I think they made the cable permanently attached so they can claim Waterproof and Weatherproof. BTW Sabrent has announced their Thunderbolt 5 drive and it has a removable cable. In the meanwhile I went with a ACASIS thunderbolt 4 NVME enclosure with a 2TB Sabrent NVME drive for half the price. I will wait until more drives hit the market and prices come down. Hoping for a Thunderbolt 5 NVME enclosure that I can reuse my current NVME SSDs which are more than fast enough to take advantage of the increased throughput of Thunderbolt 5.
Even on my rather low end/cheap 4TB ssd in a cheap Amazon Thunderbolt 4 case, I obtain 2.5-2.8GB/s transfer, and I have two of them plugged into my M4 max MB. They are running through a thunderbolt 4 docking station. I have found that though 2.5GB/s is well below the MB 1TB drive, it is still much better than the same drives on my older M1 Studio Ultra. I am very pleased, and will look forward to the Thunderbolt 5 standard maturing as my MB ages. Good video, thanks.
DIT/Data wrangling on movie sets is where I am seeing big needs now. While I am doing small shows, the guys doing big reality shows may be offloading north of 10-20TB per day. And yes, the speed REALLY matters.
Same situation here as I used the Lacie Rugged TB3 vs Samsung T7, sometimes the Lacie even slower than SS :(. Thus I would not might to buy all TB either. Just 3.2 is enough.
Is the nvme disk removable on the tB5 version of the envoy ? It is on the TB3 version. I can’t wait until the manufacturers release an empty TB5 enclosure, and adopt bring your own SSD! It looks the owc ssd has limited cache and when it runs out, the write speed slows down! I want an empty enclosure Like the ones from various manufacturers like acasis or owc express 1m2. Until then, I am not buying any TB5 drives.
On one hand since video editing is just reading files from the drive it might be close to the internal performance. From a transfer perspective however these are a bit disappointing. To be fair I don’t think k a lot of us plan on transferring a lot of data this way unless it’s to archive or transfer camera footage recorded to the external SSD. If camera footage is already on such a fast drive however there is very little point in doing that transfer unless one needs that drive right away for another shoot. I feel like the main point of a drive this fast is to read or write files from it directly. Even used in a camera it’s exceptionally overkill for current formats. Even recording external raw doesn’t need drives that fast to shoot with. So the transfer speed thing feels kind of like not a big deal I guess. I just don’t see myself realistically copying TB worth of data from internal to this drive in a regular basis. If one buys this it’s likely because they have a 256 or 512 GB Mac and they have no large files to actually transfer because it’s impossible to fit large files internally. Mac users could have seen this as an ultra fast backup solution to their larger storage Macs but again that feels kind of pointless to make that process faster. I just don’t see a lot of people copying over TBs of data on a regular basis from internal to external.
@@p.nandhukutty7331 It more than anything means that if the cable is damaged because it was turned too much in your bag or whatever, your very expensive drive with possibly important data is useless. A bit of bad luck and it doesn't take much for a cable to break.
@@p.nandhukutty7331 For me, it's not an advantage, but more of a nuisance, especially with all the wear and tear it could suffer with all the handling. I don't lose cables, especially expensive ones.
OWC has stated that the amount of warranty repairs for broken cables is far, far less than handling complaints by people using the wrong usb-c cable. Personally, I’d prefer a non-recessed socket and provide my own cables. Sabrent said they have a TB5 enclosure coming out soon and their TB5 SSD is also a bring your own cable.
the fact that the cable is a part of the drive means once the cable breaks, the drive is done too. They should have made the cable detachable.
Nice work, Jerry. You showed us it’s the cache size that makes the difference in sustained transfer of large files.
I think they made the cable permanently attached so they can claim Waterproof and Weatherproof. BTW Sabrent has announced their Thunderbolt 5 drive and it has a removable cable. In the meanwhile I went with a ACASIS thunderbolt 4 NVME enclosure with a 2TB Sabrent NVME drive for half the price. I will wait until more drives hit the market and prices come down. Hoping for a Thunderbolt 5 NVME enclosure that I can reuse my current NVME SSDs which are more than fast enough to take advantage of the increased throughput of Thunderbolt 5.
that's what I want, too.
Even on my rather low end/cheap 4TB ssd in a cheap Amazon Thunderbolt 4 case, I obtain 2.5-2.8GB/s transfer, and I have two of them plugged into my M4 max MB. They are running through a thunderbolt 4 docking station. I have found that though 2.5GB/s is well below the MB 1TB drive, it is still much better than the same drives on my older M1 Studio Ultra.
I am very pleased, and will look forward to the Thunderbolt 5 standard maturing as my MB ages.
Good video, thanks.
DIT/Data wrangling on movie sets is where I am seeing big needs now. While I am doing small shows, the guys doing big reality shows may be offloading north of 10-20TB per day. And yes, the speed REALLY matters.
nice bro love your efforts
Same situation here as I used the Lacie Rugged TB3 vs Samsung T7, sometimes the Lacie even slower than SS :(. Thus I would not might to buy all TB either. Just 3.2 is enough.
There’s also Sabrent.
Awesome thanks.
Is the nvme disk removable on the tB5 version of the envoy ? It is on the TB3 version.
I can’t wait until the manufacturers release an empty TB5 enclosure, and adopt bring your own SSD! It looks the owc ssd has limited cache and when it runs out, the write speed slows down!
I want an empty enclosure Like the ones from various manufacturers like acasis or owc express 1m2. Until then, I am not buying any TB5 drives.
The cache is too small. Waiting for NVME TB5 enclosure.
How big should it be?
Cache is King 😉
On one hand since video editing is just reading files from the drive it might be close to the internal performance.
From a transfer perspective however these are a bit disappointing. To be fair I don’t think k a lot of us plan on transferring a lot of data this way unless it’s to archive or transfer camera footage recorded to the external SSD. If camera footage is already on such a fast drive however there is very little point in doing that transfer unless one needs that drive right away for another shoot.
I feel like the main point of a drive this fast is to read or write files from it directly. Even used in a camera it’s exceptionally overkill for current formats. Even recording external raw doesn’t need drives that fast to shoot with.
So the transfer speed thing feels kind of like not a big deal I guess. I just don’t see myself realistically copying TB worth of data from internal to this drive in a regular basis. If one buys this it’s likely because they have a 256 or 512 GB Mac and they have no large files to actually transfer because it’s impossible to fit large files internally.
Mac users could have seen this as an ultra fast backup solution to their larger storage Macs but again that feels kind of pointless to make that process faster.
I just don’t see a lot of people copying over TBs of data on a regular basis from internal to external.
Don't like the fact that the cable is permanently attached. Will pass on this one.
But isn't that an advantage that you won't lose the cable right...???
@@p.nandhukutty7331 It more than anything means that if the cable is damaged because it was turned too much in your bag or whatever, your very expensive drive with possibly important data is useless. A bit of bad luck and it doesn't take much for a cable to break.
@@p.nandhukutty7331 For me, it's not an advantage, but more of a nuisance, especially with all the wear and tear it could suffer with all the handling. I don't lose cables, especially expensive ones.
OWC has stated that the amount of warranty repairs for broken cables is far, far less than handling complaints by people using the wrong usb-c cable.
Personally, I’d prefer a non-recessed socket and provide my own cables. Sabrent said they have a TB5 enclosure coming out soon and their TB5 SSD is also a bring your own cable.
@@KoenKooi this, x100.