Recognize This ‘Squid Game’ Voice? Behind Netflix’s Global Dubbing Strategy | WSJ
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- More Netflix viewers watched dubbed versions of the South Korean drama “Squid Game” than subtitled versions. WSJ met one of the show’s English-language voice actors to see how dubbing foreign content is fueling the streaming giant’s growth. Photo Illustration: Sharon Shi
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The biggest issue with the dubbing on Squid Game wasn’t the performance, it was the mixing. It sounded like ADR that had just been layered on top of the original mix, rather than actually balanced like the original dialogue.
Right on point. But I don't think it's something can be fixed by mixing. In other words, mixing cannot ever compete with voice recorded right from the acting set.That's why I always select original voice track.
This guy has done Anime dubs also like Muzan for example
I feel it's better than a lot of other live-action dub audio. This one actually had stuff like reverb filters placed on the voices, and they subtly panned when someone was talking from one side of the screen. Some of the other dubs for Squid Game literally just sound fresh off the mic, even in places like the bathroom.
I still prefer the original voices with subtitles. Dubbing can't always capture the perfection of the original performance.
The original performance is not always there. Actor are often recorded after the filming process for various reason (noise in the original take, change in the script or even bad performance). This is called post-synchronisation and use the same technics than dubbing.
This guy carried the dub
correct!
But some of us have to multi task like ironing while watching drama.
Sometimes, a lot of people really wanna understand what they're watching. That was quite apparent when I saw a clip of someone's aunt watching a scene from Warrior Nun dubbed in a language she understands.
I'd much rather read the subtitles.
These voice actors have beautiful voices though.
Korean dramas and movies have had good works in various genres from the past until now.
That's just the reason. I am a fan of Korean dramas and movies for over 10 years before Netflix
If someone has dyslexia, subtitles would be difficult to read considering the time they need to stay on screen. My mother has dyslexia and while I do personally prefer subtitles, I’m happy to have shared Squid Game Via English dub because she rarely watches non English shows and movies. While we’re at it, English Audio Description needs to be more widespread so that sight impaired viewers can enjoy non English content as well. Let’s also not forget that even British and American stuff get dubbed into other languages all the time. I’m not trying to stay Dubs are the best way, they are not. The original language with subtitles is the best way to experience the intended experience. But I would also like to share the content with as many people as possible.
people who complain about dubbing today, should here what it sounded like back in the 70's and 80's
Here’s some advice: If you’re watching a foreign movie or TV show, watch it in its original language with English subtitles on. A little reading never hurt anyone…
Exactly.
um dyslexics…
The voice actor has really good voice
He also dubs anime
Nice to see the voice actor, they all did an amazing job
No they didn't 🤣
.......ok
Greg Chun has done dubing experience and he has done dubs for Anime trust me this guy is good
Some Western media tends to underestimate non-English-speaking cultural countries.
but according to the article, there are 100 million people around the world who enjoy Korean culture
Squid Game was watched by 142 million households in 28 days
and is the most watched drama on Netflix.
It’s not the lip syncing. Some of the voices sound bad, and some annoying, like the older woman contestant
I watched in Korean with subs and found the VIP voices so corny.
@somerandomfella those guys aren’t dubbed. They’re actually English in the Korean version
I was watching some RUclipsrs react to squid game and the first 4 episodes they watched with dub and they hated the main character. As soon as they changed to subtitles they said the main character was more likeable because of his voice 😂
Yeah I watched it dubbed and hated the main character
It depends on how the voice actor want to approach the character. The one we had in the Filipino dub is quite cool-sounding. :) I'm also watching Alice in Borderland dubbed as well (as I've grown up watching anime dubbed so it's a no-brainer for me).
Subtitles Much Better!
Dub better
Subtitles Much Better!
If Squid Game was an English-speaking drama, the media wouldn't do this analysis
The media will analyze why it is so popular all over the world. When non-English-speaking dramas become popular, The media looks for other reasons. Korean dramas have been accumulating recognition. Because the Squid Game is fun
I watched Squid Game with the English Dub.
English dub made Squid Game a comedy rather than a horror show.
Hearing Korean with subtitles is totally different level.
Not really. English was great. Didnt take away from the immersion at all
People have hated dub for a long time but as someone who loves anime and just wants to watch as sometimes it can be overwhelming with the subtitles, dub has been amazing for me.
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I genuinely appreciate that
I'm mostly watch entertainments in english (with subs), sometimes too much that I feel weird watching native speaker movies in my own language, 😅
Subtitles is the way to go, get the original intentions and emotions
To be honest, I don't get why people dislike the dub. I think the actors did a phenomenal job at helping bring this to an American audience. To be fair, Gi-hun sounds like Ike and Sang-Woo sounds like Diamant. Han Mi-Nyeo also did a really great job too! 👏
They did a great job dubbing, haters always complain.
I agree 100%
Squid game is a amazing example of good dubbing me remembering the old lady’s voice 😬😬😬😬😳
Ah...anime, just saying, subtitles still the best
Dubbers and voice actors are amazing. The way they have to pull so many jobs and get into characters is astounding. People can bemoan those who watch dubs as lazy as opposed to subs (I'm of the opinion that subs can also give a unique cultural aspect dubs usually cannot hold), but the numbers prove time and time and time again that dubs are worth the investment. I feel Chun's commitment and respect how hard dubbers must work.
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(Man, I can't believe the voice of Yagami from Judgement is also the main in Squid games! Eager to see more of Greg Chun's Content!)
I'd rather never watch anything ever than watch it with dubbing.
Dubbing is highly technical and hard to make and master. Mexico has 70+ years of Dubbing and voice acting school and has been doing it for generations, without any new technologies, just technique. American, European, Japanese and other foreign products have been dubbed here. The best dubbing in the world, sometimes surpasses the acting quality of the original products. I can see this is new for Americans but I can't understand this problems if they have such good voice actors. Not the same thing, I see.
Dubbing is great for watching while distracted.
When you want to watch something while cooking, or checking emails, chasing kids, or doing something else, dubbing is a great way to still follow along with whatever is on.
This is more an issue with news reporting with subtitles (e.g. Vice) which can’t be consumed while distracted, unless you know the native language of whatever country they are currently filming in. BBC and other news services that dub their content makes it more consumable on the go.
@Adora Tsang I think you misunderstood me. Dubbing is the use of another language as the audio - no reading involved. Instead of forcing viewers to read every subtitle, dubbing allows people to listen instead. This is great when you are trying to do something else at the same time, like cooking.
People complain about everything if you dont like it dont watch it. It gives the US the chance to watch other cultures films which i am so grateful for
the main dubbing problem was with the secondary characters, like the crazy woman who smokes in the bathroom... I really liked this voice actor's work as detective Kaname Date in A.I. Somnium Files video game
One thing I come to understand is people will always complain, they had to make an English version of the series to make it easier and people still complain about the lips movements, why not watch the Korean version of it and bore urself up with subtitles
Other countries have been dubbing American content for a long time. They are pros.
Female pick pocket sounds like Tokyo from Money Heist
Imagine watching marvel movies dub; Still is a NO for me..
Dubbing has been much more pervasive in East Asia which has allowed the Chinese, Japanese and Koreans to watch each others popular TV series and movies for quite a while now. Hence we have gotten accustomed to the inherent deficiencies that can come with dubbing so quit complaining and enjoy the fantastic foreign content! 🤨
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I am particularly not used to dubbed contents, I'm very used to original content sounds with Portuguese subs, but when it comes to a language that I don't understand at all or I don't like the way it sounds I use the Brazilian Portuguese dubbing one of the best in the world. Brazilian's dubbing studios have so much experience with it that they mastered it with time. And sure English dubbing still have a lot to improve.
I think the Squid Game dubbing is pretty decent, but the biggest problem is WHY THE HECK the English subtitle is not matching the English dubbing?!!
The different annoyed me too until I learned that subtitles intentionally tried to shorten what was said to allow time for reader to read. Translation verbal or written is truly an art form.
Muzan from demon slayer
Omg he got the same voice as phi in beyblade burst turbo ❤
I prefer narrating with a little improvise than dubbing because I usually open Netflix in backgrounds while do something else. If I want authenticity, I just switch to original voice with sub.
Surprised they showed a sample of thailand 🇹🇭 very small market. I watched it here but listened to the English version.
The french dubbing was really good I didn't notice
I watched it in Hindi dubbed. I started with English dubbed, but soon within half way through first episode, it felt wierd. I immediately changed it to Hindi because it sounded better.
I simply don't respect poeple who watches movies and shows dubbed. You take everything away from the actors, and honestly, can't you read subtitles??
You do understand that there could be a number of reasons why people watch things dubbed, right?? For people with disabilities like dyslexia or other such processing issues, dubs can be crucial for accessibility. Not to mention sometimes people just wanna pay attention to the show itself without having to process two things at once; something i occasionally find difficult due to having ADHD.
Just turn on subtitles
I still recall Don Adams dubbing the baddie in Bruce Lee films
Huh, didn't even know there was an English dub. I watched the whole thing with subtitles.
Dubbing is a crime, always watch OV (with subtitles)
Dubbing is hard. I don't think the English dub did a good job though even with that considered. I'm used to watching live action dubs but Squid Game was very off putting.
Yea I tried it in English first then found subs way better
But I showed it to my mom who only speaks Spanish and I found the Spanish dub really good .
Imma be honest I enjoyed the English dub. I’ve watched this series like 30 times and still forget to watch it in Korean
i spreak korean so honestly the dubbed version doesn't even matte for me i just listen to the original
Ahh hello, please respect the professional dub-ber. As we all can see how they try hard to synchronize with those lip sync. Least we cant do like them.
The thing that makes dub been hard to digest is the fact that they use such crisp English. If I’m watching a Korean movie I would rather the English have a slight Korean accent. It’s hard to look at all Korean actors who are in Korea but here are a voice that sounds like a person sitting in a US news room.
ah ok makes more sense for when i was thinking garou english dub voice actor was the actor in this but yeah squid games is just dubbed too lol
Don't complain how hard it is when others can do it much better than you.
See I dont think so I can still follow with bad dubbing. Actually I really enjoy Korean films more so than other countries films that are dubbed because I feel their facial expressions are easier for me to understand than other dubs. I still see their faces even if the words dont match
You can't "watch" a movie or whatever if you are busy reading subtitles. I am ONLY interested in things that are Dubbed if they are worth watching in the first place, i don't watch ANYTHING if it's all subtitles. What they really need is some software that can rebuild the mouth movements utilizing the voiceover from the "dub", then the problem will be solved.
It's the opposite for me. I live in Sweden where we traditionally don't ever dub anything. So when watching something that's dubbed there is always a glaring mismatch between the dialogue and the rest of the audio.
That breaks immersion immediately for me, so i can't continue watching.
I'll take subtitles over that any day of week, but I'm also very used to them.
Netflix started to dub things into Swedish for a while, but I highly doubt anyone here ever watched it that way.
What about full replacement? Removing the original just the voice tracks
sub > dub
subtitles >>>>>>>>>> dubbed
India is probably their biggest dubbed content market, and not a mention of it. Strange.
Nah. Netflix needs naturally toned or real life husky voiced dubbing rather than a dude who sound like his pouches got squeezed. Make it sound natural while following the lips and jaw movements as best as possible. Dont make it sound like we are watching high school documentary.
Thumbs up if you liked the subtitles better!
I found it hard with the dubbing
YAGAMI
I noticed the English dubbed version of Squid Game is not consistent with the English subtitles. Perhaps there is some room for improvement.
No. I'm asian, we can read.
Just read the subtitles. It is better
The Spanish dub was really good and the mouth movement did not match up at all. I think the English dub it’s too clear with it audio and I think there’s too much over-enunciation, like people don’t talk like that. And I’m sorry I really just think the acting the lacked in the audio too
Netflix did a great job. Unless one has a translation chip in one's brain, dubbing is the best choice. I have yet to subscribe to Netflix but watching Squid Game at friend's home has got me extremely interested.
Netflix's dubbing AND subtitles need serious work. Subtitles for animes in Netflix are absolute dog shart. Dubbing esp. for K-drama is the same level of shart too. A lot of U.S audiences get introduced to Asian series through Netflix. It is just soo sad that they could have appreciated the series more if Netflix does even the bare minimum to make decent sub and dub work. Compared to other platforms for Anime and K-Drama, Netflix's subtitles are disappointing. Such a sham that a huge platform is doing shart work on this.
Worst thing when Netflix dub any show in hindi literally it sucks!
Its not that Americans won't watch dubbed content it's that generally foreign film has always been lackluster and nothing in comparison to what comes out of Hollywood. Now though, some of the best movies and shows I've seen were dubbed content by foreign creators like Korea, German, Brazilian etc. Now that financing is going to other countries to create better content dubbing will revolutionize film in a way yet to be scene it's honestly exciting with all the new better content Americans can now enjoy from other countries courtesy of access to capital and proper dubbing
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'Director of Dubbing'!!! Fire her.
Dubbing only works for animation only
This guy has dubbed in anime he literally Muzan
People still watch Dubs?????
Yes
Why dub? I dont get it. It feels more authentic watching the original with sub
Japanese version of this series will be like "why not people watch me when I am better by miles"?
Hopefully, they'll learn to respect the dubbed version now!
The gist I got from this video is that dubbing is never perfect. Meanwhile, subbing is pretty much perfected. You maintain the acting, voice, and lipsync of the character. I think if people are too lazy to read subtitles, I don't think shows should create dubs for them. A bad dub can make someone's opinion of a good show into a bad one. Why should shows cater to people that only gave them attention once it was available in English due to them being ignorant and not wanting to breach through a language barrier.
The downside of subtitles is that it doesn't fully capture the full context of a dialogue when making the jump across languages so more often, there's the necessity of having to simplify dialogue. Outside of formal conversations, something very specific like colloquialisms, slangs, word plays, and such may not have an equal counterparts in the language of the viewer so much like dubbing, you have to improvise and localize. :)
I'd very much prefer to feel and hear the raw emotions out of the actor's mouth and read the subs at the same time, than to have it dubbed over and the emotions of the voiceover don't seem to sync with the desperate situation I see. Maybe a trilingial mind like me can watch and read the subs at the same time, compared to someone who's just monolingual in english. Never quite understood why people esp eng-speaking only folks who can't keep with what they watch n read subs at same time.
sub over dub
who watches it dubbed lol
ameture foreign show fans vs chad anime enjoyers
I never ever ever listen to Dubs even Anime. Best to watch in their own language whether it's Chinese, Thai, Korean, French, German, Burmese, etc.
I've got a revolutionary idea, it might be controversial but hear me out.
What if
you
watch the show
in the original
language?
mind blowing right?
The English dubbing of Squid Games was atrocious.
let AI do the dubbing
subs > dubs
I had English subtitles and Korean dubbing on. It captures the essence of an art piece in foreign language, a sort of token of respect for the work according to me.
I watch dubbed version on Dolby atmos supported tv. It was amazing. Don’t blame dubbing. Upgrade your hardware.
First step in the selection process for character dubbing is voice matching, not necessarily proficiency or establishment. (His voice does not resemble 이정재의!)
I rather watch it with subs~~~
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Yess this dub was soo bad i had to watch the Korean version with subs