Salvage Germanium Fuzz Face from Vintage PCBs!

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  • Опубликовано: 4 дек 2021
  • Hey all, Joe from Gray Bench Electronics here.
    Let's build a fuzz face with parts salvaged from vintage PCBs!
    Watch until the end for a sound sample.
    P.S you can own this one-of-a-kind build! Check my Reverb store below:
    reverb.com/item/47592037
    PedalPCB protoboard: www.pedalpcb.com/product/prot...

Комментарии • 66

  • @chichili5ways
    @chichili5ways 3 месяца назад +2

    Man the traces on those old pcbs are beautiful.

  • @soniclab3410
    @soniclab3410 2 месяца назад +1

    Salvage is great fun!

  • @c.c.effects
    @c.c.effects 11 месяцев назад +4

    0.55V on Q1 and 5V on Q2 should have given a more mellow, smooth sound at the end in that hfe range. I personality prefer to set Q2's collector between 5 and 5.3V with germanium transistors with around 100Hfe. 4,5V is best for smaller Hfe like Q1 around 50 and Q2 : 80/90. That's very subjective of course but that's my personal tastes, I like to let a Fuzz Face « breathe » a little. It also gives a better clean up with more dynamics.
    For silicium versions (BC108C, BC109C, BC183…) : 1.4V on Q1 and 5.6V on Q2 for a glassy clean up and not too much compressed distorsion at full volume on the guitar.
    Your videos are excellent by the way ! Thanks.

  • @TheAaron3dg
    @TheAaron3dg 2 года назад +3

    Great content! Instantly subscribed

  • @drumbyte
    @drumbyte Год назад

    Beautiful job!

  • @peterb7435
    @peterb7435 2 года назад

    Excellent vid. Thanks!

  • @67er_matze97
    @67er_matze97 Год назад

    fantastic video !!!
    ...and glorious sounds at the end 👍

  • @russianvideovlogguy
    @russianvideovlogguy Год назад

    this is such a great idea

  • @dazzlenconfused
    @dazzlenconfused Год назад

    Awesome video and more impressive breadboard setup

  • @hddbugg
    @hddbugg Год назад +1

    I've been watching your videos and recently bought a couple very similar boards before seeing this video! Cool!

  • @lorenzobiagi5200
    @lorenzobiagi5200 Год назад

    that's the coolest diy fuzz pedal build ever, let alone the pedal sounding amazing! you sir are a hell of a pedal builder!

  • @stoneysdead689
    @stoneysdead689 Год назад +1

    You and I need to talk- my uncle was an electronics repairmen during the 70s and 80s and he collected old PCB boards to get precious metals from- only removing certain components that contained whatever he was looking for. Then he tossed the boards into a pile where they've sat to this day. He also collected any electronic device he could get his hands on- which turned out to be a ton of stuff. He has an old house trailer literally packed with all this stuff- everything from old gaming consoles, computers, to adding machines, VCRs, testing equipment, etc., etc- if it had electronic technology in it, he would take it and chunk it in his collection. Over the years ppl learned he would take old electronics so they started bringing him stuff. He even has old medical equipment in there- stuff hospitals would've used.
    Needless to say- he never got any precious metals out of any of it- if he did it was so little it didn't matter. But he still has all that stuff, and tons of it is from the 60s and 70s. I've robbed a few tubes off him over the years, but he still has a pretty good size collection of them- mostly form TVs and stereos. And unfortunately, he's older now and unable to do anything with any of it. Not in the best health to be honest. I need to get with him and go through the stuff- pull out what might be useful- and holler at someone like yourself. Really though- I don't know what all might be useful- someone like you needs to come go through it- I'm pretty sure you would find some real gems in there. No idea where you're located but I'm in North Alabama- which is also unfortunate, but that's a different conversation.

    • @objectiveobserver2792
      @objectiveobserver2792 Год назад

      I'm in Birmingham, maybe I could get a few boards. I am not looking to cash in. Just to do some projects like this one.

    • @stoneysdead689
      @stoneysdead689 Год назад +1

      @@objectiveobserver2792 My uncle who has the stuff lives in Jasper- not far from you. I'm about two hours from B'ham on the MIss. state line. I need to get in touch with him and make sure he's still got all of it and wants to get rid of it. I haven't talked to him in several years. If I know him though- it's all still sitting out there waiting for someone to do something with it. I'll holler at him and let you know.

    • @MrMe4444444
      @MrMe4444444 Год назад

      Old tube tv are collectable to some. Some old tube stuff if not worthwhile might have trasformers that could benrepurposed. I have used old tv power transformers for tube amps

    • @hddbugg
      @hddbugg Год назад

      ​@@stoneysdead689 interested

    • @stoneysdead689
      @stoneysdead689 Год назад

      @@hddbugg Unfortunately it's no longer there- I got a hold of my uncle and he said his kids already took it all. Sorry- I was rather disappointed myself.

  • @darkj3di336
    @darkj3di336 Год назад

    I’ve tons of old 50’s-70’s boards. Glad I saved a bunch.

  • @latergarside-244
    @latergarside-244 9 месяцев назад

    So cool man

  • @geezberry8889
    @geezberry8889 Год назад +1

    fascinating stuff. i recommend NTE de-solder braid

  • @tylerkrug7719
    @tylerkrug7719 Год назад +1

    When you said simple circuit, you weren't kidding.

  • @andromedusmoat9608
    @andromedusmoat9608 2 года назад +1

    Best channel on YT

  • @danmillward8595
    @danmillward8595 2 года назад

    Great video thanks

  • @SameAsAnyOtherStranger
    @SameAsAnyOtherStranger Год назад

    I desolder boards by melting the solder on the pad and smacking the board on my bench. This removes enough solder for me to be able to hold resistors or diodes with my fingers and melt the little bit of remaining solder fast enough to not burn my fingers.
    "Icky Thump" is a good demo song for a fuzz.

  • @tylerkrug7719
    @tylerkrug7719 Год назад

    Awesome!

  • @Marceloriighiii
    @Marceloriighiii 2 года назад +4

    Thanks for the video, pretty cool build, I think this is the best video about fuzz face build on youtube, I'm using 47k for q1 and unknown trimpot on q2 on my npn fuzz face, but sounds much cleaner than yours ...

  • @gregmize01
    @gregmize01 Год назад

    Nice!

  • @mickeythompson9537
    @mickeythompson9537 Год назад +1

    5:40 - I'd want to make a fuzz with those top hat diodes!

  • @tomvarley4344
    @tomvarley4344 Год назад

    The transistors being so close together could short as the cans are normally connected to the collector leg, one or both cans need to be insulated.

    • @graybenchelec
      @graybenchelec  Год назад

      Good tip! In this instance the transistor cans are isolated. :)

  • @DiyguitarpedalsAu
    @DiyguitarpedalsAu 2 года назад +12

    Nice build! It's getting harder to find those NPN Germaniums.

    • @danmillward8595
      @danmillward8595 2 года назад +1

      Thanks for your videos too

    • @SameAsAnyOtherStranger
      @SameAsAnyOtherStranger Год назад

      ​@@danmillward8595 thank you for thanking him and helping me find another pedal building channel.

  • @sgtrutters5892
    @sgtrutters5892 2 года назад +1

    Cool build! But I have yet to find the area on ebay you found these boards! 😆

    • @graybenchelec
      @graybenchelec  2 года назад +2

      I have a saved search under "vintage electronics" category :)

  • @DefconMaster
    @DefconMaster 2 года назад +1

    What a neat project idea! As great as carefully planned projects with painstakingly sourced parts are, nothing beats the character of a good junkbox build! Bold move to not include a DC jack, but I suppose the originals didn't use one either. About the only thing that would make this better is if the enclosure was also from some old piece of equipment. Anyway, great work!

  • @thomaswilhelm3384
    @thomaswilhelm3384 2 года назад +1

    I noticed that some of the PCBs have solid gold alloy connectors on them. One of them looks the same as used for miller welders and aviation. If it is, then it is a $500.00 part.

    • @graybenchelec
      @graybenchelec  2 года назад +1

      Interesting, guess I'll have to look into that. Thanks!

    • @max_destro
      @max_destro Год назад

      @@graybenchelec How did this pan out, I'm so curious!

  • @rockitlikeawolf
    @rockitlikeawolf 2 года назад +1

    awesome.
    what did you use to shield the underside of the board?
    also, i think your music selections are pretty funny. haha

    • @graybenchelec
      @graybenchelec  2 года назад +3

      Double-stick foam tape. Both elevates the board to keep from shorting and secures it during transport.

    • @xderiwx
      @xderiwx Год назад

      Any chance you have a link to this double sided foam tape?
      Thanks!

    • @johnmahoney5393
      @johnmahoney5393 Год назад

      @@xderiwxFoam weatherstripping is an option, like a roll of 1/2” foam tape

  • @Jah_Rastafari_ORIG
    @Jah_Rastafari_ORIG Год назад

    Some of those look like Motorola Micor (or MSR2000) repeater control cards. No metal card handles on any of them..?

  • @lucasjosel4802
    @lucasjosel4802 Год назад

    Professor pq tem ter 2 transistores?

  • @zelimamata
    @zelimamata 2 года назад

    The guy who sold my AC 125s said modern devices can't really measure Ge transistors, do you agree with him?

    • @graybenchelec
      @graybenchelec  2 года назад +2

      Yes and no. Germanium transistors have leakage, which is an esoteric topic in transistor testing now that we have widespread silicon transistors. Digital multimeters do not account for leakage current, and so will give inaccurate readings.
      The DCA75 (a modern device) I use in this video however DOES account for leakage, and so I consider the test more reliable. To be fair, the DCA75 tests at a relatively high current (5mA), which isn't ideal for the context of guitar pedals.
      You can easily build a germ tester, R.G.Keen showed us the way 22 years ago: www.geofex.com/article_folders/ffselect.htm

    • @mathieujacquet4090
      @mathieujacquet4090 2 года назад

      Cheap chinese component testers measure leakage too, but trimpots / real pots are the way to go to bias the transistors properly, and they'll almost all sound good. Different, but good nevertheless!

  • @jasonmorgan661
    @jasonmorgan661 Год назад

    Your collecting all the germanium you can find so you can phoooone hoooome !👽
    Or teleport to McDonalds or something

  • @danstiurca7963
    @danstiurca7963 Год назад

    It's funny how an absolutely terrible amplifier circuit is actually so awesome at making interesting music.

  • @the-np4mr
    @the-np4mr Год назад

    Cool, but man. Put a 9v on it lmao

    • @graybenchelec
      @graybenchelec  Год назад

      That's fair. A battery, as long as you remove the input jack, will last years in this pedal, but I hear you.

  • @jameselliano1203
    @jameselliano1203 Год назад

    all that time and it sounds that bad. Horrible actually.

  • @wibblegorm
    @wibblegorm 2 года назад +2

    TFW you build an NOS fuzz face then ruin the TONE by using an Amazon basics battery, smdh

    • @electronicguy4550
      @electronicguy4550 2 года назад

      The battery wont affect it.

    • @AndreaAustoni
      @AndreaAustoni Год назад

      @@electronicguy4550 A carbon zinc battery sounds different than an alkaline, though not everyone hears the difference,

    • @AndreaAustoni
      @AndreaAustoni Год назад

      cheap batteries are the way to go with fuzzes

    • @woosix7735
      @woosix7735 Год назад +2

      Not really NOS, it’s salvaged parts. Also it sounds perfectly fine

  • @almostliterally593
    @almostliterally593 Год назад

    Make an MXR Diſtortion Plus & a Marſhall in a box type pedal in þe ſame encloſure.