Good to see a RUclipsr penning a bike for a long time and actually taking care of it rather than just bolting new sponsored bits on it. Well done you! I’d personally either dunk the centre stand in Coca Cola overnight before starting the work with autosol and a big red scotch brite or more probably just get the Hammerite out. Either way I’d love more of this sort of thing, more people should work on their bikes.
With things like centre stands Andy and crash bars, I would use your local powder coater and get them to shotblast , zinc phospated and black satin powder coat the stand and crash bars .. they will stand up to the weather conditions alot better than standard paint and you'll be surprised it dosn't cost the earth ... but you have done a good job using a rattle can...
@@carlbenstead5165 that might only trap moisture next to the metal though? kurust + primer+ paint works well in my experience, powder coating is not that expensive though, just never bothered with it.
Just an observation here from an outsider looking in TMF but always wear safety glasses when messing with something with stored energy like circlips and springs. Great video.
I love the way you show your home maintenance efforts 'warts and all'. Most of us are like this (I'm sure) and end up in a world of hurt from time to time. Hats off to you for showing it!
It's just meant to be entertainment, can't believe how worked up some get about it - I'm sure there are loads of garage tinkerers out there just like me......
Can’t imagine SW Moto crash bars are cheap. Why didn’t you remove the bars and have them blasted and re-powder coated? All in the spirit of sustainability?
I hate reinstalling springs on stands. Another trick that may be handy in the future. Instead of putting the spring on last, connect it first and then use the stand as your leverage. Sometimes you can even hyperextend the stand itself to make it easier, but those small loops and fittings can be especially troublesome just having the larger piece to pull on can make the task go faster. Things can still go ping, so be mindful.
Had a new stand fitted To my in k 1600 gt few years ago before bmw replaced it under warranty. I got it powder coated on top of the bmw paint finish for a tenner well worth it
When it comes to workshop calamities, you name it and I've done it. One particularly cold and damp winter I decided to do a little respraying in the warmth of the kitchen. It was on "Over-spray Catastrophe" 🤣 So if you have a little difficulty, remember somebody somewhere will have turned it into a disaster 🤣👍
It’s not PC to just have a bit of tolerance and respect for people. It was a joke, but there are real people out there who suffer daily from people with attitudes like yours. Guess what, they ride motorcycles too. You talk about dignity…really?
@@iamjames8200 Of course they are. However, I do not condone the use of profanity. It does however reveal the incredibly low intellect of those who use it.
Dealing with sidestand/centerstand springs is definitely a “kettle of pain!” I think you may have coined a new phrase 😆😆 Thanks for the video, I look forward to part two 😎
It’s wonderful to see bikes receiving such attention. I’m constantly tinkering with mine. Considering the immense joy they bring us, it’s the least they deserve. As always, your content is top-notch. Yours sincerely, a completely unoffended subscriber
Learned a new word: “Titivation”… excellently applied here. Exactly what you are doing! I love these kinds of videos because these are the little niggles that annoy us “regular guys” doing these supposedly “simple” projects. Thanks for showing the struggle!!!
I would have had the crash bars & centre stand re- powdercoated, much cheaper & a factory finish. Youve really taken good care of all your bikes, but our weather is horrible, & & its always a battle to maintain them, all the best 👍
Claiming to be offended is the new pseudo intellectual fad. Makes dull people seem slightly interesting. In other news, I enjoyed the centrestand refurb🥰
Some things are simple but some smaller ones can take up to hours or in your matter a few days. However, the satisfaction that follows outweighs the difficulty or even paying a small labour charge and getting it done. This satisfaction is priceless.
When I fitted an aftermarket main stand to my TDM850, I used the same ratchet strap method but in reverse. I mounted the springs both ends, then placed the strap through the rear wheel and main stand cross brace and pulled it back until it lined up with the pivot holes. Glad you got it done ok though.
For getting old paint and rust off a wire brush on an electric drill works well and is faster than sandpaper or a Dremel. I'd personally take the rusty bits and get them sand blasted down to white metal and then get them re-powder coated or plastic-dipped - the only reason is the coating is harder wearing and tends to remain intact much longer for items that are subject to impact from road crud. Usually a good idea to put a bit of grease on the centre stand pivot points.
I really enjoyed this vid Andy. It is just very real life and having a 9 year old GS myself it’s refreshing to see what most bikers need to do and hold on to your bike! It’s still an excellent machine and yours will look good for a few years to come now.
Picked up a used 2017 GS Adventure with 7k miles on it a couple month ago, fantastic machine. I can imagine the new bikes have their own charm but I dont see what else is needed with the bike itself. Mine has the analogue clocks like yours too, which I actually find a bonus these days:) Thanks for the video, ride safe!
Excellent work! I would highly recommend finding a local bead blaster - they can strip off all the rust and paint off anything you give them. Gives you a nice clean surface to work with.
You did well. Rattle can is pretty good stuff these days. I use it often. Keep the can moving about a foot away and not too much at once, 3 or 4 coats is right. Can't do without a center stand. Have them on most all my bikes. BMW's you can spin them around one direction or another for most models. You have a flat they are hard to beat. Good vid. Always work safe. That was a workout cleaning the stand. You did well. A small sandblaster with glass beads would have done well too. Those look good considering the time and conditions you ride in. I got my BMW K1200RS off the centerstand yesterday and then couldn't get the side stand down. With a dodgy knee replacement I thought I was really in a mess but I got it back on the centerstand. Those springs, that's a good technique as long as you don't run out of stretch. Beats pulling by hand. Sometimes vice grips or a C-clamp helps. I have a SW Motech stand for my new R1200 nine T UGS. I hate crawling around right now. Those lights lok good for the money. Anything is better than nothing as long as it works dependably. Chapter two awaits. Next time
Still have a scar in the middle of my forehead from about 1984 in a failed attempt at pulling a drum brake spring on with a pair of pliers. Live and learn.
Everything is dead simple, just a couple of bolts and a spring, until you get into it. I too have spent many hours on simple, 5 minute jobs like this but that’s how we learn. In 2034 when you refurbish that centre stand again you’ll have it back on in half the time 😊
Thanks for posting. Great video, as always. On another bike, as I was riding at night, my bike picked up a piece of debris, kicked it up and as luck would have it, the debris hit the spring for the center stand and broke it. Suddenly I had sparks flying off the back of my bike. My wife, who was on her own bike behind me, said it was very illuminating and fun to watch from a distance.
Hi Andy, my bikes are females. Always have, always will be. As they are mine then if someone takes offence then that’s their business. Regarding the rust, an old simple, cheap yet very effective removal way is to soak the item(s) in white vinegar for about 48 hours as it just makes the overall process better. Keep up the great work mate!
She's looking great. You did a great job on her. She'll give you many more years of faithful service. She really is a credit to you and the channel. PS, Mrs Flyer also calls her bike She, so all is equal in the world.
Have the same age and Model GS …. Have experienced most of the same rust problems as yourself. … Unfortunately couldn’t get the crash bars off so I had to treat them in situ… hope you have better luck! …. Kind of worked as also had some disappointing rust on the main frame which you don’t seem to have had… mind you I don’t clean my bike as well and as often as yours!.. And also missed my ACF 50 application last year!…duh! Love the naturalness of your channel…can’t please everyone all of the time!…look forward to part two..
I enjoyed that video. I thought you were being restrained as no swearing but had to smile when you said "come on you bugger". Very clean bike for 10 years old, partly BMW build quality but a testament to regular thorough cleaning.
Andy, I have to say, I for 1 am very pleased to see you giving it a go ( at some bike DIY). It is some thing many riders enjoy and love to watch others giving it a go. Well done with the stand, it certainly did improve the looks. ( I think I would have given it 3 coats of paint, and even a clear coat as well.) 😍
Just done exactly the same on my gs 700 , I was a bit disappointed that a 2017 bike that is always garaged, cleaned and never intentionally ridden in the rain, had deteriorated so much. I wonder if the cheaper end BMW’s are not the same quality as the larger ones,however I’m really pleased with my results .
I think you are a very brave man to video the reattachment of your center stand springs! I personally like the "...insert many washers in the springs..." method. No matter how you accomplish it it's a bear to do. Very innovative using the ratchet strap!! Well done.
The poor old GS centre stand always gets the most punishment,I wrapped mine in duct tape 3 yrs ago.God knows what it looks like underneath now,daren't take the stuff off tbh😂
Nice work TMF. I used the GLW's black nail varnish to spot up my crash bars done ok for a year so far😃 . Couldn't believe how inexpensive the tank pads are, Thanks for the heads up on them. Always a pleasure being invited into the Bike grotto cheers.
Hi Andy, the she or they debate makes me smile.. I am a 66 year old brummie, and always said she.. It applies to anything from ships to cars and bikes. I don't say it with any disrespect to anyone, and Im a bit long in the tooth to change now.. But I have no problem in what other people call them.. I had my crash bars refurbished for the same reasons.. But I had them re powder coated.. Saves buying new again. Well done on the centre stand, look easier to do than in practice, I know from experience.. Look forward to seeing the next episode..
Well Andy that bike is 10 years old She is in very good condition and what you is doing to improve her well done she will last another 10 years so take care of her
I thoroughly enjoyed watching this. Not entirely sure if that was because I’ve experienced similar frustrations or for some other reason, but I appreciate you showing us the less glamorous side of TMF.
My Honda is from 2012 so it’s 12 yo. Great bike. It can easily do another 12 years. Some rust on the radiator and the center and side stands. Nothing to worry about yet. What you’re doing under the bike with those springs…well, my shoulders won’t let me do that and if I would do it anyway, I will regret it dearly. I hope you won’t.
Andy - “A” for Effort. “A” for skill with a rattle can. “A” for ingenuity with the ratchet strap - impressive, especially with the acknowledgement of the whole thing going “ping!” and removing an extremity. However, the categories of Time saving and Longevity of Work will not have such excellent scores. A rotary wire brush in power tool (assuming you don’t have a sand blasting cabinet in your shed) would have made preparing things easier. I’m also dubious if “rattle can” black will last for two reasons. Firstly, no anti-rust treatment was made and secondly this sort of paint is very soft. I think you’ll find that you will be revisiting this part again. As usual though, a very entertaining video. Thanks. And she’s a she. ps. As others have said, a powder coated finish would have been the way to go and just think, you would not have had to purchase new crash bars and you could have had any colour you wanted.
A few assumptions in there Trev, but thanks for the advice and I'm glad you found it entertaining (which was my aim!). Appreciate the constructive comments as ever....
Well you made me smile as my overalls are also covered in paint. Every time I go into the corner shop the owner used to shout ‘ the paint goes on the door’! My main bike has always been’ the Beast’ whatever that bike is ( currently 850 norton ) but as I currently have 2 , the Rt1200 is the Panzer. No doubt upsetting someone. My wife refers to her vintage 7 as he, Cedric. They all seem to have names ….
My center stand started to become sand blasted then rusty after a few months of ownership from new in 2017. So I removed it cleaned it up and then used Hammerite paint. In addition I rapped it with a "seal skin" used by cyclists. Obtained this from Halfords. It is tube formed and held in place by velcro. The seal skin protects well.
Well done , great to see you getting stuck in , please put your old crash bars and lights on a suitable sales site , as not everyone, me included , buys new crash bars ,and it’s good for the environment, I hope you enjoyed doing your tasks , I get lots of pleasure from fettling my motorcycles , and are very proud of the finished results , fantastic.
Good that your C stand lasted that long. Mine needed doing after less than 6k and 2 years. Dealer repainted it and ive greased it and put hose around it but in the year since the bit thats not covered by the hose is going again. BMW wont cover corrosion on it as its "influenced by the user". Ive always cleaning the bike and dont use it in winter... Powder coating it next.
Really enjoyed watching this video. It's amazing how much better it looks after doing these few jobs. Love how you feel about this motorbike It took you a long way ,and I always associate it with your channel when I started watching it from the early days . Long may it last 😁👍
TMF. I so enjoyed watching this video. I’m not being nasty when I say I was sharing your pain every step of the way because that is usually me it happens to. Difference is your demeanour is peeved but calm. I would have turned the air blue with frustration and rage.😅
@@TheMissendenFlyer Loved the video of Carol getting her new 650 Kawasaki. Have the pair of you done anymore regarding her foray into the bike World …..or you have and I’ve missed it.
Call the bike what you like, with the centre stand springs, I have found the easiest way is to put the spring on first, then the dowel on the spring side , then use the centre stand as a lever put in the other side. Still a bit of a pain ,a lot easier than trying to attach the springs afterwards
they do treatments for rust inhibiting, when i did that to mine I also took it down to metal in places, but I coated mine in the rust inhibiter which made it go black, then sprayed it in primer, followed by heat proof black paint, sanded down with 160 then coated again in gloss heat proof, it came out looking factory, and so far have had Zero issues, but i warn you do the process in a well ventilated area and allow at least 5 hours for the first 4 steps , the gloss final 30 mins between coats,
Has to be said Andy that although you’ve been looking after it to be fair, the GS has held up amazing well. A lot of critique of BMW out there but the build quality/longevity is still there overall…..thanks, great video!
Agree with all the comments about getting the stand properly blasted and recoated, but never with powder coat, one stone chip and the water will get in and pretty soon the coating will flake off. Get it done with twin pack black paint. As for the her him they them thing, leave that for the people who think it makes a difference, the bike is an It!
Every couple of years or so the cross bar on my GS centre stand becomes rusty,. My bodge solution is; clean, rub down with sandpaper, white spirit to wash off debris, then Hammerite smooth black paint.
Stand looking a lot better Andy, but rattle can paint tends to be soft and will chip easily, especially the horizontal section in front of the wheel. What I did was to wrap some paint protect vinyl around the horizontal section, the thick stuff used to protect in front of a rear wheel arch, and it has remained chip and rust free. 👍
Enjoyed this video Andy, Its always good to have a 'Nigel' as backup when you mess things up. I do think its good to get to know your bike by wrenching on it. Even if it doesn't always go to plan.
BMW subsequently fitted a plastic guard to the centre stand, easy to retrofit with cable ties . This will protect the centre stand from chips and rust . Probably not too expensive to buy. TTFN.
Good morning TMF, I view this channel for its great content and informative reviews. It's a shame that cancel culture is creeping into everything we do ignore the haters and carry on with what you say and do, this is why you have so many loyal subscribers Andy.
Personally Andy I would have taken parts like the crash bars and centre stand to a powder be powder coated. Cheaper than replacements and a lot more durable in the long run.
I'm here to entertain! ....though I'm not sure what you mean by the "techinical way I use a spray can"? I thought my rattle can spraying way actually alright....
I hate springs, somehow I always end up in pain. even with the right tool. After you clean as close to bare metal as you can. Use some Phosphoric Acid the active ingredient in the expensive rust eater. Changes the rust oxide. To an oxide which is hard and supposedly water resistant for next time. Which is about as good as you can do for a DIY paint job. Anyway nice to see the GS getting some TLC.
Nice work TMF I believe but could be wrong that all or most bike stands are made by one or two companies and never to a great standard, as everyone will know they rust fairly easy and seem to have just one thin coat of paint from new. I always give the stand a good clean and at least once a year a rub down and spray with Hammerite to keep the rust at bay. I never take it off the bike because I’m as handy with the tools as you maybe even worse.
50 shades of grey LOL. Hammerite or Simonez Tough paint are good options as they don't need a primer coat. I've also put helicopter tape on the cross member in the past, secured with cable ties to take the brunt of the stone impacts. At the moment I've got some of the plastic sleeving you put on 15mm copper piping to tidy the plumbing up rather than paint it I had lying around in the garage after refurbing the bathroom on my centre stand, again held in place with cable ties and that seems to be doing a good job so far. Good luck with the crash bars, I hope you've got an extra long socket to get the nut undone on the rear top mount as my normal sockets were not quite long enogh to go over the long bolt that goes through the frame and onto the nut itself. Ebay is your friend if you don't have a set 😉
While your are completing the refresh - remove the gear lever pivot and 'add blue grease' but also check the two rose joints on the gear lever movement - Very easy to reomve and refit = NO Tools required - just use your thumb nail and unclip the small clip - Looks like a C clip on a cocktail stick - the insert can be loaded with grease and any excess gets pushed out when you refit. Unclip the one nearest the front wheel first, it gets better acces to the rears one. And to quote a certain Haynes manual - refitting is the reverse - It does make a difference to gearchanges. Certainly improved my R1200RS gear selection.
As you have other bike to use while the GS is off the road, I would have taken all the rusty metalwork off the bike and have a local specialist shot blast it, then galvanize everything before black powder coating. Would probably work out cheaper than the replacement crash bars, and you could be confident that the finish would be better than original. Those fog lights look good value, may have to order a pair for my Crosstourer, unless I bite the bullet, and trade it in for a brand new CRF300. I think it was you that said it's much more fun riding a slow bike fast, than riding a fast bike slowly, and as I get older, I'm finding the Crosstourer to be getting a bit unwieldy.
Go with Simoniz tough paint. I learnt it from Delboys garage channel, really good stuff. No primer or laquer needed either. Ventilation too and ensure your bikes are covered for over spray. 🙈
Well it seems like you have joined the woke brigade with that they nonsense.I wish you well but that’s me done with your channel.
Don’t be daft it was my attempt at a joke!! I can’t believe people think I’m being serious about this!!
@@TheMissendenFlyer People are so sensitive and easily offended these days. You're better off without the cry babies like @davidclifton5386
What?? Oh ok, bye.
Imagine what it’s like riding a Transalp.
She he?
@@TheMissendenFlyer It must've been the deadpan delivery :)
Good to see a RUclipsr penning a bike for a long time and actually taking care of it rather than just bolting new sponsored bits on it. Well done you!
I’d personally either dunk the centre stand in Coca Cola overnight before starting the work with autosol and a big red scotch brite or more probably just get the Hammerite out. Either way I’d love more of this sort of thing, more people should work on their bikes.
Thanbk you - I really appreciate that comment!
Can you still pour some rum in the coke and drink it afterwards? Asking for a friend, you know.
With things like centre stands Andy and crash bars, I would use your local powder coater and get them to shotblast , zinc phospated and black satin powder coat the stand and crash bars .. they will stand up to the weather conditions alot better than standard paint and you'll be surprised it dosn't cost the earth ... but you have done a good job using a rattle can...
Yes many have suggested that - I didn’t even think of it!
Yes, I come here to suggest the same thing. And the powder coating will possibly be better than the original parts and aftermarket parts.
Thanks for the advice!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Andy, Another top tip is to cut a piece of hosepipe and cover the centre bar of the stand after painting to stop the stonechips!
@@carlbenstead5165 that might only trap moisture next to the metal though?
kurust + primer+ paint works well in my experience, powder coating is not that expensive though, just never bothered with it.
Just an observation here from an outsider looking in TMF but always wear safety glasses when messing with something with stored energy like circlips and springs.
Great video.
So glad you are looking after her so that she can be more up to date!
I love the way you show your home maintenance efforts 'warts and all'. Most of us are like this (I'm sure) and end up in a world of hurt from time to time. Hats off to you for showing it!
It's just meant to be entertainment, can't believe how worked up some get about it - I'm sure there are loads of garage tinkerers out there just like me......
Can’t imagine SW Moto crash bars are cheap. Why didn’t you remove the bars and have them blasted and re-powder coated? All in the spirit of sustainability?
I hate reinstalling springs on stands. Another trick that may be handy in the future.
Instead of putting the spring on last, connect it first and then use the stand as your leverage. Sometimes you can even hyperextend the stand itself to make it easier, but those small loops and fittings can be especially troublesome just having the larger piece to pull on can make the task go faster.
Things can still go ping, so be mindful.
Thanks for the advice!
I'm sure you could have saved cash, time and effort and got the crash bars and centre stand sand blasted and powder coated.
Yes I probably could but I decided to go this route….
Had a new stand fitted To my in k 1600 gt few years ago before bmw replaced it under warranty. I got it powder coated on top of the bmw paint finish for a tenner well worth it
When it comes to workshop calamities, you name it and I've done it. One particularly cold and damp winter I decided to do a little respraying in the warmth of the kitchen. It was on "Over-spray Catastrophe" 🤣 So if you have a little difficulty, remember somebody somewhere will have turned it into a disaster 🤣👍
It's your bike, call it what you like. Please don't bend over for the PC brigade! I'd rather lose the views and keep my dignity.
It’s not PC to just have a bit of tolerance and respect for people. It was a joke, but there are real people out there who suffer daily from people with attitudes like yours. Guess what, they ride motorcycles too. You talk about dignity…really?
@@EWAScotland no respect needed for those people, but they need psychiatric help
@@EWAScotland you are entitled to your opinion, just as I am mine.
@@RustyRecoveryand people are entitled to call you an arsehole as well.
@@iamjames8200 Of course they are. However, I do not condone the use of profanity. It does however reveal the incredibly low intellect of those who use it.
Love to watch your 'garage' videos. So good to see I'm not the only one who did these jobs on a wing and a prayer lol.
Dealing with sidestand/centerstand springs is definitely a “kettle of pain!” I think you may have coined a new phrase 😆😆 Thanks for the video, I look forward to part two 😎
Finally managed to pause your advice and warnings at the beginning. Great video!!
Awesome! Thank you!
Love the soft encouragement when tapping with the mallet 🙂
Doesn't everyone do that?
She's looking good. Amazing what a coat of paint does. The crash bars and lights will have the old girl looking like new again.
Stay tuned for part 2 in due course!
It’s wonderful to see bikes receiving such attention. I’m constantly tinkering with mine. Considering the immense joy they bring us, it’s the least they deserve. As always, your content is top-notch. Yours sincerely, a completely unoffended subscriber
Glad to hear that - thank you....
She's a beauty, she'll look brand new when she's done. You should be proud of her Andy.
I am!
Learned a new word: “Titivation”… excellently applied here. Exactly what you are doing! I love these kinds of videos because these are the little niggles that annoy us “regular guys” doing these supposedly “simple” projects. Thanks for showing the struggle!!!
My pleasure Cliff!
I would have had the crash bars & centre stand re- powdercoated, much cheaper & a factory finish. Youve really taken good care of all your bikes, but our weather is horrible, & & its always a battle to maintain them, all the best 👍
Indeed - cheers Geoff!
Claiming to be offended is the new pseudo intellectual fad. Makes dull people seem slightly interesting. In other news, I enjoyed the centrestand refurb🥰
For anyone confused, the reason why planes, ships, cars, bikes etc are often referred to as 'her' its because they carry people.
Agreed, but as a man, i have the right to carry as well, just like "Loretta" from Monty Pythons' Life of Brian 😂😂😂
@@Jsixseven good for you brother....er sister 😄
Great video. My centre stand is in a similar condition, you've inspired me to crack on and get it done.
Good man Chris.....
Top job Andy, have the same machine. A great choice and easy to service.
Some things are simple but some smaller ones can take up to hours or in your matter a few days. However, the satisfaction that follows outweighs the difficulty or even paying a small labour charge and getting it done. This satisfaction is priceless.
I agree 100% - I know I'm basically useless but it's always good to have a go!
When I fitted an aftermarket main stand to my TDM850, I used the same ratchet strap method but in reverse. I mounted the springs both ends, then placed the strap through the rear wheel and main stand cross brace and pulled it back until it lined up with the pivot holes. Glad you got it done ok though.
For getting old paint and rust off a wire brush on an electric drill works well and is faster than sandpaper or a Dremel. I'd personally take the rusty bits and get them sand blasted down to white metal and then get them re-powder coated or plastic-dipped - the only reason is the coating is harder wearing and tends to remain intact much longer for items that are subject to impact from road crud. Usually a good idea to put a bit of grease on the centre stand pivot points.
As so many have told me here in the comments, thanks for watching and thanks for the advice!
Looking forward to seeing how bright the Spotlights are with all that shiny new Paint.
She will look Fantastic
Cheers
Thank you!
Another entertaining vid, I suspect a trip back to Nigel’s happened in the ‘missing footage’ 🤣 well done Andy the springs are a right bugger! 👏
I can assure you it didn't - although he may feature in part two of this video!!
Trick for springs is put 2ps or washers between each spring coil to expand it pop it on then carefully remove each coin
I really enjoyed this vid Andy. It is just very real life and having a 9 year old GS myself it’s refreshing to see what most bikers need to do and hold on to your bike! It’s still an excellent machine and yours will look good for a few years to come now.
Glad you enjoyed it Geoff, and thanks for the kind words!
Picked up a used 2017 GS Adventure with 7k miles on it a couple month ago, fantastic machine. I can imagine the new bikes have their own charm but I dont see what else is needed with the bike itself. Mine has the analogue clocks like yours too, which I actually find a bonus these days:) Thanks for the video, ride safe!
Excellent work! I would highly recommend finding a local bead blaster - they can strip off all the rust and paint off anything you give them. Gives you a nice clean surface to work with.
Love the vid Andy a DIY person like myself 😀 centre stand looks great again bike look really tidy look forward to part two 👍
Thanks for watching!
You did well. Rattle can is pretty good stuff these days. I use it often. Keep the can moving about a foot away and not too much at once, 3 or 4 coats is right. Can't do without a center stand. Have them on most all my bikes. BMW's you can spin them around one direction or another for most models. You have a flat they are hard to beat. Good vid. Always work safe. That was a workout cleaning the stand. You did well. A small sandblaster with glass beads would have done well too. Those look good considering the time and conditions you ride in. I got my BMW K1200RS off the centerstand yesterday and then couldn't get the side stand down. With a dodgy knee replacement I thought I was really in a mess but I got it back on the centerstand. Those springs, that's a good technique as long as you don't run out of stretch. Beats pulling by hand. Sometimes vice grips or a C-clamp helps. I have a SW Motech stand for my new R1200 nine T UGS. I hate crawling around right now. Those lights lok good for the money. Anything is better than nothing as long as it works dependably. Chapter two awaits. Next time
Brilliant honest job, well done for not swearing, I would have sworn a bit. 👏👏👏👏👏
Glad you enjoyed it
Still have a scar in the middle of my forehead from about 1984 in a failed attempt at pulling a drum brake spring on with a pair of pliers. Live and learn.
Ouch! I have a similar injury from a bungee strap thing......
And I have a duelling scar on my lip from smashing myself with a pair of pliers doing something similar. Springs can be evil buggers.
I have a memento on an arm - and am glad it wasn't worse. It was a garage door torsion spring.
Everything is dead simple, just a couple of bolts and a spring, until you get into it. I too have spent many hours on simple, 5 minute jobs like this but that’s how we learn. In 2034 when you refurbish that centre stand again you’ll have it back on in half the time 😊
Yes I hope so!!!! :0)
Thanks for posting. Great video, as always. On another bike, as I was riding at night, my bike picked up a piece of debris, kicked it up and as luck would have it, the debris hit the spring for the center stand and broke it. Suddenly I had sparks flying off the back of my bike. My wife, who was on her own bike behind me, said it was very illuminating and fun to watch from a distance.
Crikey!!
Hi Andy, my bikes are females. Always have, always will be. As they are mine then if someone takes offence then that’s their business. Regarding the rust, an old simple, cheap yet very effective removal way is to soak the item(s) in white vinegar for about 48 hours as it just makes the overall process better. Keep up the great work mate!
She's looking great. You did a great job on her. She'll give you many more years of faithful service. She really is a credit to you and the channel. PS, Mrs Flyer also calls her bike She, so all is equal in the world.
I agree - my bikes will always be "she/her"!!
Nice job Andy. That stand came out really well.
Have the same age and
Model GS ….
Have experienced most of the same rust problems as yourself. …
Unfortunately couldn’t get the crash bars off so I had to treat them in situ… hope you have better luck! ….
Kind of worked as also had some disappointing rust on the main frame which you don’t seem to have had… mind you I don’t clean my bike as well and as often as yours!..
And also missed my ACF 50 application last year!…duh!
Love the naturalness of your channel…can’t please everyone all of the time!…look forward to part two..
Thank you!
Well done and good effort. Glad to see you investing a bit of TLC in the trusty GS, a keeper for sure!
I enjoyed that video. I thought you were being restrained as no swearing but had to smile when you said "come on you bugger".
Very clean bike for 10 years old, partly BMW build quality but a testament to regular thorough cleaning.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching and for stopping by....
Andy, I have to say, I for 1 am very pleased to see you giving it a go ( at some bike DIY). It is some thing many riders enjoy and love to watch others giving it a go. Well done with the stand, it certainly did improve the looks. ( I think I would have given it 3 coats of paint, and even a clear coat as well.) 😍
Nice vid TMF. Very satisfying to see those niggles sorted out & the bike looking splendid again as a result.
Cheers - much appreciated!
Just done exactly the same on my gs 700 , I was a bit disappointed that a 2017 bike that is always garaged, cleaned and never intentionally ridden in the rain, had deteriorated so much. I wonder if the cheaper end BMW’s are not the same quality as the larger ones,however I’m really pleased with my results .
I think you are a very brave man to video the reattachment of your center stand springs! I personally like the "...insert many washers in the springs..." method. No matter how you accomplish it it's a bear to do. Very innovative using the ratchet strap!! Well done.
Thank you!
I’m fascinated by work, I could sit and watch it for hours…like a chairman! 👏😂😂🍺🍺👍🇿🇦
that was a heck of a ride to finally bring the bike up again. phew!
Your DIY vids always set themselves up for a drinking game.. a drink every time you say "come on" :) .. congratulations .. so far so good :)
Great to see, legendary bike that one, given you years of adventures and entertainment for us. Well deserved spruce up.
TMF Ace mechanic ! No swearing or old man noises either top job 😮
The poor old GS centre stand always gets the most punishment,I wrapped mine in duct tape 3 yrs ago.God knows what it looks like underneath now,daren't take the stuff off tbh😂
Nice vid. Enjoyed watching a bit of DIY and look forward to the next one👍
Nice work TMF. I used the GLW's black nail varnish to spot up my crash bars done ok for a year so far😃 . Couldn't believe how inexpensive the tank pads are, Thanks for the heads up on them. Always a pleasure being invited into the Bike grotto cheers.
Cheers Barry! Thanks for watching….
You’re like a technical tour de force fitting that centre stand there Andy 😂
Thank you very much - very pleased with myself!
Hi Andy, the she or they debate makes me smile.. I am a 66 year old brummie, and always said she.. It applies to anything from ships to cars and bikes. I don't say it with any disrespect to anyone, and Im a bit long in the tooth to change now.. But I have no problem in what other people call them..
I had my crash bars refurbished for the same reasons.. But I had them re powder coated.. Saves buying new again. Well done on the centre stand, look easier to do than in practice, I know from experience.. Look forward to seeing the next episode..
Thank you Phillip!
Well Andy that bike is 10 years old She is in very good condition and what you is doing to improve her well done she will last another 10 years so take care of her
Yes I'm hoping to keep her long term....
I thoroughly enjoyed watching this. Not entirely sure if that was because I’ve experienced similar frustrations or for some other reason, but I appreciate you showing us the less glamorous side of TMF.
Glad you enjoyed it! I post here only for the purposes of entertainment (not education!)
@@TheMissendenFlyer, indeed.
Did the same on my center stand for my GTR1400. Found the coin method for extending the springs quite effective.
Yes I might try that next time....
My Honda is from 2012 so it’s 12 yo. Great bike. It can easily do another 12 years.
Some rust on the radiator and the center and side stands. Nothing to worry about yet.
What you’re doing under the bike with those springs…well, my shoulders won’t let me do that and if I would do it anyway, I will regret it dearly. I hope you won’t.
A couple of my buddies have done the same...they even bought new decals to change it up....nice job - look forward to the whole remake!!!
Andy - “A” for Effort. “A” for skill with a rattle can. “A” for ingenuity with the ratchet strap - impressive, especially with the acknowledgement of the whole thing going “ping!” and removing an extremity. However, the categories of Time saving and Longevity of Work will not have such excellent scores. A rotary wire brush in power tool (assuming you don’t have a sand blasting cabinet in your shed) would have made preparing things easier. I’m also dubious if “rattle can” black will last for two reasons. Firstly, no anti-rust treatment was made and secondly this sort of paint is very soft. I think you’ll find that you will be revisiting this part again. As usual though, a very entertaining video. Thanks.
And she’s a she.
ps. As others have said, a powder coated finish would have been the way to go and just think, you would not have had to purchase new crash bars and you could have had any colour you wanted.
A few assumptions in there Trev, but thanks for the advice and I'm glad you found it entertaining (which was my aim!). Appreciate the constructive comments as ever....
She is looking good( all my bikes/cars are female), well done sir!
Well you made me smile as my overalls are also covered in paint. Every time I go into the corner shop the owner used to shout ‘ the paint goes on the door’!
My main bike has always been’ the Beast’ whatever that bike is ( currently 850 norton ) but as I currently have 2 , the Rt1200 is the Panzer.
No doubt upsetting someone.
My wife refers to her vintage 7 as he, Cedric. They all seem to have names ….
I fit the spring and then use the leverage of the stand to fit the dowels. Great video.
Thank you....
My center stand started to become sand blasted then rusty after a few months of ownership from new in 2017. So I removed it cleaned it up and then used Hammerite paint. In addition I rapped it with a "seal skin" used by cyclists. Obtained this from Halfords. It is tube formed and held in place by velcro. The seal skin protects well.
Well done , great to see you getting stuck in , please put your old crash bars and lights on a suitable sales site , as not everyone, me included , buys new crash bars ,and it’s good for the environment, I hope you enjoyed doing your tasks , I get lots of pleasure from fettling my motorcycles , and are very proud of the finished results , fantastic.
Yes it was a bit of fun…
Good that your C stand lasted that long. Mine needed doing after less than 6k and 2 years. Dealer repainted it and ive greased it and put hose around it but in the year since the bit thats not covered by the hose is going again. BMW wont cover corrosion on it as its "influenced by the user". Ive always cleaning the bike and dont use it in winter... Powder coating it next.
Really enjoyed watching this video. It's amazing how much better it looks after doing these few jobs. Love how you feel about this motorbike
It took you a long way ,and I always associate it with your channel when I started watching it from the early days . Long may it last 😁👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
TMF. I so enjoyed watching this video. I’m not being nasty when I say I was sharing your pain every step of the way because that is usually me it happens to. Difference is your demeanour is peeved but calm. I would have turned the air blue with frustration and rage.😅
Glad you enjoyed it - I only post these things up for entertainment, I'm sure there are many out there like me.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer
Loved the video of Carol getting her new 650 Kawasaki. Have the pair of you done anymore regarding her foray into the bike World …..or you have and I’ve missed it.
Call the bike what you like, with the centre stand springs, I have found the easiest way is to put the spring on first, then the dowel on the spring side , then use the centre stand as a lever put in the other side. Still a bit of a pain ,a lot easier than trying to attach the springs afterwards
Good tip!
Great job with the centre stand. I've been wondering how tricky that would be. Now I know!
they do treatments for rust inhibiting, when i did that to mine I also took it down to metal in places, but I coated mine in the rust inhibiter which made it go black, then sprayed it in primer, followed by heat proof black paint, sanded down with 160 then coated again in gloss heat proof, it came out looking factory, and so far have had Zero issues, but i warn you do the process in a well ventilated area and allow at least 5 hours for the first 4 steps , the gloss final 30 mins between coats,
Suprised you bought new crash bars, fairly easy to strip back and paint and wuda looked brand new
I really enjoyed this episode. So more garage maintenance, please.👍
Part two coming soon!
Has to be said Andy that although you’ve been looking after it to be fair, the GS has held up amazing well. A lot of critique of BMW out there but the build quality/longevity is still there overall…..thanks, great video!
Agree with all the comments about getting the stand properly blasted and recoated, but never with powder coat, one stone chip and the water will get in and pretty soon the coating will flake off. Get it done with twin pack black paint. As for the her him they them thing, leave that for the people who think it makes a difference, the bike is an It!
Every couple of years or so the cross bar on my GS centre stand becomes rusty,.
My bodge solution is; clean, rub down with sandpaper, white spirit to wash off debris, then Hammerite smooth black paint.
Great video! Call the bike whatever you want, it’s your bike! 😉
Stand looking a lot better Andy, but rattle can paint tends to be soft and will chip easily, especially the horizontal section in front of the wheel. What I did was to wrap some paint protect vinyl around the horizontal section, the thick stuff used to protect in front of a rear wheel arch, and it has remained chip and rust free. 👍
Great idea!
Enjoyed this video Andy, Its always good to have a 'Nigel' as backup when you mess things up. I do think its good to get to know your bike by wrenching on it. Even if it doesn't always go to plan.
It never goes to plan when i get involved!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Same!
BMW subsequently fitted a plastic guard to the centre stand, easy to retrofit with cable ties . This will protect the centre stand from chips and rust . Probably not too expensive to buy. TTFN.
Good morning TMF, I view this channel for its great content and informative reviews. It's a shame that cancel culture is creeping into everything we do ignore the haters and carry on with what you say and do, this is why you have so many loyal subscribers Andy.
Much appreciated!
Personally Andy I would have taken parts like the crash bars and centre stand to a powder be powder coated. Cheaper than replacements and a lot more durable in the long run.
Lots of people have said the same - didn’t even occur to me!
😂😂drinking my tears here Mr flyer don't take up panel beating and spray painting Mr flyer love the the technical way you use the spray can😂...
I'm here to entertain! ....though I'm not sure what you mean by the "techinical way I use a spray can"? I thought my rattle can spraying way actually alright....
Just done the same thing on my 14 plate GSA. New screen, seat and spot lights. Great bikes .
It’s surprising how a few simple bits of sprucing up can bring a bike back to its former glory!
I hate springs, somehow I always end up in pain. even with the right tool. After you clean as close to bare metal as you can. Use some Phosphoric Acid the active ingredient in the expensive rust eater. Changes the rust oxide. To an oxide which is hard and supposedly water resistant for next time. Which is about as good as you can do for a DIY paint job.
Anyway nice to see the GS getting some TLC.
Well done TMF!
Nice work TMF I believe but could be wrong that all or most bike stands are made by one or two companies and never to a great standard, as everyone will know they rust fairly easy and seem to have just one thin coat of paint from new. I always give the stand a good clean and at least once a year a rub down and spray with Hammerite to keep the rust at bay. I never take it off the bike because I’m as handy with the tools as you maybe even worse.
What I do with my bikes is add layers of Duct Tape to the centerstand cross bar to absorb stone chips etc.
Good idea.....
You're more patient than I would be. By now the air would be full of words not fit for I tube! LOL!
50 shades of grey LOL. Hammerite or Simonez Tough paint are good options as they don't need a primer coat. I've also put helicopter tape on the cross member in the past, secured with cable ties to take the brunt of the stone impacts. At the moment I've got some of the plastic sleeving you put on 15mm copper piping to tidy the plumbing up rather than paint it I had lying around in the garage after refurbing the bathroom on my centre stand, again held in place with cable ties and that seems to be doing a good job so far. Good luck with the crash bars, I hope you've got an extra long socket to get the nut undone on the rear top mount as my normal sockets were not quite long enogh to go over the long bolt that goes through the frame and onto the nut itself. Ebay is your friend if you don't have a set 😉
That was great Andy thank you. Informative and funny. If that prat gets offended by your joke you're better off without him. Keep up the good work.
Glad you enjoyed it!
While your are completing the refresh - remove the gear lever pivot and 'add blue grease' but also check the two rose joints on the gear lever movement - Very easy to reomve and refit = NO Tools required - just use your thumb nail and unclip the small clip - Looks like a C clip on a cocktail stick - the insert can be loaded with grease and any excess gets pushed out when you refit. Unclip the one nearest the front wheel first, it gets better acces to the rears one. And to quote a certain Haynes manual - refitting is the reverse - It does make a difference to gearchanges. Certainly improved my R1200RS gear selection.
Thanks for the advice!
As you have other bike to use while the GS is off the road, I would have taken all the rusty metalwork off the bike and have a local specialist shot blast it, then galvanize everything before black powder coating. Would probably work out cheaper than the replacement crash bars, and you could be confident that the finish would be better than original.
Those fog lights look good value, may have to order a pair for my Crosstourer, unless I bite the bullet, and trade it in for a brand new CRF300. I think it was you that said it's much more fun riding a slow bike fast, than riding a fast bike slowly, and as I get older, I'm finding the Crosstourer to be getting a bit unwieldy.
Yes for sure....light always wins as we age!
Go with Simoniz tough paint. I learnt it from Delboys garage channel, really good stuff. No primer or laquer needed either. Ventilation too and ensure your bikes are covered for over spray. 🙈
It. ‘They’ aren’t people, ‘they’ are machines…but you do you.
Deeeeep cleaning a bike. What fun!