at 15, when I listened to this line for the first time and couldn't comprehend any bit of it.
You will be right
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2:31 Frodo: "FUCK"
This is the saddest part Of "The Return of the King"
it's so sad to see bilbo still so attached to the One Ring even though he had the willpower to give it up in the first place. After seeing this, you get a whole new idea of the horror of the One Ring and of its master. No wonder it corrupted the hearts of Isildur, Smeagol, Boromir, and even Frodo. Galadriel herself, the most powerful of the elves, felt drawn to it. Even after its demise and destruction, Bilbo felt drawn to it, though it is nonexistent. Absolutely mind-blowing.
actually, he was kinda intimidated by gandalf to give the ring up.
@@felipemoreira7024 yeah, but even the fact that he could be intimidated into giving it up shows that the hold the Ring hat over him was not complete. I don’t think that Sméagol would have just given it up, for example. Or Boromir. Maybe not even Galadriel, if she had it in her possession and Gandalf asked her to give it up. Bilbo did and he didn’t fight, I think that shows his strength.
@@LI-xv7uq he was almost threatened by a powerful Maia wilder of a ring of his own... He had no choice basically. Gandalf wouldnt allow him to leave with the ring if he refused to give it up. But i get your point
2:43 I thought Bilbo was going to scare Frodo like before
i feel like frodo did. something bad happened to me early this year and i got traumatized so bad that even terapy doesnt help. i always wanted to go back feeling like i felt before the incident, feeling llike a human being, but like Frodo said. there isnt going back , and i am so sad
***** ty for the kind words :)
Just over 2 years ago I lost my wife, kids, job, and a sense of being. A very painful chapter. I obsessed over going back and remembering the past. You know what? As the song by skinny puppy says there is no going back, you change. Remember in the Hobbit where Gandalf says "... and if you do come back you won't be the same?" I am in a new chapter of my life and things are better now only after I accepted my loss and moved forward FAST. You will be a stronger person and be in places you need to be only after becoming stronger. If I didn't lose all I had I couldn't give you this advice today :-) There is purpose in life and who you are changes. That is all that is meant. Move forward and whatever you do NEVER LOOK BACK.
sinistertim101 thank you for your inspiring words.
and TheIntunecatu you're not alone, I had a horrible incident occur only two years ago. I only started going back to my regular life this year. Its hard, and its never going to be the same. I haven't healed yet, so I can't advise you.
But, I'm still struggling, and trying. Just never give up. Always dream of a better tomorrow, and use movies or books such as the LOTR to motivate you! :)
TheIntunecatu Shadealade sinistertim101 I can understand your pain in part, several years ago there were a series of very painful events that I went through and that have changed my life forever. Think about what Gandalf says when trying to remember the path to Kazad'um, so do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide, all we can decide is what to do with time given us." Also consider the following correlation from The Screwtape Letters, that, in order to torture his "patient" the most Wormwood keeps him focused in the past, focusing on his pain. Keep in mind, though, that, as painful as any incident is, we must accept it as the past and, learning from the endurance which must be used to continue, apply it to our future, not as a curse but as a way to see the world differently, define ourselves, and find what we truly believe in. May the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, be with you, and may you be able to use these circumstances to find your logos, your true meaning, that you will see how you can continue and live your life meaningfully.
sometimes you just need a miracle. im not promoting any religion, but god does exist and can heal you. try praying
definitely the best way to end such trilogy. i love how this story gives time to the character to decide their fate, and not just abruptly end after victory is achieved. the progression and dynamic of the characters are far more important than just series of events and that's what makes the story relatable and so dear to many of us
So heartfelt when Bilbo asks if Frodo still has the ring.. "should have liked to have held it one last time"
I must cry when I watch this. Frodo is my favorite character and this friendship between him and Sam is amazing. I love his smile.
When we take two artifacts from the movie that represent our own collective journeys, it's the ring and the ship which leaves for Valinor. The ring is that thing in the physical world we view as valuable, though it is designed for our demise as we cave in to desire and avarice. The ship is the ascent into Heaven where all of our mortal sorrows are washed away after the trauma of the war of our own lives. In the end, the ship wins over the ring, and we will all make that final journey. There is a ship waiting for all of us.
i really hope so dude
Actually , only through Jesus, God's Son, can you make it into heaven. But just think, you don't have to earn your way into heaven!
We all must earn our way into the heaven we choose. Maybe it's is not Christian or Muslim or Jewish, but whatever you believe heaven is like, the one you'd like to go to, you must earn your way into it by living your life to the fullest. Live as you believe is right and you will end up where you want to end up. Just as frodo did. Through pain and sacrifice he delivered evil to its final resting place and through that pain and sacrifice was granted entry into his own heaven. And bilbo managed to carry the ring long enough to pass it onto the one who would do that task, and through his own sacrifice, bearing that burden without letting it totally poison his mind, he is granted bliss in heaven as well. There is a lesson here. Even if you do not sacrifice something, your life accomplishments or lack thereof will determine where you go when you are done based on what you believe in.
"The sails were drawn up, and the wind blew, and slowly the ship slipped away down the long grey firth; and the light of the glass of Galadriel that Frodo bore glimmered and was lost. And the ship went out into the High Sea and passed on into the West, until at last on a night of rain Frodo smelled a sweet fragrance on the air and heard the sound of singing that came over the water. And then it seemed to him that as in his dream in the house of Bombadil, the grey rain-curtain turned all to silver glass and was rolled back, and he beheld white shores and beyond them a far green country under a swift sunrise."
-- J.R.R. Tolkien, _The Return of the King._
*“How do you pick up the threads of an old life? How do you go on, when in your heart you begin to understand there is no going back? There are some things that time cannot mend. Some hurts that go too deep, that have taken hold.”*
He’s finally home, and yet you can still feel the pain in Frodo’s voice and know that deep inside after everything he’s been through, he’s still suffering. Just shows how much an unexpected journey can change you.
Was I the only one somewhat expecting bilbo to freak out again when he asked about the ring?
Tolkien based this from his experience of coming back home after WWI. In his eyes, he was a stranger in a changed land, which is what he conveyed into Frodo's return to the Shire.
Indeed, the perspective missing in the Jackson adaptation is that Tolkien saw not just himself changed, but the very lands. The Scouring of the Shire combined with Frodo's experiences to show both how Britain and Tolkien himself changed during the years leading up to the first world war as well as during the war and especially after.
The Hobbits and the Shire exemplify what Tolkien truly found best in the world, and the attacks on them and their lifestyle mirrored what Tolkien felt about real world events.
In a way, the fact that the war doesn't reach the Shire in Jackson's adaptation undermines the true melancholy of Tolkien's Lord of the Rings. Tolkien's work has nowhere left safe and unharmed, because he doesn't feel anywhere can escape momentous events and change, even if he wish some places would be spared.
From 0:00 - 0:48, that's how JRR Tolkien most have felt after he came back from WWI...
That generation was often referred to as the Lost Generation in literature as that war not only killed so many of them, but so many that came home from the war never really recovered. Some were fortunate like Sam to come home and resume a normal life without outward signs of trauma, but others struggled with the physical and emotional scars of the war and were further disillusioned when the cause they fought for seemed like such a lie within only a few years regardless of which side they fought on.
@@V3ct0r_S1gm4 They restore the Shire by ending the reign of Saruman and his cronies, and the Shire gets back to its old, happy ways. It is Frodo, however, who cannot recover from the adverse effects of his adventures, which is why he leaves.
The speech by Frodo, Powerful words.
"How do you pick up the threads of an old life? How do you go on...when in your heart you begin to understand...there is no going back? There are some things that time cannot mend. Some hurts that go too deep...that have taken hold."
I hope most people never truly understand what those words mean.
@Dominatus Hydra,
damn...sorry
I may never truly understand, but with glimpses and visions into what lies beyond that veil, I can happily say I never wish to.
It is the folly of humanity, in we will always seek out wisdom. But too often do we mistake that which is learned, for that which is experienced.
@@etherdeef4303,
wow, that's like profound
In the the Lord of the Rings trilogy,JRR Tolkien was writing about how his time as a soldier in WW1 affected him.
The lack of mental health care available at that time meant his was unable/uncomfortable with putting his thoughts into words.
The feeling of isolation and and loneliness of returning from the carnage of battle to find that little has changed, no-one knows what to say to you so they keep their distance, Tolkien describes well.
I Lost my Grandfather 3 Days ago, i haven't slept for 48 hours, just bawling My eyes out. I missed saying goodbye to him with 1 hour. I wanted to say so many things to him before he died, that i loved him so goddamn much and how much he means to me.
I haven't been the greatest of grandchildren because i haven't seen him as much as i should have.
I wish to Forever spend time with him now, telling me stories of him back in WW2, how he met granny. Just His life.
But now it is too late, and i have to live with that. :(
how are you doing?
PTSD
Yeah, big time....
Sam: Mister Frodo? What’s in this book?
Frodo: Spoilers of The Hobbit’s trilogy Sam!
Rings of Powers.
NOOOO!!!!!!
What a great story. Based off of World War One. Young men who had been through hell and back. Only to be greeted by people who didn't see them as heros. A sad but happy ending.
If you read around and read some of Tolkien's forewords and stuff like that I'm almost certain he explicitly mentions at some point that it's not really a reflection of World War One as such - I mean, it is, but that wasn't his sole intention or purpose. It was more about showing the Viking way of telling tales and stories, passing those down through the ages verbally and the creation of myths and memories through this. This scene paints that quite clear I think with the mentioning of adventure and the writing of the book. Obviously everything is down to interpretation - but that's the main thing I got having studied a whole module on Viking literature whilst at university.
World War I and II veterans were VERY MUCH welcomed back as heroes (you might be confusing the whole "didn't see them as heroes" thing with Vietnam). That was not Tolkien's point. Tolkien's point is exactly what Frodo says: even if you manage to survive hell on earth, even if you come back home and find everything exactly the same as it was before... you can never truly go back to your old life; you've been thru too muc; you've changed too much; the innocence you once had is completely gone. Like Frodo says "there are some wounds that time cannot mend".
Remember they brought the Spanish flu back with them from the front . . . so the world was very quickly occupied with yet another tragedy. And time moves quickly.
He’s such a beautiful character, so well written, you can relate to him on certain levels and I adore it.
My favorite end dialogue of all time...Most beautiful scene in any movie when you watch them as a continuous journey...It pulls on all heartstrings
When bilbo said one last time... #onelasttime for battle of five armies, man!
Such relatable lines, so beautifully put into words. Makes me want to weep, truly.
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"there's room for a little more" as with every story, there's always room for more.
0:43 There tons of stuff form the book! That's amazing 10/10 Petr Jackson!
My best friend, my àgape, all I had wished for in life, died yesterday in a bike accident that was totally not his fault. He was 37,a total Lotr fan, we watched it together so many times...
Few understand that Frodo HAD to go to the Undying Lands. His life was saved by athelas, and Elrond's (and Arwen, in the movie) magic, and toxicity ameliorated, but a Morgul-blade's tip breaks off with stabbing and the tip slowly finds its way to the victim's heart and kills them dead.
That's why Frodo says his wound has never healed, he looks like hell on the anniversary, and only the Undying Lands will relieve his suffering and prolong this life.
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RIP Ian Holm. Thank you for your amazing performance in two amazing trilogies.
Death is just another path. One that we all must take.
The actor that played Bilbo has passed away today! Rest In Peace! Looks like you are now on a very permanent beautiful adventure!!
RIP IAN HOLM
"How can you pick up the threads of an old life? How do you go on when, in your heart, you begin to understand there is no going back? There are some things time cannot mend, some hurts that go too deep, that have taken hold."
WW1 really shaped the way an entire generation of men understood trauma. Rest in peace, Tolkien.
Frodo couldn't cope with the trauma of his journey and it affected him mentally and physically and Gandalf saw this and allowed Frodo to go with him, Bilbo, Elrond and Galadriel to the Grey Havens. Frodo didn't go there to die, but to find peace.
It's not really morgul blade or any of the wear and tear on the way that wounded him deeply. The thing that's really shaken him is the fact that when the moment of truth came he chose the Ring over the Shire or his friends or anything else. Sure Middle Earth was saved and he gets credit for carried the ring 99.9% of the way there, but he failed himself at the last step and saw a glimpse of who he really could be when tested to the limit and that's why he feels dead inside.
It was a culmination of _all_ those terrible traumas....both physical and psychological...
Not only that but he also wants the ring back, like Bilbo asking for it at the end, Frodo still has a desire for it which will never go away.
Nope. He didn't want the Ring back, He wants what the Ring TOOK from him. In the end, at Mount Doom, the Ring was at its MOST POWERFUL. He was already shattered by all the suffering + the Ring doing its worst to control him. When it finally WON the battle of the Will against him, it took part of his soul, as in that part that had kept the ring under control. To be corrupted and destroyed and tormented for keeping It from its owner (Sauron). The same part it took from Gollum and from Bilbo.
These three characters are the results of what would happen to someone (not Sauron) that actually had the Ring. But, get this: Neither Bilbo or Gollum had the Ring when it was doing its utmost to get back to Sauron. It perverted Gollum, so it took care of it and, in time, by perverting Gollum, it would see itself back to its owner. Bilbo was made of Stronger material, and yet the Ring nearly corrupted him. Bilbo is lucky he only used the thing very few times throughout the years. He was addicted to it, but not like Gollum whose very existence depended on it by the very end.
Frodo was under the influence of the Ring the less. But the RIng was at its most powerful, doing its utmost to get back to Sauron AND yet it only WON against Frodo's will when he was completely exhausted, physically and mentally destroyed, in the place of its forge...at the 'moment of truth,' as you called, NO ONE would have WON AGAINST THAT RING. NO ONE, if you were touching that thing, it would take you over (why do you think Isuldur, a PURE descendant of Numenor, way before its people diminished to be barely comparable to normal men failed so hard against that Ring when he had the chance to destroy it at the end of the Second Era?)....and thus why Gollum was so important. Both Bilbo and Frodo's COMPASSION saved the day when they let Gollum live. Remember, Sam wanted to KILL Gollum...and nearly did. When you get this, you see that even the importance of every single character and how they complete the history by being there and their actions.
Of course he wants what the ring took from him back but there's a little part of him that wants the ring back. Let's not forget that when the time finally came, when he reached the end he refused to destroy it, he completely succumbed to its power and that moment corrupted him forever. That's why the line "I lost it" has double meaning, he doesn't want to reveal to Bilbo the whole truth but it's also what he truly means anyway, he lost it, he didn't get rid of it, he didn't destroy it. Also as you said yourself the ring did pretty nasty stuff to Bilbo and Smeagol, they both wanted the ring back way after it wasn't with them anymore, Biblo wanted it back years after it got destroyed, why wouldn't Frodo be affected in the same way? Of course he didn't have it for such a long time as both Bilbo and Smeagol but as you already mentioned, he carried it for a longer time when it was in its most powerful state, longer that both previous owners. There defeinitely is a little part of himself that still wants it. I mean you said it yourself, no one could have won against that ring, that's how strong was its power to corrupt, during the story even people who never used or never carried it, wanted the ring more than anything. The longer the ring is in someone's possession, the more addicted they become to it, the ring was pure addiction and desire. As with all addiction, there's always that lingering feeling to go back and do it again, it might not be as powerful as before but the desire never really goes away.
@@TSEDLE333 "NO ONE would have WON AGAINST THAT RING. NO ONE"
Tom Bombadil: Am I a joke to you?
Oh, yay! 0:42 Sam became mayor of Hobbiton! Even better ending for my favourite character! :)
That's not his ending, after Rosie died he took the last ship to go west together with Cirdan . He was allowed to do that because he's also a Ringbearer.
he joins frodo later in 'hobbit hospice' after his wife passes, and time takes its toll on him.
@@aaronbuffalo7769 Part of how Sam managed is that he had Rosie and was able to reboot his life afterwards. Perhaps Frodo could have tried moving on, but it sounds like his heart simply wasn't in it. Sam kind of used returning to the Shire and to Rosie as a way to keep some hope in his heart even in the bleakest times. Frodo seemed to lose hope that he would return and when he survived, he just didn't have any idea of what to do to move on. There was something in Frodo's character that made him the right person to carry the ring to Mordor, but perhaps that same character trait made it such that once that mission was done he was spent as well.
He served as Mayor of the Shire for seven terms. That, however, was not the end. He sailed off to Valinor as well, at the age of 102.
Frodo has went through and endured to much after his adventures. He’s been worn down by his experience. Frodo still had that scar from his wound by the Nazgûl at Weathertop (something everyone else knew wouldn’t heal) a reminder of his adventure.
"How do you pick up the threads of an old life? How do you go on.....when in your heart you begin to understand: there is no going back. There are some things time cannot mend. Some hurts that go too deep...that have taken hold." This is the most true thing I have ever heard.
As someone who has PTSD from Iraq, you lose a part of your soul in war if you’re a good person with deep feelings. I’ve never been able to shake what I’ve seen and done and i never will. I can only manage
Well, maybe if you did not invade Iraq for the sake of a shit head George Bush, you wouldn't even have that. Now you live with the guilt
Rest In Peace, Sir Ian Holm (Bilbo Baggins), who also played Frodo in an amazing BBC Radio Drama.
I saw this movie when i was 12 , now im 31 and it still make me cry all the time, masterpiece.
"Oh...did you? I should've held it one last time."
#onelasttime
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+i wanna be a cream puff If they wanted to be funny, they should've inserted that scary Bilbo face moment here, one last time as well. That would have been both hilarious and out of place.
+Nathan Barnes XD
Nathan Barnes It felt sad enough to me, like Bilbo was still affected by it, would be disturbing if they made him do that face.
pity*
Def understand. When you go through something that is life changing, you can never go back to how you were before. I can relate.
I saw the movies before I had read the books and I didn't really understand where Frodo was going. My husband explained it to me after I finished the books and rewatched the trilogy and the ending is just heartbreaking. Bittersweet, powerful, heartbreaking.
SUCH. GREAT. MOVIES.
For some reason, the first minute of this is among my top 10 chunks/cues from the trilogy....the laid back reminiscence on past traumas and victories....it's so great it's hard to explain in words
1:35 Ah he said it! He said it! He said the thing!!
Nathan Jones "Roll credits"
Omfg we will never ever see something like lotrs ….I cry every time I rewatch it and I’m not an emotional human what a masterpiece
2:42 you could tell Bilbo wanted to do his freaky snarl again, but he's just too old and tired af
Rest in Peace Ian Holm 1931-2020
this is seems to be Tolkien's own description of war, though the one he fought in was far less glorious than that he describes in his novels. the first world war must have been a truly terrible thing to experience
This is my favourite scene, those lines from Frodo at the start are my favourite in the whole trilogy
This scene has always been more than just Frodo's farewell to me. The journey to the Grey Havens struck me as not only sad, but strangely creepy, as if they were not just leaving Middle-earth, but going to their deaths, as a form of suicide that is, however, peaceful. And as someone struggeling with depression since childhood, this scene makes my cry in a way I cannot explain. It makes me wonder how the Grey Havens look like and what they're going to do when they there.
I read this book 2-3 times in my youth and at least once more as an adult and the ending breaks me every time. They really did capture it so well in the film. The trilogy is a masterpiece
There are some things time cannot mend. Some hurts that go too deep.
Who is here after the got's finale episode ?
it's nuts that they pull the exact same shot where Frodo leaving at the port in that episode as well.
Me
Of course, i have to wash my eyes after GOT disaster.
me
I am always here enjoying those beautiful movies
Es increible lo que transmite esta saga solo con su banda sonora, la mejor historia de todos los tiempos
0:00 the music in the background is just perfect......wow howard shore is a genius