Back in the day those trucks had around 150 HP and those were the big ones , in WW2 1.5 tones 6 WD had about 115.00 HP . After the war there were major blizzards in the upper midwest in 1948 -1950 that the US military was called in for help and they came with tracked vehicals as well as transport aircraft to drop hay to the stranded livestock , the bulldozers not only cleared roads but went into the fields to cut paths for the livestock to get to the air dropped feed from the newly created USAF C 47 and C 46 transport aircraft ,at that time right after WW2 we had a lot more ability to react.
What's most important plowing is traction. Take a 1000 hp truck with 2 wheel drive and bald tires and it won't be able to plow. Now take a 140 hp Tacoma with 4 wheels and good rubber and it can plow all day
I can't imagine the damage that does to a man's body. That man would have taken 100s of low speed impact collisions per day...multiply that for a 4mth season and 10+ seasons........and lets remember this is 1940s...so that means no seatbelt, no comfy seats, no sound proof cabins, no power steering or power breaks.
@@9ZERO6 yep now everyone has a complaint, no “heat” “seats aren’t comfortable” “I’m quitting cus I’m a little bitch who’s been giving everything” is what they ought to say nowadays
Rumor has it that Charlie is still out there somewhere and that the county commissioner says he should be punching through to the main highway within the hour!
This from the region I grew up and live. Turin is 40 min from where I live. The plows made at frink in Clayton ny. That has been closed for years. Great video never seen this footage before.
When we had a snow day when i was in high school in the 60s i plowed with the towns Walter Snow Fighter.it had a big V plow and a double wing.What a beast.It got about 2 MPG but it could move some snow.They still use it on big storms.
After having a hard day with a spike in my lifelong MDD, and having to avoid RUclips suggestions of even political stuff I agree with... being suggested and clicking on this old video is a breath of fresh air. 😊 ❤️ Thank you for sharing.
Route 26 between Boonville and Turin I remember making the trip well many many times to go skiing at Snow Ridge, the snow was usually as high as the telephone wires every winter tug hill plateau common place
Not sure OSHA would have approved the county workers standing in the path of the truck plowing towards them. Lived in upstate NY for 10 years and always amazed at the equipment used to move snow. NYS Turnpike would send two trucks with side wing plows down the road clearing anything in front of them. Our village of Sweden, outside of Brockport, were masters of clearing surface streets, regardless of snowfall. You left your car in the road at your own risk. If it didn’t get buried, good chance you’d be missing a mirror or more after you dug it would. Mailboxes were another unintended victim - smarter residents would mount theirs on a pivot to hopefully swing out of the way of passing snowplows.
The mill I work at has an old FWD (four-wheel drive motor company) military truck, at one time it had a snow blower mounted to the front of it homemade and was used to clear local roads, cab is made of wood and tin, old girl is real rough these days but she was driven and park to where she sits now not too many years ago. When my grandma was alive she told me about the trucks that they had rigged up to use around Drumheller in the winter, all handmade by guys with next to no education, wish I could have seen them.
Remember this next time the weather guys on TV start spouting off "storm of a generation" or "150 year storm!" bah. People say the new trucks are better, the new trucks are better in many ways but won;t move what these old Walter or FWD trucks could. That's why they are out on the roads keeping them clear during the storms now. When the real big ones come all the back roads have to be done by the old equipment yet, the old graders with the V plow or the old FWD trucks(midwest) at least to get them open. Then the new stuff comes through and widens it out and cuts the banks back. We don;t get snow like we used to in WI. I have family pictures from way back where the banks in town were as high as the phone wire and you could only see the roof of the two story house behind them from the street. And that is fine by me! It might be "neat" to think about that type of ting but dealing with it is another story!
Thank you! I was wondering where this was all taking place. I've only seen pictures of so much snow like that (Armistice Day blizzard 1940, from the book "All Hell Broke Loose") and I live in Minnesota.
I never knew the plows and drivers had to "RAM" the banks with a "V" plow in the roadway in order to get thru some of the roadways. WOW that's a lot of "packed" snow! A "ROTARY" would have been nice I bet ya!
I don’t even want to know how many transmissions were destroyed back then. Constant back and fourth pushing all that weight then come to a dead stop. My Chevy hates it and where I’m at only get about 2 feet if we’re lucky
The issue was letting the snow get that bad in the first place why keeping your crews working until the worse of the snow passed by ..was key to keeping the roads open ..
Ayyyy yess the good old days when you could afford your rent and entire months worth of food wiskey and cigarettes on one weeks paycheck. And your job was just ramming your f150 into the snow a thousand times.
And in those days we were NOT operating at a $30 Trillion dollar debt with $200 trillion in accrued liabilities . No we were OK waiting out driving to town and most were prepared for the next storm.
Now I know why my mother always announced: "Plow's Commin'!" My dad didn't go to work those days, but he knew that announcement meant he had to go shovel the end of the drive so he could go to work the next day. We also knew it meant back to school. If the plow came, we didn't get the next day off. I remember twice in my life when we got two snow days in a row, once when I was in high school and once when my kids were in grade school. We got 5' of snow that storm. The second day, our plow driver, came down the road like these guys. He plowed off up at the corner to the other end of the road. That was about 3 blocks. About a half hour later he came flying past the house. Took the snow about 15 minutes to settle from him going through. I asked how he knew he wasn't going to go off the road when the snow is that deep. He said, I have been at it 30 years. I know where the roads are. If I don't go 50-60 miles per hour, I can't get through it. It's why all of us plow the same routes!
It’s funny how times have changed in terms of closing schools. Here in KY, they close for anything. AC out, bad rain predicted, unusually cold, etc. All will close the schools now. I grew up in the 60’s and I can remember only once having the a]schools closed for weather.
Sounds like a good paying job, sorry it doesn't involve Tiktok or some "mocha frappe latte bullshit from Starbucks" and 12 safe spaces because the white snow hurt your feelings for being White.
My grandfather bought an army surplus Half-track after WW2 and used it to plow his neighborhood in Ohio for about 20 years until it broke. Was just fun watching that thing push the snow.
@Al Fabeech Uh, that's not how any local government I've ever seen in Wisconsin works--these decisions and their financing are all local. Are you sure you're not just being a disingenuous idealogue?
Sort of. They still have a few of these trucks out east, and you can find them for sale occasionally. Stuff was built different back then, now days things are built to a price point not a function. Walter and FWD trucks are massive, overbuilt, amazing pieces of equipment. I grew up in midwest, we have more old FWD then Walter over here. The front pumkin(differential) on an old FWD truck has got to be 18" diameter or better. These trucks had lower horsepower then new trucks, but they also had big gear reduction like a tractor and lower top speeds which is why they could move so much stuff.
And at the end of the season the drivers left leg muscles were larger than the right leg muscles from pushing in the clutch in and out a hundred million times. lol
I remember seeing crews of 15+ men walking ahead of plows with shovels breaking up snow pack so plow could bust through. Also big Allis-Chalmers dozers going ahead of plows in the 50's & 60's. Seen pictures of my mother sledding off barn roofs in the 40's. Great video, thanks for posting.
The farmers in my area were responsible for the roads back then. Usually someone in the neighborhood had a horse drawn road grader. After the big blizzard in 78, they used a Case 2670 four wheel drive tractor with a dozer blade to clear the snow for the milk truck. My dad cleared our road out after that storm with our John Deere backhoe. It was a mile out to the main road.
@@mrpoizun we had a big storm in 1977 too. I don't remember that one very much but I was old enough to remember the one in 1978. There was a snow drift up to the eve of our back porch.
I have heard the farmers in South Dakota talk about this. Their motivation for clearing the roads was to get the milk to the creamery before it went bad. Dozers were kept running 24 hours a day and men working in shifts to keep them going. The biggest barrier was getting fuel. In some cases they had to rely on horses and sleighs to haul fuel into the rural areas. Winter of 68 or 69 if I remember right.
@@willythewave I was thinking about the massive snow storms they used to have in the old days. So... you know how they can do cloud seeding with tiny particles to make moisture condense and eventually fall to the ground. Well... I was wondering if the “dirtier” air of yesteryear had anything to do with those big snowstorms we had previously. The stories of big snow storms seemed to increase around the time of the industrial revolution. So... maybe all that particulate in the air caused bigger/more frequent storms. 🤔 the storms seemed to have decreased once we stopped burning so much wood and coal. 🤔 🤔 🤔
I worked at our local highway department during the blizzard of '77 in Western New York and we bucked plugged roads with an Oshkosh and v-plow with double wings just like this. I remember working two 80 hour weeks during the worst of it.
@@gumby511 Does a chimpanzee have "true grit" because they use a rock to smash open a nut? Or the human who figured out how to make a nut-cracker? Nothing wrong with working smarter, not harder.
Its a little crazy to think this was pulled from a dumpster in 78. Makes you wonder what other really cool video tapes/reels are hiding in your neighborhood landfill
I plowed with a 1950 FWD. You can take the jarring when you are young, Just make sure your hands are not in the steering wheel spokes or you were in for a injury when the wheel spun around.
I just love seeing real history and seeing people's everyday lives. Unscripted as it took place. So fascinating. Brings a sense of connection to a by gone time.
Getting ready to go out and plow the drive with our side by side, thankfully we didn't get amounts of snow anywhere near as bad as these guys were busting out. The people that did it like this back in the day got us this far today.
Great video !!!! 4:40 Nice to finally see Joe Biden there in his mid 40's FOR the 1st time in his life, actually WORKING and doing something positive for AMERICA 👍
About 1965 I had the pleasure of seeing all of the freshly maintained snow equipment roll out of the Anchorage, Alaska facility...there must have been a mile of powered plows, graders and snowblowers. Was not unusual after/during a snow storm to see a flying wedge of huge snowblowers clearing the runways at Elmendorf AFB. Now, in Wisconsin, mostly I see those big bull plows clearing the roads. In Idaho Falls, they used a conveyor system to load from the plows directly to dump trucks. The innovations have been fun to see. One thing hasn't changed though...the need to shovel out your driveway after they pass by. BTW back in the day, many places had "one track" roads as shown at the start of the video, somebody had to give way for traffic to flow.
Great video thanks for sharing this video. My snow storm happened in 1978 I was eight years old and it took the county 4 days to get us plowed out, my uncle got stuck on the farm road and they barely went past his car and he almost didn’t have a car after that. My parents had to walk a mile to the farm to milk the cows and stayed at the farm until they got through the road! They had to milk the cows only to have to dump it down the drain because the milk truck couldn’t get to us. It’s happened twice in my 52 years so far. We had pancakes every morning because my uncle was single and could barely feed himself 😂😂😂 but we survived.
The blizzard of '78. I remember being off from school because of that. I was 9 years old. My grand parents live on a one lane road around a lake in Chelsea Michigan. They got trapped for 3 days. It was common that no one stayed at their home on that lake but my grandfather thought the storm wouldn't be so bad. After two days he called the city and asked, "when are you going to plow our road?" The reply he got was "We thought everyone vacated so if you hadn't called we weren't gonna plow it at all." Well, the next day (day 3) the plow crew came through and cleared the road just for them.
@@monty4336 Oh man that’s something else, I was 8 then so we’re pretty close in age, we live on a north and south running road so when it drifts we get nailed! Luckily we have equipment that can move the snow better than in 78’ so we can manage it better but we still get nailed down. Another thing I don’t understand is the people that just go driving around to see how bad it is? I’ve pulled many dudes having country cocktails and pulled them out.😒 Another story really quick in 68’ the Michigan National bank in Battle Creek got robbed on snowmobile and they never caught the guys because nobody could get around to catch them.😂😂 Happy new year stay well.
Back then that's when people did what they had to do like help the plow by moving those chunks of snow the size of a car to help out.. Nowadays they give the middle finger to the snowplow truck as he goes by your laneway and puts a little row of snow in front of your laneway. The entitled people of the world today lol, I always say if it's so bad I'd wish there was time machine to put them in and go back to my grandparents days where everything was done by manual labour for the most part.
Born in 1946 remember dad pulling snowplow into barn with tractor welding up plow or truck frame and sending them back down the road. We still do that in Michigan the trucks are bigger and the tractors. And today every farmer can weld like a pro.🤗🇺🇸🇨🇦
As a retired plow driver,our trucks were like Cadillacs compared to the rigs these drivers used and our streets were gold compared to the roads these guys had to plow.The last 15 years I was there our trucks were automatics,no gears to shift and all your controls at your finger tips.We had it made compared to these guys.Those old V plows jarred your kidneys every time you made a hard stop pounding that snow/ice.Glad I didn’t have to do what those men had to do to clear snow.✌️👍
I was living in the panhandle of West Virginia, up in the hills of Harpers ferry, when we got about 4 ft in 2001. Regular plows couldn't deal with it alone, we were snowed in for 4 or 5 days until they came by with a bulldozer in front of a plow truck in front of a grader, each one making a slightly wider path. Took me a full day to shovel the driveway before that and then another half day after they dumped more snow from the street on it LOL.
And no seatbelts! These guys crashed into walls all day, holding on for dear life... I'm 36, and this seems like another incredible example of when men were MEN... it's hard enough up here in Montana to get anyone to be a plow driver now, the work shown in this video, you wouldn't find anyone to do this today.... Just to put it out there, I only say when men were MEN because these jobs were literally only available to men and they put their heads down and went to work... I'm not saying anything about women, I'm literally only saying these men were hard men with hard jobs no one would ask for but they did it to make a better place for their families and their neighbors
my great uncle used to talk about walking to school and being able to through snow ball DOWN at the cars cause the banks were taller then the roofs of the cars.
We used 6 wheel drive graders with chains and the snow drifts were over the hydro wires here in Sothern Ontario before the snowbelt moved 100 miles north.
Lack of decent lighting to plow constantly during night storms? Trying to think of the reason why they didn’t keep up w a storm instead of waiting until the storm ended.
Those plow mounts and associated brackets must be hooked directly to the frame of the truck, the force of a 40,000 pound truck ramming snow like this must be insane!!!
That is a good old video Ed...geez you know I can remember snow drifts similar and old plow would take most of the day to go about 1/2 mile and that was on #10 North of Mafeking.. then a good old Northwester would blow up and fill the sucker right back in again lol... thanks for the share.. will pass it around.. Jack
Thank you for the memories, I was part of the cdn military snow and ice control over a number of years on 12 hrs shifts. Long and hard especially during a multiple day storm. I’m glad we had the stuff they drive around to day. Only thing I didn’t like was when our crew chief decided to go on 8 hr shifts. Those really messed with our inner clocks. But all said I was particularly proud of our work clearing up streets, parking lots and airfields.
That's brutally hard on those poor trucks... and it's why so much of the snow belt migrated to giant snowblowers, which make this job much, much easier. Also... the cars behind that fast-moving plow could not possibly have been "waiting to get out". That plow would have perfectly sealed the driveways on both sides of that road.
8.5 yrs later the algorithm brought us here.
And I'm not disappointed, lol. Finally something recommended that I actually was interested in.
Same and this is great!
@@george8873 yes, RUclips just isn’t the same anymore. It’s like having cable. 500 channels of nothing to watch........most of the time.
Back in the day those trucks had around 150 HP and those were the big ones , in WW2 1.5 tones 6 WD had about 115.00 HP . After the war there were major blizzards in the upper midwest in 1948 -1950 that the US military was called in for help and they came with tracked vehicals as well as transport aircraft to drop hay to the stranded livestock , the bulldozers not only cleared roads but went into the fields to cut paths for the livestock to get to the air dropped feed from the newly created USAF C 47 and C 46 transport aircraft ,at that time right after WW2 we had a lot more ability to react.
With 900 lb torque
Back then we airdropped food to feed our livestock, nowadays our administration can't even keep baby humans fed
The Hall- Scott engines had more power then that.
What's most important plowing is traction. Take a 1000 hp truck with 2 wheel drive and bald tires and it won't be able to plow. Now take a 140 hp Tacoma with 4 wheels and good rubber and it can plow all day
Thank you for sharing!
I can't imagine the damage that does to a man's body. That man would have taken 100s of low speed impact collisions per day...multiply that for a 4mth season and 10+ seasons........and lets remember this is 1940s...so that means no seatbelt, no comfy seats, no sound proof cabins, no power steering or power breaks.
Definitely a couple concussions
…….. and probably NO HEAT!
@@battlejack1863 Sure there was! It was called smoking cigarettes and wearing layers!
When men were men.
@@9ZERO6 yep now everyone has a complaint, no “heat” “seats aren’t comfortable” “I’m quitting cus I’m a little bitch who’s been giving everything” is what they ought to say nowadays
Rumor has it that Charlie is still out there somewhere and that the county commissioner says he should be punching through to the main highway within the hour!
I read this before the city commissioner came out to inspect the work and laughed at how bizarre things were then
hahaha
Poor Charlie, hope he's got a big thermos of coffee in there!
This from the region I grew up and live. Turin is 40 min from where I live. The plows made at frink in Clayton ny. That has been closed for years. Great video never seen this footage before.
At our work, we would watch this movie almost every year. The version we had was titled
“Tug Hill”.
When we had a snow day when i was in high school in the 60s i plowed with the towns Walter Snow Fighter.it had a big V plow and a double wing.What a beast.It got about 2 MPG but it could move some snow.They still use it on big storms.
After having a hard day with a spike in my lifelong MDD, and having to avoid RUclips suggestions of even political stuff I agree with... being suggested and clicking on this old video is a breath of fresh air. 😊
❤️ Thank you for sharing.
Route 26 between Boonville and Turin I remember making the trip well many many times to go skiing at Snow Ridge, the snow was usually as high as the telephone wires every winter tug hill plateau common place
Yes....that's always tough going . It's unbelievable how much snow you guys get.
Get ready, its coming back!
Not sure OSHA would have approved the county workers standing in the path of the truck plowing towards them. Lived in upstate NY for 10 years and always amazed at the equipment used to move snow. NYS Turnpike would send two trucks with side wing plows down the road clearing anything in front of them. Our village of Sweden, outside of Brockport, were masters of clearing surface streets, regardless of snowfall. You left your car in the road at your own risk. If it didn’t get buried, good chance you’d be missing a mirror or more after you dug it would. Mailboxes were another unintended victim - smarter residents would mount theirs on a pivot to hopefully swing out of the way of passing snowplows.
The mill I work at has an old FWD (four-wheel drive motor company) military truck, at one time it had a snow blower mounted to the front of it homemade and was used to clear local roads, cab is made of wood and tin, old girl is real rough these days but she was driven and park to where she sits now not too many years ago. When my grandma was alive she told me about the trucks that they had rigged up to use around Drumheller in the winter, all handmade by guys with next to no education, wish I could have seen them.
That was tough work on man
and machine alike, ramming
snow like that.
No power steering, manual transmissions. Manual brakes too.
@@frez777 the did have hydraulic brakes, big drum brakes..
Remember this next time the weather guys on TV start spouting off "storm of a generation" or "150 year storm!"
bah.
People say the new trucks are better, the new trucks are better in many ways but won;t move what these old Walter or FWD trucks could. That's why they are out on the roads keeping them clear during the storms now. When the real big ones come all the back roads have to be done by the old equipment yet, the old graders with the V plow or the old FWD trucks(midwest) at least to get them open. Then the new stuff comes through and widens it out and cuts the banks back.
We don;t get snow like we used to in WI. I have family pictures from way back where the banks in town were as high as the phone wire and you could only see the roof of the two story house behind them from the street. And that is fine by me! It might be "neat" to think about that type of ting but dealing with it is another story!
Ah...the good old days when the snow was real, the plows were real, and photoshopping was not invented yet.
Love it. Our highway boys see drifts half this size they are calling in machinery to get through it. They don’t even try anymore
I don’t think people realize how the snow comes down on the Tug Hill plateau where this was filmed. It’s a different beast
Thank you! I was wondering where this was all taking place. I've only seen pictures of so much snow like that (Armistice Day blizzard 1940, from the book "All Hell Broke Loose") and I live in Minnesota.
Thank you for the upload.
I never knew the plows and drivers had to "RAM" the banks with a "V" plow in the roadway in order to get thru some of the roadways. WOW that's a lot of "packed" snow! A "ROTARY" would have been nice I bet ya!
My goodness me! What a pure joy! ❤️❤️
Shoveling the end of your driveway back then took more lives than WW2
Hoooooly shit that drivetrain took a beating!
I don’t even want to know how many transmissions were destroyed back then. Constant back and fourth pushing all that weight then come to a dead stop. My Chevy hates it and where I’m at only get about 2 feet if we’re lucky
The issue was letting the snow get that bad in the first place why keeping your crews working until the worse of the snow passed by ..was key to keeping the roads open ..
Ayyyy yess the good old days when you could afford your rent and entire months worth of food wiskey and cigarettes on one weeks paycheck. And your job was just ramming your f150 into the snow a thousand times.
If they were out clearing the roads as it snowed during the night this wouldn't be such a big project during the day.
Ahh, nothing like high-resolution film being downconverted to low-resolution 360p video. Sad
Just the brute strength of it...
Amazing!!!
It must have been hard on the vehicles and the body , ramming it this way.
I wonder if they enjoyed taking out mail boxes like they do now. I lose one every damn winter
Crazy they probably had life long neck and back problems.
Where?
This is an amazing insight!!!!
This is the sort of video that I come to RUclips for. Nondescript, copy of a copy, vintage stuff like this is a real treat.
I am guilty of watching too MST3K and Rifftrax, I am expecting a bunch of comments and jokes.
Either way, I appreciate the video.
Old RUclips
Check out the RUclips channel “Periscope Films”
1000% agree. These really are the best, grainy views of history captured on real potatoes of yore.
🧢🧢
Over the years. we learned to get the plows out during the storm, not after the storm, so the build up wasn't so sever.
@Robert Hall I agree.
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@@dbfcrell8300 No, people can’t just stay at home for a few days now. They need everything done and they need it now.
@@mikeznel6048 you missed their point entirely
And in those days we were NOT operating at a $30 Trillion dollar debt with $200 trillion in accrued liabilities . No we were OK waiting out driving to town and most were prepared for the next storm.
Now I know why my mother always announced: "Plow's Commin'!" My dad didn't go to work those days, but he knew that announcement meant he had to go shovel the end of the drive so he could go to work the next day. We also knew it meant back to school. If the plow came, we didn't get the next day off. I remember twice in my life when we got two snow days in a row, once when I was in high school and once when my kids were in grade school. We got 5' of snow that storm. The second day, our plow driver, came down the road like these guys. He plowed off up at the corner to the other end of the road. That was about 3 blocks. About a half hour later he came flying past the house. Took the snow about 15 minutes to settle from him going through. I asked how he knew he wasn't going to go off the road when the snow is that deep. He said, I have been at it 30 years. I know where the roads are. If I don't go 50-60 miles per hour, I can't get through it. It's why all of us plow the same routes!
It’s funny how times have changed in terms of closing schools. Here in KY, they close for anything. AC out, bad rain predicted, unusually cold, etc. All will close the schools now. I grew up in the 60’s and I can remember only once having the a]schools closed for weather.
@@SMaamri78 and now they do online school on off days with no time to go play in the snow
I know exactly what your talking about.. I grew up in Maine.. what state for you??
I’ve gotten a week of before
I remember this exactly almost in upstate New York, Albany as a kid
OMG can you imagine working a 12 hour shift ramming snow back and forth ?
Yes my kidneys hurt just watching him, sadly been there done that 😁
Brain famagr
Frank damsge
Frain danage
@@rollinsomethingbutiforgot Me frian meh bamage? ohh no...
Yeah...with open headers in front of you and no cats! Wow. The smell all day alone would knock you out.
Sounds like a good paying job, sorry it doesn't involve Tiktok or some "mocha frappe latte bullshit from Starbucks" and 12 safe spaces because the white snow hurt your feelings for being White.
Sounds like the narrator is the same guy who did all the old railroad videos for Sunday River Productions. Good stuff!
First thing I thought of was the narrator for the original Endless Summer.
Good stuff!
@sdunlimited1sdunlimited169 Same thing...has to be Bruce Brown.
My grandfather bought an army surplus Half-track after WW2 and used it to plow his neighborhood in Ohio for about 20 years until it broke. Was just fun watching that thing push the snow.
@Al Fabeech Uh, that's not how any local government I've ever seen in Wisconsin works--these decisions and their financing are all local. Are you sure you're not just being a disingenuous idealogue?
@@alfabeech life is a lot better if you don’t try to force politics into everything. Give it a go.
@@patty109109 yeah life is a lot better when you stick your head in the sand
That was some serious deep snow. The repeated ramming of that hard=packed snow had to be murder on the machines.
And the driver.
@@jenette16 Repeated crash...no seat belts
Must of had beefy transmission.
Sort of. They still have a few of these trucks out east, and you can find them for sale occasionally. Stuff was built different back then, now days things are built to a price point not a function.
Walter and FWD trucks are massive, overbuilt, amazing pieces of equipment. I grew up in midwest, we have more old FWD then Walter over here. The front pumkin(differential) on an old FWD truck has got to be 18" diameter or better. These trucks had lower horsepower then new trucks, but they also had big gear reduction like a tractor and lower top speeds which is why they could move so much stuff.
@@davenhla and the drivers died early of concussions
And at the end of the season the drivers left leg muscles were larger than the right leg muscles from pushing in the clutch in and out a hundred million times. lol
Ol Charley could kick like a mule.
And the sciatic pain was probably immense
I remember seeing crews of 15+ men walking ahead of plows with shovels breaking up snow pack so plow could bust through. Also big Allis-Chalmers dozers going ahead of plows in the 50's & 60's. Seen pictures of my mother sledding off barn roofs in the 40's. Great video, thanks for posting.
Outstanding
The farmers in my area were responsible for the roads back then. Usually someone in the neighborhood had a horse drawn road grader. After the big blizzard in 78, they used a Case 2670 four wheel drive tractor with a dozer blade to clear the snow for the milk truck. My dad cleared our road out after that storm with our John Deere backhoe. It was a mile out to the main road.
1978??? Where did you live??
@@mrpoizun southeast Michigan.
@@mrpoizun we had a big storm in 1977 too. I don't remember that one very much but I was old enough to remember the one in 1978. There was a snow drift up to the eve of our back porch.
I live there too was there actually big snowstorms back then. We barely get more than a couple inches now
I have heard the farmers in South Dakota talk about this. Their motivation for clearing the roads was to get the milk to the creamery before it went bad. Dozers were kept running 24 hours a day and men working in shifts to keep them going. The biggest barrier was getting fuel. In some cases they had to rely on horses and sleighs to haul fuel into the rural areas. Winter of 68 or 69 if I remember right.
I can remember when the snow was so high in upstate NY, that you could almost touch the power lines. That was in the seventies and eighties
@@willythewave just like Al gore speaking about global warming, when he lives in a mansion.
@@willythewave I was thinking about the massive snow storms they used to have in the old days. So... you know how they can do cloud seeding with tiny particles to make moisture condense and eventually fall to the ground. Well... I was wondering if the “dirtier” air of yesteryear had anything to do with those big snowstorms we had previously. The stories of big snow storms seemed to increase around the time of the industrial revolution. So... maybe all that particulate in the air caused bigger/more frequent storms. 🤔 the storms seemed to have decreased once we stopped burning so much wood and coal. 🤔 🤔 🤔
I worked at our local highway department during the blizzard of '77 in Western New York and we bucked plugged roads with an Oshkosh and v-plow with double wings just like this. I remember working two 80 hour weeks during the worst of it.
My father in lay had pictures of Oswego, NY from the winter of 76/77, snow was about 3 feet below the power lines.
The town of Verona. Still had one of those plows out front of the town barn on Germany road.
Getting harder and harder to find people with the true grit these ol boys had.
Technology has made it so the machines do the hard work and we just operate then for 35hrs straight.
Brute force over brains. I am happy that most of us are smarter now.
@@gumby511 Does a chimpanzee have "true grit" because they use a rock to smash open a nut? Or the human who figured out how to make a nut-cracker? Nothing wrong with working smarter, not harder.
@@gumby511 As a country boy...I'm totally fine with that. More time to do other stuff like play with the kids and stuff.
My Grandpa was one of 'em!
Glad I clicked, this is incredible footage...... *GO CHARLIE !!*
I've worked on trucks like that and a lot larger. Yellowstone still has a Walters plow, with the wings down and spread it is 24 feet across.
That Walter is my favorite of the Y’stone Spring plowing fleet. Such a cool old truck and still in use today.
You guys need to film it and show it to us!
@@oldblueaccord2629 Next time I’m in the area, I’ll poke around and see if I can find where they’ve stashed it for the Winter.
Its a little crazy to think this was pulled from a dumpster in 78. Makes you wonder what other really cool video tapes/reels are hiding in your neighborhood landfill
Now, imagine how much longer it took to plow snow in 1839
I was thinking the same thing. How did they manage before automobiles.
@@monty4336 🧹
They went on top of the snow instead with sleighs or didn't go
I plowed with a 1950 FWD. You can take the jarring when you are young, Just make sure your hands are not in the steering wheel spokes or you were in for a injury when the wheel spun around.
I just love seeing real history and seeing people's everyday lives. Unscripted as it took place. So fascinating. Brings a sense of connection to a by gone time.
Anyone think this is so much better than pandemic or politics??
Getting ready to go out and plow the drive with our side by side, thankfully we didn't get amounts of snow anywhere near as bad as these guys were busting out.
The people that did it like this back in the day got us this far today.
5:55 is why mailboxes were big sellers in the spring.
Great video !!!! 4:40 Nice to finally see Joe Biden there in his mid 40's FOR the 1st time in his life, actually WORKING and doing something positive for AMERICA 👍
About 1965 I had the pleasure of seeing all of the freshly maintained snow equipment roll out of the Anchorage, Alaska facility...there must have been a mile of powered plows, graders and snowblowers. Was not unusual after/during a snow storm to see a flying wedge of huge snowblowers clearing the runways at Elmendorf AFB. Now, in Wisconsin, mostly I see those big bull plows clearing the roads. In Idaho Falls, they used a conveyor system to load from the plows directly to dump trucks. The innovations have been fun to see. One thing hasn't changed though...the need to shovel out your driveway after they pass by. BTW back in the day, many places had "one track" roads as shown at the start of the video, somebody had to give way for traffic to flow.
Bet those trucks were run through by the time they reached the end of their service life.......😮
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Ahh Shucks, I figured they were using them big, bad, most powerful AC dozers just pushing snow, ice and farmers trucks out of the roadway.
Still used into the 1990, on occasion, around here, Less than 50 miles from where this footage was made.
That's how everything was back then.
Great video thanks for sharing this video.
My snow storm happened in 1978 I was eight years old and it took the county 4 days to get us plowed out, my uncle got stuck on the farm road and they barely went past his car and he almost didn’t have a car after that.
My parents had to walk a mile to the farm to milk the cows and stayed at the farm until they got through the road! They had to milk the cows only to have to dump it down the drain because the milk truck couldn’t get to us.
It’s happened twice in my 52 years so far.
We had pancakes every morning because my uncle was single and could barely feed himself 😂😂😂 but we survived.
The blizzard of '78. I remember being off from school because of that. I was 9 years old. My grand parents live on a one lane road around a lake in Chelsea Michigan. They got trapped for 3 days. It was common that no one stayed at their home on that lake but my grandfather thought the storm wouldn't be so bad. After two days he called the city and asked, "when are you going to plow our road?" The reply he got was "We thought everyone vacated so if you hadn't called we weren't gonna plow it at all." Well, the next day (day 3) the plow crew came through and cleared the road just for them.
@@monty4336
Oh man that’s something else, I was 8 then so we’re pretty close in age, we live on a north and south running road so when it drifts we get nailed! Luckily we have equipment that can move the snow better than in 78’ so we can manage it better but we still get nailed down.
Another thing I don’t understand is the people that just go driving around to see how bad it is? I’ve pulled many dudes having country cocktails and pulled them out.😒
Another story really quick in 68’ the Michigan National bank in Battle Creek got robbed on snowmobile and they never caught the guys because nobody could get around to catch them.😂😂
Happy new year stay well.
150 horsepower, 2 liter...that's like strapping a plow to a honda civic 😂
I think he meant 2 liter per cylinder? Not sure but no way was the engine 2 liter total.
2 liters per cylinder. 150hp and enough torque to drag a hundred Hondas to the scrap yard. XD
I'm surprised they used metric back then
So I wonder how many ppl got hit by standing in front of the plow truck when it finally broke through the hardpack
That's what I was thinking. Lol
Back then that's when people did what they had to do like help the plow by moving those chunks of snow the size of a car to help out..
Nowadays they give the middle finger to the snowplow truck as he goes by your laneway and puts a little row of snow in front of your laneway. The entitled people of the world today lol, I always say if it's so bad I'd wish there was time machine to put them in and go back to my grandparents days where everything was done by manual labour for the most part.
Man, I wish we could have a nice winter storm like that.
move to Buffalo you'll get some.
Fisher plough motto :
Always plough with the storm.
Born in 1946 remember dad pulling snowplow into barn with tractor welding up plow or truck frame and sending them back down the road. We still do that in Michigan the trucks are bigger and the tractors. And today every farmer can weld like a pro.🤗🇺🇸🇨🇦
As a retired plow driver,our trucks were like Cadillacs compared to the rigs these drivers used and our streets were gold compared to the roads these guys had to plow.The last 15 years I was there our trucks were automatics,no gears to shift and all your controls at your finger tips.We had it made compared to these guys.Those old V plows jarred your kidneys every time you made a hard stop pounding that snow/ice.Glad I didn’t have to do what those men had to do to clear snow.✌️👍
Not to far from where I live in upstate n.y. only bout 6 mi away to turin....😀🎄🎅
That has got to be murder on the suspension & drivetrain..... bet they had lots of practice repairing busted trucks
Under powered and overbuilt.
@@shelbyoffrink4424 150 hp diesel but I bet the torque was incredible
The trucks were built better, more robust.
Watching this and also classic NFL games makes me think... There used to be a lot more snow!!!
I love how Joe pera nails this style of commentary perfectly. Relaxing and entertaining
is this joe pera? im confused about the narration matching the video??
It's not Joe Pera.
I was living in the panhandle of West Virginia, up in the hills of Harpers ferry, when we got about 4 ft in 2001. Regular plows couldn't deal with it alone, we were snowed in for 4 or 5 days until they came by with a bulldozer in front of a plow truck in front of a grader, each one making a slightly wider path. Took me a full day to shovel the driveway before that and then another half day after they dumped more snow from the street on it LOL.
83 years ago . I bet one or two of those guys are still alive
I was in Dutch Harbor Alaska one winter and they had a road grader running 24/7. You gotta catch it before it gets too high or your out of luck.
Yes, _you're_ out of luck. 🙄
And no seatbelts! These guys crashed into walls all day, holding on for dear life... I'm 36, and this seems like another incredible example of when men were MEN... it's hard enough up here in Montana to get anyone to be a plow driver now, the work shown in this video, you wouldn't find anyone to do this today.... Just to put it out there, I only say when men were MEN because these jobs were literally only available to men and they put their heads down and went to work... I'm not saying anything about women, I'm literally only saying these men were hard men with hard jobs no one would ask for but they did it to make a better place for their families and their neighbors
my great uncle used to talk about walking to school and being able to through snow ball DOWN at the cars cause the banks were taller then the roofs of the cars.
Common up north.
Well it was in Alma, MI. Pretty far south for such a snow:)
We used 6 wheel drive graders with chains and the snow drifts were over the hydro wires here in Sothern Ontario before the snowbelt moved 100 miles north.
Where? In Collingwood we don't get much snow anymore.
Nice! I really enjoyed this, thanks!
You can tell that they only plowed the roads when it was done snowing...unlike today as once it starts they are out in full force...
Lack of decent lighting to plow constantly during night storms? Trying to think of the reason why they didn’t keep up w a storm instead of waiting until the storm ended.
AND NOBODY BITCHED AND COMPLAINED...
I'm 40. This is wild to see!!!!! Thx for posting!!
I used to represent Walter's and Frink in Alaska many decades ago. Oshkosh, Western Star and International too
Love these old video's! Great video and channel 👍😁🇨🇦
Then they found out about snow fences.
My father plowed the roads in Ontario Canada for 20 years.
Wow I guess dad was right about having to walk to school 5 miles through 6ft of snow. 😂
This is a gem of a video. Thanks for posting
Those plow mounts and associated brackets must be hooked directly to the frame of the truck, the force of a 40,000 pound truck ramming snow like this must be insane!!!
Your kidneys feel every bump and hard stop you make.Its a long day and night pounding hard pack.
In eastern wi the used four wheel drive oshkosh plows and you could hear them growling down the troad
Southern music in a video about a northern film!
How many mailboxes were destroyed to make this video
Ah the good ole days Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
That is a good old video Ed...geez you know I can remember snow drifts similar and old plow would take most of the day to go about 1/2 mile and that was on #10 North of Mafeking.. then a good old Northwester would blow up and fill the sucker right back in again lol... thanks for the share.. will pass it around..
Jack
Super!!
one guy to drive, 6 guys to stand and watch. state work hasnt changed a bit
Plowing snow in Finland was very different at this time..
Was it more efficient?
Men of iron pitting themselves against the might of nature.
Charlie must have a dent in his belly from the steering wheel
As tough as life was back then I’d of like to have lived it.
Thank you for the memories, I was part of the cdn military snow and ice control over a number of years on 12 hrs shifts. Long and hard especially during a multiple day storm. I’m glad we had the stuff they drive around to day. Only thing I didn’t like was when our crew chief decided to go on 8 hr shifts. Those really messed with our inner clocks. But all said I was particularly proud of our work clearing up streets, parking lots and airfields.
Good old days my arse !!!
Well, some of us were enjoying ourselves.
That's brutally hard on those poor trucks... and it's why so much of the snow belt migrated to giant snowblowers, which make this job much, much easier.
Also... the cars behind that fast-moving plow could not possibly have been "waiting to get out". That plow would have perfectly sealed the driveways on both sides of that road.
That is insane. Thanks for the footage.