Russia's Secret Nuke Train - The RT-23 Molodets Program
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The American train, yes please.
Hell yeaaaaa
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hell yeah, murica. ofc ussr cool
@@JailTheDeveloper just cool , it's freaking awesome comrade
Yeaaaaaaaaaaa
This train is in the current display in St.Petersberg, Russia, It's exibited in the Raiway Transport Museum. This nuclear strike train is a masterpiece among a fantastic layout. Tickets cost really few.
In the war a german cant go to russia 😂
@@quattrodrift3376are you sure about that
because it doesn't work
Oh cool! I would love to see it! Must be quite the sight and experience, Im not really into trains so im sure the museum would have much for me to learn
@@quattrodrift3376 Why not? Everyone else can
extremely cool animation there, love the train heading through the snow
Legend thank you!
@@FoundAndExplained swore I was watching "Polar Express" *USSR EDITION* ..... Looks Rad!
@@FoundAndExplained no disrespect but your like a slightly lower budget mustard
@@sr_aron I like to put mustard on my biscuits.
@@FoundAndExplained Soviet free co 2
This was a very complex project involving mass modernization of USSR railway system - thousand km of railways reconstructed for these trains. Unbelievably, in the early 80s the first fiber optic networks were laid along the railroads to exchange information with High Command and provide exact location with hybrid navigation systems, special tracks were equipped to launch missiles and so on. This project was effective but very expensive.
@@user-nu1vn3yy9s Were you the curator of this project? How did you define "total failure"? At that time, liberals declared everything a "total failure", including submarines, over-the-horizon radars, space weapons deployment, and victories in wars.
The merit of these trains is that the concepts of mobile ICBM launches were developed on their basis, and without that the Topols and Yars simply did not take place. And time has shown that the mobile ICBM launch makes serious difficulties in any attempts to intercept missiles in the early stage of flight.
Был? Он есть. Их усовершенствовали, они ездят по самой большой железной дороге в мире.
The USA tried this with its "MX Missile" program where trains similar to the Soviet's version where several trains would always be on the move, thereby hiding them in plain sight. At the USAF Museum in Dayton, Ohio has parts of one of these train cars on display.
Thanks for the info never knew about this.
Can't even have a normal Train in Ohio on gah 💀
The MX basing study is publicly available now. It’s really really insane
Yep! I remember it from the 70's/80's. Wikipedia: "Peacekeeper Rail Garrison" has one article about it.
Ohio
Dude, these animations are slapping! Awesome work :D
Dude. I love your channel. It's nice seeing one of my favorite creators on another one of the channels I love
One additional advantage of cold launch systems is that there’s a slight increase in missile range as the missile itself doesn’t need to waste fuel getting out of the silo itself
Requesting videos on the following:
-switchblade aircraft designs such as the FA-37 Talon from the ‘05 movie “Stealth” or the X-02 Wyvern from the Ace Combat franchise
-Super Tomcat-21 and ASF-14
-the NATF program as a whole
-early ATF proposals
-Sea Apache
-F-20 Tigershark
-Bae SABA
-Lockheed Martin’s Advanced Technology Bomber proposal
And: Nuker subs, but I'm a fast attack nerd who used to be building a cold war sub sim. Smarter everyday did a peice inboard but hardly? The new bomber sounds interesting though.
@@derrekvanee4567 uhhhhh…what? Not sure what you’re talking about…and the bomber request is about Lockheed’s submission to the competition that created the B-2 Spirit, not the new B-21 Raider
Arsenal bird from ace combat?
Good knowledge
"Write that down... write that down!!"
Such an amazing video about such a devastating tech.
Thanks for the wonderful comment!
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Your 3D models are OUTSTANDING!, kudos to your model team, they are doing really good work!
If you like this guy try watching mustard, they make strikingly similar content
Animation's good, yet not accurate to what the train really looked like
The model was made by Tim Samedov, he was credited at the beginning.
Amtrak has its own way of being stealth: never being on time and thus not where they're supposed to be because they don't get money they need and they can't punish the freight companies for fucking them over
Lol
Sir, everyone knows immediately and without doubt that you are a man.
@@koolaidblack7697 Your dad looks cute in a collar and leash
The train was heavy - extremely heavy. There were twice the regular number of railway carts, and yet rails could barely manage it. Derails plagued those trains and a rocket fuel for those rockets was very toxic as well.
Сколько поездов таких сошло с рельс? Первый раз слышу.
@@pawelnovikov5026 , не знаю, но знаю что это случалось. Более того в СССР не было колёсных кранов необходимой грузоподъёмности (200T). Кран прислали из США после подписания договора СНВ.
Вот что об этом говорится в официальной прессе:
«Однако есть у него и минусы. В прошлом устанавливавшиеся на "Молодце" твердотопливные ракеты РТ-23 имели вес по 110 тонн каждая, что требовало усиления железнодорожной колеи по маршруту движения поезда и в местах запусков.
"В Советском Союзе два этих поезда за счет своей массы были очень ограничены в перемещении по путям. Они просто раздавливали рельсы. Поэтому вычислить их было сравнительно несложно", - рассказал другой эксперт, главный редактор журнала "Экспорт вооружений" Андрей Фролов.»
www.bbc.com/russian/features-38064630
@@antonburdin9756 Мне кажется у Вас противоречие:
1) "Derails plagued those trains and a rocket fuel for those rockets was very toxic as well."
2) В прошлом устанавливавшиеся на "Молодце" твердотопливные ракеты РТ-23.
Часто наоборот заявляется, что нетоксичность твердого ракетного топлива - один из главных его плюсов. Поправьте если я не прав.
@@alexandrvasilev2865 , думаю Вы правы.
Хотя у меня очень мало информации о свойствах смесей твёрдого топлива используемого в РТ-23 (Т9-БК-8Э на первой ступени и ОПАЛ на второй), по всей видимости, они намного безопаснее НДМГ и других топливных компонентов предыдущего поколения ракет (УР-100).
just love the blender animations they look so smooth
The editing quality keeps going up every time I watch. I didn't know anything about this train design/plan lol.
Most of the training we had in the Soviet strategic special operations ( GRU number undisclosed) was to liquidate ( destroy or incapacitate) Chinese Dhungh Class nuclear ballistic systems that were train mobile platforms and usually located in heavily guarded mountain tunnels.
The idea was to use the steel jacket AK 47 round to disable the outer communications conus of the ballistic tip , rendering the system unguidable while fending off about 1000 - 3000 armed PLA guards with a team of about 7 men LOL plus the officer .
Our team would usually be assigned a KGB officer or a Spetznas lieutenant , he would be supplied with a portable NSZ style nuclear backback, the dialer would let you control variable yield up to about 20 KT. the Idea here was if you got close to the Chinese missile and it is not visibly refueling therefore not exposed to visible gunfire. The nuclear backpack could be setup to detonate in the vicinity you would have to be close enough to either seal the tunnel but hopefully liquidate the missile entirely.
The fallback plan would be that upon supposed "success" a helicopter will come to extract you in the morning.
./.....Even though you are literally 1000 miles inland China, with a possible nuclear war taking place. LOL
I think in the end, the Topol-M proved to be a better idea because you didn't have to depend on a railway network to move the missile around. And with Russia's own GLONASS satellites, the missile could get accurate target information without having to build specifically marked out forest clearings to launch the missile.
Have you ever tried to use glonass?? Useless and very inaccurate with triangulation error in hundreds of meters...
@@o.b.873 missing a nuke by a hundred meters matters how?
@@therealswagmaster666 i laughed hard
@@therealswagmaster666 for tactical nuclear strike, precision is everything
Topol family was desighned before GLONASS apearence.
That train also had "Perimetr" (Dead Hand) receiving antenna, like silo-based RT-23.
Found and Explanied rail edition? YES PLESE! And that animation looks so good!
I believe there have been several rail-oriented Found and Explain videos. One I recall was on the Nazi Germany super-size trains, grand ambitions like everything else German at the time that were basically trains scaled up 2x in every dimension (meaning 8x the volume per car - twice as wide, twice as long, two stories tall). Intended to link the anticipated land-based German empire like the ocean liners did the more maritime British empire. I seem to recall at least one other rail-oriented video as well, but can't remember the topic.
I believe its only these two? Oh I did the plane train (a propeller powered train from 1910) and I think I did monorails?
@@quillmaurer6563 I remeber that! I saw the video its was unsual to think that the germans wana have a 3m broad gauge
@@quillmaurer6563 Thanks for you response anyways . Have a nice day!
*When Thomas the Train Engine has had enough:*
Its Thomas the Tank Engine.
Thomas the rocket engine
Tomas the thermal nuclear bomb was actually real
There are a few Dole fruit trains still around.
A problem I see with these trains is you wouldn't have to target every single train, even the civilian ones, you could just target the tracks
they could park up in a yard if they run out of tracks to run on. Not ideal, but they'd still be fairly well disguised there.
Also, the USSR has a lot of tracks. I think by the time they'd destroyed all the tracks, the nukes would already be fired
This train was not built in a single copy. There were usually several of them on the railroad on any given day.
How would that help? If the US was actively attacking the USSR homeland in an effort to prevent a nuclear retaliatory strike, the trains would just stop and launch their missiles wherever they were. They didn’t need to travel or hide anymore, their mission was achieved and the fact that the US had to hit the tracks and not the train would hypothetically imply that the trains all survived, thus so did their missiles.
In Soviet Russia, nukes come by train
In Soviet Russia, train nukes you!
The animated video of this Soviet ghost train travelling at high speed through snowy terrain, It's eerily looks like the scene from the movie Snowpiercer!!!
This train is awesome and scary at the same time.
Imagine one of these nuke trains derailing randomly in a city...
I don't know as much about Soviet ICBMs, but from what I know of American ICBMs that would be pretty bad - though not because of the nuclear warhead. American nuclear warheads are designed to not go off even in a plane crash, numerous such crashes happened and none have gone off. I think in one case the conventional explosives went off but no nuclear detonation. A train crash probably wouldn't set off something designed to withstand a plane crash. I don't know if Soviet warheads had similar safeguards, based on other US-vs.-Soviet comparisons I'm guessing they had less safeguards than American ones but were still designed to not go off in a wreck. The bigger danger though is the rocket's fuel. I'm pretty sure these are liquid-fuel rockets, and for a portable ready-to-launch rocket they'd need "shelf-stable" fuels that don't require cryogenic temperatures, and ignite on contact - meaning hypergolic fuels such as hydrazine. These are extremely reactive, the tank bursting open would almost immediately explode, and are also incredibly toxic.
@@quillmaurer6563 true. In the 1960s, two USA military planes collided during a maneuver over Spain. One of them was a B52 bomber carrying 4 nuclear warheads.
Two of the bombs were released with an emergency parachute and landed safely, one on land and another on the sea. They were retrieved intact shortly after. The other two bombs couldn't be released and crashed into the ground, they were completely destroyed and the radioactive material evaporated in the air (some areas were temporarily contaminated as a result of the accident), but without activating the nuclear reaction that would have caused an atomic explosion.
Thanks to the emergency safeguards built into these bombs, a potentially catastrophic result was avoided and the whole accident "only" killed 7 of the crew members from the crashed aircraft.
@@quillmaurer6563 these rockets are solid fuel and they probably have the best protection against damage or launch, so I found a more detailed documentary video
ruclips.net/video/5hvpWV9C5sA/видео.html
@@user-ty4xt8rw5b That video has a lot of good info, thanks! I was wrong, they were solid fuel. Early ICBMs were crygogenic fuels, next were hypergolic, then eventually solid. I would imagine that to be far less dangerous than hyergolic fuels, though if it were to be ignited - say if the whole train caught on fire in a wreck - it could still cause some serious problems. But it would take a pretty serious fire, caused by more than just the train itself, to do that - such as a collision with an oil train that set everything on fire (like in the Lac-Megantic disaster). But in a situation like that everything is pretty screwed regardless of the missile, the fire/explosion from the oil train would probably do more damage than anything the missile might cause so long as the warheads don't go off (which even in that situation they shouldn't).
@@osasunaitor Aren't nukes fail-safe regardless? They aren't fragile at all and require extremely precise detonation of the regular high explosives surrounding the core otherwise it won't even detonate at all.
Even a "live" nuclear warhead coming towards a city, if it was intercepted by another missile, won't do anything at all (besides spreading a bit of radioactive material, but that should be completely negligent, because the radioactive stuff are a few kilograms at most, spread over a huge region of sky)
I would like to see you cover our attempt at a rail based ICBM system.
There's footage of it working on YT, which is really cool
Let's hope we never seen nuke weapons like these in our lifetime
Never understood why the movie Snowpeircer wasn't set in Russia or USSR, they are mad for trains, snow and the apocalypse
The train looks like it’s going 200 miles an hour in every clip that is shown, not sure why.
Incredibly done high quality videos just impressive you need more subscribers
We need more train videos like this
Great story and animations! Thanks. 👍
Ничего себе! Ты создаёшь классную анимацию! Такой могут позавидовать многие документалки!!
The animation is damn that train looks fast
People who played Himan 3 : "I've seen this one. Its a classic"
dude, your delivery is awesome. Keep it up!
Awesome content as always mate!
Thanks for the visit
Интересное видео, кстати таких поездов курсировало не малое количество.
Но его модель представленная в видео это просто что-то с чем то)))
Such a nice video. And animations are very cool. I've never heard of this Soviet development before
I just discovered this channel, I’m surprised it doesn’t have more subscribers!
Fantastic video. Very well presented
Covering the MX basing study options would be amazing
If some company made a model on this, I’ll freaking buy it
I am pretty sure there are Soviet carts in most modell scales like these, the locomotives are standard M62, you can find many modells.
The deployed rocket is the only hard part.
Please make a video on Russia's DEAD HAND
A modern (non-nuclear) version with an s400 or zircon launcher would be interesting
There is a version of two non-nuclear rocket inside shipping container. "Club-K" (Калибр-К).
itd be uselss tho. Like the range is a limiting factor, so it wouldn't really be able to protect much of anything.
@@honkhonk8009 apparently they already have it - known as the club-k system
It is insane how much money are spent in Russia and in USA for new nuke technologies and for maintain existing ones. Madness world, with corrupted and mindless people as ruling elite worldwide. Instead all these money and natural resources could be spent for people's comfort, medicine, education, incurable diseases treatment development, etc.
By the way, 3D animation is incredible.
Согласен
Brilliant concept 👍
Nice video, love the visuals.
The animations of the various moving trains are really good.
The US train would be stuck in the inefficient US rail network and be taken out as it waits in a passing siding
Now THIS is the Crazy Train!
I was thinking they would have to have some sort of soft launch for it; Cold launch tech was pioneered on submarines, and today there are even man portable missle launchers that use a soft/cold launch, the Javlen ATGM for example
Nothing like an advert in the middle of the video to throw your concentration right off
As usual animation in the video is pretty cool! And some words about the diesel tank at 3:40. It has labels of "Gazprom" transport branch and marks saying that "Gaztrans" is the owner of the tank so it is the stuff of the time when Russia turned to (state)Capitalism values, not true Soviet diesel tank. But the city where the tank-platform is registered is Krasnoyarsk. My native city so I found it great personal easter egg =))
The 3D model was made by Tim Samedov, who was credited at the beginning, but I don't think F&E would've gotten it right either.
Nice thanks for the info 👍
During the Cold War, the West thought Russia was just looking for a reason to start a nuclear war. And the Soviets thought the same thing about the West. Thank goodness, that in the end, neither side wanted to use their nukes. 😅
Dude it is worse allready. At least back then American/USSR leaders were kind of sane. This time escalation is happenning almoust every week, without any reasonable solution to end this conflict.
When the president is 80 years old, who knows how bad things really are 🙈
@@bomjahed The US system is alot like Canada/Britain, in that the president and federal government do not have full controll over states/provinces/parties.
Just like how Trudeau is in a minority government, Biden doesn't have that much support from even his own party, so crazy shit would be difficult to execute.
@@redsun9261 Back then USSR leaders weren't sane in the slightest. They were what people thought Donald Trump would be.
The problem with unified and centralized power with long terms, is that its easily abused.
Eventually the one in charge goes crazy.
Russia has a habit of insane leaders. The most insane leaders the Americans have had, pale in comparison. The closest in comparison would be George Bush and Nixon.
This same concept was used in the James Bond movie golden eye as the bad guys mobile base but with a modified British 20 class loco and a helicopter hanger was counseled in the opening wagon instead
Da komrad, Russian nuke train? Plane, train, and motor carriage, da, do yiu ever taste plutonium and vodka? Very good komrad. Your komrad: Ivan.
4:46 Good to know ppl finally know this game
One of my rocket science teachers was the developer of this complex.
4:48 was just waiting for this
6:05 it's not an Iskander, this is a Bastion, seacoast missile defense unit
Even though the RT-23 didn't get converted into a space launch platform, another Russian iCBM did, the R-36M. Deconned R-36's are converted into the Dnepr launch platform, currently the only commercial space rocket to launch from a silo.
Gas propelled cold launch was in us by the US from the early 60 with the Polaris missiles on SSBN.
Not sure if you have an earlier Soviet example for the claim they invented it first but given the delay between submerged launch deployment between the US and the USSR I'm not sure the latter did it first.
Here is the mistake of the author of the video, he called the Mortar launch, a gas launch.
You were the first to use a Gas stratum on the polaris complex, which pushes the rocket out of the submarine shaft with compressed gases (in fact, like a torpedo shot).
We were the first to use a mortar launch (this is when a powder charge pushes out a rocket, as when a mortar is fired).
We saw that a small block of the rocket fell off from the bottom after the launch, well, this is the very charge.
Comrade , we were the first
@@F.O.U.N.D.E.R Greeting Comrade, not used after the collapse of the USSR.
The only exception is the Army.
The military in Russia still uses such a Greeting.
@@user-jq3qk2nq2q Д.А.
@@user-jq3qk2nq2q thanks for the details.
Imagine your certain the all of the enemy's population is dead due to some chemical or disease you used to kill them and then almost a month later nukes come from a random spot in your country
you can hate soviets, but you can deny their engineering ideas were amazing, so much potential and futuristic stuff they tried to make, sadly collapsed before most of them could be made.
MAZ 7907 deserves its own video I guess.
I mean its not just about having the train up and running, as soon as your enemies know, you can play with them, because who's to say that you didn't move your whole arsenal onto multiple trains like this?
If research had gone further they probably could've progressed to have a few cars simply on a passenger train.
What rendering program did you use for the train models?
now that's what i call, The Runaway Train
It doesn't make sense to develop this type of system without letting your opponent know you have it. If your opponent thinks it knows were all your missiles are located, the likelihood it will do a first strike increases. Maybe the Soviets leaked the existence of the rail system, so America wouldn't risk a first strike.
They knew that it would leak sooner or later anyway.
@@larsjonasson2959 You're probably right. In fact, they wouldn't even have to develop the system. Just doing everything they could trying to keep it a secret, would convince the U.S. they had it. This would force the U.S. to spend a bunch of money to defeat the non existent system. I'm beginning to wonder if the Russians really did have it.
4:43 "this is some serious metro 2033 vibes" followed by a Filmora $45 transition with a royalty free swoosh sound, couldn't get worse than that Lmfao
"High altitude spy plane directed orbital missiles has entered the chat"
What do you mean with "short circuit the power lines and use it as needed". You don't get power by shorting something out.
talking about trains, what about the M-497 "black Beetle" train with turbo jet engines?
This is awesome, comrade!
I got this recommanded after a snowpiercer video, i can see were the all-mighty algorithme made the connexion. It look so good.
Hope you enjoy!
@@FoundAndExplained sure did 😄
The train in the animation looks like it’s about go FTL.
As far as I know, the Americans built a dosimeter apparatus hidden in a shipping container that was able to detect a passage of this nuclear train and sent it to the USSR. It was later discovered by KGB.
Was this the Crazy Train Ozzy was talking about?
I knew it- the Soviet Molodets- class Nuke ICBM Launcher Train...
Though it may not be as quick hitting as the Scarp Voevoda/Satan One, Topol-M, Yars, Bulava, and the newly designed RS-28 SARMAT/Satan Two...
But: it's still quite deadly.
All of Its was been destroyed in 2005 ( during the START II ) :D
@@hacaothi5683 No. You're wrong. And this is not a secret.
@@evl1536 check for START II 🐸 and why i 'm wrong 🐸
@@evl1536 here if you don't know : en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT-23_Molodets
@@hacaothi5683 I know a little bit about what's going on.
РТ-23 УТТХ "Молодец" (RT-23 "Molodets" (a soft obsolete but used form of the word - daring/daredevil) was decommissioned because their missiles are designed for a 15-year service life, which expired in 2002-2004.
In 2007, the development of a more modern combat rail missile system (CRMS) "Barguzin" for a more modern rocket began. Which one is not exactly known, three options are assumed, including hypersonic.
In 2018, the project in the state program was suspended and moved to 2027, as funding was redistributed to mine-based hypersonic missiles as more important at the moment for defense capability.
What has been done until 2018:
-successful tests of a new rocket have been conducted at the Plesetsk cosmodrome for CRMS
-new lightweight wagons have been developed that do not differ in appearance from conventional cargo
-CRMS will be equipped with 5 rockets and the entire train will be pulled by one locomotive
In 2020, there was information about the possible resumption of work on the CRMS Barguzin, but it is impossible to confirm or deny this.
The US Air Force actually considered such a concept back in the 1960s with the Minuteman missile. That project explains why the Minuteman was designed to be small for an ICBM because it had to fit inside the limited confines of a railway car.
Good video documentary.
This is a brilliant idea for a counter attack on any military adversary to the Russian Federation and it's a brilliant idea because you can't find a needle in a haystack so it's very stealthy 🌠💫🌠
knowing the russians, they'd load up the wrong cars
0:22 seconds. "Казенные Северные Железные Дороги" (Government owned (slang) North Railroad) with coat of arms of Russian Federation on WW1 style train cart, also it shows an date emblem 12/7/1917 date on it 🤣. That was funny because it would tell western intelligence right away that the train they should spy for. 😂 You mixed everything up thanks to wiki/open source information, mix Russian federation with Soviet Union 😁 Thanks for the video thou.
This train is literally parked in my town's railway station.
A lot of military guys are around it💀
In russia?
please cover the tu 160 bomber
Fun fact :- this program is so successful that india north korea,china has accepted this of course unofficially
Some Spy needs to hide a GPS tracker on that thing.
Kinda interesting that they planned a mobile Nuke train.
“You may think that this train is like any other.”
Me looking at the video title:
It doesnt make sense to develop such a weapon and then keep it completely secret. the whole idea of doomsday weapons is that they are a deterrent against an attack. it seems obvious, but if nobody knows you have that weapon then what would stop them from attacking you?
well it's like a death surprise
American missile trains could be found out with radiation detectors hidden along railway lines. Right alongside the American domestic radiation sensor network you're not supposed to know about.
Its the other way around. The US puts up dosimeters on cargo crates that was supposed to pinpoint these trains.
Americans were think of putting missiles on trains/planes, but it was scrapped for the same reason they dont use 747's for military purposes.
Endangering civilian infrastructure would be counter-productive
@@honkhonk8009 The reasoning in Russia is surely when railroads are under attack, then everything else is too late as well.
9:50 Yas Queen
10:02 " ... or perhaps that's what they want us to think .."
Unlikely. that would defeat the purpose of these trains existence as deterrent.
they are of no use if they are not known about until launch at which point its already too late and everything is about to be over.
British song
Well, now when you mentions them.. Seriously, you should make a video about the history of the Topol M and Rs24 Yars and their missile platforms
Nice train i hope we see it a new metro games
Am i the only one who can see this channel being very similar to Mustard?
They are very similar. Especially in the topics of aviation. Although Mustard is a bit more serious in tone and presentation, Found and Explained is a bit lighter and does include some memes and jokes in his vids and animation. Both good in my opinion.
When *_GETTING GHOSTED_* becomes *_HARDCORE._*
😊😊😊
How about the Chinese and North Korean version of the train. Their loads can hit RAAF Bases in Queensland and Northern Territory possibly RAAF Bases in The States of Western and South Australia.
But who would want to nuke Australia?
It's got nothing....
@@devilliers123 the Chinese and the North Koreans because they know that Australia is possibly going to be used as a base by the United States and it's allies against them
This train was dismantled in 1990. It was scrapped for the steal except for the engine. It's still running in eastern part of Russia.