should've had 100T vs MIBR as a nomination for best match. Actual game was pretty fire, with cryo going crazy, but then it had the craziest conclusion that changed valorant in 2023
I really want to see the Americas league split into 2 regions with North and South American. Brazil specifically, and Latin America generally are too good to be handicapped into having worse t2 domestic scrimmages, and forcing all none NA players into living in a foreign country a continent away from their families. I can understand why riot went with this idea initially, not really knowing how popular LATAM val was going to be, and making it so that each league has a large talent pool for teams to pull from (each region represents a billion or more people). But at this point I think it’s clear that having such a large region is only hurting the players that come from the extremities most of whom are going to be from LATAM
do you think LATAM has enough t1 talent to offer 11 teams? (no offense in the slightest, an actual genuine question since you said t1 tiers are forced to have lower tier scrimmages against t2)
Bren, pls listen to the EG comms from Masters/Champs Ethan is an extremely positive voice, him and Boostio together are usually the ones keeping everyone's heads up in that run and keeping them focused. Demon1 is also a great teammate, clearly thinks about the game on a deeper level than people give him credit for and really trusts his teammates. Which is why he plays the Astra and Brim as well as the duelists. I think it basically comes down to Victor and whether he can pop off as hard as Jawgemo in the matches where they need it - Crashies and Marved are also usually focused, team orientated players and I can't see them mental booming.
I wish for "Worse PR moment of the year", EG getting sued by their DotA 2 player SumaiL would have been included. Because not only is it not related to Valorant, it's not even related to RIOT, and DIDN'T ACTUALLY EVEN HAPPEN LAST YEAR (the court hearing was last year, not the actual lawsuit)
Yeah, EG had a great development story and won the big tournament at the end, but anyone who doesn’t think Fnatic were the best team of the year (and all time) are clearly suffering from huge regional biases.
before i say anything else, Demon1 def deserves the nomination of "rookie of the year" and is easily a top 5 player this year, outstanding performance and fragging. however based on sheer performances & results alone, he's not deserving of it. Probably should go to Leo or Alfajer, or even players like Jinggg/Less/Aspas/Something (although probably not due to getting second, and not first, when it really mattered.) NA voters + recency bias probably gave Demon1 half of his vote share, which happens i guess though.
whats more baffling is mimi's justification as to how demon1 deserved it. it shows pure bias and how dumb her argument was. the points she was saying for demon1 made no sense at all. when balla argued , she just laughed and the pod went on.
It honestly made 0 sense to me when they announced the VCT leagues that NA would have to merge with LATAM and BR. It just didnt make sense for any of the three regions. It kills t1 talent production in LATAM and BR by making them unable to scrim against t1 talent for the majority of the year, and limited NA in the sense that it had the talent to have 10 salaried teams by itself. There's so much t2 talent rotting away or being used as imports for other regions because there isnt enough slots in t1 currently.
Not predicting that NRG will explode or anything but we gotta admit that Mr Hook has a point. NRG was always the "serious team" who play with a bit of a cocky attitude and Demon1 and Ethan fall in this category as well. They dont have a lighthearted/funny/chill guy on the team (like a Boaster or Jamppi) who can pick them up mid-game when things go badly and cheer them up. Again, this doesnt mean that they wont be successful it just means that they could be more susceptible to tilting
@@taodon74 it'd make sense yeah, but hard to know. He could be different in actual tournaments for instance, or when the overall atmosphere in the team is down.
One thing you're not considering Josh is that NA players will become so lazy that everyone will end up falling behind the LATAM players. Never doubt NA's ability to become terrible at esports.
I thought ppl would end up voting for EG coz they won champs and ognore 3/4 pf season. Fnatic were clearly the best team of the year. LOUD vs Fnatic rivalry very good.
'Ignore 3/4 of the season' is a very biased statement to make because VCT Americas playoffs,Masters Tokyo and Champions aren't just 1/4 of the season lmao It's more like they were bad for 1/4 of the season
@@king_thanos_2116If you’re looking at team of the year you need to look at the entire year and not just hide behind the “champs is the best tournament” argument. Fnatic were elite and incredibly consistent all year whereas EG were getting 13-0’d at one point. Sure the EG development story is wonderful, but fundamentally speaking you’re comparing EG who went 9th-16th, 2nd, 1st….to Fnatic who went 1st, 1st, 4th. There’s just no comparison here I’m afraid.
@@Lucio20 I never said EG was the best team of the year,you're just making up stuff All I said was it's factually incorrect to say EG was bad for 3/4th of the year which is completely false,they were bad at Lock In and regular season of vct Americas,that's it They were insane at playoffs,Tokyo and Champions,that's more than half of the year
@@king_thanos_2116 That’s fair 3/4 of the year obviously isn’t correct from the previous poster - what I just mean is that here we’re comparing a team who was elite literally all year, to a team who was terrible for quite a decent portion and then eventually became elite. EG deserve praise but Fnatic take this one and it’s not close.
It’s a US-based show with mainly NA fans, not to mention Demon1’s peak was pretty recent so sticks in the memory more. Leo or Alfajer were without doubt the top 2 this year, but I’m not surprised at the result.
As brilliant as Demon1 was, there’s no chance he had a better year than either Alfajer or Leo. I appreciate Balla for being the one with the most unbiased takes, but he’s usually just shouting into the void while Mimi repeats “NA>EU” over and over.
thank you balla for calling bs out 😂 you can't be player of the year and not play the entire year like ?? and at this point we're making leo look massively underrated. he hasn't been in talks for player of the year while he's been a consistent, impactful player for fnatic and best initiator itw.
and not even among the few tournaments he did play was he ever the best player. was very average at tokyo, good at americas league but nowhere near the "player of the year" level. that award's winner is purely based of off the audience's bias
Honestly for worst take of the year. Im pretty sure i picked the go on a run but thinking about it the 100t beating fnatic should be worse. Because how can anyone see an 0-9 team going on a run. If you predicted that you have to be kru's #1 fan
whats baffling is mimi's justification as to how demon1 deserved the player of the year. it shows pure bias and just how dumb her argument was. the points she was saying for demon1 made no sense at all. when balla argued , she just laughed and the pod went on. a constant way of conversation whenever she is on platchat
she had already said what she thought, what does she have to argue about? People can just have different opinions they don't need to discuss and argue it until one changes their mind.
@@kyteillingworth nothing she argued for justified why demon1 deserved it over Alfa or Leo. When someone, probably balla said that just coz he is rookie and exceeded expectations in 1 singular event doesn't mean he deserves player of the "year" award. And again answer my question, when she can't argue she just starts waffling
mwzera about platchat: "listening to what they say makes me laugh, when you listen to their analysis you know that none of them have any notion of the game, everything they say is confusing, they just talk for the sake of talking, they don't understand anything about the game" And i totally agree with him, this program is a joke, the casters are immortal2 at best and they want to do analyzes about pros, it's ridiculous, the only people who take these guys seriously are children and silvers
Brens take on NRG’s roster and saying they will fail because they’re an emotional team is literally the worst take I’ve heard about this team. This was a Stephen A devils advocate random take.
His reasoning might be wrong. But the take itself is not far from reality. Like they have players with huge egos on that team coz they thrive on that want to be the best. If some1 can't control that it's gonna implode. When u don't have a player like Boaster or FNS or even Ange1 then u look to coach. But Chet is not known for his man management skills.
I say this because you can just tell he just said that to say something then he later goes on and says "im just a hater" lmaooo. 3 players were on a championship caliber team and 2 players won champs. They know what it takes to win and won't like "attitudes imploding" be the reason they wont win.@@nikhileshwar9673
I say this because you can just tell he just said that to say something then he later goes on and says "im just a hater" lmaooo. 3 players were on a championship caliber team and 2 players won champs. They know what it takes to win and won't like "attitudes imploding" be the reason they wont win.@@huqqleberry2
Another person already commented this but PLEASE try and get FNS as a guest for a future episode
Plat Chat Demonetizing Moment of the Stream Timer (Episode 160):
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*FAILURE*
Record for 2024: 0-1 (.000)
Culprit - Bren (1)
Hell yeah
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Please continue doing this lmaoooo
fantastic
please be that guy
Petition to get fns on the show for one of the upcoming episodes. He said he’d be down if any of you asked him 🥹
yes.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
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BRING BACK BACKCHAT
Yes please
The icebox section was very good as a audio listener, excellent visualization practice
Kurt replacing Mimi had to be the funniest moment in 2023
As soon as I saw the "Funniest moment of the year" award, that was instantly what I was expecting to win it.
Bren immediately swearing and his reaction is too good lmao
KURT YOU DIDNT PLAY OUT THE REST OF THE CLIP WHERE SIDESHOW STARTED TALKING ABOUT HIS... TEMPTING ACTIVITIES IN BALDURS GATE 😭😭😂😂
Surprised by the awards show being on a Tuesday but it is my birthday so I thank you guys for giving me a good starter for my birthday day!
happy birthday!
Happy birthday :)
its a bit late, but happy birthday!
So Bren smashed the NRG prediction and they all look very silly in hindsight for flaming his take xD
should've had 100T vs MIBR as a nomination for best match. Actual game was pretty fire, with cryo going crazy, but then it had the craziest conclusion that changed valorant in 2023
I really want to see the Americas league split into 2 regions with North and South American. Brazil specifically, and Latin America generally are too good to be handicapped into having worse t2 domestic scrimmages, and forcing all none NA players into living in a foreign country a continent away from their families. I can understand why riot went with this idea initially, not really knowing how popular LATAM val was going to be, and making it so that each league has a large talent pool for teams to pull from (each region represents a billion or more people). But at this point I think it’s clear that having such a large region is only hurting the players that come from the extremities most of whom are going to be from LATAM
do you think LATAM has enough t1 talent to offer 11 teams? (no offense in the slightest, an actual genuine question since you said t1 tiers are forced to have lower tier scrimmages against t2)
I WAS ONE OF THE TWO PEOPLE THAT WROTE IN PLAT CHAT PREMIERE HELL YEAH LFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bookmark this episode for when NRG get obliterated by some random APAC team at 2024 Champions
AGED LIKE FINE WINE LMAO
I like how 2 of the funniest moments are from 2 of the like 4 episodes Avast was on this year LMAO.
Bren, pls listen to the EG comms from Masters/Champs
Ethan is an extremely positive voice, him and Boostio together are usually the ones keeping everyone's heads up in that run and keeping them focused.
Demon1 is also a great teammate, clearly thinks about the game on a deeper level than people give him credit for and really trusts his teammates. Which is why he plays the Astra and Brim as well as the duelists.
I think it basically comes down to Victor and whether he can pop off as hard as Jawgemo in the matches where they need it - Crashies and Marved are also usually focused, team orientated players and I can't see them mental booming.
Just to pick up on the discussion of last time, but I dont see how you could not consider NRG a superteam. They literally have an all-champions roster
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My favorite line up of cast hands down.
I wish for "Worse PR moment of the year", EG getting sued by their DotA 2 player SumaiL would have been included.
Because not only is it not related to Valorant, it's not even related to RIOT, and DIDN'T ACTUALLY EVEN HAPPEN LAST YEAR (the court hearing was last year, not the actual lawsuit)
The part that they drop out was so perfectly times with what Bren was saying
Bren's idea is so funny because I was thinking of something like Tuscan in csgo and how riot could literally do exactly that
God this was an incredible year for valorant looking back on it
At this point Leo is underrated
Bren nailed the NRG analysis about their over confidence hurting them sometimes imo
Fnatic wasnt just the team of the year they were the best team in valorant history
Yeah, EG had a great development story and won the big tournament at the end, but anyone who doesn’t think Fnatic were the best team of the year (and all time) are clearly suffering from huge regional biases.
Bro where were loud’s clutches?? So many iconic plays
Them doing icebox changes sounded like 12 year old me making maps in halo reach 😂😂
Great way to start off the new year! Thanks for all the laughs and insightful commentary, Plat Chat crew! 💗
before i say anything else, Demon1 def deserves the nomination of "rookie of the year" and is easily a top 5 player this year, outstanding performance and fragging. however based on sheer performances & results alone, he's not deserving of it. Probably should go to Leo or Alfajer, or even players like Jinggg/Less/Aspas/Something (although probably not due to getting second, and not first, when it really mattered.) NA voters + recency bias probably gave Demon1 half of his vote share, which happens i guess though.
whats more baffling is mimi's justification as to how demon1 deserved it. it shows pure bias and how dumb her argument was. the points she was saying for demon1 made no sense at all. when balla argued , she just laughed and the pod went on.
38:14 good one Kurt
"wish i could get some superdome" -Wyatt 2023
happy new year platchat! heres to an exciting 2023 and hoping for an even better 2024 :D
It honestly made 0 sense to me when they announced the VCT leagues that NA would have to merge with LATAM and BR. It just didnt make sense for any of the three regions. It kills t1 talent production in LATAM and BR by making them unable to scrim against t1 talent for the majority of the year, and limited NA in the sense that it had the talent to have 10 salaried teams by itself. There's so much t2 talent rotting away or being used as imports for other regions because there isnt enough slots in t1 currently.
Mimi: “yea the white section, make it Black”-2024
I’d love to see an episode full of how to fix “map x.” that was hilarious. Or just have Bren make a map from scratch 😂
Demon1 Player of the Year over Alfajer? noway
God the theory crafting on icebox was awesome and hilarious plz do more
Having drama before the season and resolving it > having drama before and during the season.
i can’t believe sliggy talon 3 duelists didn’t make it
Mel was robbed for guest of the year best episode ever
Not predicting that NRG will explode or anything but we gotta admit that Mr Hook has a point.
NRG was always the "serious team" who play with a bit of a cocky attitude and Demon1 and Ethan fall in this category as well.
They dont have a lighthearted/funny/chill guy on the team (like a Boaster or Jamppi) who can pick them up mid-game when things go badly and cheer them up.
Again, this doesnt mean that they wont be successful it just means that they could be more susceptible to tilting
see: last year
@@McChickenJOI I thought s0m was the light heartened person on the team to bring them back whenever they were tilted.
@@taodon74 it'd make sense yeah, but hard to know. He could be different in actual tournaments for instance, or when the overall atmosphere in the team is down.
The Guard got snubbed of worst PR move of the year
"we'll discuss the votes in the end" that never happened. :(
i surprised cgrs vs s0m is not in the best clutch awards
2:00:18 Sideshow making the exact same face
lmao well spotted
No saadhak clutch ace during the league? Seriously?
Yeah instead they simply put com knifing. Wtf
One thing you're not considering Josh is that NA players will become so lazy that everyone will end up falling behind the LATAM players. Never doubt NA's ability to become terrible at esports.
2:12:15 what's all this white powder on mimi's desk? 🧐🧐
I thought ppl would end up voting for EG coz they won champs and ognore 3/4 pf season.
Fnatic were clearly the best team of the year. LOUD vs Fnatic rivalry very good.
'Ignore 3/4 of the season' is a very biased statement to make because VCT Americas playoffs,Masters Tokyo and Champions aren't just 1/4 of the season lmao
It's more like they were bad for 1/4 of the season
@@king_thanos_2116If you’re looking at team of the year you need to look at the entire year and not just hide behind the “champs is the best tournament” argument. Fnatic were elite and incredibly consistent all year whereas EG were getting 13-0’d at one point.
Sure the EG development story is wonderful, but fundamentally speaking you’re comparing EG who went 9th-16th, 2nd, 1st….to Fnatic who went 1st, 1st, 4th. There’s just no comparison here I’m afraid.
@@Lucio20 I never said EG was the best team of the year,you're just making up stuff
All I said was it's factually incorrect to say EG was bad for 3/4th of the year which is completely false,they were bad at Lock In and regular season of vct Americas,that's it
They were insane at playoffs,Tokyo and Champions,that's more than half of the year
@@king_thanos_2116 That’s fair 3/4 of the year obviously isn’t correct from the previous poster - what I just mean is that here we’re comparing a team who was elite literally all year, to a team who was terrible for quite a decent portion and then eventually became elite. EG deserve praise but Fnatic take this one and it’s not close.
lol i am so indifferent to haven as a map
I hate that I always miss this on live...
the northeast is colder than the UK because of the gulf stream too
Leo and Alfa just keep getting robbed in broad daylight naaahhh
It’s a US-based show with mainly NA fans, not to mention Demon1’s peak was pretty recent so sticks in the memory more.
Leo or Alfajer were without doubt the top 2 this year, but I’m not surprised at the result.
Sideshow lookin FRESH 🔥🔥🔥
Leo robbed. He is the best player of the year for sure.
As brilliant as Demon1 was, there’s no chance he had a better year than either Alfajer or Leo.
I appreciate Balla for being the one with the most unbiased takes, but he’s usually just shouting into the void while Mimi repeats “NA>EU” over and over.
can't believe that balla got mad at demon1 cause of alfajer and not leo
Kurt is genuinely not paid enough
no cgrs clutch in ot against nrg?
Player of the year = Leo
best clutch of 2024 SURELY goes to S1mon's 1v2 lockdown against heretics no?
They could honestly even put boom vs spg map 5
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thank you balla for calling bs out 😂 you can't be player of the year and not play the entire year like ?? and at this point we're making leo look massively underrated. he hasn't been in talks for player of the year while he's been a consistent, impactful player for fnatic and best initiator itw.
and not even among the few tournaments he did play was he ever the best player. was very average at tokyo, good at americas league but nowhere near the "player of the year" level. that award's winner is purely based of off the audience's bias
Can anyone explain the wyatt's wish joke i dont get it
Dome can also be another word for your head. Head is slang for oral sex. Super dome -> really good bj
Honestly for worst take of the year. Im pretty sure i picked the go on a run but thinking about it the 100t beating fnatic should be worse. Because how can anyone see an 0-9 team going on a run. If you predicted that you have to be kru's #1 fan
Missed funniest moments of the year is balla offering to train someone
na fans commiting war crimes by voting demon0 for the best player
Leo was the best this year but it's always fun seeing EMEA seethe that Demon1 was Champions MVP,the most important tournament
we never got to see what people voted in the other sections ;(
TMV slander is crazy
How the fuck sadhaak vs nrg ACE clutch wasn't a best clutch nominee
Balla's masterbaiting* clip should've won
Bren stole iso from mordecaiser lol
why does bren look so hot in his fps rant?
GET FNS GET FNS GET FNS
whats baffling is mimi's justification as to how demon1 deserved the player of the year. it shows pure bias and just how dumb her argument was. the points she was saying for demon1 made no sense at all. when balla argued , she just laughed and the pod went on. a constant way of conversation whenever she is on platchat
she had already said what she thought, what does she have to argue about? People can just have different opinions they don't need to discuss and argue it until one changes their mind.
@@kyteillingworth nothing she argued for justified why demon1 deserved it over Alfa or Leo. When someone, probably balla said that just coz he is rookie and exceeded expectations in 1 singular event doesn't mean he deserves player of the "year" award. And again answer my question, when she can't argue she just starts waffling
Mimi: Fnatic the first time to go back to back, finalist at champions what a great year
…? 😅 did she watch champions
did u watch the whole video?
@@murkybu don’t mind me I just post comments like these whenever mimi and balla have braindead moments
@@dipn6243 (that’s like half the show) ye she did correct herself in the end this time tho
@@murkybu erm well not exactly but i suppose
Get fns on please
ENBY FIBESSE
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mwzera about platchat: "listening to what they say makes me laugh, when you listen to their analysis you know that none of them have any notion of the game, everything they say is confusing, they just talk for the sake of talking, they don't understand anything about the game"
And i totally agree with him, this program is a joke, the casters are immortal2 at best and they want to do analyzes about pros, it's ridiculous, the only people who take these guys seriously are children and silvers
Brens take on NRG’s roster and saying they will fail because they’re an emotional team is literally the worst take I’ve heard about this team. This was a Stephen A devils advocate random take.
id love ex eg to succeed outside of the org but 100t and nrg feel so hard to predict. if com goes leviatan they definitely have hope to make a run
His reasoning might be wrong. But the take itself is not far from reality. Like they have players with huge egos on that team coz they thrive on that want to be the best.
If some1 can't control that it's gonna implode. When u don't have a player like Boaster or FNS or even Ange1 then u look to coach. But Chet is not known for his man management skills.
I say this because you can just tell he just said that to say something then he later goes on and says "im just a hater" lmaooo. 3 players were on a championship caliber team and 2 players won champs. They know what it takes to win and won't like "attitudes imploding" be the reason they wont win.@@nikhileshwar9673
I say this because you can just tell he just said that to say something then he later goes on and says "im just a hater" lmaooo. 3 players were on a championship caliber team and 2 players won champs. They know what it takes to win and won't like "attitudes imploding" be the reason they wont win.@@huqqleberry2
Do people actually give a fuck if the team or the players are from where they are from???