Are Tritypes Real?
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Tritypes brought me home. I am stunned how many Ennegram video mentors disregard this gem. I studied tritypes and thought myself a 5-8-4 sp. Took her (Katherine Fauvre's) tritype test (free) and it took me home to 5-8-2...BINGO! Never thought myself a 2 but as soon as I saw the test results I knew. Never actually was comfortable with 4 but "settled" for it. But I am def. a 5-8-2...and her tests also point to the instincts very accuratey. She is an expert Enneagramist and Trityper...active since the early 90's. On YT.
This is great! You should interview Katherine! You got it! Katherine Chernick Fauvre's descriptions of Tritype are more profound and quite logical. I really praise her work because her tips actually work with clients. She is the one who created Tritype when she found consistent patterns. She has many years of research and found 3Types, aka Tritype, two years before Ichazo found Trifix. She was exploring how the types saw themselves. Here's the thing: her test can detect the hard-to-type 6 and the equally hard-to-type 9 that identify with other types before finally landing on their type. I have all my clients take her test.
I learned to listen to her tips and pay attention to the blend of the three types. It is easy to miss a type. I did. I missed the 6 in my Tritype. Finding it was a game-changer. Katherine's 1994 research made all of this possible. She said she interviewed everyone she could and then noticed that people had the core fears, idealized images, and defense strategies of three types, not just one. What were the odds, right?! Back in the 80s, nothing was taught or written in a book on how the types described their inner experience. Who knew! Katherine Chernick says that when someone makes a mistake in their Tritype, it is because they are going for types they identify with, think they should be, or have become, which are behaviors, not motivations. She stresses going for the nagging irritations, the hidden idealized images, secret fears, and most of all, those troublesome reactions that defend your reality.
BTW her 2-hour advanced Tritype individual archetype videos with a 1.5-hour introduction video are finally HERE! More humbled...but still an 846. I have watched it three times. They are arriving every day at www.katherinefauvre.com/products
5-8-2 is a standard integration path. you didn't need to take that test, you just had to study enneagrams carefully in the first place.
I think there’s a lot of legitimacy to the tritype because we all struggle with the central issues of the three centers: shame, fear, and anger. 416 here btw.
379 here, the Ambassador! Through a string of bizarre synchronicities I ended up assisting her in a workshop.
I’m so happy you’re tuning into this also as it’s massively deepened my work with my clients.
It is only through the theory of Tritypes that I have finally come to understand myself fully. It makes things so much clearer than just saying you are "a Three", or "a Three wing four" etc 🙏
Fauvre (Spelling???)got approval of her theory by one of the first founders of the enneagram. Although, like you, I have not seriously explored Tri-types, I find her to be an excellent dedicated teacher. I really enjoy your videos.
The reason there‘s not a lot of info about tritypes out there is because Katherine Fauvre, the person who came up with them, trademarked them and so other people aren’t allowed to write about them without her permission. But if you’re interested in more about them, I recommend watching her RUclips videos or maybe buying one of her PDFs. She‘s the best enneagram teacher I‘ve ever stumbled across, even if it‘s a bit annoying to me how gated her tritype theory is. But she does so much research, is constantly updating her books and everything with each new thing she learns. She‘s not shy to correct her mistakes and she truly has a vast knowledge of people through the work she does.
Thanks... I did not know this about her.
I can't remember but I think she was strongly advised to trademark the term so as to prevent misleading information being published by other parties. This way she has control over the accuracy.
Kathrine Faurve is an 8 😊
@@april4432 Yes! It also stems from Naranjo's history of work also being published and expanded upon without his knowing and people actually taking credit for all his research and expanding upon it; that he actually took a hiatus for about a decade before returning back to his work that we all know today :D
I'm so glad you're talking about this. I've been confused about my enneagram for a long time until I've found tritypes
I'd love to see more videos on tritype too! Specifically how different tritypes make decisions, and what happens when they make the wrong decisions.
Her tests are so wonderful, colorful, insightful and accurate especially if you are very honest with your responses. I thought I was an 947, 927, 926, or 925. It turns out that I'm a 946 sp/sx. One of my deadliest sins is Envy rather than pride. I do value art, authenticity, loyalty, and calmness.
There is definatly something to tritypes ... im a 529
Tri-type makes a lot of sense for me. I'm a 5-8-4 Scholar Archetype (finally nailed down my dominant type as probably 5 by looking at both 4s and 5s under stress and seeing that my underlying motivations were way more in-line with 5s or even 8s over that of 4s). I was also talking to another friend of mine about the Enneagram and he's a 496 tritype and both of us, when we were trying to nail down our types, ended up with 1 in each of the triads (fear/shame/anger). I'm not sure if this is the case for most people, but I thought it was interesting because were just talking about it earlier this week and I saw your video today!
Thank you so much for this video. I was wondering about tri types and couldn't find enough info.
Tri-types made me almost evangelical about enneagram.
I am INFP 4w5 and it didn't land perfectly with me until I discovered I am 4-8-7 tri-type.
Explains a LOT!
That's awesome to hear how much tri-types have impacted your understanding of the Enneagram! That Tri-Type has some unique names for it...ha ha
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😬 I can't deny any of them!
I love the tri-type! I'm a 7-3-9 I want to be happy and for everyone else to be happy and have fun. When that's not working I get over the top competitve and just want to be show off to get attention or approval. If that doesn't work, I just want to sit on the sofa curled up with a blanket and binge watch something. We are called the Ambassador
I really liked this one. I found Kathrine Fauvre and thought it was a really great representation for people to better understand themselves
100 been waiting for this! I am not sure why so many enneagramologists eschew tritypes. We are complex beings! I found my 478 tritype before I figured out I was a 4. Tritypes all the way 😁
Learning tritypes will help you understand 6s way better! A 648 next to a 629, completely different people!
Indeed. Especially with your example because a 6 with an 8 combo will typically manifest as a counterphobic 6.
@@gooddaygene8355 in my experience yes! I’m a 648 and the triple reactive is definitely going to be the counterphobic type. My family was surprised to learn I’m a 6 actually because I hide my fear and worries so well.
Cool, I'm 684 sx/so myself. A very tricky thing to understand is that a 6 boes not scare in the traditional sense. Fear is typically present in all people, all types. That isn't what a 6's calling card is. It is having anxiety about having anxiety.
Meaning, if I am unsure (have anxiety) about something that would have triggered even more anxiety and that would drive me to face that initial source of anxiety. That looks rather aggressive.
But that gets into defense mechanisms which is really how a center of intelligence uses emotions as fuel for its specific type of action/purpose (which to me is as important to Enneagram as Cognitive Functions are to Typology.)
It is interesting you should say that. Katherine said that she spent time, energy, and money to help the 6s and 9s that mistype for years.
@@daniellthornton4218 Hello fellow Truth Teller, I am the 846. I was surprised at my 6 but it explains my uber focus on what is fair.
I smell a new series
Tritypes are very helpful. I'm a 5w4, but my tritype is 531. I always thought it was weird that my tritype didn't contain 4 since it's my wing... but, I strongly identify with 3 much more than 4 (even though I do still see some 4 flavoring in my life).
The enneagram's an amazing system. lol
I have been looking into the tritypes for a while but always thought it was your three strongest types in the test but with this information I will actually look into other combinations in the different centers that includes my core. Exciting!
Identified as an 8 immediately. But learning more about tritype and reading about 836 was like reading an autobiography.
I so get this!
I find a blend of mbti and enneagram tritype really does capture people with strong personalities. Eg ENTJ is consistently a 3w4 378 tritype on TV shows: Blair Waldorf (Gossip Girl), Rodrigo Borgias (The Borgias), Patti Hughes (Damages), Conrad Grayson (Revenge), The President & First Lady (House of Cards). Yes, I’m intrigued by this powerful type!
I’m a 385 The Solution Master! 11:28 So helpful to know! No wonder I LOVE being a coach and motivating and inspiring my clients! 💜👏🏻💜💪🏻💜
Love that!
I'm definitely a 1,4,7. I always want things to be better, the visionary but constantly frustrated by daily life. It's difficult for me to relax and just accept that in this moment, this will do, this is enough.
I came out first as 872, but it didn't resonate. Then came out as 873, which certainly resonates.
Haven't looked into it extensively.
Thanks Tom, I love how you made these concepts click for me. Can I see 27 videos coming up? 😁 🙏🥰 Keep being awesome!
As an INFP, the tritype I got seems quite "accurate", but it changes a lot depending on the different tests, and the last one I got was 6-9-4 with 6 as dominant which isn't like the typical type INFPs get, more like 4 or 9.
David and Katherine Fauvre have done extensive research on this subject along with micro expressions, visual boards and more. They have years of data. They also have a really cool test if you’re interested. It’s fascinating.
Using tritypes with order is even better.
There is more than I even imagined, and I have coaching sessions with Katherine. Tritype "Tristar" is Amazing! Her new video on how to work with the types of the Tritypes, their images, words, struggles, fears, triggers, what they hide, feel, and why is mind-blowing, etc. She also includes how to neutralize them in these new videos. It is good she made it so we can buy them individually. But I have already bought 9 of them so the set will eventually be mine. I wish I had seen this convo 9 months ago.
Thank you Tom!! I finally found more information about Tritypes. I was confused with the order but it seems that it really doesn't matter!
Gracias from a 783 - The Mover!
those that you've mentioned 714 (any combination) actually have triad names, just like you said these three are frustration types - triple frustration, or 258 - triple rejection, and different combinations are named differently, can be double frustration or double rejection too!
i think tritypes are very helpful, though they can also make people quite confused too. you can understand why people have hard time typing themselves, because their fixes (numbers besides the core type) can be quite strong. also, each number just shows how you deal with your anxiety, image and anger, i'd say. for some people, they're less concerned with their image, so their heart/image fix is mostly the last one. i really like tritypes, and yes, just like you've said they're "deeper level", and you can learn so much more from them, and can even understand why your core type looks different from others to some extent too. subtypes do that too, of course, but tritypes definitely take it to another level, because for example, social 4 with 469 vs 479 tritypes are gonna be so different, first one is likely to be more anxious and doubtful (triple anxious), while second is likely to be a little more positive (double positive).
Thank you for doing this video - I’ve recently started exploring the Tritypes, and I think this could help pull together the loose ends for me. I think I’m either a 5-4-9 or 5-4-1.
Edit: I just watched Katherine Fauvre’s videos on each of these, and they’re both relatable, but I would say I’m leaning more 5-4-9 for now. (The Contemplative/triple withdrawn. Sounds about right actually!😆)
I was about to give up on the enneagram. I'm a (countertype) 4, but I feel that I have much 7 and 9 energy. I wonder if I'm a 479? The description is highly accurate, but I will have to take the test to see. Thanks for this information!
Yes, I imagine the INFJ 9-5-2 is probably accurate. The Problem Solver...The Observer...Double Withdrawn, etc...probably so. My husband is an INTJ 1-6-2, The Supporter...The Guardian...Double Compliant.
INFJ 529 here, finally found my type after mistyped myself at first as 461 (I got confused with the wings). It fits like a glove!
@@Nikki-fx6yy Oh hi, fellow INFJ 529, The Problem Solver. It looks like Katherine Fauvre has updated her tritype definition, since when I first got that result. It now says: The Problem Solver Tritype: 259, 295, 529, 592, 925, 952 ...If you are a 259, you are caring, knowledgeable, and accepting. You want to be helpful, wise, and peaceful. You are naturally very quiet, soft-spoken, and shy, but observe and track everything going on around you. You focus on problems and enjoy tinkering and fixing things. You need companionship and avoid feelings of loneliness by focusing on the needs and concerns of others. You are the smart, reserved, and sympathetic, ‘people’ person. You can see how to fix things but struggle with inaction when overwhelmed.
Katherine Fauvre's work is great. For those interested in the topic Katherine Fauvre released in her 4.0 course videos on each tritype of 2+ hours each.
Regards,
Gladys
Thanks for sharing!
Great explanation. Makes sense. This 963 mediator has always had a hard time understanding why so many people don't seem to have common sense when it comes to deescalating conflict. I guess it comes naturally to me.
finding out my tritype was such an enlightening moment for me. 468 here
Interesting that after our coaching session today, I’m wondering if I DO have 7 in my Tritype. In school, I often got in trouble for talking and clowning around. I was actually voted “Wittiest Girl” in my senior class. At one point, I thought my dream job was to be a regular on Saturday Night Live. More recently, I actually did 2 stand up comedy open mic nights at a local tavern. Hmmmmmm Something to ponder indeed!
Interesting
Tritype is useful for people who don’t feel adequately/completely described by one type or wing. Not everyone has that problem. I typed someone who had high scores in two numbers, but her scores in the other seven were all pretty weak. She had 6 points in type 1, 5 points in type 8, and 2 points in type 9. So for her, just having two types was enough. Her second type couldn’t be her wing according to the theory though because it wasn’t right next to her primary type. I think a flaw with enneagram is the insistence on having the wing right next to the primary. and it’s another flaw that tritype numbers have to be from the head, heart, and gut regions. What if someone’s highest scores are all head types? That should be allowed but isn’t according to someone’s theory. (I happen to be a 415, 4w5. But if I had it my way, I’d say I’m a 4w1 because I’m more like a 1 than a 5.)
Thank you for sharing your insights on the tritype system and how it can help individuals who feel they don't fully fit into one type or wing. It's interesting to hear about your experience with typing someone with high scores in multiple numbers.
Finally this video!
Impressive all right! To me- immediately it’s no brainer , make 💯sense 😃
No disrespect but that’s not how you find tritype, that’s how you find trifix. Tritype is where you go when the usual methods aren’t working in stress. You have to take the test on Katherine Fauve’s website- she’s the one who discovered these. Also she has incredibly helpful you tube videos on each of the types that pegs the energy of all the types and helps you know if you tested accurately
I heard from Abbey Howe that when the strategies of your dominant type fail, you move to the strategies of your 1st sub-dominant type, and if those strategies fail you move to the strategies of your 2nd sub-dominant type. I still don't fully understand tritypes, but I'd love to learn more. Thanks for the website.
Yes, I saw Abbey in the videos I have just purchased. She has my 846 Tritype in a different order. Katherine says that we should not mistake the order or dominance as switching from one to the other. They are rapidly oscillating and repeating and operating at light speed. The Tritypes are omnipresent and in a constant state of change.
Your video came at a really good timing, I just started to get familiar with tritypes for like the day before yesterday and got really excited. 😎 I'm probably a 469 or a 459, maybe more 469, cause I don't consider myself being so hyper withdrawn (I read that the 459 is the most withdrawn type of the tritypes). It's really nice to see that you are interested to examine the tritypes also, thank you for the video!
I, too, am a 469 or a 459 :)
@@danielleardance5605 hello, fellow tritypian! Are you 4w5? Cause I am and that's why it's difficult to tell whether I'm 469 or 459.
My Tritype test says I’m the most difficult type to give an accurate Tritype. They gave me several. Literally 2-4-6-8 with a special notice lol
Yeah...that means you have the 6 in there the way I do.
It´s valid to stablish a tritype i want to be, i mean, i have made the triype test with different results, but i am young and i want to be a 358, i supposed that if i wish and i am able to work on it, i will be a 358 with no issues.
Change my mind.
I think that one might be called the "Evil Genius"
@@twlahue Nice one, at least creativity is a hell of skill
Are those guitars your material possessions that you have put on display?...Type 3.
Nope... those are my junk guitars...My good ones, (the Fenders) are in cases. My problem is gluttony... (too many guitars)
@@twlahue mostly a joke anyway, thanks for response. Started watching recently, mostly to reinforce currently held beliefs, but I found it enjoyable. I find myself asking if 2,6, and 9s are real, since they are so codependent.
I think I’m a 4-5-9.
I sometimes think I can identify with 6 though 🤔 but I’m a 4w5. Soo it’s hard to tell. But either way, 4-5-9, all withdrawn 😬
945 here.Hi
9w1 sx9 and a 926
When I first heard about Tritypes, my first thought was: this was invented by an enneagram type 4 For whom the enneagram itself was not unique enough. And now watching all the tritype 4 combinations in the comments loving the tritypes. Makes a lot of sense. 😂
Katherine is a sx 874 who loves systems.
Infp 9w1 triple withdrawn.Fuck man i defy reality.Also ppl always remark how calm and chill i am but thats not the case.Its savage war inside me
Thanks for sharing. I have 9 clients that say that! How do you look chill when there is a war?
I think I'm a 947, relate to 7 more than 4 on a regular basis but it's not stacked in relatability, right?
My tritype is 528
I'm a 163
Thanks from a 468!
@@greenery03 ...she has been so wonderful and gifted but so destroyed...I love her . My favorite song: Love is a losing game ....I'm singing this ...but Thank Jesus I know His love has safe me and won me for iternity.
Thanks from a 946 😅
same here, isn't it a struggle sometimes haha
Tritypes are a lot better than wings and instincts.
Tritypes also have wings included, you got to be deeper instead of being shallow.
@@kevinfukthezetamale4298 I haven't seen that.
My husband is an infj '
I can't define him exactly.he is type 8 as dominant type.he is 4.he is 3 .hé is 9.what lm sure about is that hé is thé strong empath hayoka.
Infj is very unlikely to be type 8. They can look like it due to upbringing.
Only estp , esfp and rarely entjs can be 8.
@MsAliensex Any type can be a Personality type but the infj is rare as an 8. If they are 8s they seem extroverted. Does he?
It’s funny how people’s precise type is based on whose specific theory you follow
Eclectic energies shows up the %centages we might be..NT stays NT'..heeheehee..5-1- and some other blas.. Remember we're the whole egeam ..4'-s have nothing in common with 7..sauf while jiggeling around in desintegration line...😁🤣🤩😄😏🥳
714, huh? Triple idealist and frustration?
Turns out I am a 7,1,2 instead.
741!
SX/SP5w4-9w8-4w5...INTJ Tripple Withdrawn...I get called an alien a lot!!