Micro Swiss NG Direct Drive Upgrade (Creality Ender 5)

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  • Опубликовано: 13 дек 2024

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  • @EricSchreiber1
    @EricSchreiber1 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm another satisfied customer. This walk-thru made the process dead simple. The only issue I had was removing the heater element and thermocouple from the old hot end. They didn't want to come out until it occurred to me to turn it on for a few seconds to heat up the block. They they both basically fell right out.

  • @joshjimenez9696
    @joshjimenez9696 Год назад +10

    Bought one of these when they first came out to make my ender 3 able to print ABS reliably and so far it's been extremely easy to use and reliable.

  • @meanman6992
    @meanman6992 Год назад +3

    Yay! More Ender 5 content! TY sir

  • @EsotericArctos
    @EsotericArctos 10 месяцев назад +1

    As a note, the original wiring is covered by that mesh. The mesh can the bunched up, giving a much larger area and the Extruder extension cable can run inside that mesh, the just manipulate the mesh slightly to get a gap (not breaking any threads of the mesh) to bring the cable connector out near the old extruder position. This makes the cabling look a lot neater than just zip tied to the outside of the original wiring mesh.
    Creality now do have firmware for their "spider" hot ends that allows higher print temps, but you are better off rolling your own firmware using either Kilipper or Marlin to get a lot of extra features Creality do not enable by default. Plenty of videos on how to do this on RUclips.
    Edit: The stock thermistor that comes with Creality Ender 5, the glass ball type one, is not rated above 290 degrees and the newest versions of Marlin will not compile if you try to set the max temperature to 300 with this thermistor.

  • @calebnelson5809
    @calebnelson5809 Год назад +9

    Advice if you get a clog in your heater block.... Use Q-TIPS to clean the silver piece. Helped out a ton when I accidentally got melted filament all over.

    • @dylanlasky2389
      @dylanlasky2389 Год назад +1

      When mine started leaking I ended up having to replace it. The threads were too loose and leaked badly no matter how tight it was.

  • @bubbadoolittle2812
    @bubbadoolittle2812 Год назад

    Thanks!

  • @Mattittas
    @Mattittas Год назад +2

    I installed the NG on my Ender-3 V2 four days ago, and on my first TPU-print I didn't tighten the extruder lever enough (I think...) and had a massive clog which I just couldn't figure out for an entire day. After realizing that all I needed was to release the lever arm with one screw, everything cleaned up nicely and has been working perfectly for the last days, printing constantly.
    It's such a nice upgrade, except from having to print the CR-touch bracket yourself, which I of course managed to snap during installation, and my old Z-limit switch is in the garbage somewhere. Lucily I've got a resin printer too, so I could print a spare, but it would be nice if it could be included in some way.

  • @Ripcord10
    @Ripcord10 10 месяцев назад +1

    There is no link in the description for a PID tune..

  • @justaddjeff1988
    @justaddjeff1988 Год назад +3

    1. Don't forget to print your BLTouch bracket before starting.
    2. Replace the stock cable wrap with some 1/4" split like ZGNO.25BK.

    • @djmgarage306
      @djmgarage306 Год назад +3

      Mine came with the bl touch bracket

  • @FlydreamMedia
    @FlydreamMedia 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you for this. Installed this on my Ender 5 pro and out the box printed better than the stock parks. Got sick of TPU not feeding properly. Easy swap with your video

  • @klave8511
    @klave8511 Год назад +3

    Great explanations, very clear and helpful, thanks. I was going to ask about the bed level sensor then saw you even mentioned that. A little more on getting it running or a new video on that please.

  • @TheJadedCoder
    @TheJadedCoder 4 месяца назад

    Thanks for this! Used this to upgrade my Ender 5 pro today and your instructions were perfect!

  • @mr.tsdroidfactory6717
    @mr.tsdroidfactory6717 Год назад +1

    Great video but could not find any info on reinstalling the BL Touch. My NG did include the bracket but additional info would have been nice.

  • @JosephStory
    @JosephStory Год назад +1

    I bought mine during the Cyber Monday sale and I'm loving it. Pretty much direct drop-in on my longer LK5. Just needed to print a fan adapter for the 5015 radial type, since I didn't have a 4010(?) part cooling fan laying around.

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  Год назад +1

      I have been running these (NG) for a while now. They just work really well. I have thrown a pretty wide range of filaments at it.

  • @sanderveenman599
    @sanderveenman599 Год назад +1

    isnt the thermistor lining of the thermistor near the heatblock made of PTFE? printing at hight temps would damage the ptfe lining and utltimatley destroy your thermistor. I ran this setup for about 600 plus hours and then i got a malfunction in the thermistor . another youtuber made a video about exactly this issue.

  • @thehammertim
    @thehammertim 2 месяца назад

    Great video, made installing it a breeze. However, i'm returning this, the extrusion was problematic at best. I may have ended up with a bad motor or cable but support was hard enough to come by from these folks, by I'd never know.

  • @therick0996
    @therick0996 Год назад +1

    Don’t have an Ender 5, don’t plan on getting a Microswiss, watched the whole video anyways :)

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  Год назад

      You rock! I spent alot of time getting footage for this in hopes that it would be very clear to follow for anyone that wants to do this mod.

  • @ReinkeDK
    @ReinkeDK Год назад

    Thanks for an excellent video.
    I followed it today, and it was always clear what to do.
    Currently my printer is printing the benchy :)

  • @Wired570
    @Wired570 Год назад +1

    Does anyone know how to add the bed leveler back onto it?

  • @hamthomas4715
    @hamthomas4715 Год назад

    Great vid as always! I just installed my Ender 6 version last night and good LAWD is it nice. I wish I had RUclips skills to put together something like you've made here, but I'm going to document the process loosely with pics & text.
    I'm printing the CR Touch bracket I designed now, then I've got a 5015 adapter up next, and my NG is going to be purring!
    Thanks again for the discount code you had on your 100k stream! 🧑‍🔧

    • @slicedpage
      @slicedpage Год назад

      print two brackets, thank me later:)

    • @hamthomas4715
      @hamthomas4715 Год назад

      @@slicedpage what do you mean?

    • @slicedpage
      @slicedpage Год назад

      @@hamthomas4715 When I bought my NG a few months ago it did not come with a bracket for my cr touch. I had to print one before I removed the old hotend. So I dismantled my ender 3 hotend and attached the new NG. Then I wanted to attach my CR touch and the bracket broke. Now I had a new NG with an unlevel bed and a print that HAD to be printed ASAP for a customer. I cobbled together a bracket to get the job done but I regretted only printing one cr touch bracket. So I always advise new buyers of the NG to print at least two. Now of course micro swiss includes these brackets with the purchase.

    • @hamthomas4715
      @hamthomas4715 Год назад

      @@slicedpage the Ender 6 is "incompatible" with CR/BL Touch according to Creality, so MS doesn't provide a bracket STL for it, let alone ship a premade one. That's why I had to design one, and I'll be posting/sharing that once I'm done tinkering.

  • @AndrewAHayes
    @AndrewAHayes Год назад +2

    Why they did not release a version with dual part cooling is beyond me, I have the Hero Me 5 with dual part cooling and it made a massive difference to my part quality on ones that needed that extra cooling duct.

    • @anwyll
      @anwyll Год назад

      They have released the STL for the duct and I printed the 4020 variant. It works very well and definitely superior to stock fan version.

    • @rcflyer2k
      @rcflyer2k Год назад

      Using a NG with a 5015 on my E3Max via an adaptor, and doing 60m bridges with no problems, and it does have dual fan outlets, so it cools both sides of the print well.

  • @LyleH-13
    @LyleH-13 Месяц назад

    any idea if this is compatible with the zerog corexy system?

  • @slicedpage
    @slicedpage Год назад +1

    I bought my NG six months ago and it was a fantastic upgrade however, last week the heater block dropped during a print. I put it down to not tightening the grub screw enough and cleaned everything up. When it came to re-inserting the heartbreak it was too wide! The only way to get it back in was to file it down, which seemed silly so I bought a replacement. It dropped too. Has anyone experienced this before? I followed the fitting instructions to the letter.
    April 23 Update. When the heater block dropped it was because I used the wrong set/grub screw to hold the heatsync in place. It needed to be a conical screw. My NG is back to normal with the help of micro swiss support who have the patience of Saints.

  • @spyderdyneincorporated5031
    @spyderdyneincorporated5031 Год назад

    Mine doesn't work. Looks like a bad stepper motor. Coil Short errors. Do you guys QA anything before you assemble it and send it out?

  • @kihgu
    @kihgu Год назад

    allready 103k subs. feels like u got 100k yesterday

  • @literallykey3298
    @literallykey3298 Год назад

    I have actually been considering getting an NG extruder, so very topical

  • @bfavre481
    @bfavre481 Год назад

    Just subscribed! You have great knowledge on these things! Can’t wait to learn more from you

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  Год назад

      Thank you for the sub 😊. So much more to come.

  • @calebnelson5809
    @calebnelson5809 Год назад +1

    Your tutorials are amazing thank you :) Used your tutorial for my ender 5 using your ender 3 tutorial.

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  Год назад

      Thank you for the kind words 😊. Hopefully this will make it easier for Ender 5 installs but I am glad to hear the Ender 3 one was enough to get you what you needed 👍

    • @calebnelson5809
      @calebnelson5809 Год назад

      Anytime :)

  • @torreyanderson1525
    @torreyanderson1525 Год назад

    after 3 weeks of perfect prints the little grub screw that holds the heat block to the unit has failed and there is filament spewing everywhere. Any advice?

  • @Wired570
    @Wired570 Год назад

    One more question, the stepper motor removed isn’t getting reattached?

  • @HeikosGarage
    @HeikosGarage Год назад

    Hi there, great video. Can you confirm if this Micro Swiss NG Extruder will fit the Sovol SV05? ( fit the extrusion, belt etc.) Thank you

  • @DragnDon
    @DragnDon Год назад

    Some great info as I’m currently about to upgrade my Ender 5 Plus…..but you forgot to include the resources you mentioned, about upgrading to allow higher temps. That’s a bit disappointing.

  • @Demento1974
    @Demento1974 Год назад +1

    Great video as always. Installation is really simple. Just bummed out that the bulk of the kit is 3D printed considering the price for the kit (I'm not in the US so the kit's price is substantially higher).

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  Год назад

      For the fam shroud I feel like it makes sense. Especially when they were showing possible Revo options. It would also be cool to se a shroud made for a 5015. For the reverse Bowden that could definitely be injection molded or machined though. Is it through a reseller for you then?

    • @Demento1974
      @Demento1974 Год назад

      @@ModBotArmy Not through a reseller... directly from Micro-Swiss. The exchange rate between USD and CAD makes everything a little less appealing... I agree with you with regards to the 5015 fan shroud... that'd be great (especially since I use 5015 fans for part cooling on all of my printers).

  • @VRChat_Degen
    @VRChat_Degen Год назад

    excellent video

  • @killermiller9915
    @killermiller9915 Год назад

    For real, got one of these from christmas and went from printing 30mm/s on my ender 3 to 162.5mm/s

    • @coltenmeredith8899
      @coltenmeredith8899 Год назад

      I definitely wouldn't go up that high. I would recommend like 80mm/s max

    • @killermiller9915
      @killermiller9915 Год назад

      @@coltenmeredith8899 yeah I agree with you there as I have fine tuned it a tone. Wouldn't recommend doing this otherwise. It also barely achieves the speeds due to low accel

    • @coltenmeredith8899
      @coltenmeredith8899 Год назад

      @Killer Miller I must ask you, is the ender 5 a good printer? I have been looking at them for a week or so. I only have an E3V2 and have been looking to get something a little nicer.

    • @killermiller9915
      @killermiller9915 Год назад

      @@coltenmeredith8899 I don't have the ender 5 sorry but what I can tell from reviews and raw specs it seems good.

    • @coltenmeredith8899
      @coltenmeredith8899 Год назад

      @@killermiller9915 Oh, what printer did you put it on? An ender 3?

  • @TitoSabbyPH
    @TitoSabbyPH Год назад

    What allen screwdrivers did you use? Can I please know where to get one or atleast what is it called? I have been looking for that kind for the longest time.

  • @paulmyfinger
    @paulmyfinger Год назад +1

    I'm confused. I thought the benifit of a dd was no bowden tube. Wouldn't it still be affected by the hot end temp?

    • @rcflyer2k
      @rcflyer2k Год назад

      No, it is considered a reverse bowden tube, as he said. The extruder is in the hot end, so the bowden tube only directs the filament to the print head. Some people prefer this way, keeping the filament roll where it was before. I prefer mounting the filament spool on top of the printer, then going down to the print head without a tube. Just personal preference.

    • @paulmyfinger
      @paulmyfinger Год назад +1

      @rcflyer2k I'm definitely going to try it. I just thought that short piece of ptfe is a compromise. I'm a bit of a noob so I'm not really sure.

    • @rcflyer2k
      @rcflyer2k Год назад

      @@paulmyfinger Not a compromise, it is the right way to do it. The long tube makes it a PITA to chnage filaments, and a diriect staright line feeds better, at least in my testing over the last couple yeras of usind Direct Drive extrulders.

  • @benur9945
    @benur9945 3 месяца назад

    Thank you for the great video!
    However, I've encountered an issue since updating the e-steps with the provided G-code. Every time I start a new project, the heating cycle begins as expected. But then, the progress bar suddenly jumps from 0% to 20%, then to 50%, 80%, and 100% almost instantly. After that, the printer starts to cool down.
    I suspect that the e-step update may have compromised the firmware on the board. Has anyone else experienced a similar issue? Should I consider fully reloading the software to resolve this problem?

  • @MrBooth1974
    @MrBooth1974 Год назад

    Does that bracket work with the BL Touch in the Ender 5 Pro as well ?

  • @3dTinker
    @3dTinker Год назад

    What are your profile settings for the ender 5 pro

  • @PaganWizard
    @PaganWizard Год назад

    I have the original MS DD on my E5+, and I like it A LOT, but I think I'm going to hold out for MS to release a dual hotend or 2 to 1 hotend. I know BTT makes a 2 to 1 hotend, but I've heard it's pretty fiddly to get to work right.

    • @EsotericArctos
      @EsotericArctos 10 месяцев назад

      If you have a DD that you are happy with, no point upgrading, unless you upgrade for the sake of upgrading. To be honest, although I am looking at these, my Ender 5 Pro prints amazingly well with the bowden tube setup. Because I don't print TPU or other flexible filament, and I don't print high temp filaments, the 260 degree limit on the bowden tube setup is fine for me also. I rarely get stringing, unless I use old filament, and I have never had a jam, which is pretty amazing. Any upgrades would really be just for the sake of upgrading, which can sometimes make things worse.
      Bowden tube has it's advantages by keeping the hot end really light, where adding a DD extruder system woudl add a fair bit of weight on the hot end.

  • @justaddjeff1988
    @justaddjeff1988 Год назад

    Just updated my Ender 5 Pro to Marlin2.0.6HW4.2.2BLTouch and the extruder is going backwards...

  • @bradycat8044
    @bradycat8044 11 месяцев назад

    I know you said not to torque the screw that holds in the hot end but no matter how tight i made it the hot end was loose enough to fall out. I totally striped it before realizing it wasnt going in anymore and now i feel like george from "of mice and men"... Anyone have this happen before or know how to fix it? I got another screw but its gonna take more than super glue and a rubber band to get the old one out...

  • @rickyyym
    @rickyyym Год назад

    Can this be attached if you have the exoslide

  • @gravis00
    @gravis00 Год назад

    Any reason this would be better than my sprite extruder in my 5 S1?

  • @txwombat7826
    @txwombat7826 Год назад

    I've been running the NG for quite a while on my 5+ - the only issue is the filament loading is a pain.. only suggestion I can give is to cut it so it is similar to a pencil - cutting just on one side does not load as easily.

    • @slicedpage
      @slicedpage Год назад

      heat the hotend cut the straightened filament at an angle and slip it through the bowden tube onto the rollers. Please don't worry about the arm thingy. Using the menu select motion then extruder and let the NG take the filament.

    • @txwombat7826
      @txwombat7826 Год назад

      @@slicedpage Thanks - but I'm not the only one having the same issue. I've done what you say time and time again and it jams more often then not. This is not my first 3D printer or DD system.

    • @slicedpage
      @slicedpage Год назад +1

      @@txwombat7826 I was struggling too so I contacted micro swiss and they gave me those steps to follow. I used to almost take the thing apart to get the filament to go through the extruder. I understand this is not your first rodeo and I apologise if I come across as patronising but I know how frustrating what seems to be the easiest step can be. Let me tell you my setup. Ng of course with about 10cm of Bowden tube secured with the coupling and retention clip. The compression arm screw is about 5mm away from the housing. Then as I mentioned before. When I first did it I was annoyed that I could not have done that before LOL However, I have heard stories of the compression arm roller not lining up with the other gears and that those units had to be returned. I hope you do not have one of them, you might like to check.

    • @txwombat7826
      @txwombat7826 Год назад

      @@slicedpage Thanks for the additional details - Filament path / arm is good / aligned.

    • @slicedpage
      @slicedpage Год назад +1

      @@txwombat7826 it is a pickle. Back when I was tearing my hair out trying to load the filament I would twist and push it until I felt it go in but then when I used the extruder to pull it through it would curl up inside where the arm is. I'd remove the housing and unscrew the arm and clear debris away with my trusty can of air and try again. Even the slightest piece of torn filament blocked the hole forcing any filament to go the wrong way. I assume you have done that. That the filament is not uneven. And that there is no chink in the Bowden tube and that you have tried without the tube and that the gears freely move. And that you have tried increasing and decreasing the spring screw on the arm thingy. If so then you may also have contacted Micro Swiss and they have or will tell you what they told me. If you have done all that and yet the filament refuses to go through into the nozzle then maybe the 3D printer gods have decided that this world is not for you and that your destiny lies elsewhere.

  • @Beauty.and.FashionPhotographer

    Beginner question..off topic: Would You at all be familiar with budget friendly 3D Printers that can Print a Hight of 1000mm ( 100cm or 1 meter) ?

  • @omnipotentgoku
    @omnipotentgoku Год назад

    I currently have the micro Swiss direct drive setup for my Ender 5 Plus. It was the first one that has a standard MK hot end and the aluminum plate would there be a great advantage in swapping this out? The only thing I can see is that stepper motor looks to be lighter than my stock one, but I'd have to see a noticeable difference justify the entire cost in swapping it out. What are your thoughts?

    • @slicedpage
      @slicedpage Год назад

      IMHO it was money well spent. Faster prints, multiple filaments, so much less hassle and excellent customer support.

    • @rcflyer2k
      @rcflyer2k Год назад

      I have 2 of the original MS HE/DD and an NG. I don't see a big printing difference between them , but the NG is quite a bit lighter, that might make a difference at higher speeds if using Klipper.

  • @afkafkafk
    @afkafkafk Год назад

    Do you have any plans for a ZeroG mercury One build? CoreXY that Ender 5

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  Год назад

      I just finished my base conversion 2 weeks ago. 😊 check out my other channel “ModBotArmy” we pretty much streamed the entire build.

  • @jon9947
    @jon9947 Год назад

    I much prefer my Sprite to my NG. I know Creality makes a bracket for the Sprite and the Ender 5 now, hopefully they release that bracket soon. I mean both extruders produce almost exactly the same results and you would be super happy with either one, but the creature comforts of the Sprite just make it superior.

    • @JeanSolagnier
      @JeanSolagnier Год назад

      What are the creature comforts that the NG doesn't have compared to the sprite?

    • @jon9947
      @jon9947 Год назад +1

      @@JeanSolagnier The way the whole hotend/extruder is mounted is a big one. It has 3 bolts on the side that are super easy to take on and off, its almost like having something like Wham Bam Mutant. It makes working on the extruder or changing nozzles much easier.
      The NG you have to reuse your wiring. Not a huge deal, but the wiring on the Sprite is super clean. 1 cable that is easy to take on and off for everything including the CRTouch. Speaking of the CRTouch it has an ABL bracket built in.
      Like every hotend I have seen Creality produce, the heater block is attached to the heatsink. You dont have to worry about the heater block spinning when changing a nozzle.

  • @nicholaskarassavas5668
    @nicholaskarassavas5668 Год назад

    I upgraded my Ender 5 pro with the NG revo & all good, however I recently installed a bltouch & now my extruder runs in reverse???? Has anyone a solution?

    • @eethon1
      @eethon1 5 месяцев назад

      swap the wires to the stepper motor around

  • @corlissmedia2.0
    @corlissmedia2.0 Год назад

    what happened to proper printing? was their an accident?

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  Год назад

      I hope not?! I have not heard anything. I know he normally works on very ambitious projects so I figured he was deep in his next video. I hope he is okay.

    • @corlissmedia2.0
      @corlissmedia2.0 Год назад

      @@ModBotArmy he had the flu apparently. He didn’t say what kind.

  • @GreenAppelPie
    @GreenAppelPie Год назад +2

    They should just include to CR/BL mount, everyone uses those these days

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  Год назад +2

      Newer kits all ship with a printed BLtouch mount. As far as crtouch I am not 100% about the physical differences between the two. It may require some slight adjustment.

    • @jon9947
      @jon9947 Год назад

      @@ModBotArmy The wire location on the CRTouch is in a slightly different place than the BL/3D Touch. It is a simple enough thing to make a BLTouch mount work with the CRTouch. Import the stl into something like TinkerCAD or 3D Builder and take a very small cut out of the stl so the wires can clear the mount.

    • @GenericEquivalent
      @GenericEquivalent Год назад

      @@ModBotArmy really because I just ordered mine last Monday directly from micro swiss and it didn't have it, I guess I'm sending an email to customer support

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  Год назад +1

      @@GenericEquivalent yeah they told me roughly around then that they would all be shipping with them.

    • @GenericEquivalent
      @GenericEquivalent Год назад

      @@ModBotArmy yeah I'm going to email them, not because I need it as I printed my own before I bought the NG but dang I want it if it's supposed to be there maybe their print is better than mine lol

  • @borisdamole
    @borisdamole Год назад

    Microswiss shipping keeps messing up for me. They sent me a broken NG, then i ordered the ender 5 adapter later and they sent me the linear rail version.
    They said they would send the correct part but never did. I ended up just switching to linear rail anyways.
    Great products, horrible fulfillment.

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  Год назад +1

      That is wild to hear. I have never heard of issues with their shipping before. Glad you made it work, but yeah that’s not good.

    • @borisdamole
      @borisdamole Год назад

      @ModBot ya the products are so nice too, but now I worry when ordering from them.

  • @SupaaMann
    @SupaaMann Год назад

    Is the shroud too thin for heat sets? Seems like that could've easily been factored in to keep the self tapping screws out and reducing one point of potential failure (not that it doesn't introduce its own), especially for the price

    • @slicedpage
      @slicedpage Год назад

      the shroud is prone to touching the hotend but quite sturdy. You could print a replacement if you had to.

  • @GenericEquivalent
    @GenericEquivalent Год назад

    Hahaha omg I just installed this last night on my ender lol get out of my head internet lol

  • @ltraltier6009
    @ltraltier6009 8 месяцев назад +1

    Well what's the fucking point of a direct drive if you still need to use a bowden tube and the original extruder block installed separately? there are other ender printers that don't require a PTFE tube at all and the creality sprite kit is better than this.

  • @Shinare73
    @Shinare73 Год назад

    This has been out quite a while now and the price is still ridiculous. It's half the price of my entire printer
    LOL

    • @slicedpage
      @slicedpage Год назад

      @@rcflyer2k I guess maths was not your fav subject at school