PTSD from child abuse (especially long-term abuse) is a very different form of PTSD than that from any other source. Treating Child Abuse PTSD the same as the other PTSD's can be extremely harmful and re-traumatizing. There are several studies out that confirm this, from blood tests to brain scans to autopsies, the physical structure of the brain of Child Abuse Trauma survivors is different. The Amygdala and the Hippocampus are both smaller, and produce likewise smaller amounts of their specialized brain chemicals, some of which have to do with emotional regulation. Adults who were abused as children will respond to new traumas very differently than other adults will.
Idk if you are still interested in resources for complex ptsd, but I thought I'd share with you a few things I have become aware of in seeking help ..... It's important to find a trauma focused therapist trained in complex ptsd, not only ptsd..... I know there are a lot of therapists and C-PTSD patients who use EMDR, Somatic body / Experience, Polyvagal theory, Hypnotherapy, experiential therapy, medication, psychedelics (therapeutic, micro dosing), mindfulness, meditation. Peter Walker, Peter Levine, Arielle Schwartz, many other psychologists, psychoanalyst, etc who study and specialize in CPTSD and neurobiological changes due to the trauma.... There are also private groups on Facebook for support, awareness, other CPTSD survivors, thrivors, along with websites.. Hope this helps you in some way or I hope you're doing better today. Peace and Love to you
This video made me cry, simply because this man shows that there is at least one person out there who gets it. Sometimes I feel like there is absolutely no medical professional around who fully understands... Thank you so much for posting these.
This made me cry too. He explained this in a way that I have always understood myself but could never really find the words to explain it. It's so therapeutic to have this kind of validation for a disorder that I suffer from
I have the chills after watching this man. I feel like he's been sent from an angel. He's so comforting too. His voice is soothing, and Doc Reiss, your absolutely rite, he give hope, because I feel alot better about my own PTSD and feel like it has ruined my life. But I still believe I can one day be over all this
Kaj Dalfall I understand your question from the perspective of my first memories being severe abuses. What is normal? is a haunting question. But all my life I wanted to know what really mattered, how people should behave, how they normally feel when encountering different situations. And that helped me carve out a life I could believe in. PTSD proved my conception of childhood a sham if rose colored glasses due to amnesia clearing. But it never changed those things about me or in life that I truly value. sure, I fought with my faith - but the wrestle with God confirmed my faith. I had memory issues wipe out my knowledge of chemistry and English teaching - but one small step after another restores what I need.And by pursuing joys, that I would have been too afraid to do before CBT counseling, I found a strong skill based passion that is now a life purpose. I hope you find yourself more every day!
He talks about inpatient depressed .. just look how humane he speaks … all doctors should learn. He says you have cared all the time for others now it is time for you to be taken care of. I never heard this language from anyone. But this is how I speak about others too. I wish to hear this language more in the world
Hello -- I am also a survivor of multiple, prolonged trauma. I am so sorry to hear of your experiences. A classic book on PTSD which has really helped me is Judith Herman's "Trauma and Recovery." It was an amazing resource in helping me deal with years of abuse.
3:56 I've been this way countless times. And the wonderful part is... :D Not only did people not do anything about it, but some of them actually treated me worse and became abusive! Isn't this universe awesome!!?? But srsly. I feel like I wouldn't even live long enuf to spend the amount of money that I would have if I were paid due monetary compensation. Life owes me now. And feeling that way is such a crappy way to go thru life. People don't like people who feel this way. So, I can't win.
Yep. Thats it in a nutshell. If someone has been abused they are marked for abuse the rest of their lives. Some times from ppl you would never even expect it from.
I was physically attacked and injured again 3 weeks ago. My initial attack and head injury that caused my PTSD happened about 10 yrs. ago. I see a therapist regularly, but she doesn't really understand much about what happens to a person when they are assulted again. I am trying to figure this out. I isolate anyway for the most part, but this last assault has left me feeling like something broke inside me. I have lost emotion...and I stay in my house, in my pjs, sitting in my chair feeling frozen. I feel stuck. I would like someone to help me understand this.
It's hard to change therapists (I know. I had to) but the right help is absolutely necessary because talk therapy doesn't help PTSD. Please find one trained in CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy). This is the only proven way to recover from the hardships of PTSD and pave new neural pathways in the mind that are healthy. These lead us through recovery, which feels a heck of a lot better! And EMDR can ease flashbacks and intrusive thoughts.
You'll get stronger 💪 Again as long as your away from the Abuser, your in a safe place it's good to be alone as long as you can call talk to good people, healing a broken inside ,is a break that can't be broken again That attacker didn't care who he or she hurt ,Your doctor I hope is a good honest person you will overcome the setback ,I was just attacked been through years of Terror I heal if I can stay away from abusers, isolation is not good for us for more 2 or 3 months quite, stable,safe life style is,God bless you Keep on keeping on💜
Thank you for posting your question. I too suffer from layers of PTSD and would like to know the answer. If you got a reply would you please post it? I've had multiple traumas and have struggled through counseling. Nothing has helped. Thank you!
I wasn’t diagnosed with ptsd until I was 31 after living with it since I was 23. They couldn’t do anything but pump me with anti depressants, which made me worse. For the last 16yrs I’ve been on a benzo, allowing me to sleep and keep panic/anxiety under control. I control the rest. It’s easier to get better when you can think, and be on a schedule.
Effective treatment, for either PTSD or depression, is a nice myth, but the reality is that the practice of psychology is decades behind the field of psychology. For depression, the treatment is to drug one's emotions into submission, then stick one in a support group to talk about the side effect of the meds. Talking about the source of depression is frowned upon. For PTSD, the treatment is to talk and open one up emotionally, until one feels like those old anatomy drawings with the skin split and peeled and pinned back to display the insides. Leaving one feeling so raw and exposed that everything is made worse. The feeling of "worthlessness" and being irreparably broken from depression, are confirmed during PTSD treatment. You sound very nice, but you are living in a Polly-anna fantasy world, at best, claiming there is effective treatments available. I've only been looking for decades.
Cal El I agree with all you say. I think body work type therapies are better for PTSD. Indirectly addressing the root of the stored up fears, without reliving memories. I recommend the Alexander Technique.
Shalom Cal, There is something that works. Try the self authoring program www.selfauthoring.com/past-authoring.html or simply start writing about your experience. If it is from childhood the reason it is causing a problem is because if you are confronted with malevolence before adulthood you don't have a place to put it. There is no place to understand or put that experience. It sometimes feels like OCD on steroids. You get placed as if you were right there experiencing it all over again. It took a long time for me tor realize what I needed to to do. You did not have the language or emotionally ability to articulate that trauma. If you suffered abuse you need to start writing. Once you put words with your experience then that is what completes the process to move it to memory. We continue to visit what we don't understand and what does not make sense. Some present experiences are zapping you back in time so that you make order out of your chaos. Once you give it language you can file it away and be done. We have to go back in our minds and mach the experience with words to resolve them. It is not venting, America did not understand what Freud meant by catharsis, the translation the West made was incorrect it did not mean VENTING. It meant bring it to your conscious and name it and by naming it you transcend. Check out this man: James W. Pennebaker the links between emotional experiences, natural language, and physical and mental health. . Author or editor of 9 books and over 250 articles..pennebaker.socialpsychology.org/ I wish you a journey of healing and enlightenment. Huggles! L'Chaim!
There are treatments that work. EMDR helped me tremendously!! Just because it doesn't work for you, doesn't men it won't work for any one. I hope you can find relief
Same person makes you feel like a worthless stupid looser,it only stops when you get away from them,but the memory still thier,so if any sign of mistreatment at a job,work related,relationship related,it parolizes me,however been feeling better since I've stayed away from sibling.
jfsfrnd I couldn't comment on DBT. However, Mindfulness Therapy, which is my area of expertise, is based on the exercise of compassion toward our inner trauma. Mindfulness is the combination of conscious awareness and compassion, both of which are essential for healing trauma.
yeah. bc there is so much legitimate help out there. that is the key trigger for me. people who pass off this self serving tripe against a backdrop of stringed instruments and ambient soundscapes of nature. sorry. i just cant let people get away with that. its just one more layer of denial heaped on another.
no i disagree .. a child's mind processing trauma will reoccur at developmental levels. Not the same as a grown man who knows what is happening. Its very different. If you don't know you should not talk about it
I feel all PTSD is different all victims brains what we can handle what we can't how many cells are burned how we eat,how much we sleep how is our life now All different levels ⚔️as children youthful Adults All different 🐕🦺
PTSD from child abuse (especially long-term abuse) is a very different form of PTSD than that from any other source. Treating Child Abuse PTSD the same as the other PTSD's can be extremely harmful and re-traumatizing. There are several studies out that confirm this, from blood tests to brain scans to autopsies, the physical structure of the brain of Child Abuse Trauma survivors is different. The Amygdala and the Hippocampus are both smaller, and produce likewise smaller amounts of their specialized brain chemicals, some of which have to do with emotional regulation. Adults who were abused as children will respond to new traumas very differently than other adults will.
Check emotional freedom technique, eft. It does wonders for my (c)-ptsd because of organised abuse.
Idk if you are still interested in resources for complex ptsd, but I thought I'd share with you a few things I have become aware of in seeking help ..... It's important to find a trauma focused therapist trained in complex ptsd, not only ptsd..... I know there are a lot of therapists and C-PTSD patients who use EMDR, Somatic body / Experience, Polyvagal theory, Hypnotherapy, experiential therapy, medication, psychedelics (therapeutic, micro dosing), mindfulness, meditation. Peter Walker, Peter Levine, Arielle Schwartz, many other psychologists, psychoanalyst, etc who study and specialize in CPTSD and neurobiological changes due to the trauma....
There are also private groups on Facebook for support, awareness, other CPTSD survivors, thrivors, along with websites.. Hope this helps you in some way or I hope you're doing better today. Peace and Love to you
Thanks 4 confirming my theory ... Yes, u r correct about that... 🔥🤟🏻🤓😎🤟🏻🔥
I have c-ptsd also and it is different 💞
You,'re describing complex Trauma...
This video made me cry, simply because this man shows that there is at least one person out there who gets it. Sometimes I feel like there is absolutely no medical professional around who fully understands...
Thank you so much for posting these.
Absolutely ...I wish his videos were longer...🙏👍
This made me cry too. He explained this in a way that I have always understood myself but could never really find the words to explain it. It's so therapeutic to have this kind of validation for a disorder that I suffer from
I have the chills after watching this man. I feel like he's been sent from an angel. He's so comforting too. His voice is soothing, and Doc Reiss, your absolutely rite, he give hope, because I feel alot better about my own PTSD and feel like it has ruined my life. But I still believe I can one day be over all this
He has an amazing ability & insight to explain PTSD like no one has or could.
I feel validated & it calms my soul.
Thank you, Dr. Ochberg.
Thanks for showing compassion. Too often we are told to “suck it up.” Even dealing years and years of stress caring for others can cause damage.
What about us that has had it since childhood? There is nothing to go back to. No "normal" state exists.
Kaj Dalfall I understand your question from the perspective of my first memories being severe abuses. What is normal? is a haunting question. But all my life I wanted to know what really mattered, how people should behave, how they normally feel when encountering different situations. And that helped me carve out a life I could believe in. PTSD proved my conception of childhood a sham if rose colored glasses due to amnesia clearing. But it never changed those things about me or in life that I truly value. sure, I fought with my faith - but the wrestle with God confirmed my faith. I had memory issues wipe out my knowledge of chemistry and English teaching - but one small step after another restores what I need.And by pursuing joys, that I would have been too afraid to do before CBT counseling, I found a strong skill based passion that is now a life purpose. I hope you find yourself more every day!
Kaj Dalfall We are fkd mate I.I'm 47 and snapped.
Kaj Dalfall
So true we stay in a frozen state of fear flight or fight because we were exposed to to much overwhelm and trauma situations
What saved me as a child and teen were books. I read novels how normal people acted.
Thank you for this question. It’s hard to find info on what to do when there is no good to go back to.
He talks about inpatient depressed .. just look how humane he speaks … all doctors should learn. He says you have cared all the time for others now it is time for you to be taken care of. I never heard this language from anyone. But this is how I speak about others too. I wish to hear this language more in the world
Hello -- I am also a survivor of multiple, prolonged trauma. I am so sorry to hear of your experiences. A classic book on PTSD which has really helped me is Judith Herman's "Trauma and Recovery." It was an amazing resource in helping me deal with years of abuse.
Thank you for the book suggestion Liz.
I just requested it from the library.
3:56
I've been this way countless times. And the wonderful part is... :D
Not only did people not do anything about it, but some of them actually treated me worse and became abusive!
Isn't this universe awesome!!??
But srsly.
I feel like I wouldn't even live long enuf to spend the amount of money that I would have if I were paid due monetary compensation. Life owes me now.
And feeling that way is such a crappy way to go thru life. People don't like people who feel this way. So, I can't win.
Soooo true....revictimization
Yep. Thats it in a nutshell. If someone has been abused they are marked for abuse the rest of their lives. Some times from ppl you would never even expect it from.
This guy is amazing. Gives me hope for human kind.
I totally agree...what an eye-opener to hear this man talk.
Thank you. I'm really struggling with this. Hoping I can get the right treatment.
It’s sad to see so many people understand. It’s comforting, but it saddens me that so many people feel what I feel. It’s absolutely terrible for sure.
It gets better through time? Really? It has been 40 years, and it has only gotten worse, what amounts of 'time' are you refering to?
thanks....you sir are a healer
I was physically attacked and injured again 3 weeks ago. My initial attack and head injury that caused my PTSD happened about 10 yrs. ago. I see a therapist regularly, but she doesn't really understand much about what happens to a person when they are assulted again. I am trying to figure this out. I isolate anyway for the most part, but this last assault has left me feeling like something broke inside me. I have lost emotion...and I stay in my house, in my pjs, sitting in my chair feeling frozen. I feel stuck. I would like someone to help me understand this.
It's hard to change therapists (I know. I had to) but the right help is absolutely necessary because talk therapy doesn't help PTSD. Please find one trained in CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy). This is the only proven way to recover from the hardships of PTSD and pave new neural pathways in the mind that are healthy. These lead us through recovery, which feels a heck of a lot better! And EMDR can ease flashbacks and intrusive thoughts.
This worked well for me. You can try to release the stored up trauma in your body ruclips.net/video/WReAjA7Nx4M/видео.html
You'll get stronger 💪 Again as long as your away from the Abuser, your in a safe place it's good to be alone as long as you can call talk to good people, healing a broken inside ,is a break that can't be broken again That attacker didn't care who he or she hurt ,Your doctor I hope is a good honest person you will overcome the setback ,I was just attacked been through years of Terror I heal if I can stay away from abusers, isolation is not good for us for more 2 or 3 months quite, stable,safe life style is,God bless you Keep on keeping on💜
Thank you for posting your question. I too suffer from layers of PTSD and would like to know the answer. If you got a reply would you please post it? I've had multiple traumas and have struggled through counseling. Nothing has helped. Thank you!
Psychopaths can put you through hell and you may not make it all of the way back.Complex PTSD
I wasn’t diagnosed with ptsd until I was 31 after living with it since I was 23. They couldn’t do anything but pump me with anti depressants, which made me worse. For the last 16yrs I’ve been on a benzo, allowing me to sleep and keep panic/anxiety under control. I control the rest. It’s easier to get better when you can think, and be on a schedule.
Thank you Dr. Ochberg.
Can you make longer videos...? 🙏
Thanks for understanding
Effective treatment, for either PTSD or depression, is a nice myth, but the reality is that the practice of psychology is decades behind the field of psychology. For depression, the treatment is to drug one's emotions into submission, then stick one in a support group to talk about the side effect of the meds. Talking about the source of depression is frowned upon. For PTSD, the treatment is to talk and open one up emotionally, until one feels like those old anatomy drawings with the skin split and peeled and pinned back to display the insides. Leaving one feeling so raw and exposed that everything is made worse. The feeling of "worthlessness" and being irreparably broken from depression, are confirmed during PTSD treatment. You sound very nice, but you are living in a Polly-anna fantasy world, at best, claiming there is effective treatments available. I've only been looking for decades.
Cal El I agree with all you say. I think body work type therapies are better for PTSD. Indirectly addressing the root of the stored up fears, without reliving memories. I recommend the Alexander Technique.
Shalom Cal,
There is something that works. Try the self authoring program www.selfauthoring.com/past-authoring.html or simply start writing about your experience. If it is from childhood the reason it is causing a problem is because if you are confronted with malevolence before adulthood you don't have a place to put it. There is no place to understand or put that experience. It sometimes feels like OCD on steroids. You get placed as if you were right there experiencing it all over again. It took a long time for me tor realize what I needed to to do. You did not have the language or emotionally ability to articulate that trauma. If you suffered abuse you need to start writing. Once you put words with your experience then that is what completes the process to move it to memory. We continue to visit what we don't understand and what does not make sense. Some present experiences are zapping you back in time so that you make order out of your chaos. Once you give it language you can file it away and be done. We have to go back in our minds and mach the experience with words to resolve them. It is not venting, America did not understand what Freud meant by catharsis, the translation the West made was incorrect it did not mean VENTING. It meant bring it to your conscious and name it and by naming it you transcend.
Check out this man: James W. Pennebaker the links between emotional experiences, natural language, and physical and mental health. . Author or editor of 9 books and over 250 articles..pennebaker.socialpsychology.org/
I wish you a journey of healing and enlightenment. Huggles!
L'Chaim!
There are treatments that work. EMDR helped me tremendously!! Just because it doesn't work for you, doesn't men it won't work for any one. I hope you can find relief
Same person makes you feel like a worthless stupid looser,it only stops when you get away from them,but the memory still thier,so if any sign of mistreatment at a job,work related,relationship related,it parolizes me,however been feeling better since I've stayed away from sibling.
You may like to explore Mindfulness Therapy for treating PTSD and for overcoming anxiety and depression.
DBT - Dialectical Behavior Therapy is abusive and blames the victim for their abuse.
jfsfrnd
I couldn't comment on DBT. However, Mindfulness Therapy, which is my area of expertise, is based on the exercise of compassion toward our inner trauma. Mindfulness is the combination of conscious awareness and compassion, both of which are essential for healing trauma.
Schema Therapy is a good mindful Therapy.
yeah. bc there is so much legitimate help out there. that is the key trigger for me. people who pass off this self serving tripe against a backdrop of stringed instruments and ambient soundscapes of nature. sorry. i just cant let people get away with that. its just one more layer of denial heaped on another.
Part of this is how I feel
I love to listen to him. His voice soothes me
no i disagree .. a child's mind processing trauma will reoccur at developmental levels. Not the same as a grown man who knows what is happening. Its very different. If you don't know you should not talk about it
what a cool guy
This is exactly what it is!
I feel all PTSD is different all victims brains what we can handle what we can't how many cells are burned how we eat,how much we sleep how is our life now All different levels ⚔️as children youthful Adults All different 🐕🦺
yip iv had ensefalites.the enemy with in/ARRRRRRR. run run run..fitness helps my sleep and anger..
selah777 you will get through it.
That is absolutely not true 🔥