When I watched this I laughed, not at Larry, at how simple he made this, for years, I’ve struggled, I’ve paid for reining clinics, worked with different trainers, I could not get my Sorrel horse to spin correctly, all my other horses spin and they do great, my sorrel horse and I went down a path that complicated everything. I’ve been “rewatching” (I suggest rewatching”) this video the last two days and applying this to my sorrel horse. She is finally reaching over to cross and she has a pivot foot. I couldn’t be more happy. I just can’t believe this was free. Thank you, Larry what you doing for people is so beautiful.
Having huge issues with my colt pivoting on wrong foot and couldn't figure out how to get him to change - the video helped immensely and hopefully pushing him out of it at trot/lope will improve this - Thanks Larry, really appreciate it and also the rider critique video showing me EXACTLY what I am doing wrong! Laura
These 3 videos helped me out immensely! As someone who is new to reining, i couldn't understand what i was doing wrong and getting such a horrible spin. Did everything in these videos and we're so much better because of it. Thank you do much for sharing!
I bought a trotter for 1 year ago. Now I'm retraining him to western. I want him to be a nice reining horse, although he also used a little to the trail. Only to the hobby. Your videos really helps a lot! He moves the front end, but he is not quite moving 90 degrees and even though I hold and then release a couple of times he still moves his back end around. -Silje (From Norway)
thank you so much for this video! i bought my own horse and i pay for everything for her and i cant always afford lessons. this video was extremly helpful for me! i cant wait to get out there and work with her =]
Glad you like him LMH. I liked him too. When I got him finished in the bridle, I won a couple year-end championships on him in the open division. His owner won a year-end championship in the non-pro division as well. Larry T.
Larry you are a amassing teacher I applied your techniques to my horse , and oh my goodness it worked in a few minutes ,all she wanted to do was kick her butt out ,once I applied your technique she stoped I am so so ! Happy thanks a million 😁
Hi Alesha, Yes, occasionally. No clinics are currently scheduled because I plan on moving my training stable over by Sacramento and I'm not sure when that will happen. Larry
Hi LaRana, That is a John Israel, low, square port, mullen mouth with 8" shanks. The horse in the video is green in this curb bit and you can see he's not comfortable with it yet. Just a week earlier, he was still in a ring snaffle. Larry
Have only recently found your videos - and love how you explain the methods you do! I thought I had a soft horse, untill I came across this and the next vid. My main aim now is suppleness and impulsion. So important. And so excited to put this into action. Just want to thank you for your wprk, and thank you for sharing what you know. *Im from Australia, and Ive been training an ex race horse, and looking to going into Campdraft and Stockmans Challenges - I am so glad I came across your videos. I too was making the 'common mistakes' you mentioned!
I can't wait to try with this with my pleasure gelding. He has an old soft tissue damage injury to his left hock. Will that hinder him any? He has gotten really bad about going backwards with my lesson student and sometimes with me. I hpoe this will help him. I'm going to have to try it. Thank you for the information. Very clear and easy to understand.
@foiran Thank you. I really liked him. He was green when this video was shot but he developed into a good show horse, winning several year-end championships in reining and working cow horse. Larry T.
@ValtronW no, spinning does not require 'special shoes' but reining horses wear slide plates on their back feet so that they can slide in their stops. slide plates are extra wide shoes that go on their back feet and are perfectly smooth. as far as spinning goes, any horse can learn how if trained properly with or without shoes.
Larry - I absolutely love the way you describe your training steps. Very helpful. I'm working with a mare that definitely lacks impulsion, and pops her hip out constantly. I've been working about a week on the "turn and drive" - do you find it more useful to drive out at a walk, trot, or lope (or does it matter as long as they're moving forward?) Thanks, and keep up the awesome work!
Hi Kelsey, You need to watch part 2 and part 3 here on youtube. You gotta teach your horse to move away from rein and leg pressure or she'll never learn how to spin. So many people simply go through the motions and never get a response to the leg or rein. Consequently, they never advance. Larry T
Thanks Larry your videos are absolutely helpful to me and every trainer. The thing is that I'm training a horse the basics, but it's charro reining which mexican bits and reining. Is it good to teach my horse the american reining style?? thank you so much////
@MegaFeeds You have a very good chance if your horse has the aptitude for reining. Just about any breed of horse can rein but some individuals of that breed will be more suited for it than others. On the other side of that coin, there are plenty of Quarter Horses that don't have the aptitude for reining. Larry T.
thanks for these. I'm very rusty with legs right now and trying to get that connection back, and for the life of me, couldnt seem to figure out the proper way to ask for the spin... since I was apprently doing it wrong. Will be taking these tips to the barn tomorrow.
I love how you broke this down so that it was easy to follow. I will be trying this with my 4 year old. Where are you located? Do you offer clinics? Thanks!
hello bring on part 2m i have a problem with my right side spin my 3 year old, is locking front legs, and ive been using the rein, release,rein,release!! Also i been working her in a snaffle ring bit, and just introduced her in a bob avila short shank dog bone 3 piece snaffle bit with copper roller!! bring on some more exciercsies??
Larry, can I ask a quest on your "rein-release"? I think I was trying to release with my fingers on "rein-release" instead of what I think your doing which is moving the reins BACK to their original place on the "release" but maybe its both. Always working to get "better-hands" I'm at the very beginning stages of your Rollback& spins video trying to get my horse doing the very fundamental excersizes shown in your Rollbacks & Spins tape.
love watching these videos, my mare knows her leg pressures and is soft in the mouth, she's just so frustrating to work with because she is very "mareish", any ideas as to how I can get her attention instead of her being so focused on everything/everyone else?
In reining you go to the curb bit for more precise, one-handed control (important in the show arena). That bit actually has a very mild, mullen mouthpiece. The horse just isn't used to the shanks and leverage yet. Yes, your horse could easily learn to spin. However, teaching the plant-the-pivot-foot spin will mess up a correct pirouette.
@noodle0912 it is the bit really... if you are the kind of person that barrel races or does speed events i would use a snaffle; but if you rein, do cutting, or western pleasure you can use the more collective bit and they will respond better with quiet hands and lose reins. ;)
Hi Larry, I have been trying to teach my horse to spin, but he doesn't seem to get what I want. He knows how to turn on the forehand at a relatively steady/quick pace. Whenever I try to get him to move his front end, he just does his turn on the forehand. Any suggestions?
I will also teach my trotter that when I move my legs a certain way he will canter. But he keeps trotting very fast before he starts to lope. Do you have a video that can help? -Silje (From Norway)
Hi Lary, my horse has done level 1 in parelli natrual horsemanship and he will spin his front end away from me on the ground but he wont do it when im on him if u could give me some tips on how to get him to do it when im on him that would be great. Jessica
Larry, I worked on this for the first day with my 4 year old standardbred mare. We've been working on neck reining so she is still fairly new to it, but she is becoming more supple and willing to turn. When I use a rein/release fashion and begin getting her to turn, we just stay in bigger circles and never bring it down small enough to actually spin. Should I work on the turn and go more, or is there another step I can take?
I am curious, what kind of bit are you using, and would you use your hands differently (in what you demonstrated last) if you were using a different bit?
Hi Larry, my horse tends to walk out of the spin with out me asking. if I don't pull back with the reins and just use my outside leg, she turns and walks foreword out of the spin.
my mare will yield her forequarters going to the right but when we try the left. she really locks up in the front and swings her butt, gonna try the whole turn and forward motion today and see what happens.
While this is very helpful along with teaching to move away from the rein and leg pressure, I like to teach the spin on the ground. I also like to have a familiar verbal command to use while teaching it. I find it helps it translate easier.
Hello very nice! this is how you teach your horse how to move when someone is by the rear end, i taught my horse this because i have a little sister who is blind. so you will need a halter and rope. 1. look and the horses rear end and kiss at him. 2. if not wave your hand in a circle. if he moves reward him. 3. name it. i named it spin and he does it automatically.
This was great, I been tryin to find out about "wade black horse training" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Ever heard of - Menailey Vonaliyah Formula - (do a google search ) ? Ive heard some unbelievable things about it and my cousin got great results with it.
Can you put a series of videos up of a horse litterally from start to decent. IE: from the moment you sit on it for the first time to teaching it ALL the basics. You say you're demonstrating of "green" horses, but show us how you start of from scratch. From a horse that doesn't know ANYTHING to achieving a proper spin... :) please??
Oh my gosh!! So helpful!! My horse actually spins instead of pushing his rear out!! You are awesome!!
Just want to show my appreciation for your training videos, they're true and honest and very impressive! Thank you!
When I watched this I laughed, not at Larry, at how simple he made this, for years, I’ve struggled, I’ve paid for reining clinics, worked with different trainers, I could not get my Sorrel horse to spin correctly, all my other horses spin and they do great, my sorrel horse and I went down a path that complicated everything. I’ve been “rewatching” (I suggest rewatching”) this video the last two days and applying this to my sorrel horse. She is finally reaching over to cross and she has a pivot foot. I couldn’t be more happy. I just can’t believe this was free. Thank you, Larry what you doing for people is so beautiful.
Hi Nina, You are welcome. I'm glad this info has worked well for you but there is even more on my website.
Dam that is one nice horse... Great videos Larry, thank you for putting this out there.
+April Reeves Thanks April. I'm happy to do it.
Having huge issues with my colt pivoting on wrong foot and couldn't figure out how to get him to change - the video helped immensely and hopefully pushing him out of it at trot/lope will improve this - Thanks Larry, really appreciate it and also the rider critique video showing me EXACTLY what I am doing wrong! Laura
These 3 videos helped me out immensely! As someone who is new to reining, i couldn't understand what i was doing wrong and getting such a horrible spin. Did everything in these videos and we're so much better because of it. Thank you do much for sharing!
You are welcome, Brooke. I'm glad the videos helped. Good luck.
Larry I have never seen someone explain something so easy to understand. Can't wait to get out and work on this with my mare.
I bought a trotter for 1 year ago. Now I'm retraining him to western. I want him to be a nice reining horse, although he also used a little to the trail. Only to the hobby.
Your videos really helps a lot! He moves the front end, but he is not quite moving 90 degrees and even though I hold and then release a couple of times he still moves his back end around.
-Silje (From Norway)
thank you so much for this video! i bought my own horse and i pay for everything for her and i cant always afford lessons. this video was extremly helpful for me! i cant wait to get out there and work with her =]
Glad you like him LMH.
I liked him too.
When I got him finished in the bridle, I won a couple year-end championships on him in the open division.
His owner won a year-end championship in the non-pro division as well.
Larry T.
Larry you are a amassing teacher I applied your techniques to my horse , and oh my goodness it worked in a few minutes ,all she wanted to do was kick her butt out ,once I applied your technique she stoped I am so so ! Happy thanks a million 😁
Hi Alesha,
Yes, occasionally. No clinics are currently scheduled because I plan on moving my training stable over by Sacramento and I'm not sure when that will happen.
Larry
thank you im trying reining and im having a lot of fun these help a lot
Hi LaRana,
That is a John Israel, low, square port, mullen mouth with 8" shanks.
The horse in the video is green in this curb bit and you can see he's not comfortable with it yet.
Just a week earlier, he was still in a ring snaffle.
Larry
I think LMH was talking about you Larry. =)
The horse is good, but the trainer makes all the difference!
Very nice larry & keep them coming. :)
Have only recently found your videos - and love how you explain the methods you do! I thought I had a soft horse, untill I came across this and the next vid. My main aim now is suppleness and impulsion. So important. And so excited to put this into action. Just want to thank you for your wprk, and thank you for sharing what you know.
*Im from Australia, and Ive been training an ex race horse, and looking to going into Campdraft and Stockmans Challenges - I am so glad I came across your videos. I too was making the 'common mistakes' you mentioned!
Thanks Deanna and good luck to you.
Hi Larry, Merry Christmas this most difficult 2020. I hope you and yours are well and feeling all right.
I can't wait to try with this with my pleasure gelding. He has an old soft tissue damage injury to his left hock. Will that hinder him any? He has gotten really bad about going backwards with my lesson student and sometimes with me. I hpoe this will help him. I'm going to have to try it. Thank you for the information. Very clear and easy to understand.
@TheSpottedWalker , it's these exercises that make doing any kind of correct turn possible... including pivoting on the inside hind foot.
Larry T.
thanks Larry..
my horse hill billy allready knows how to neck rien and leg keys so i want to train him to spin. this helps allot! thanx!
You are welcome, FE.
Larry T.
Very good class ,thanks for uploading !
@foiran Thank you. I really liked him. He was green when this video was shot but he developed into a good show horse, winning several year-end championships in reining and working cow horse.
Larry T.
Hi CowGirl,
Driving out at the trot works best.
I'll have part 2 up on my website soon so you can take the next step.
Larry Trocha
@ValtronW no, spinning does not require 'special shoes' but reining horses wear slide plates on their back feet so that they can slide in their stops. slide plates are extra wide shoes that go on their back feet and are perfectly smooth. as far as spinning goes, any horse can learn how if trained properly with or without shoes.
Larry -
I absolutely love the way you describe your training steps. Very helpful. I'm working with a mare that definitely lacks impulsion, and pops her hip out constantly. I've been working about a week on the "turn and drive" - do you find it more useful to drive out at a walk, trot, or lope (or does it matter as long as they're moving forward?) Thanks, and keep up the awesome work!
this is perfect...thanks a lot im gonna try this on my horse tomorrow...
Hi Kelsey,
You need to watch part 2 and part 3 here on youtube.
You gotta teach your horse to move away from rein and leg pressure or she'll never learn how to spin.
So many people simply go through the motions and never get a response to the leg or rein.
Consequently, they never advance.
Larry T
this is goin to help me alot im learning reining! THANKS!
Stay tuned cattlerancher.
The best is yet to come.
Ya I tried it. IT WORKS WELL! I'M SO HAPPY!
thanks
Thanks Larry your videos are absolutely helpful to me and every trainer. The thing is that I'm training a horse the basics, but it's charro reining which mexican bits and reining. Is it good to teach my horse the american reining style?? thank you so much////
@MegaFeeds You have a very good chance if your horse has the aptitude for reining. Just about any breed of horse can rein but some individuals of that breed will be more suited for it than others. On the other side of that coin, there are plenty of Quarter Horses that don't have the aptitude for reining.
Larry T.
thanks for these. I'm very rusty with legs right now and trying to get that connection back, and for the life of me, couldnt seem to figure out the proper way to ask for the spin... since I was apprently doing it wrong. Will be taking these tips to the barn tomorrow.
Thank you
@XxRisingVelocityxX, Reading your comment reminds me of that old analogy, "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink".
Larry T.
Cool! It helps alot!
I love how you broke this down so that it was easy to follow. I will be trying this with my 4 year old. Where are you located? Do you offer clinics? Thanks!
That really helps, thanks so much!! i'm in Québec !
hello bring on part 2m i have a problem with my right side spin my 3 year old, is locking front legs, and ive been using the rein, release,rein,release!! Also i been working her in a snaffle ring bit, and just introduced her in a bob avila short shank dog bone 3 piece snaffle bit with copper roller!! bring on some more exciercsies??
Larry, can I ask a quest on your "rein-release"? I think I was trying to release with my fingers on "rein-release" instead of what I think your doing which is moving the reins BACK to their original place on the "release" but maybe its both. Always working to get "better-hands"
I'm at the very beginning stages of your Rollback& spins video trying to get my horse doing the very fundamental excersizes shown in your Rollbacks & Spins tape.
What a sweet horse, everything about it. I wonder which bloodlines are in it.
Very nice. Thanks for sharing. :)
You are very welcome WildBill.
love watching these videos, my mare knows her leg pressures and is soft in the mouth, she's just so frustrating to work with because she is very "mareish", any ideas as to how I can get her attention instead of her being so focused on everything/everyone else?
@laurahmartin Glad I could help, Laura. Good luck.
Larry T.
In reining you go to the curb bit for more precise, one-handed control (important in the show arena). That bit actually has a very mild, mullen mouthpiece. The horse just isn't used to the shanks and leverage yet.
Yes, your horse could easily learn to spin.
However, teaching the plant-the-pivot-foot spin will mess up a correct pirouette.
Thanks so much!! Super helpful!!
@noodle0912 it is the bit really... if you are the kind of person that barrel races or does speed events i would use a snaffle; but if you rein, do cutting, or western pleasure you can use the more collective bit and they will respond better with quiet hands and lose reins. ;)
thats a damnd fine horse
This will be so challenging to tech my morab.
Hi Larry,
I have been trying to teach my horse to spin, but he doesn't seem to get what I want. He knows how to turn on the forehand at a relatively steady/quick pace. Whenever I try to get him to move his front end, he just does his turn on the forehand. Any suggestions?
I will also teach my trotter that when I move my legs a certain way he will canter. But he keeps trotting very fast before he starts to lope. Do you have a video that can help?
-Silje (From Norway)
Hi Lary,
my horse has done level 1 in parelli natrual horsemanship and he will spin his front end away from me on the ground but he wont do it when im on him if u could give me some tips on how to get him to do it when im on him that would be great.
Jessica
Larry, I worked on this for the first day with my 4 year old standardbred mare. We've been working on neck reining so she is still fairly new to it, but she is becoming more supple and willing to turn. When I use a rein/release fashion and begin getting her to turn, we just stay in bigger circles and never bring it down small enough to actually spin. Should I work on the turn and go more, or is there another step I can take?
Thanks.
More are on the way.
Does spinning require special shoes?
I am curious, what kind of bit are you using, and would you use your hands differently (in what you demonstrated last) if you were using a different bit?
What kind of bridle do you use....where could I get one
Cool
What is a good age to start trainging your horse to reign? What is the latest age you can start training?
what do you do if the horse keeps moving forward and won't move back off his forehand?
Man i am really wanting to teach my horse to spin but she cant even piviot. and when i try she just paws the ground. Can you help/
Genius =)
That's a great comment. I got a kick out of it =0)
Hi Larry,
my horse tends to walk out of the spin with out me asking. if I don't pull back with the reins and just use my outside leg, she turns and walks foreword out of the spin.
@noodle0912, your instructor may have a different technique for getting the job done.
There are many different ways of training a horse.
Larry T.
so my horse spins. she plants her out leg instead of her inside one...does it matter what leg they plant on?
@KnightHawke01 Yes, I'm using some leg pressure as well. And I explain more about it in the other spin videos.
Larry T.
my mare will yield her forequarters going to the right but when we try the left. she really locks up in the front and swings her butt, gonna try the whole turn and forward motion today and see what happens.
While this is very helpful along with teaching to move away from the rein and leg pressure, I like to teach the spin on the ground. I also like to have a familiar verbal command to use while teaching it. I find it helps it translate easier.
I feel like I just learned how to tie my shoes for the first time.
Hello very nice! this is how you teach your horse how to move when someone is by the rear end, i taught my horse this because i have a little sister who is blind. so you will need a halter and rope. 1. look and the horses rear end and kiss at him. 2. if not wave your hand in a circle. if he moves reward him. 3. name it. i named it spin and he does it automatically.
can you spin a horse in an english saddle?
Yes. ☺️
This was great, I been tryin to find out about "wade black horse training" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Ever heard of - Menailey Vonaliyah Formula - (do a google search ) ? Ive heard some unbelievable things about it and my cousin got great results with it.
@Waybueno If you watch "Part 3" of this video series, you'll learn exactly "WHY" your horse HOPS when spinning.
Larry T.
Be patient.
More are coming.
Can you put a series of videos up of a horse litterally from start to decent. IE: from the moment you sit on it for the first time to teaching it ALL the basics. You say you're demonstrating of "green" horses, but show us how you start of from scratch. From a horse that doesn't know ANYTHING to achieving a proper spin... :) please??
You look like a younger version of George Strait. Lol
that was good