He Laughed When I Said I Knew 25 Charlie Parker Solos!
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25 parker solos is absurd. Like that's a lot.
If you can play them by memory - and at tempo. See - that's impressive !!! But of course you need more than this to be a working musician
They weren’t laughing because they didn’t believe him
@@drda1626why were they laughing then ?
@@avyeris did you happen to watch the video?
@@drda1626 yes, he never explained why they laughed, only that he had memorized 26 solos. Is too many ? And if so why would they laugh ?
Vincent Herring . Love his sound. One of my favorite saxophonist.
Memorizing solos is fine but understanding why the notes in the solos were chosen is more valuable. Listen to everything that Barry Harris says.
Vincent Herring was in a practice room next to mine when I auditioned for the jazz band at Chico State Univ. Talk about being intimidated! I assumed everyone at the college level was playing at that caliber initially. When I came out of the practice room he saw my case and said “Alright, Tenor!” Needless to say I tanked my audition! I do remember him sounding like Charlie Parker and learning that he had memorized the Omnibook!
He stayed at Chico for one semester and then went to New York, probably just at the time of the story in this post.
I heard a story that shortly after arriving in NYC he walked up to Nat Adderley and said “I’m going to join your band” I have no idea if this is true, but he was certainly good enough!
He was from Vallejo and at a young age would travel to Berkeley to study with Hal Stein, who become a mentor to me later in life.
I spoke with Vincent about that studying with Hal at a jazz festival he was performing at in Oakland years ago. I think we both remember Hal fixing us sandwiches. I’m nowhere near his level playing-wise but he was as nice as could be!
I can hum All of the Solos on “Blues for Alice” from Memory. 👍
I've always played my own solos, but i listened to all the players live and on record.
That's pretty crazy if true in any way. I can remember at any one time, "most" of one solo (the one that I'm currently transcribing) and then snippets of solos I've learned before.
That's like being able to recite a short novel word for word.
the pentatonic line at the start in the background is genius, one of the most interesting in terms of the notes and harmony phrases i have heard, really cool
Good content for keen learners like myself
I try, though I can only get to one show a month... Maybe two if I'm lucky... Due to work. (could give up on sleep I suppose but... You know... Health, an all that)
Bro your awsome
I’d love to watch live shows, but I live in southern Illinois and barley any shows come through. Kenny G came by last year and that’s all I can think of. But what’s stopping me from traveling.
What’s stopping you from moving 😊
I live in Southern Illinois too. Saint Louis has a pretty good jazz scene and it’s not that far out of the way unless you’re way down and over
I’ve met some of my heroes in St. Louis
did he just say 'I told them I knew them solos by heart , they laughed and I didn't understand why. now I do so if you want to know you have to see people live...'? english is not my first language
I saw Lou Donaldson with Hermann Foster, piano, in Quasimodo’s in Berlin. By god he was miserable. I asked him so sign the record of his that I’d just bought. He refused 😢. Never mind, saw Lee Konitz with Harold Danko. Lee was so far out. My man. Shy but a wonderful man. I don’t know what had bitten Lou that day.
Vincent Herring is my #2 favorite alto player. I don't think that he would mind me saying that, especially after I tell him that my #1 favorite alto player is Cannonball Adderley
I’ve never heard of Charlie Parker until Spider-Man 2 came out, I honestly thought he wasn’t real.
You have a lot to catch up on. I envy you, I'd love to hear all the jazz greats for the first time, again. Enjoy!
You look like Coltrane 👍
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I didnt get why Lou was laughing and I dont agree with Vincent. But he s a master, that I dont have any doubt.
Sorry for my English, but i have not understand why he laughed..
I need aproximately 25 songs too, to play in an event like a wedding or so.
Sometimes less.. but, if i need more than this 20something that i have in my memory, then i start to read the next songs that i know but not so good.
I consider this, normal and necessary, to play in events.. or not?
It's like if a painter said "I can paint 25 Van Gogh pieces from memory." Sure, that's impressive, but what value is there in being an artist until you can make your own art? What value is there in being a jazz saxophonist until you can play your own solo?
Songs, learn them and play them because that's what you're meant to do, but solos are meant to be unique expressions of self. If you can only play someone else's solo, you aren't soloing
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Thank you very much Jake! I can understand now thanks your good explanation.
And i can say that has sense, specially under the optic of jazz players because his obsession with solos and improvisation. But i can say too, that if you can reach to play a single song, really good, this has a great value (with or less improvisation).. and much more if you can do this with a lot of songs.
Most people prefer songs near to the originals, not with improvisations that can deform songs and rub out his message and essences if they are exaggerated.
Thanks and kind regards from Argentina!
@@jakesawaguchi4928 Yes, the idea of learning jazz solos for most is to be able to emulate, probably not replicate.
Now I must admit, I spend most of my time copying what I hear rather than actually improvising, which I sef need to reevaluate.
@@HonestSaxSound-unEdited- Yesss -- your comment has a goof point: A melody has quality which can disappear in solos. Some other comment mentioned Barry Harris who emphasizes that soloing should be based on the melody, the character of the melody or of the arrangement.
I love classical music, and many musicians can improvise in "classical style" -- but the composer writes down when there is something extraordinary, something new, or a longer process, flow of events, which takes you into a world of imagination and human closeness. You never heard Parked improvise something close to a Mahler symphony - nor a passage from Mahler on par with a Parker solo.
The best classical musicians play as if they were improvising.
Not all students can see live
Alguém doando um sax?
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Does anybody know which tune he is playing in the video?
Not sure the exact tune, but it sounds like a blues (in concert F)
Sure do. 2 tunes come to mind Dance of the infidels by bud powell or sipping @ bells by miles davis. Go listen to the original version by the fuckin master, The amazing Bud Powell.
Still weird to laugh at that...
records or transcripts. Jazz is more than notes.
didnt bird himself learn from a single record in his shed? live music is expensive and far out many times
You need to hear live music in order to really grow as a musician. Something about seeing a musicians process in time is very educational. Records rarely ever capture an artist true essence
I learned 3 . That's all you need. He tended to repeat himself and use tons of cliches.
They weren’t cliche when he invented the language. 🤦🏻♂️
They only became cliche’ after Bird played them and others copied him. His musical imagination and the virtuosity necessary to play it, moved Jazz music and its musicians and lovers into new unexplored territories.
That's like saying hendrix used a lot of cliches. Like, who are you, buddy 🤣
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