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Fun And Useful Metronome Exercise with Mark Kelso
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2016
- Practicing along to a metronome has the reputation to be repetitive and boring, so here's a concept you can use whether your practicing rudiments, beats, fills, or a solo!
Mark Kelso explains how we sometimes rely too heavily on the metronome to supply the down beats for us - so why not own them ourselves? By placing the metronome on the off-beats, your awareness of time greatly improves.. And it's a ton of fun!
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i picked up this kind exercises from the first Benny Greb's dvd, it's really challenging at first but once you start practicing you can really feel the difference in your playing
Mark makes the metronome sound like a cool cat vibing with the music bobing its little mechanical head, swinging from side to side, shrugging its shoulders to the beat, dancing in place, looking cool...
This is also great for drummers who are playing with a click and no backtrack (as long he/she is the only one with the click in their ears). It can be a nightmare when you get a little off and need to rush or drag a beat to re-center it. If you've gotten comfortable with the click on every subdivision, you can just move the click to the nearest subdivision in your mind and keep going without breaking a sweat. Definitely gonna start utilizing this in my practice.
Four years later, I can say that this really helped me reach another level. This idea was new to me back then. I got in touch with Mark and got some great additional tips and ideas. What a great guy!
Mark, I met you when we were both playing at Bally's in Atlantic City, waaaaay back in 1984. You kicked ass then, both playing drums and singing, and it's a pleasure to hear you today. Always refining! Great work.
Wow this guy has impeccable groove. Nicely done, especially around 6:45 where he starts playing around with the 16th note placement of one. It actually makes playing with the click on one sound ridiculous and I definitely see what he means about boat anchoring.
I am reminded of when Harry Connick Jr. was playing a gig and his audience was clapping on the 1 and 3 so he got annoyed and used the music to add or subtract (I forget which) a measure to catch up. I don't even think the audience noticed but it was almost as impressive as this moment in 6:45
He adds this type of thing(where he starts playing around with the 16th note placement of one)to his solos
Fucking oath! do you happen to know a video of that floating around?
That was amazing how Harry did that so subtly and the band picked it on it so quickly.
Playing to a click isn't that hard to learn. It's the part of doing it live where you don't have the luxury of great sound mixing or any at all where it's hard to hear the other band members and your click also. So it's "do you stay on the click or listen to the band"? Both are possible but one will win in the end. The click or the band bc the rest of the band doesn't have the click in their ear like the drummer.
@@joetroutt7425 In a live situation unless there's some kind of automated sequencer involved, screw the click. Let the human instrument do its imperfect and beautiful thing
Marks the perfect player/instructor. Humber College is lucky to have him. Drumeo was a great platform for us non Humber guys to learn.
More like metronOWNED, holy crap :-D
So... metronome works for us and not viceversa! Good idea👌🏻
Excellent! That groove at 3:00 ... from Weckl's First CD/Book playalong! "Mud Sauce"
for the sixteenth notes when he starts swinging, doesn't that make him push the beat slightly backward because of the swing?
Nice feel Mark when you are playing with the metronome on the off beats.
So fun to listen to him playing along/around with metronome
8:26 whaaaaaa
An intelligent way to improve!
Warning: Do not watch this when stoned. It is too much. I just blazed and clicked on this. Its freaking me out. This dude's groove is amazing.
Great for practicing and playing at rehearsals but once you're at a gig and emotion is running wild things tend to speed up or slow down. I use it to keep me tempo somewhere in the ball park not dead on so I can still have a sense of freedom but yet not speed up or slow down to much.
I think the idea is to have a pulse. Like a heart beat it can raise and lower but not dramatically or you would have something wrong with your rhythm. The thing I struggle with the most is rushing rolls as I'm sure it's the case with most drummers not use to playing with a click.
If you can get to the point of maybe just being slightly ahead of the beat or slightly behind during certain parts of the song then it would sound more human once you settle in the groove being dead on the click. Think of waves in the ocean. They flow. Although the click can seem like a boat anchor you can still flow like the waves.
You need to fix your poor grammar to ".....or slow down TOO much."
I have never tried putting the click on the "Ah" of the beat before. This is an awesome idea Mark. Thanks Drumeo. That is a beautiful drum kit by the way :)
Hello. I read that drummers (when practicing) like to play so perfectly in the center of the beat that metronome click disappears (they call it buryng the click). Any thoughts about that?
It’s just a way of measuring how in time we’re playing because if u can’t hear the metronome then ur playing exactly on the beat and ur notified if u go slightly out of time if it comes back again
Nice kit. Live that color. Reminds me of Tama granstar customs lipstick red.
Yes, yes, yes!!! This is the real deal!!! I practice with the downbeat metronome every time I sit behind the drums (or pad) but when I'm in musical situation with my band (without the click) I just feel insecure and my timing is not at it's best, for sure...
So helpful yet so simple. Thanks!!
I think Benny Greb suggested something similar to this in drumeo before. Probably about the drummer who keep the first beat right and all the rest is messed up. I have to rewatch that video though :P
He is an amazing drummer. That jam was was very cool. Still have no idea how to use the metronome. Are you supposed to be hitting a drum, tom, hi-hat, symbol, etc. with every click? Such as: when the click clicks, does that correspond with a strike?
It would have been useful to hear a modulation like in in 5 and then back into 4 to hear how the metronome sounds on the 'off' 8th beats and the 'off' 16ths.
Thank you drumeo for the video
It works and actually it can work better than using the downbeat.
Theres a back of the medal here. Using metronome on the 3th or 4th sixteenth, I think it does affect your 'internal' engine. You end up kinda playing (and not playing) some accents.
Try playing a very particular rythm with these approach.... for exampl jazz latin. Or an iron-maiden galloop: it wont work.
Anybody else watch these videos and just stare at the most beautiful drum sets that are shown on this channel? I mean it’s crazy. I watch these videos for lessons but I also watch for the sheer beauty of each drum set that comes in there. Knowing I can’t afford it makes it so much worse too lol
To get in, try counting as if you were going to play in 7/8. Really helped me
how
Thought it was only me, facts dude
It works for shifting the click to the upbeats. Doesnt work to switch to the last 16th note.
always good tips!! thanks guys
Even tho I can get to play what he says it still feels like the click owns the downbeat and I'm only accenting the upbeats with kick and snare. Damn this is serious stuff
yeah its weird to un-wire that feel. Mark stop being so cocky and elaborate on it! lol.
Exactly my point. You end up playing (or not playing) some accents
Nice exercise Mark.
Very helpful!
lovin the feel here. nice indeed
mark kelso. gotta find the full video.
ok... at first i was like.... .OW BRAIN HURT... then i was like.... OOOOOooo BRAIN FEEL GOOOOOOOD....
Nice. Great exercises!
I don't have an actual kit, sadly, but I've really alway felt like I was a human metronome. I'm not sure what it is but I just feel every beat of almost every song. Even the non-existent fast and slow beats of the original beat. I usually end up tapping to beats that aren't there in the song.
get some drums!
@@wilydingus You're five years too late, drumming was never my calling, as much as I liked it 😅
That's how I go at it ...nice job
mark kelso, the man!
That's sick!
He took off with that metronome!
Any recommendations on a good metronome product for practice and to count me in for gigs? Is there something that also has different sound triggers?
Wow!! Amazing!
Wow that was super dope!
Well, as I understand watching this, you just have to make your metronome your backing track right?
Its look like you make your metronome as percussion?
Amazing!
More mark kelso!
Man this lesson is dope
incrediblee big Mark
Killer excercise but I am lost, so you put the click on the A's but come in on the downbeat?
That guy was awesome.
like the shoes. want !
He is good!
I think if he played a simple groove for a beginner to follow, would have been more helpful. With this awesome groove he’s playing it’s really very hard to really hear the off beat playing, let alone the 16th.
In any case, I’ll try to incorporate this to my practice if I have understood the concept well.
this video is 9:11
Triggered!
this is hard as hell...
alvarop menezes It gets either with time. Put a click on 4/4 and switch off by starting on downbeats and moving to playing on up's
It is! If you can get it really well your time will be absolutely great.
Ride cymbal sounds great! What is it?
this was mostly a drum click solo. The only tip i received was to start on the AND instead of the top. so im pretty much saying meh.
Why is Dylan Elise never on videos like these, that dude is a interesting drummer, only dude I’ve ever seen do Thomas Lang’s double stroke modulation roll with his feet and hands speeding up and slowing down oppositely but equally, and that was a video at the age of 16...get him on here
GOOD FEEL BRO
BEAST
Why does he adjust his high-hat when switching to the ride symbol?
This guy is good,,, with my help he could be the best
That drum shell color is so nice, what model is that?
Colour*
Whqt metronome is he using?
My approach is to find the melody in the metonome beat . Than it becomes so easy to play......am I cheating?
Get Jared dines and Marco minnemann
Do you have the sheet music, to made more easy?
That would just complicate things...just turn your metronome on, and jump in on any subdivision of a quarter note.
The part you’re looking for 5:28
is this a ighlight from the previous full lesson? if so I'll check that lesson out
Yep! www.drumeo.com/blog/metronome-fun/
This guy is insane
Great sounding drums. Almost makes me want to spend $3K+ for a set.
The further into the video the more violently his head shook....
You guys should get Chad Sexton to do a lesson!
I can’t process this in my brain.. I keep playing WITH the metronome lol
practice !!! Do you think it came naturally with Kelso? OF COURSE NOT !
@@raylombardo4186well you have to UNDERSTAND it before you can practice it.
What the hell shoes are those ?? I gotta get some
yeah same for me !
is anyone stressed out at the thought of trying it on that last 16th
im like damn my timing would improve
but ill throw my sticks maybe 5 times out of anger
👍🏽🔥🔥👍🏽
TOKOSSS= sweets
...i didnt get it .. :))))
What dwarfish creature is the guardian the underground subway?
A metrognome.
(I got more drum-related jokes x'D)
I spend 3 hours for just trying to get into it! Not talking about playing it!!
How a human being can do that!?
really strange style
This to me is nonesense. I can play either way but both ways you are still playing to the click so no difference in the end.
You'll get it some day.
Try it and then come back and post your thoughts.
I bet you haven't tried it
Gordon Kerr jerk
When people voice disagreement it doesn't mean they have it in for you.
Zenével foglalkoztok, mégis nagyon rossz a hangminőség. Körülvesz a saját mikrofonodon kívül még legalább 5-6, pontosan nem tudom és eszébe sem jutott, hogy ha csak az ütöket üti egymáshoz, akkor borzalmas lesz a hang a videóban. Akad olyan rész is, ahol egyszerüen nem hallom, hogy miről beszél az illető... Egyszóval, magyarul: ciki. :/
Sorry, I did not get the point. You should go in between the clicks? That is the point?
Yupp! I was thinking through this too, and realized it helps you have more fun in controlling the pace while working the parameters of that downbeat.
it wouldn't be so hard if he just took off the accent.
is this a man or a machine?