I liked to think some of these answers are just Toriyama looking down on us from the other world with a smile now going "yeah sure.... But I just thought it was a really cool story thou. "
I think that Glinds are simply magical creatures that are trained to be kais, as we saw Gowasu training Zamasu in Super. Also, they are definitely trying to form some connection between namekians and Glinds. We'll probably get more lore in the 2nd demon world.
I'll be very glad if Beerus and Champa turn up to be from the Demon Realm. It was always weird to me that they are twin brothers who ended being the gods of two different universes altogether.
Shin did say that demons could come and go without restriction before it was closed off. So Elder kai could've been chosen during that free era of the demon world
1. The fact that Old Kai is so lustful, and was implied to be so before his fusion, implies that there is sexual reproduction. 2. Shin’s ignorance could be explained by the Old Kai being sealed before completing his successor’s training leading to multiple generations of ignorant gods of creation. Shin’s knowledge of the demon realm is because it’s his homeland, while his ignorance of his divine responsibility is due to lack of proper training.
Panzy: Are you some kinda god? Shin: kinda sorta...maybe not really. Somewhere in universe 10: Zamasu gets irrationally angry for an unknown reason while making tea for Gowasu
Random question: do you think that those fusion bugs are the basis for creating potara? Like some kind of ingredient put in before it's turned into a wearable accessory for ease of use?
When it comes to warp sama i chalk him not recognizing or caring who shin is to the same vein of Perunga not acknowledging him hes technically one of the highest gods in u7 but hes a recluse whos terrible at his job if Beerus showed up at a warp Sama i think hed probably tremble and eagerly grant him whatever he wants like Shenlong
I'm just happy my fav Shin gets some spotlight and hope he has more chances to truly shine throughout the series. He's always been such an underrated character with a lot of wasted potential.
So all things considered, this makes Gohan's path the opposite of his father's. Goku has mastered an angel's technique. Gohan has been trained by demons since he was 5.
The real question is if Neko Majin are going to appear. I mean, Jango started in his own story before he became Dragon Ball Canon, so it might be the same for the Neko Majin. Maybe one even becomes Son Goku's disciple for a short time and start naming himself Neko Majin Z.
If we see popo's homeworld I hope structures there will look spherical despite being made of only square tiles. "All these squares make a circles, all these squares make a circle... All these squares make a circle..."
Shin did know about the existence of Beerus in the BOG movie, it was only in the anime version of BOG that he didn’t know Beerus. For some reason they just made Shin very incompetent in the Super anime.
I also think the Demon Realms are like proto-universes and Namekians and Glinds and maybe Yardrats share some common origin. Perhaps multiple Demon/Majin races were later taken to the main universes to evaluate their potential for divine duties by the Angels or other Deities. And the Glinds were the most capable divine taks and then all Kai positions are taken up by Glinds.
do like the connections the kais & namekians have to makai/love shin(like to see elder/king kai even if briefly in daima.) in this as dragonball retcon's it's own world a lot(like how it changes from makai before no different from how hell was changed from hfil so villains couldn't easily escape/makes towa a bad apple with how dabura is shown more reasonable.) with how toriyama writes it on his own passion or in buu's case can feel it was done in a burned out state/the universes in super feeling like a missed opportunity to explore(especially sadala.) that i could see the demon realm was a first draft(considering our version was from the devil getting sent there when he got corrupted power hungry for his britches could see something similar/love it to be tori-bot.) & seeing shin interact with his siblings excites me.
2 things that might be worth talking about There's definitely something funky going on with the Namekian exodus. Why would there be 2 groups going to two separate universes. Maybe there's something about having all the namekians or dragon balls in one place that's bad. Like maybe they become a hive mind or something. Another probable demon race is the Yardrat. They have the ears and they exist in multiple universes too
I'm so confused as to why this is confusing people... It was clear from episode 1 that this is a soft reboot. I've been saying the same since the first episode's review. Daima and Super are separate canons. Will Super integrate aspects of Daima in the future? Very likely, but we're not there yet.
I wonder if the lack or knowledge of Beerus from Shin is partly due to that war over the rights of Dragon Ball. They could be shying away from Super references because of how messy this all situation is. Maybe they even want to make their own separate Daima continuity to milk that so they can have a part of the franchise they can milk in peace. 🤔
Have you ever thought of creating a story like a multiversal tournament involving all your characters from your what ifs? It would be pretty interesting to see the interactions, and differences between their power levels compared to the original story.
I don't know if Namekians are purely "genderless" because I believe that back when Dragon Ball Super Super Hero came out there was this meme or something about Piccolo and Pan's teacher getting together and that made people talk about if Piccolo has what it takes for a physical relationship, and then there was a statement put out by Toriyama or someone in the Dragon Ball room that stated that Piccolo does has reproductive organs and that Namekains reproduction is the sexual organs that is used with the other reproductive organs in the Namekians's chest or mouth of whatever, and then they spit out the eggs to hack and that is how they reproduce, or something like that, but that is how I believe that they said that Namekians reproduce, so since they would have that reproductive system, then maybe they do have a gender, but Glinds/Kais are just genderless from being birthed from trees. I could be looking too deep into it, but tell me what you all think and if there is anything that I am wrong about.
This video made me think of this, but Daima does seem to mirror Journey to the West quite well, with Shin being the monk and Goku, Glorio, and Panzy his protectors. Also, keep in mind that in Buddhism in China there are three categories of sutras, what the monk journied to collect.
I am kind of confused why people keep saying that shin didn't know about Beerus. The super episode where this is discussed indicates he already did know, they had just never been in contact.
For now I'm gonna imagine that Glind were the designated species to become Kai even while they still lived in the Demon Realm, but once travel got stricter and stricter (seems like the Demon Realm is just kinda being deliberately cut off from the rest of existence) it was decided that the Glind should be moved for convenience 🤔 But who knows- I'm sure it will be adressed at least some more if we reach the Glinds old home in the 2nd Demon World It IS kinda funny how Old Kai is kinda the main snag in the chronology here, cause of that established 15 generations gap
Im still trying to get used to calling Supreme kai by his real name, Shin. We've been calling him by his title for so long, that it's hard to break from that habit.
So you know how Freeza's race doesn't have an actual name, and the only thing we know is Kold was a mutant from that race, and he went on to birth Freeza and Cooler alone? What if the original race are from the Demon Realm? And Kold eons ago escaped?
It would be funny if beerus and champa’s species was closer to divinity instead of demonic So then we have a destruction god raised as a divine being and creation god being demonic
So the Kais might have the female parts in their throats like the Namiekians. (I remember hearing something about that popping up around the time the DBS Superhero arc.)
It doesn't say that they choose their gender they might still come out looking like that and are automatically labeled that way. Shin could have just meant that we're not men and women in the sense that we don't sexually reproduce like your men and women. Also when it comes to fusion at least in the manga it is only supreme Kai's that fuse permanently if a normal one fuses with anybody it's still only lasts an hour And the truth is when it comes to shin and his other kind leaving the realm I think it's probably going to be revealed that she didn't actually chose to stay behind for the longest time. He's probably going to reveal that he used to be a bad guy like his siblings but at some point he came to the mortal realm and he saw the light and then became The apprentice of the Grand supreme Kai
Hmmm basically numerous species from the Demon Realm become Kami/Kais/gods in the mortal realm…very interesting Toriyama 🤔lol Oh and Hail Mr. Satan, champion of Earth!
so your saying that people never forget things or miss-remember stuff ever? Talk of 2 events that don't line up over super and daima could never be bad memory or someone hidding things. No No could never happen for a TV show. Even when people like me forget things & miss remember things irL
I still think Super was disconsidered, and serves only as source of some lore elements, just like GT serves only as source of some plot points and Xenoverse/Heroes serves as source of some key-characters (Glorio and Arinsu/Mira and Towa)
0:57 I took it as them all being agender and simply adopting pronouns and gender expressions. Also headcanoning all Glind as aroace now (the witch side of Elder Kai was a lesbian, making Elder Kai an abigender lesbian).
When Daima is finished, I was wondering if you would do “What if Raditz Turned Good? Daima Edition”?
Pleeeeeease
That's cool
Jan jaka jan
Kid Raditz!
What if radditz turned into a kid? Jannnnnnnnnn janka jaaaaan....!
I have been having a pretty bad day today so a good old Masakox videos should cheer me up
Same.
I liked to think some of these answers are just Toriyama looking down on us from the other world with a smile now going "yeah sure.... But I just thought it was a really cool story thou. "
Some franchise canon is written with advanced music theory. Dragon Ball is Freeform Jazz.
[insert snippet of Duncan Lamont - Pressure Point here]
Jazz actually has some very advanced music theory behind it. You can't improvise if you don't know what you're doing.
@@Pablo360able True, but it ruins the punchline to explain the whole joke.
I think that Glinds are simply magical creatures that are trained to be kais, as we saw Gowasu training Zamasu in Super. Also, they are definitely trying to form some connection between namekians and Glinds. We'll probably get more lore in the 2nd demon world.
I'll be very glad if Beerus and Champa turn up to be from the Demon Realm. It was always weird to me that they are twin brothers who ended being the gods of two different universes altogether.
I like to imagine that Kais grow inside fruits then when the time is right the fruit decay/rot off of the new born.
Some of those fruits could bear demons harboring great power and eventually become Devil Fruits.
@@JoeFanik wrong anime buddy
@@MedaMatchaElite I know that’s the joke
Shin did say that demons could come and go without restriction before it was closed off. So Elder kai could've been chosen during that free era of the demon world
1. The fact that Old Kai is so lustful, and was implied to be so before his fusion, implies that there is sexual reproduction.
2. Shin’s ignorance could be explained by the Old Kai being sealed before completing his successor’s training leading to multiple generations of ignorant gods of creation. Shin’s knowledge of the demon realm is because it’s his homeland, while his ignorance of his divine responsibility is due to lack of proper training.
It very possible that glinds can use magic to give themselves sexual reproduction organs
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤯🐲🤌🏾
Panzy: Are you some kinda god?
Shin: kinda sorta...maybe not really.
Somewhere in universe 10: Zamasu gets irrationally angry for an unknown reason while making tea for Gowasu
Did not expect the glind to be so..... Fetus-y
A funky fetus
I KNOW RIGHT?!
Random question: do you think that those fusion bugs are the basis for creating potara? Like some kind of ingredient put in before it's turned into a wearable accessory for ease of use?
When it comes to warp sama i chalk him not recognizing or caring who shin is to the same vein of Perunga not acknowledging him hes technically one of the highest gods in u7 but hes a recluse whos terrible at his job if Beerus showed up at a warp Sama i think hed probably tremble and eagerly grant him whatever he wants like Shenlong
Gorilo looked badass with the lightning! Like darth sidius! POOOOWER! UNLIMITED POWER! ⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡
"That one was on purpose!"
@@denverarnold6210could’ve been
Glorio....😏
I'm just happy my fav Shin gets some spotlight and hope he has more chances to truly shine throughout the series. He's always been such an underrated character with a lot of wasted potential.
Gorilo must've been trained by Darth Sidious.
Look at that force lightning! ⚡⚡
Well Toriyama DID love his Star Wars.
@@MasakoXnot starwars but a homage to muten roshi signature technique
His name is Glorio.
So all things considered, this makes Gohan's path the opposite of his father's. Goku has mastered an angel's technique. Gohan has been trained by demons since he was 5.
Thats a happy accident thats very fun thematically
Okay that's cool but who wins, Broly vs Fernando Alonso in Newey designed car?
The real question is if Neko Majin are going to appear.
I mean, Jango started in his own story before he became Dragon Ball Canon, so it might be the same for the Neko Majin. Maybe one even becomes Son Goku's disciple for a short time and start naming himself Neko Majin Z.
Let's bring in Kuriza too
If we see popo's homeworld I hope structures there will look spherical despite being made of only square tiles.
"All these squares make a circles, all these squares make a circle... All these squares make a circle..."
Shin did know about the existence of Beerus in the BOG movie, it was only in the anime version of BOG that he didn’t know Beerus. For some reason they just made Shin very incompetent in the Super anime.
I also think the Demon Realms are like proto-universes and Namekians and Glinds and maybe Yardrats share some common origin.
Perhaps multiple Demon/Majin races were later taken to the main universes to evaluate their potential for divine duties by the Angels or other Deities. And the Glinds were the most capable divine taks and then all Kai positions are taken up by Glinds.
do like the connections the kais & namekians have to makai/love shin(like to see elder/king kai even if briefly in daima.) in this as dragonball retcon's it's own world a lot(like how it changes from makai before no different from how hell was changed from hfil so villains couldn't easily escape/makes towa a bad apple with how dabura is shown more reasonable.) with how toriyama writes it on his own passion or in buu's case can feel it was done in a burned out state/the universes in super feeling like a missed opportunity to explore(especially sadala.) that i could see the demon realm was a first draft(considering our version was from the devil getting sent there when he got corrupted power hungry for his britches could see something similar/love it to be tori-bot.) & seeing shin interact with his siblings excites me.
2 things that might be worth talking about
There's definitely something funky going on with the Namekian exodus. Why would there be 2 groups going to two separate universes. Maybe there's something about having all the namekians or dragon balls in one place that's bad. Like maybe they become a hive mind or something.
Another probable demon race is the Yardrat. They have the ears and they exist in multiple universes too
I wonder if Glind are an offshoot of some Namekian ancestor, or emulate them. Because there's far too many similarities to just be coincidence.
I'm so confused as to why this is confusing people... It was clear from episode 1 that this is a soft reboot. I've been saying the same since the first episode's review.
Daima and Super are separate canons.
Will Super integrate aspects of Daima in the future? Very likely, but we're not there yet.
I wonder if the lack or knowledge of Beerus from Shin is partly due to that war over the rights of Dragon Ball. They could be shying away from Super references because of how messy this all situation is. Maybe they even want to make their own separate Daima continuity to milk that so they can have a part of the franchise they can milk in peace. 🤔
When daima finishes will you do Daima what ifs?! Please masako! Specially with Raditz
Have you ever thought of creating a story like a multiversal tournament involving all your characters from your what ifs? It would be pretty interesting to see the interactions, and differences between their power levels compared to the original story.
I don't know if Namekians are purely "genderless" because I believe that back when Dragon Ball Super Super Hero came out there was this meme or something about Piccolo and Pan's teacher getting together and that made people talk about if Piccolo has what it takes for a physical relationship, and then there was a statement put out by Toriyama or someone in the Dragon Ball room that stated that Piccolo does has reproductive organs and that Namekains reproduction is the sexual organs that is used with the other reproductive organs in the Namekians's chest or mouth of whatever, and then they spit out the eggs to hack and that is how they reproduce, or something like that, but that is how I believe that they said that Namekians reproduce, so since they would have that reproductive system, then maybe they do have a gender, but Glinds/Kais are just genderless from being birthed from trees. I could be looking too deep into it, but tell me what you all think and if there is anything that I am wrong about.
Thanks doc.
Just answer me; Who was King Piccolo banging to have so many babies
Did kaioshin Read glorios mind? I think not
This video made me think of this, but Daima does seem to mirror Journey to the West quite well, with Shin being the monk and Goku, Glorio, and Panzy his protectors. Also, keep in mind that in Buddhism in China there are three categories of sutras, what the monk journied to collect.
I am kind of confused why people keep saying that shin didn't know about Beerus. The super episode where this is discussed indicates he already did know, they had just never been in contact.
For now I'm gonna imagine that Glind were the designated species to become Kai even while they still lived in the Demon Realm, but once travel got stricter and stricter (seems like the Demon Realm is just kinda being deliberately cut off from the rest of existence) it was decided that the Glind should be moved for convenience 🤔
But who knows- I'm sure it will be adressed at least some more if we reach the Glinds old home in the 2nd Demon World
It IS kinda funny how Old Kai is kinda the main snag in the chronology here, cause of that established 15 generations gap
The "ambilical cord" being on the back is do cursed
Im still trying to get used to calling Supreme kai by his real name, Shin.
We've been calling him by his title for so long, that it's hard to break from that habit.
I love how all of this new Daima lore is endlessly dunking on Zamasu.
So you know how Freeza's race doesn't have an actual name, and the only thing we know is Kold was a mutant from that race, and he went on to birth Freeza and Cooler alone? What if the original race are from the Demon Realm? And Kold eons ago escaped?
Mutations aside, no pointy ears. In fact, no proper ears at all, just ear holes. Not very likely, imo.
While they don't have an official name certain 3rd party sources referred to them as frost demons.
By the end of this series it would be hilarious if you dubbed all the ways Goku mispronounces Glorio's name~
It would be funny if beerus and champa’s species was closer to divinity instead of demonic
So then we have a destruction god raised as a divine being and creation god being demonic
Wait. Wait. Are the Glind named after Glinda the Good Witch from Wizard of Oz? That feels like a Toriyama thing.
So the Kais might have the female parts in their throats like the Namiekians. (I remember hearing something about that popping up around the time the DBS Superhero arc.)
Great video.
11:47 So Goku is pretty much, well, Sun Wukong?
It doesn't say that they choose their gender they might still come out looking like that and are automatically labeled that way. Shin could have just meant that we're not men and women in the sense that we don't sexually reproduce like your men and women.
Also when it comes to fusion at least in the manga it is only supreme Kai's that fuse permanently if a normal one fuses with anybody it's still only lasts an hour
And the truth is when it comes to shin and his other kind leaving the realm I think it's probably going to be revealed that she didn't actually chose to stay behind for the longest time. He's probably going to reveal that he used to be a bad guy like his siblings but at some point he came to the mortal realm and he saw the light and then became The apprentice of the Grand supreme Kai
I think that the glind are still born in demon realm but shipped out to the world core
i,m here when it still has 6 comments 596 views 80 likes and 0 dislikes
I wonder what would happen if Raditz went to the demon realm
Plant people lol
Grown from plant, look like people.
Good luck with your what ifs
Waiting for that ONE person to claim daima is " Woke" 🙄
also, is the Demon realm outside of the multiverse or does every universe have their own?
Seems like it's outside of the 12 universes we know of since dwellers of 3 demon realms have to specify where exactly they want to go.
@@Jaquan018 you're right, how did I miss that
Hmmm basically numerous species from the Demon Realm become Kami/Kais/gods in the mortal realm…very interesting Toriyama 🤔lol
Oh and Hail Mr. Satan, champion of Earth!
Oh hey I'm first! Hope you and your family are doing wonderfully!
so your saying that people never forget things or miss-remember stuff ever? Talk of 2 events that don't line up over super and daima could never be bad memory or someone hidding things. No No could never happen for a TV show. Even when people like me forget things & miss remember things irL
I still think Super was disconsidered, and serves only as source of some lore elements, just like GT serves only as source of some plot points and Xenoverse/Heroes serves as source of some key-characters (Glorio and Arinsu/Mira and Towa)
0:57 I took it as them all being agender and simply adopting pronouns and gender expressions. Also headcanoning all Glind as aroace now (the witch side of Elder Kai was a lesbian, making Elder Kai an abigender lesbian).
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it makes zamasu look infinitely more stupid
he's always been a hypocrite. that's one of his core characteristics
Didn't think that was possible