I'm starting to see that most people don't understand lots of political tactics. They just assume everything is on the up and up as long as it comes from their side.
@@joshuajames6481 Even then they may not know the difference between say establishment conservatives and paleoconservatives, alt-right and alt-lite, and so on.
Had a Texas public education. My econ class was literally just "capitalism perfect and flawless, socialism bad" with no real depth. Absolute waste of a class.
My Econ teacher showed us a graph of wages over time and said “LOOK! WAGES HAVE GONE UP OVER TIME UNDER CAPITALISM! MARX WAS WRONG!!1!1!!!” I looked up the graph and it goes up because it doesn’t account for the devaluation of the American dollar lmao
"How many democratically-elected Central and South American governments does the CIA have to overthrow for you to understand that socialism doesn't work?" - Charlie Kirk
@@wheresthatasteroid5589 I forgot exactly what they were doing, but it was the equivalent of talking while the teacher is talking or making weird noises in class. So honestly how Vaush responded was justified, but it was at the worst possible time lol.
Yeah when I was over Japan in the 1990s they didn't teach about the things they did in World War II. The bad things the horrible things they did in the Philippines and Korea China Vietnam Indonesia. Instead they focused on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And a lot of these nationalists and weeaboos cosign this behavior.
sunfeatherX3 the nukes were the alternative to a full scale invasion of Japan on the U.S’s part, so I’m ok with them because of our not being educated enough on the effects of radiation
@@sunfeatherX3 Yeah but they hide the fact that Japan murdered millions of chinese people in WWII. Japanese text books also lie about 'comfort women' in Korea (young girls forced into being prostitutes). Basically OP is saying that Japan censors their public from their own history, and they need to be honest about it. The US has a similar problem with our history books when it comes to the Cold War or the Indigenous people of America.
Not if everyone does it. It’s sort of a game theoretical dilemma where the employers only benefit if everyone does it but if only they do it they lose money and have to raise prices to make up for it.
Rule #1 of propaganda is that you don’t ever call your propaganda what it is. Other states/companies/organizations do propaganda, we do “public relations” and “advertising”
The term "public relations" is an American invention. "Propanganda" is a term that was first used by the Catholic church. It meant spreading the faith and was not seen as negative. The modern meaning is a product of 20th century ideological conflict.
@amen ra What's funny is 3rd world was originally meant to describe countries that didn't pick a side in the cold war. And even in the usual usage sense calling the Soviets a third world shithole is a stretch. We can hate and despise a country's government for its oppression without lying about its economic and industrial strength
@amen ra depends on the exact context. Do I want to go through the process, save money and immigrate to Vietnam or China? No. They don’t want a gringo and I don’t have the money to do it. Would I rather have been born there? Yes. Being poor sucks that much. You should try it some time. Also, China I’d get to live in an ascendant power. So...you know, that dopamine fix and all. Kind of a bad example tbh.
@amen ra dude I've been to Vietnam. I don't know what bombed out District 13 ass shit hole you think it is but I guarantee you if given the choice to pick my birthplace I'd pick Vietnam over Detroit or Flint ANY day.
and “robert e lee was just really loyal to his state and family” despite fighting to own his fathers slaves and five out of his six fellow virginian generals fighting for the union...
Old southern? That shit was taught in the 90s in San Diego. I mean, Southern California. I didn't know how shit my education was until I read the book, "lies my teacher taught me." I realize I am old in comparison to zoomers, but this wasn't that long ago.
Old? I'm still in high school in the south and we were taught about how the civil war was over states rights and how slaves "willingly" fought for the Confederacy. It's still there.
Ah yes that age old capitalist talking point “SHARING IS CARING=SOCIALISM” which definitely doesn’t make those capitalists look like wild-eyed doomsday preppers.
Yeah, the Rainbow Fish earned all his scales fair and square and worked hard for it (by being born). But socialist Leftist cancel culture forced him to distribute his wealth to all those other loser fishes.
Fuck yeah, socialism is a great thing to indoctrinate you into. Also LMFAO public school teacher saying that. Imagine getting your money from the state and crying about socialism. Oh noeeee
My favorite quote from my intro to politics, economics, and philosophy professor said was "If you want to understand a country's morals ans ethics, look at their tax code" This class we learned about 5 economic systems ranging from free market capitalism to Soviet style communism. He said economics tries to appear like a hard, data driven science similar to chemistry or biology. When in reality is is a social science. It is much less black and white than people paint it out to be. We talked about prominent writers from that spectrum of economic systems and how even Friedman and Hayke based thier economic ideas along the lines of moral and ethical frame work. They and people like Rand prescribe behavior to people (Like selfishness for Rand or knowing to act in your best interest for Hayke and Friedman) which has nothing to do with economic theory and everything to do with reality. We know humans don't behave that way, we knew this because psychology an sociology had a lot of data ok human behavior while Friedman was still alive and he still continued to push his ideas anyway and people still push today even though there is even more data that proves their beliefs on human behavior are wrong.
My younger brother does an online, private, Christian homeschooling course. He had U.S. history last year and civics this year. Due to COVID I was home for a good portion of both years. Pretty early on, I talked with my mother about the subtle propaganda in the curriculum. In our first conversation, she said she didn’t really notice any. After that, though, she saw a lot more of it. I helped him with a few assignments and it was amazing how much propaganda was in the curriculum. A lot of it was pretty obvious if you have just over a basic knowledge of history, but some other things were pretty subtle. Be careful out there.
i also did a christian homeschooling course in HS. your comment reminded me of the american history "textbook" we had to read... it was called "A Patriot's History of the United States" and it is exactly what it sounds like.
@@canoewithmeat The one I remember most was the way they framed 9/11. It was about what you’d expect (love of freedom vs. hatred of freedom, that kind of stuff). But, to speak to what you might be looking for, there was also a lot of Judeo-Christian vs. Islamic stuff. I also remember them drawing a through line from Moses and the Ten Commandments to the Constitution and Bill of Rights. I’d love to give more details, but a lot of this stuff is going several months.
@@MrHistory269 Contextualize misleading claims and dispel outright falsehoods. For the 9/11 thing, we watched the movie Vice a few days later, so that helped clear things up (at least a little).
I guess everyone in America has a different High School experience. In HS, I mostly learned things like how many grams there are in an eighth, how many eighths there is in an ounce, how many ounces there are in a pound, how much a gram of different drugs cost, how to roll blunts, how to crush & snort Adderall, and also how to clear my absences on the school attendance roll. All of the things I now know about American history, Science, Biology, etc I learned on my own after I graduated High School.
Or how late you could be before a tardy becomes an absence and the valuable tool of negotiating a failing grade into something that allows you to narrowly squeak by with something just good enough to pass.
@@bray_1617 I mostly had uninterested teachers. I grew up in a poor small town in the Central Valley of California. For example, my Senior year Econ teacher didn't grade a single test or even look your homework. I would literally call him a moron in my assignments and he didn't once notice. I got an A in his class and I hardly was ever there. They once even put a pink dildo on his desk and it stayed there all day.
@@melodyariel7896 We would have random lockdown drills where all the classroom doors would be locked and closed exactly at 8:00am. If you're late, you would get a long ass lecture about how important it is it arrive to class on time. The irony of keeping you hostage for two hours in the cafeteria while you fall behind on that day's classwork to explain to you just how important it is to arrive to class on time was just too much. LOL
Rolling a B just while reading this lmao. Also p much same. It made me realize how much learning is an attitude more than an activity, and that we don't do enough to motivate our students to learn
I'm a history teacher at a school where we're fortunate enough to have hired a lot of solid people for our department, but yes, in waaaaaay too many schools history is the place they dump coaches who have no subject area expertise because they figure "just make them memorize some stuff and take a test on it".
dude- my "history teacher" spewed his unwanted (and fairly racist) ideas on to 12 year olds💀 once he said "blm just wants chaos. the civil rights movement also wanted chaos"
Or all of mine, for that matter. Every money-related or social studies teacher I’ve had in high school has also been a coach. One of them flat-out admitted to me that they don’t know what the hell is going on.
The Japanese actually killed more civilians in WWII than the Nazis did according to some estimates It makes sense if you remember that Japan had been fighting China since 1931. Hitler wasn’t in power until 1933, and the first death camps didn’t open until 1940 or 1941 if I remember correctly. The Japanese killed millions and millions of civilians during WWII
That’s actually not true, the Nazis killed 6 millions Jews plus 11 million people. So the Nazis killed 17 million people which is still more than the 8-12 million people killed by Imperial Japan.
@@86thrasher And while it is a bit like splitting hairs due to monstrosity talked about when it comes to intent of each group of fascists, the Nazis ideological goal was always total extermination of multiple ethnic groups (and in theory, neverending series of genocides because there is no point where their race war could end). Imperial Japan "only" wanted to enslave themselves a vast colonial empire of forced labor camps and erase subjugated cultures.
arskakarva Yes, the Nazis didn’t just target Jews they targeted other groups they viewed as “sub-human” such as ethnic Slavs. 8 million out of the 17 million people that were murdered in the Holocaust were actually Soviets, 5 million were civilians, 1.5 million were Jews who were apart of the 6 million killed and 3 million were Soviet POWs 50,000 were Jews. The reason why non-Jewish Soviets were targeted was not only because they were communists it was also because they were ethnic Slavs. Nazis also hated any group that wasn’t white, they wanted the idea of a global aryan race. What annoys me is when I see comments in the section of a WW2 video that covers Imperial Japan’s atrocities I always see “The Japanese made the Nazis look like nuns!” While it is true that what the Japanese army did was beyond atrocious that is debatable. For one, it is true that Western POWs were treated worse by the Japanese but the Germans murdered around 3 million Soviet POWs which was actually way more than the POWs killed by the Japanese. The Whermacht also perpetrated plenty of mass rape and ruthless murder out on the Eastern Front.
@@86thrasher A good example I feel in elaborating on just how much devastation and suffering the Nazi warmachine caused is Belarus. At minimum one in four Belarusians died because of the German invasion, and it may be well over a half of them did. And this was all by intent, the Nazis goal was always a campaign of genocide in the East (itself developing out of the Prussian militarist ambition of colonizing and enslaving the East). It's this ideology of millenarian racial holy war that sets Nazis on their own unique level of evil even among fascists. And a stern reminder why fascism must be opposed, there is no telling if a group even worse than the Nazis could seize power in a country with the capacity for war and genocide comparable to Germany in 1930's; modern day American neo-nazis could literally end the world. The thing is that the internal logic of Nazi ideology would mean that they would never run out of groups to exterminate. There would never be a point in which their absolute racial purity would be reached. They'd murder all the Slavs and Jews first, but there'd always be a next group that was not pure enough, always someone who is too degenerate after all.
God I remember back in US history there would always be this bit whenever they introduce a new founding father and it would be like a paragraph going over their strapping physical appearance and moral character. "Jeffersons fire-y red hair" springs to mind. Like I need to learn their policy positions and historical impact not the worlds driest Tinder bio
I recently started reading a book specifically about how propagandistic American History textbooks are, called "Lies My Teacher Told Me" by James Loewen. It was praised by Howard Zinn, would recommend.
"What is Progressivism?" its literally the idea that we can make stuff better than it is currently by listening to the people who say it's not going so great.
In Vietnamese high school we did not really teach about how we conquered half of what is Vietnam today. Basically in high school history book they used the word "explore" to described the process of the Vienamese Kingdom at the time conquering the Southern part of Vietnam. Not only until when I got hold of an old history book that I learnt it was a bloody war of expansion, and we pretty much massacred entire populations to conquer the land.
@@teteteteta2548 Nationalism I guess. The Vietnamese Communist party is nationalist & capitalist as f*ck. Lately they have even started to promote some mythical stuff about the origin of the Vietnamese people. Criticising your country is a big no-no in Vietnam.
Some white, western Tankie with an anime pfp showing up to tell you how wrong you are about your own country and how it's a perfectly communist paradise and and how Ho Chi Minh never harmed a single hair upon a Vietnamese head in T - 5, 4, 3, 2...
@@DUNGSI27 yeah kinda agree with you about the nationalist and capitalist stuff, but where did you get the idea that the government is promoting that mythical shit about our origins ? I always thought of that as just common folklore tbh
@@thinhdo8679 Yes it was common folklore but I noticed they started making a big deal out of it several years ago (especially with the "Gio to Hung Vuong" holiday and all). A big part of that, I think, has to do with them trying to stir up a patriotic/nationalist sentiment as a response to Chinese aggression.
I had Economics in highschool and my teacher basically answered every question anyone had anytime someone questioned Capitalism he's just say, "well theres Supply, and then theres Demand-"
Considering I was educated in a good public school in Connecticut, I'm kinda lucky I didn't learn only about stuff convenient to the state. I learned about the Japanese internment camps, Korematsu v. United States, the killing of Emmett Till, various Civil Rights Movement killings, and we had to wrap up the year with New Conservatism in the 80s and analyze it through a neutral, analytical lens. I even learned about the Trail of Tears, the Espionage and Sedition Acts, the Maine explosion, and even the Gilded Age and tenements. And this was just my US History curriculum during my sophomore year. My freshman Modern World History curriculum was also very critical of the US, especially during the Cold War section of the curriculum.
We were literally shown the 2012 red dawn remake at my charter school to learn about defending america. My superintendent told us america didnt know about pol pot until journalists found it on accident. Schools are generally made to serve the interests of the state, luckily teachers tend to be left leaning
A perfect example of historical whitewashing I recently overcame was learning about the US-Panama relationship with the podcast Behind the Bastards. All I learned in school was that Teddy Roosevelt wanted a canal built. I never knew about the imperialist bullshit we put that country through
American exceptionalism and manufactured consent huh, sounds like the same traps I fell into before some of my dear friends were kind enough to pull me out. I live in a conservative family (step dad and mom), I used to parrot their talking points and call myself a centrist. Whew, those were not the days. I'm a huuuuge leftie now thanks to my biological dad and some close friends of mine.
I had to take high school econ and while a good amount of it definitely felt slanted towards propoganda regarding capitalism, I was really pleased to find that there was a whole section on Marx in the 'influential figures' section which didn't say anything negative about Communism and actually outlined it as being practical and rational just the same as the sections on Capitalist thought leaders.
I literally always had this feeling when going to school; that much of what I was exposed to in terms of learning and socialization was a little bit suspect or incomplete to differing degrees in regards to the totality of explanation.
I went to school in Texas and the highschool government class I went to did not do any of that and the teacher mentioned all sorts of corruption in the government including iron triangles, gerrymandering, and the obvious corruption that is the Super PAC backdoor. I'm curious, were you in a public highschool or a private religious institute and what year did you encounter that misinformation?
The real comrades will remember this video when it was called “Vaush tears economic textbook” I don’t remember what the video was originally called, I am not a true comrade.
In Dallas proper we have one school district so that the rich people fund the schools in the poorer areas as well. It’s difficult to manage but is slowly getting better, COVID not withstanding. There are some places like the park cities which are Dallas suburbs completely surrounded by Dallas proper and they tend to be wealthier as well, but pay into their own school district. Along with Plano ISD.
As a history nerd from Texas, it always bothered me that WWII Lessons were just to say Haulocaust bad, and oddly in all of my high school history classes we never ever talked about the Cold War or anything beyond that (except 9/11)
Honestly the one thing I actually really like about my country is that schools aren’t afraid to educate us on our horrible history at all. Like, in 5th grade we watched a movie called the book thief which was about a girl who lost her family in a “train accident” being adopted by a German couple and then living in Germany during the time of the Nazi regime shortly before ww2. It’s a really good movie especially because it really shows you the horrors of it all without being too graphic for children to watch and still being a story that people especially kids can relate to. We had the topic in German class, history class and even a bit in English class. We also watched a movie in 7th grade in cinema on its premiere day. The second film was a documentary retelling the oppression of Jews from the perspective of holocaust survivors being interviewed. This movie was a lot more graphic, showing pictures of corpses stacked on top of each other in concentration camps and so on. We still come back to the topic every once in a while and a huge chunk of the curriculum in the last few years of school in history class is taken up by analyzing propaganda and texts from back then and debunking the nazi ideology. I think how Germany teaches its people about its history is pretty great overall but I just wish there’d also be more of a focus on other issues like racism and homophobia since that is barely discussed outside of religion class. Thanks for reading! Btw please tell me if I messed some grammar up or something, I’m still learning English.
I’d say this was more about recognizing indoctrination and propaganda from the state rather than examining a US high school Econ textbook but that might just be me
A long time ago, American leaders realized that explicit hardline ideology is easy to see and this easy to combat. These same thought leaders also realized that soft power, soft implication, and subtle levels of indoctrination at an early age is very VERY difficult to combat or eliminate en mass
Yeah my great-uncle was a Montford Point Marine and he fought in the Battle of Peleliu and Okinawa. And he told me on Peleliu they hardly took any Japanese prisoners.
this reminds me of the time in my econ class in highschool where we had an assignment that imo was explicitly demonstrating the failings of other economic systems compared to a capitalist one. A few years later I emailed my econ teacher and I'll just leave this quote here "The state would prefer I teach Socialism as a big scary thing and that Venezuela is a prime example of Socialism. The TEKS also requires we teach the economic philosophies of Hayek, Friedman yet omits Marx. I think it's good to add Hayek and Friedman to the mix when Keynes dominates economic education until you get to the graduate level, but omitting Marx is not acceptable."
In Arizona sex ed we talked about STDs, but we didn't talk about HIV. I brought it up specifically and the teacher basically said "yes, that is a disease". I only later learned talking about HIV is not allowed in AZ sex ed curriculum.
as an Econ major, what I was taught in econ 101 is a very simple approach to the world problems and it is bad. Many research that has done in the Econ field has been pretty contradictory from a typical intro to Econ class
I had econ 101 in high school. (class of '14) Not an AP thing for my school. It was a general requirement. But it was essentially supply and demand graphs.
The closest thing I had to a left wing teacher was my world history teacher. My AP Pol Sci was a lib, believed in the bernie bros thing, thought Klobuchar and Hillary were amazing, also class was filled with very narcissistic Hillary stans. Talking all the time about socialist Venezuela and "CRAZY BERNIE". My friend ended up having a physics teacher who was an ancap and climate change denier who would debate my anarcho communist friend daily lol.
They may be autistic and disconnected from human emotion, not tagging on neurodivergent people here. Also they may be uneducated about reality outside of their basement.
My college Econ 101 book was basically 250 pages talking about how Milton Friedman was the second coming of Christ and that the New Deal ruined the American economy.
Really weird going back to look at it after changing my opinions on those topics lol 😅. It'd be cool to see someone on breadtube looking at it, bc I'm curious of the policies in it and their costs are accurate
its crazy to think that most US citizens never learned about the military coups and dictatorships that america funded in south america during the cold war. Like how are you NOT hearing about this???
"how is this functionally different?" Well effectiveness for one, anyone with half a sense of rhetoric or argumentative skills knows that its a milion times as effective to make someone believe their opinions are the result of their own logic than to just force something on them.
I went to a pretty decent high school, and I remember I was taught during the final weeks of econ, we ended with diving into economic theory. The year after I graduated, they had actually finally added AP General Econ, and AP Macroeconomics and AP Microeconomics.
I had a high school economics class which I don't remember shit from except how the text book used anime as an example of some sort of economic principal. I wish I still had the picture saved to my phone
The problem with education in America isn’t mainly that the curriculum is decentralized, it’s absolutely because the methods of FUNDING are decentralized, in other words they are highly dependent on local sources of funding. Whereas in most other countries funds are distributed on a federal level which tends to equalize disparities in educational outcomes.
my high school econ class was ASAD Charts, Supply and demand, Oppurtunity cost, Tradeoff, and basic business structure. It definitely helped indoctrinate me as I called myself economically conservative and socially liberal at the time. Oh yeah and the class was only available Sophomore and Junior year
@@stavrostziounis4756 i swear man. People think that understanding econ is indocrination but what did karl marx literallt spend 40 years trying to do? Understand capitalist economics. If you dont understand it how can you change it
I went to a pretty good public school outside of Pittsburgh, we had a fairly good history/political science curriculum. Econ was offered in 12th grade (either 1 semester of Econ/Honors Econ or 2 semesters of AP Econ). I took honors Econ as an elective and the teacher I had was just spewing capitalist propaganda. He started saying the American Revolution was fought over high taxes and used that to justify lower top marginal tax rates, despite colonial taxes being extremely low. I can’t imagine too many other people are getting a good economics education if that’s the experience I had.
yeah this continues in college, im being forced to take an entrepreneurship class for my major and its content is such a joke and clearly just trying to plant the idea that entrepreneurs r gods
I got no sex ed. I didn't learn about the native american massacres in utah. And i was taught a propagandist song. Utah with it's mountains and valleys Utah what a great place to be Its the land that we love this is the place Utah! Utah! Utah! This is the place! I made my teacher aware of how I knew it was bullshit.
@Ben Shapiro Good then that native american genocide wasnt a single event, but tied to american expansion to west, manifest destiny and done to multitude of "tribes" Seeing the "uncivilized" people as lesser lead to the remaining reservations of ingenious people today, on land that wasnt valuable enough to take. Its not irrelevant to USA as it is how USA got the vast "empty" and resource rich lands it has today
I don't think people REALLY understand how bad "private school" educations can be, ESPECIALLY when they're religious. Until I went to high school somewhere else, we had never gotten basic sexual education (or anything on the subject for that matter) because they thought it was a dirty subject and a sin. Their logic was "why would we teach you about it if you just abstain from sex until marriage?". Before I came out, the only mention about LGBTQ+ that I had from them was one of those sit-down talks about how bad it was and how we should try to convert whoever came out. I remember them showing us a video of turkey and how they had people over loudspeakers calling to their "false gods" and told us to feel bad for them because they were "confused". Not to mention how right-winged bias was literally everywhere in the curriculum. They also get away with not following mask mandates because they don't fall under the jurisdiction for some reason. All of this is just the tip of the iceberg, I have so many other stories like this.
You should really should reach out and bring on Arindrajit Dube. I’m pretty sure an Econ professor like him would be willing to address how we could do a lot of “lefty” policies in an economically feasible way.
Based on the fact that Vaush has had a lot of “preaching to the choir” people who explain unions, suing the government, I think this will be just as useful
Another reason direct is bad, is because it turns the students who disagree or are skeptical into the OTHER. Imagine a kid in history class who isn't agreeing, all the other students wonder what is wrong with them. It makes conformity an intense pressure. In order to survive you need to keep your head down and agree.
Taking micro Econ in college and the same thing that the USSR was communist and it failed because communism controls the economy too much. It totally ignored that though the country work towards communism that it was never communist itself and that there are many kinds of socialism/communism just like different kinds of capitalism that the book did mention.
This is why counter-propaganda should be part of English literature. Honestly, those dusty old books need to stay on the shelf. Counter-propaganda is so much more enjoyable and engaging. My hs English literature teacher used it extensively to teach us about rhetorical devices as a subcategory of literary devices. Actually, I think it can be incorporated into just about every single subject. Honestly, what is a class in statistics without defining stochastic fallacies?
My economics teacher fanboyed Reagan quite obviously, but I still learned enough to apply ideas to a more left leaning economic organization. It was in Texas.
I took AP Econ (graduation requirement at my school) and yeah it’s mostly supply/demand curves. Not super indoctrinating but my teacher was critical of capitalism and really spoke highly of Marx. She was also the AP European History teacher. One of the coolest ladies I’ve ever met
I learned about slavery and racism in high school here in Texas in fact to drive home how fucked up things were in the south that they showed us old photos of lynchings in the south and how people were so sadistically happy about it and those photos that I saw shaped the amount of disgust I see towards people trying to act that racism never happened
It's really dependant on state/school district. I graduated 4 years ago in May, and we had a semester personal finance course that barely covered how to do taxes, pay bills, and showed us how to apply for jobs via paper applications/job fairs. (Not useful since most shit is online now.) The other semester of that year was Health/Sex ed, and was also kind of lacking. We had AP Government classes, but never anything specific on economics.
I grew up in Louisiana. My high school did teach about the bad things America has done, such as Japanese Internment Camps, Slavery, how badly and consistently we screwed over the Natives, the evil stuff Train/Oil Barons of the 19th Century did, etc etc. However, the actual information about these events was not conveyed well because the Teachers themselves did not care about teaching these subjects, and usually just hand waved or zoom right through it so they can talk about how cool the Spartans were or something. Teachers, please try to convey all history with the same amount of respect as you'd give history you personally care about. Yes, the Spartans were cool, but some things are a little more important than that- Also one of my teachers was a legit conspiracy theorist who tried teaching Anti-Vaxx lessons in class lol. I tried reporting him, but I never received an email back. This was a case of the curriculum being fine, but the actual management/teachers being dogshit.
His comments about Texas public education being terrible is totally accurate. When I was in junior high/high school in TX, I remember being distinctly taught that the civil war wasn’t fought over slavery and that trickle down economics actually trickled down wealth
I was blessed because despite being born in small town Indiana, I went to a hippie socialist charter school so I got a better education than many of my peers.
I only learned about the japanese internment camps is because our history teacher absolutely thought it was important for us to learn about them because our towns fairgrounds was used as one of the camps. Our teacher said "if it wasn't here that it happened you may not even know about this subject because i am teaching you from my highschool experience not what the books tell us to teach you."
Was it the Puyallup Fairgrounds in Washington State? If so that's around my neck of the woods as well and my class first learned about Japanese internment back in 8th grade.
Bru Econ is a class that all seniors have to take at my class, it’s not just supply and demand but like learning how stocks work, financing a house, buying a house/car, how to pay taxes
my high school has the IB program and the online textbook we use has an embarrassing amount of propaganda. i just took notes on supply side policies and an extensive part of the lesson was unions being bad (with a of photo of dirty streets), reducing unemployment benefits, reducing or abolishing the minimum wage, etc. none of these things were framed as *maybe* kind of bad but were just presented like "yep, this will stimulate the labor supply!"
The propaganda is real! I have some Trump supporters in my family and they are doubling down on Dr. Seuss. They consistently regurgitate the same ole talking points... “Remind me when white history month is!” That’s just a small taste that I see daily. From Texas here...
My highschool had mandatory Econ class and our teacher was a based potato man. he taught us why supply side Econ was trash and why keysian Econ was based. Soc dem moment. He was kind of a dick but at least he wasn’t bias.
TBF I learnt most of economics and *actual implementation* through Sociology, not Economics Economics is basically ideology and "what people think" - Sociology will tell you *what actually worked* based on history - it's why I know Left-wing economic policy does indeed work better* than Right-wing *as a Liberal Utilitarian
Apparently America is the only country that tells their children that "Our Country is the best you shpuld be grateful you live here". I just assumed everywhere was like that but my friend from UK said thats weird af.
Vanish forgot to mention that the “progressivism” in the 1776 Commission was referring to the Progressive Era of the early 20th Century, not modern progressives. It says that having basic health and safety regulations are tyrannical. I’m so glad this never got into our classes and national parks.
My High School Econ class had a lot of indoctrination with us watching prager u and some documentary about the virtue of greed, but I also am from South Carolina.
Disliked, did not literally tear apart a high school Econ textbook.
Vaush posting misinformation once again
@@King-lr7dh These socialists can’t keep getting away with this blatant misinfo!
He keeps getting away with it!
Classic liberal debate tactics
He changed the title because of this comment.
I'm starting to see that most people don't understand lots of political tactics. They just assume everything is on the up and up as long as it comes from their side.
Based WrecklessEating!
The left understands the right less than the average trailer park conservative understands Islam.
its cause people generally grow up expecting a level of honesty that you dont generally find in political or social discourse.
@@nuclearcatbaby1131 unless they grew up in a conservative environment
@@joshuajames6481 Even then they may not know the difference between say establishment conservatives and paleoconservatives, alt-right and alt-lite, and so on.
Had a Texas public education. My econ class was literally just "capitalism perfect and flawless, socialism bad" with no real depth. Absolute waste of a class.
Mine said that socialism is basically WHEN THE GOVERNMENT DOES STUFF!
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Was it taught by one Wichard Rolff?
@@ajiththomas2465 lal nah. I wish though.
I forgot most of the shit I learned in Economics
My Econ teacher showed us a graph of wages over time and said “LOOK! WAGES HAVE GONE UP OVER TIME UNDER CAPITALISM! MARX WAS WRONG!!1!1!!!”
I looked up the graph and it goes up because it doesn’t account for the devaluation of the American dollar lmao
"How many democratically-elected Central and South American governments does the CIA have to overthrow for you to understand that socialism doesn't work?" - Charlie Kirk
Charlie Kirk also complained about the "liberal bias" of his high school econ textbook cause it was by Paul Krugman.
Ah the deep cuts. I love to see them.
@@bensonfang1868 krugman = based
@@willburbur3793 what about the times capitalism failed? Were those because of capitalism as an ideology?
That statement exaggerates the effectiveness of the agency.
Vaush: “Let’s imagine we’re an authoritarian.”
*disables chat*
He had good reason to, but yeah they irony is certainly there lol.
What did chat do to upset him? I don’t understand what they did.
@@wheresthatasteroid5589 I forgot exactly what they were doing, but it was the equivalent of talking while the teacher is talking or making weird noises in class. So honestly how Vaush responded was justified, but it was at the worst possible time lol.
@John Vanegas
Makes sense. Thanks!
He was letting chat imagine better.
Yeah when I was over Japan in the 1990s they didn't teach about the things they did in World War II. The bad things the horrible things they did in the Philippines and Korea China Vietnam Indonesia. Instead they focused on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And a lot of these nationalists and weeaboos cosign this behavior.
Japanese government still to this day has not officially apologized or even acknowledged the war crimes the committed in WW2.
They attacked a harbour, and in return we fucking vaporised them dude.
sunfeatherX3 the nukes were the alternative to a full scale invasion of Japan on the U.S’s part, so I’m ok with them because of our not being educated enough on the effects of radiation
@@sunfeatherX3 Yeah but they hide the fact that Japan murdered millions of chinese people in WWII. Japanese text books also lie about 'comfort women' in Korea (young girls forced into being prostitutes). Basically OP is saying that Japan censors their public from their own history, and they need to be honest about it. The US has a similar problem with our history books when it comes to the Cold War or the Indigenous people of America.
@@mrnogot4251 because that is not the same government
My mandatory financial litteratcy class told me that minimum wage can't be raised because the price would follow.
Jesus Christ there really need to higher standards for acceptabce into teaching (and better pay and benefits to match)
Not if everyone does it. It’s sort of a game theoretical dilemma where the employers only benefit if everyone does it but if only they do it they lose money and have to raise prices to make up for it.
@arrsea Yes, the pfp is a joke and it is very funny.
I mean it is true tho. Wheres all the money coming from?
That profile pic cripples my soul 😂
Rule #1 of propaganda is that you don’t ever call your propaganda what it is. Other states/companies/organizations do propaganda, we do “public relations” and “advertising”
Unless your Chad Goebbels, Reichsminister of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda
@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan That was before the rule #1 was adopted.
The term "public relations" is an American invention. "Propanganda" is a term that was first used by the Catholic church. It meant spreading the faith and was not seen as negative. The modern meaning is a product of 20th century ideological conflict.
@@freethinkingdragon8074 the term 'ideology' has gone through a similar redefinition.
disliked, vaush did not show his bulging muscles tearing this book to shreds
Faxxx
😔
I am deeply hurt by all of the propaganda Vaush has been pushing, such as this. Truly unforgivable.
he (or tempest) changed the title, revolution now
@@xymaryai8283 1984!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The chatters coming back really said "1985 finally" I'm dyingggggg 😂😂😂
@@TurtleChad1 🐢 solidarity ❤
@@TurtleChad1 imposter!
Weird fact, the first person who is recorded using the term "American exceptionalism" was actually Joseph Stalin in the late 1920's.
@amen ra cool story bro
@amen ra What's funny is 3rd world was originally meant to describe countries that didn't pick a side in the cold war. And even in the usual usage sense calling the Soviets a third world shithole is a stretch. We can hate and despise a country's government for its oppression without lying about its economic and industrial strength
@@historicalaccuracy15 True. Back then Switzerland was technically a third world country.
@amen ra depends on the exact context.
Do I want to go through the process, save money and immigrate to Vietnam or China? No. They don’t want a gringo and I don’t have the money to do it.
Would I rather have been born there? Yes. Being poor sucks that much. You should try it some time. Also, China I’d get to live in an ascendant power. So...you know, that dopamine fix and all. Kind of a bad example tbh.
@amen ra dude I've been to Vietnam. I don't know what bombed out District 13 ass shit hole you think it is but I guarantee you if given the choice to pick my birthplace I'd pick Vietnam over Detroit or Flint ANY day.
Lemme guess, it’ll be as misleading as old southern history textbooks about “happy slaves” and “states rights”
and “robert e lee was just really loyal to his state and family” despite fighting to own his fathers slaves and five out of his six fellow virginian generals fighting for the union...
Old southern? That shit was taught in the 90s in San Diego. I mean, Southern California. I didn't know how shit my education was until I read the book, "lies my teacher taught me." I realize I am old in comparison to zoomers, but this wasn't that long ago.
Old? I'm still in high school in the south and we were taught about how the civil war was over states rights and how slaves "willingly" fought for the Confederacy. It's still there.
My econ teacher: reads The Rainbow Fish. Proceeds to claim we are being indoctrinated into socialism.
Me: bruh what
Ah yes that age old capitalist talking point “SHARING IS CARING=SOCIALISM” which definitely doesn’t make those capitalists look like wild-eyed doomsday preppers.
Yeah, the Rainbow Fish earned all his scales fair and square and worked hard for it (by being born). But socialist Leftist cancel culture forced him to distribute his wealth to all those other loser fishes.
I just searched it up and apparently that book series seems kinda poggers honestly
Fuck yeah, socialism is a great thing to indoctrinate you into. Also LMFAO public school teacher saying that. Imagine getting your money from the state and crying about socialism. Oh noeeee
@@Zinoba_ I can 100% imagine this line in a Prager video.
Economics and politics are intrinsically linked and you're going to have a hell of a time trying to explain one without the other.
It's just like you liberals to try and make economics political. What's next, the civil rights movement was political?
@@EdgieAlias I’m assuming this is a joke because I honestly had a good laugh at this
My favorite quote from my intro to politics, economics, and philosophy professor said was "If you want to understand a country's morals ans ethics, look at their tax code"
This class we learned about 5 economic systems ranging from free market capitalism to Soviet style communism. He said economics tries to appear like a hard, data driven science similar to chemistry or biology. When in reality is is a social science. It is much less black and white than people paint it out to be. We talked about prominent writers from that spectrum of economic systems and how even Friedman and Hayke based thier economic ideas along the lines of moral and ethical frame work. They and people like Rand prescribe behavior to people (Like selfishness for Rand or knowing to act in your best interest for Hayke and Friedman) which has nothing to do with economic theory and everything to do with reality. We know humans don't behave that way, we knew this because psychology an sociology had a lot of data ok human behavior while Friedman was still alive and he still continued to push his ideas anyway and people still push today even though there is even more data that proves their beliefs on human behavior are wrong.
@@EdgieAlias you had me in the first half, not gonna lie
Yo that’s real cool. Got any additional readings/sources on the Friedman story? Would love to read more on that dude and his bs
My younger brother does an online, private, Christian homeschooling course. He had U.S. history last year and civics this year. Due to COVID I was home for a good portion of both years. Pretty early on, I talked with my mother about the subtle propaganda in the curriculum. In our first conversation, she said she didn’t really notice any. After that, though, she saw a lot more of it. I helped him with a few assignments and it was amazing how much propaganda was in the curriculum. A lot of it was pretty obvious if you have just over a basic knowledge of history, but some other things were pretty subtle. Be careful out there.
i also did a christian homeschooling course in HS. your comment reminded me of the american history "textbook" we had to read... it was called "A Patriot's History of the United States" and it is exactly what it sounds like.
Could you tell me some examples? I’m really curious since I’m an atheist and a public schooled person ^^
@@canoewithmeat The one I remember most was the way they framed 9/11. It was about what you’d expect (love of freedom vs. hatred of freedom, that kind of stuff). But, to speak to what you might be looking for, there was also a lot of Judeo-Christian vs. Islamic stuff. I also remember them drawing a through line from Moses and the Ten Commandments to the Constitution and Bill of Rights. I’d love to give more details, but a lot of this stuff is going several months.
U said your mom caught on so what did she do?
@@MrHistory269 Contextualize misleading claims and dispel outright falsehoods. For the 9/11 thing, we watched the movie Vice a few days later, so that helped clear things up (at least a little).
I guess everyone in America has a different High School experience. In HS, I mostly learned things like how many grams there are in an eighth, how many eighths there is in an ounce, how many ounces there are in a pound, how much a gram of different drugs cost, how to roll blunts, how to crush & snort Adderall, and also how to clear my absences on the school attendance roll. All of the things I now know about American history, Science, Biology, etc I learned on my own after I graduated High School.
the worst propaganda i get fed in school was when my history teacher called the nazis socialist
Or how late you could be before a tardy becomes an absence and the valuable tool of negotiating a failing grade into something that allows you to narrowly squeak by with something just good enough to pass.
@@bray_1617 I mostly had uninterested teachers. I grew up in a poor small town in the Central Valley of California. For example, my Senior year Econ teacher didn't grade a single test or even look your homework. I would literally call him a moron in my assignments and he didn't once notice. I got an A in his class and I hardly was ever there. They once even put a pink dildo on his desk and it stayed there all day.
@@melodyariel7896 We would have random lockdown drills where all the classroom doors would be locked and closed exactly at 8:00am. If you're late, you would get a long ass lecture about how important it is it arrive to class on time. The irony of keeping you hostage for two hours in the cafeteria while you fall behind on that day's classwork to explain to you just how important it is to arrive to class on time was just too much. LOL
Rolling a B just while reading this lmao. Also p much same. It made me realize how much learning is an attitude more than an activity, and that we don't do enough to motivate our students to learn
This might explain why all my history teachers were coaches...
Interesting observation! I believe this was mostly true for me, too.
That's a result of admins not valuing history as highly. This results in subpart history ed for millions of students.
I'm a history teacher at a school where we're fortunate enough to have hired a lot of solid people for our department, but yes, in waaaaaay too many schools history is the place they dump coaches who have no subject area expertise because they figure "just make them memorize some stuff and take a test on it".
dude- my "history teacher" spewed his unwanted (and fairly racist) ideas on to 12 year olds💀
once he said "blm just wants chaos. the civil rights movement also wanted chaos"
Or all of mine, for that matter. Every money-related or social studies teacher I’ve had in high school has also been a coach. One of them flat-out admitted to me that they don’t know what the hell is going on.
I used to lovingly refer to my high school as “The Gulag”
The Japanese actually killed more civilians in WWII than the Nazis did according to some estimates
It makes sense if you remember that Japan had been fighting China since 1931. Hitler wasn’t in power until 1933, and the first death camps didn’t open until 1940 or 1941 if I remember correctly.
The Japanese killed millions and millions of civilians during WWII
That’s actually not true, the Nazis killed 6 millions Jews plus 11 million people. So the Nazis killed 17 million people which is still more than the 8-12 million people killed by Imperial Japan.
If you exclude the literal holocaust Japan and Germany were tongue to tongue
@@86thrasher And while it is a bit like splitting hairs due to monstrosity talked about when it comes to intent of each group of fascists, the Nazis ideological goal was always total extermination of multiple ethnic groups (and in theory, neverending series of genocides because there is no point where their race war could end). Imperial Japan "only" wanted to enslave themselves a vast colonial empire of forced labor camps and erase subjugated cultures.
arskakarva Yes, the Nazis didn’t just target Jews they targeted other groups they viewed as “sub-human” such as ethnic Slavs. 8 million out of the 17 million people that were murdered in the Holocaust were actually Soviets, 5 million were civilians, 1.5 million were Jews who were apart of the 6 million killed and 3 million were Soviet POWs 50,000 were Jews. The reason why non-Jewish Soviets were targeted was not only because they were communists it was also because they were ethnic Slavs. Nazis also hated any group that wasn’t white, they wanted the idea of a global aryan race.
What annoys me is when I see comments in the section of a WW2 video that covers Imperial Japan’s atrocities I always see “The Japanese made the Nazis look like nuns!” While it is true that what the Japanese army did was beyond atrocious that is debatable. For one, it is true that Western POWs were treated worse by the Japanese but the Germans murdered around 3 million Soviet POWs which was actually way more than the POWs killed by the Japanese. The Whermacht also perpetrated plenty of mass rape and ruthless murder out on the Eastern Front.
@@86thrasher A good example I feel in elaborating on just how much devastation and suffering the Nazi warmachine caused is Belarus. At minimum one in four Belarusians died because of the German invasion, and it may be well over a half of them did. And this was all by intent, the Nazis goal was always a campaign of genocide in the East (itself developing out of the Prussian militarist ambition of colonizing and enslaving the East). It's this ideology of millenarian racial holy war that sets Nazis on their own unique level of evil even among fascists. And a stern reminder why fascism must be opposed, there is no telling if a group even worse than the Nazis could seize power in a country with the capacity for war and genocide comparable to Germany in 1930's; modern day American neo-nazis could literally end the world.
The thing is that the internal logic of Nazi ideology would mean that they would never run out of groups to exterminate. There would never be a point in which their absolute racial purity would be reached. They'd murder all the Slavs and Jews first, but there'd always be a next group that was not pure enough, always someone who is too degenerate after all.
God I remember back in US history there would always be this bit whenever they introduce a new founding father and it would be like a paragraph going over their strapping physical appearance and moral character. "Jeffersons fire-y red hair" springs to mind.
Like I need to learn their policy positions and historical impact not the worlds driest Tinder bio
I recently started reading a book specifically about how propagandistic American History textbooks are, called "Lies My Teacher Told Me" by James Loewen. It was praised by Howard Zinn, would recommend.
Thanks comrade, will check it out
SO EARLY I THINK BERNIE CAN STILL WIN
How to be funny and depressing at the same time
@@Jaden-Ring we live in a society 😕
this is the new “first”, get new jokes
@@FruitRooster I've seen this one like 4 times on new vaush uploads.
@@FruitRooster The second time I've ever seen this exact joke but ok lmao.
clicked thinking vowsh would physically rip a book 0/10 unplayable
Truuuuu
My whole high school econ class was literally nothing but Dave Ramsey videos I am just now recovering.
"What is Progressivism?"
its literally the idea that we can make stuff better than it is currently by listening to the people who say it's not going so great.
Abe Lincoln was a progressive.
@@apriljk6557 No, I was.
@@EdgieAlias was? Until *that* one day?
In Vietnamese high school we did not really teach about how we conquered half of what is Vietnam today.
Basically in high school history book they used the word "explore" to described the process of the Vienamese Kingdom at the time conquering the Southern part of Vietnam. Not only until when I got hold of an old history book that I learnt it was a bloody war of expansion, and we pretty much massacred entire populations to conquer the land.
Why would they hide it?
@@teteteteta2548 Nationalism I guess. The Vietnamese Communist party is nationalist & capitalist as f*ck. Lately they have even started to promote some mythical stuff about the origin of the Vietnamese people. Criticising your country is a big no-no in Vietnam.
Some white, western Tankie with an anime pfp showing up to tell you how wrong you are about your own country and how it's a perfectly communist paradise and and how Ho Chi Minh never harmed a single hair upon a Vietnamese head in T - 5, 4, 3, 2...
@@DUNGSI27 yeah kinda agree with you about the nationalist and capitalist stuff, but where did you get the idea that the government is promoting that mythical shit about our origins ? I always thought of that as just common folklore tbh
@@thinhdo8679 Yes it was common folklore but I noticed they started making a big deal out of it several years ago (especially with the "Gio to Hung Vuong" holiday and all).
A big part of that, I think, has to do with them trying to stir up a patriotic/nationalist sentiment as a response to Chinese aggression.
I had Economics in highschool and my teacher basically answered every question anyone had anytime someone questioned Capitalism he's just say, "well theres Supply, and then theres Demand-"
Considering I was educated in a good public school in Connecticut, I'm kinda lucky I didn't learn only about stuff convenient to the state. I learned about the Japanese internment camps, Korematsu v. United States, the killing of Emmett Till, various Civil Rights Movement killings, and we had to wrap up the year with New Conservatism in the 80s and analyze it through a neutral, analytical lens. I even learned about the Trail of Tears, the Espionage and Sedition Acts, the Maine explosion, and even the Gilded Age and tenements. And this was just my US History curriculum during my sophomore year. My freshman Modern World History curriculum was also very critical of the US, especially during the Cold War section of the curriculum.
What public school in CT if you don't mind me asking? I also went to school in CT, on the shoreline south of New Haven
@@moonpollution3665 Region 15's Pomperaug High School.
The northeast us has some of the best public education in the country on average.
We were literally shown the 2012 red dawn remake at my charter school to learn about defending america. My superintendent told us america didnt know about pol pot until journalists found it on accident. Schools are generally made to serve the interests of the state, luckily teachers tend to be left leaning
@@waltergrace565 theyre both dumb and unrealistic
@@waltergrace565 yeah a dumb movie lmao
Fun fact, the American govt supported the Khmer Rouge into the 90s as a means of pissing off the Vietnamese govt.
@@Durandurandal yup and didnt learn about that until I got into leftism
@@skullthunder3181 WOLVERINES
A perfect example of historical whitewashing I recently overcame was learning about the US-Panama relationship with the podcast Behind the Bastards. All I learned in school was that Teddy Roosevelt wanted a canal built. I never knew about the imperialist bullshit we put that country through
American exceptionalism and manufactured consent huh, sounds like the same traps I fell into before some of my dear friends were kind enough to pull me out. I live in a conservative family (step dad and mom), I used to parrot their talking points and call myself a centrist. Whew, those were not the days. I'm a huuuuge leftie now thanks to my biological dad and some close friends of mine.
I had to take high school econ and while a good amount of it definitely felt slanted towards propoganda regarding capitalism, I was really pleased to find that there was a whole section on Marx in the 'influential figures' section which didn't say anything negative about Communism and actually outlined it as being practical and rational just the same as the sections on Capitalist thought leaders.
They didn’t include Adlin’s number or the word poggers A SINGLE TIME!
Alden's*
I literally always had this feeling when going to school; that much of what I was exposed to in terms of learning and socialization was a little bit suspect or incomplete to differing degrees in regards to the totality of explanation.
I thought he would rip it apart, very disappointed
I went to school in texas and my mandatory highschool government class said moses was an american founding father. On par with george Washington.
I went to school in Texas and the highschool government class I went to did not do any of that and the teacher mentioned all sorts of corruption in the government including iron triangles, gerrymandering, and the obvious corruption that is the Super PAC backdoor.
I'm curious, were you in a public highschool or a private religious institute and what year did you encounter that misinformation?
What the fuck is wrong with Texas?
@@goldengears5355 the duality of Texas
This comment had me in tears.
Ah yes the american state of the hebrew tribes
The real comrades will remember this video when it was called “Vaush tears economic textbook”
I don’t remember what the video was originally called, I am not a true comrade.
Yes most people you call each other "comrades" are sht at it
In Dallas proper we have one school district so that the rich people fund the schools in the poorer areas as well. It’s difficult to manage but is slowly getting better, COVID not withstanding. There are some places like the park cities which are Dallas suburbs completely surrounded by Dallas proper and they tend to be wealthier as well, but pay into their own school district. Along with Plano ISD.
If he was a teacher I'd be afraid to ask a dumb question
It's a very special situation when you have a constant yapping chat in your face
Cause you would be sent to a communist gulag? PepeLaugh
I need Professor Vaush to teach actual classes
O hell ya
You say that, until you have to turn in homework to professor vaush
Poor kids.
If they don’t hypers in chat they will be shout at...
@arrsea “average minimum wage” pick one mate
@arrsea yea we "should" get 24$ in America but that just won't work.
smh i can't believe american econ textbooks don't even teach alden's number anymore
Preach
Sike
As a history nerd from Texas, it always bothered me that WWII Lessons were just to say Haulocaust bad, and oddly in all of my high school history classes we never ever talked about the Cold War or anything beyond that (except 9/11)
Honestly the one thing I actually really like about my country is that schools aren’t afraid to educate us on our horrible history at all.
Like, in 5th grade we watched a movie called the book thief which was about a girl who lost her family in a “train accident” being adopted by a German couple and then living in Germany during the time of the Nazi regime shortly before ww2. It’s a really good movie especially because it really shows you the horrors of it all without being too graphic for children to watch and still being a story that people especially kids can relate to. We had the topic in German class, history class and even a bit in English class. We also watched a movie in 7th grade in cinema on its premiere day. The second film was a documentary retelling the oppression of Jews from the perspective of holocaust survivors being interviewed. This movie was a lot more graphic, showing pictures of corpses stacked on top of each other in concentration camps and so on. We still come back to the topic every once in a while and a huge chunk of the curriculum in the last few years of school in history class is taken up by analyzing propaganda and texts from back then and debunking the nazi ideology.
I think how Germany teaches its people about its history is pretty great overall but I just wish there’d also be more of a focus on other issues like racism and homophobia since that is barely discussed outside of religion class.
Thanks for reading! Btw please tell me if I messed some grammar up or something, I’m still learning English.
Last time I was this early my novels were still being published
I wish he would've done this in front of my teacher
I’d say this was more about recognizing indoctrination and propaganda from the state rather than examining a US high school Econ textbook but that might just be me
A long time ago, American leaders realized that explicit hardline ideology is easy to see and this easy to combat. These same thought leaders also realized that soft power, soft implication, and subtle levels of indoctrination at an early age is very VERY difficult to combat or eliminate en mass
"Speak softly and carry a big stick" - Teddy Roosevelt
They teach Econ as a mandatory class at my old high school. It was basically all supply and demand/ budgeting.
Yeah my great-uncle was a Montford Point Marine and he fought in the Battle of Peleliu and Okinawa. And he told me on Peleliu they hardly took any Japanese prisoners.
Weren’t they die before surrender or is this a stereotype
@@teteteteta2548 I know the Japanese soldiers did have the code of bushido. And the ones on Peleliu did fight to the very end.
@@teteteteta2548 very few surrendered. They were taught theyd be raped and tortured and eaten by western troops. So they fought to the end
this reminds me of the time in my econ class in highschool where we had an assignment that imo was explicitly demonstrating the failings of other economic systems compared to a capitalist one. A few years later I emailed my econ teacher and I'll just leave this quote here "The state would prefer I teach Socialism as a big scary thing and that Venezuela is a prime example of Socialism. The TEKS also requires we teach the economic philosophies of Hayek, Friedman yet omits Marx. I think it's good to add Hayek and Friedman to the mix when Keynes dominates economic education until you get to the graduate level, but omitting Marx is not acceptable."
In Arizona sex ed we talked about STDs, but we didn't talk about HIV. I brought it up specifically and the teacher basically said "yes, that is a disease".
I only later learned talking about HIV is not allowed in AZ sex ed curriculum.
Vaush tears apart a high school.
Those children were DESTROYED by facts and logic. Socialism wins again 😎
Those children were DESTROYED by facts and logic. Socialism wins again 😎
*multiple High schools
Vaush wants to fund more schools becuase he keeps tears them apart.
as an Econ major, what I was taught in econ 101 is a very simple approach to the world problems and it is bad. Many research that has done in the Econ field has been pretty contradictory from a typical intro to Econ class
I had econ 101 in high school. (class of '14) Not an AP thing for my school. It was a general requirement. But it was essentially supply and demand graphs.
The closest thing I had to a left wing teacher was my world history teacher. My AP Pol Sci was a lib, believed in the bernie bros thing, thought Klobuchar and Hillary were amazing, also class was filled with very narcissistic Hillary stans. Talking all the time about socialist Venezuela and "CRAZY BERNIE". My friend ended up having a physics teacher who was an ancap and climate change denier who would debate my anarcho communist friend daily lol.
Why is it that tech and engineer dudes tend to be right-wing
They may be autistic and disconnected from human emotion, not tagging on neurodivergent people here. Also they may be uneducated about reality outside of their basement.
@arrsea ragging on
My college Econ 101 book was basically 250 pages talking about how Milton Friedman was the second coming of Christ and that the New Deal ruined the American economy.
Have you heard of "Fiscal Ship"? It's an economic game used for econ teaching in highschools, it's definitely pro-capitalist and pro-corporation
Really weird going back to look at it after changing my opinions on those topics lol 😅. It'd be cool to see someone on breadtube looking at it, bc I'm curious of the policies in it and their costs are accurate
its crazy to think that most US citizens never learned about the military coups and dictatorships that america funded in south america during the cold war. Like how are you NOT hearing about this???
"how is this functionally different?"
Well effectiveness for one, anyone with half a sense of rhetoric or argumentative skills knows that its a milion times as effective to make someone believe their opinions are the result of their own logic than to just force something on them.
I went to a pretty decent high school, and I remember I was taught during the final weeks of econ, we ended with diving into economic theory. The year after I graduated, they had actually finally added AP General Econ, and AP Macroeconomics and AP Microeconomics.
I had a high school economics class which I don't remember shit from except how the text book used anime as an example of some sort of economic principal. I wish I still had the picture saved to my phone
The problem with education in America isn’t mainly that the curriculum is decentralized, it’s absolutely because the methods of FUNDING are decentralized, in other words they are highly dependent on local sources of funding. Whereas in most other countries funds are distributed on a federal level which tends to equalize disparities in educational outcomes.
my high school econ class was ASAD Charts, Supply and demand, Oppurtunity cost, Tradeoff, and basic business structure. It definitely helped indoctrinate me as I called myself economically conservative and socially liberal at the time. Oh yeah and the class was only available Sophomore and Junior year
But those are important things for understanding how the economy works at least on a micro level.
@@stavrostziounis4756 i swear man. People think that understanding econ is indocrination but what did karl marx literallt spend 40 years trying to do? Understand capitalist economics.
If you dont understand it how can you change it
I went to a pretty good public school outside of Pittsburgh, we had a fairly good history/political science curriculum. Econ was offered in 12th grade (either 1 semester of Econ/Honors Econ or 2 semesters of AP Econ). I took honors Econ as an elective and the teacher I had was just spewing capitalist propaganda. He started saying the American Revolution was fought over high taxes and used that to justify lower top marginal tax rates, despite colonial taxes being extremely low. I can’t imagine too many other people are getting a good economics education if that’s the experience I had.
yeah this continues in college, im being forced to take an entrepreneurship class for my major and its content is such a joke and clearly just trying to plant the idea that entrepreneurs r gods
when you get 3 years into econ and realize everything you learned in the first year is bullshit
I got no sex ed. I didn't learn about the native american massacres in utah. And i was taught a propagandist song.
Utah with it's mountains and valleys
Utah what a great place to be
Its the land that we love
this is the place
Utah! Utah! Utah!
This is the place!
I made my teacher aware of how I knew it was bullshit.
@Ben Shapiro i can't tell if you are a fanboy or a parody account.
@Ben Shapiro
Good then that native american genocide wasnt a single event, but tied to american expansion to west, manifest destiny and done to multitude of "tribes"
Seeing the "uncivilized" people as lesser lead to the remaining reservations of ingenious people today, on land that wasnt valuable enough to take.
Its not irrelevant to USA as it is how USA got the vast "empty" and resource rich lands it has today
I don't think people REALLY understand how bad "private school" educations can be, ESPECIALLY when they're religious. Until I went to high school somewhere else, we had never gotten basic sexual education (or anything on the subject for that matter) because they thought it was a dirty subject and a sin. Their logic was "why would we teach you about it if you just abstain from sex until marriage?". Before I came out, the only mention about LGBTQ+ that I had from them was one of those sit-down talks about how bad it was and how we should try to convert whoever came out. I remember them showing us a video of turkey and how they had people over loudspeakers calling to their "false gods" and told us to feel bad for them because they were "confused". Not to mention how right-winged bias was literally everywhere in the curriculum. They also get away with not following mask mandates because they don't fall under the jurisdiction for some reason. All of this is just the tip of the iceberg, I have so many other stories like this.
You should really should reach out and bring on Arindrajit Dube. I’m pretty sure an Econ professor like him would be willing to address how we could do a lot of “lefty” policies in an economically feasible way.
Based on the fact that Vaush has had a lot of “preaching to the choir” people who explain unions, suing the government, I think this will be just as useful
Another reason direct is bad, is because it turns the students who disagree or are skeptical into the OTHER. Imagine a kid in history class who isn't agreeing, all the other students wonder what is wrong with them. It makes conformity an intense pressure. In order to survive you need to keep your head down and agree.
WHY PINK VAUSH NO LONGER IN THUMBNAIL
Clickbait, no books were torn apart.
Taking micro Econ in college and the same thing that the USSR was communist and it failed because communism controls the economy too much. It totally ignored that though the country work towards communism that it was never communist itself and that there are many kinds of socialism/communism just like different kinds of capitalism that the book did mention.
This is why counter-propaganda should be part of English literature. Honestly, those dusty old books need to stay on the shelf. Counter-propaganda is so much more enjoyable and engaging. My hs English literature teacher used it extensively to teach us about rhetorical devices as a subcategory of literary devices. Actually, I think it can be incorporated into just about every single subject. Honestly, what is a class in statistics without defining stochastic fallacies?
My economics teacher fanboyed Reagan quite obviously, but I still learned enough to apply ideas to a more left leaning economic organization. It was in Texas.
Haha, I wonder when that wealth will trickle down
I took AP Econ (graduation requirement at my school) and yeah it’s mostly supply/demand curves. Not super indoctrinating but my teacher was critical of capitalism and really spoke highly of Marx. She was also the AP European History teacher. One of the coolest ladies I’ve ever met
I learned about slavery and racism in high school here in Texas in fact to drive home how fucked up things were in the south that they showed us old photos of lynchings in the south and how people were so sadistically happy about it and those photos that I saw shaped the amount of disgust I see towards people trying to act that racism never happened
>"I dont think high schools have econ classes"
>mfw I'm taking a mandatory econ class next year
>graduation requirement
Smh smh
It's really dependant on state/school district. I graduated 4 years ago in May, and we had a semester personal finance course that barely covered how to do taxes, pay bills, and showed us how to apply for jobs via paper applications/job fairs. (Not useful since most shit is online now.) The other semester of that year was Health/Sex ed, and was also kind of lacking. We had AP Government classes, but never anything specific on economics.
Yeah really depends my friend. Most schools don’t.
I grew up in Louisiana. My high school did teach about the bad things America has done, such as Japanese Internment Camps, Slavery, how badly and consistently we screwed over the Natives, the evil stuff Train/Oil Barons of the 19th Century did, etc etc. However, the actual information about these events was not conveyed well because the Teachers themselves did not care about teaching these subjects, and usually just hand waved or zoom right through it so they can talk about how cool the Spartans were or something. Teachers, please try to convey all history with the same amount of respect as you'd give history you personally care about. Yes, the Spartans were cool, but some things are a little more important than that-
Also one of my teachers was a legit conspiracy theorist who tried teaching Anti-Vaxx lessons in class lol. I tried reporting him, but I never received an email back. This was a case of the curriculum being fine, but the actual management/teachers being dogshit.
11:57 "As an authoritarian"
Somebody clip that and make the left burn
His comments about Texas public education being terrible is totally accurate. When I was in junior high/high school in TX, I remember being distinctly taught that the civil war wasn’t fought over slavery and that trickle down economics actually trickled down wealth
I was blessed because despite being born in small town Indiana, I went to a hippie socialist charter school so I got a better education than many of my peers.
I only learned about the japanese internment camps is because our history teacher absolutely thought it was important for us to learn about them because our towns fairgrounds was used as one of the camps. Our teacher said "if it wasn't here that it happened you may not even know about this subject because i am teaching you from my highschool experience not what the books tell us to teach you."
Was it the Puyallup Fairgrounds in Washington State? If so that's around my neck of the woods as well and my class first learned about Japanese internment back in 8th grade.
Don’t mind me just feeding the algo
Bru Econ is a class that all seniors have to take at my class, it’s not just supply and demand but like learning how stocks work, financing a house, buying a house/car, how to pay taxes
Hey, I'm an American and went to private school, my education was EXCELLENT.
my high school has the IB program and the online textbook we use has an embarrassing amount of propaganda. i just took notes on supply side policies and an extensive part of the lesson was unions being bad (with a of photo of dirty streets), reducing unemployment benefits, reducing or abolishing the minimum wage, etc. none of these things were framed as *maybe* kind of bad but were just presented like "yep, this will stimulate the labor supply!"
The propaganda is real! I have some Trump supporters in my family and they are doubling down on Dr. Seuss. They consistently regurgitate the same ole talking points... “Remind me when white history month is!” That’s just a small taste that I see daily.
From Texas here...
as a texan i can confirm that our education is so fucking awful
My high school economics teacher showed us a PragerU video. Yikes
My highschool was also extremely basic, the main takeaway was the supply demand curve and the opportunity cost
My highschool had mandatory Econ class and our teacher was a based potato man. he taught us why supply side Econ was trash and why keysian Econ was based. Soc dem moment. He was kind of a dick but at least he wasn’t bias.
TBF I learnt most of economics and *actual implementation* through Sociology, not Economics
Economics is basically ideology and "what people think" - Sociology will tell you *what actually worked* based on history - it's why I know Left-wing economic policy does indeed work better* than Right-wing
*as a Liberal Utilitarian
The old name for Economics: Political Economy.... it was more honest.
Apparently America is the only country that tells their children that "Our Country is the best you shpuld be grateful you live here". I just assumed everywhere was like that but my friend from UK said thats weird af.
This video will be fun, fucking econ 101, econ 201, and macroeconomics were *FUN* courses I took, plus an accounting class in highschool.
Vanish forgot to mention that the “progressivism” in the 1776 Commission was referring to the Progressive Era of the early 20th Century, not modern progressives. It says that having basic health and safety regulations are tyrannical. I’m so glad this never got into our classes and national parks.
I thought he was gonna go through a specific book.
My High School Econ class had a lot of indoctrination with us watching prager u and some documentary about the virtue of greed, but I also am from South Carolina.
Damn, I missed the Bill Burr thing and the video got taken down. What did Vaush say about it?