Japan Smash Ultimate Tournament - Ken [L] (Sonic) Vs. Zackray (Wolf) SSBU Grand Finals

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  • Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
  • Smash Ultimate Tournament Streamed Live at: / vgbootcamp
    This Japanese Smash Ultimate weekly party is held at the RedBull Gaming Sphere in Tokyo
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Комментарии • 134

  • @duckyedits6753
    @duckyedits6753 5 лет назад +171

    no matter what you might think about sonic in smash, Ken makes him look like one of the coolest characters out there

    • @seenl6eight258
      @seenl6eight258 5 лет назад +3

      GB LaquaRi Are you talking about Barbie’s boyfriend LOL

    • @jtrounce6027
      @jtrounce6027 5 лет назад +2

      I'd honestly prefer that the walking fetish was removed from the game.

    • @kyogariss
      @kyogariss 5 лет назад +11

      He is the coolest ! And not because he's my main

    • @seenl6eight258
      @seenl6eight258 5 лет назад

      J Trounce replace him with Banjo-Kazooie

    • @seenl6eight258
      @seenl6eight258 5 лет назад

      Ethan Cuckler huh? Weren’t you listening? I meant “replace Ken with Banjo-Kazooie, not Sonic.” Obviously nobody wanted the annoying “Lousy Breathing Fist”, I didn’t either. What a waste of space. He didn’t even deserved to be in the game.

  • @primerexo2351
    @primerexo2351 5 лет назад +50

    2:55 that cross up was sick 😷

  • @Rayhaku808
    @Rayhaku808 5 лет назад +32

    sonic does neutral b in mid air. commentator says "nair"
    wolf does a spking dair. commentator says "down tilt"
    wtf

  • @unknownman9966
    @unknownman9966 5 лет назад +196

    I know sonic was nerfed, but he is much more fun to watch

    • @fundos9345
      @fundos9345 5 лет назад +31

      Unknown Man I was about to say that I heavily disagree, but watching more, I can heavily agree. The nerf made him look so much cooler

    • @kingdedede333
      @kingdedede333 5 лет назад +55

      The only thing about him that was nerfed is his spin dash, basically everything else was buffed.

    • @EarlobeJuice
      @EarlobeJuice 5 лет назад +1

      woah pretty much.

    • @Linkfan0001
      @Linkfan0001 5 лет назад +5

      And much more fun to play, trust me he can do some crazy shit now!

    • @SwagMaster824
      @SwagMaster824 5 лет назад +3

      @@kingdedede333 homing attack is slower and his back throw doesn't kill early like before

  • @nexalord4059
    @nexalord4059 5 лет назад +86

    Sonic Homming Attack is AMAZING in this game. Use and abuse of this.

    • @SwagMaster824
      @SwagMaster824 5 лет назад

      It's way slower than Smash 4 though

    • @dabzcast
      @dabzcast 5 лет назад +23

      @@SwagMaster824 It *CAN* be waaay slower.

    • @CrypStic
      @CrypStic 5 лет назад +16

      I use it to make k rools and the Belmont’s want to kill themselves

    • @nexalord4059
      @nexalord4059 5 лет назад +18

      But the move can be immediately activated, catches the opponent guard off.

    • @deanmoriarty6015
      @deanmoriarty6015 5 лет назад +1

      it’s really great when it’s used right. when kirby’s copy it and try to use it off stage and just launch themselves off the screen is always a treat

  • @noodlepupgaming9930
    @noodlepupgaming9930 5 лет назад +19

    Ken makes me proud to main sonic

  • @kensa3844
    @kensa3844 5 лет назад +67

    What is this commentary....?

  • @xenofeild983
    @xenofeild983 5 лет назад +3

    For anyone trying to learn from this, sonic is not ideal for spiking, sonic and greninja have very similar down specials, however sonic goes at an angle in the direction he is facing, so if you miss, you SD, upspecial is less reliable but a hell of a lot safer as the spring can push your opponent down.

  • @DaDinkler
    @DaDinkler 5 лет назад +21

    People acting like Ken's Sonic wasn't fun to watch in Smash 4, Ken was the most interesting sonic in that game too, he didn't play like Wrath ffs.

  • @Mousemanmouse
    @Mousemanmouse 5 лет назад +6

    Wait a second down air is now called down tilt thank goodness I know now

  • @fiendbear4417
    @fiendbear4417 5 лет назад +25

    The fact that you can dash dance in Ultimate makes Sonic so much better. Def is higher tier just due to that. SONIC SPEED!

    • @PeachiiWubs
      @PeachiiWubs 5 лет назад +3

      @LeCoolFace wasn't a dash dance if you're basically pivoting with dust behind you lol

  • @cambopanda6390
    @cambopanda6390 5 лет назад +1

    I love how patient zackrsy, the guy literally stands still for a good moment to see how they are going to attack

  • @ct2xperience749
    @ct2xperience749 5 лет назад +43

    1:55 Sonic got real predictable

  • @ignisglasses3080
    @ignisglasses3080 5 лет назад +4

    The beginning when packrat just shot him was hilarious

  • @gamejitzu
    @gamejitzu 5 лет назад +13

    Sonic will be an interesting character to follow. I wont to see how far the Smash 4 players that stuck with Sonic, and the new players, will develop Sonic in this game

  • @rayman33888
    @rayman33888 5 лет назад

    That was a good set. It felt like each game could've gone either way, and was close the whole time. And that last game last stock was tense! Real fun to watch.

  • @SexyLegs9773
    @SexyLegs9773 5 лет назад +19

    Sonic actually fun to watch in ultimate

  • @ToonKake
    @ToonKake 5 лет назад +3

    i Love KEN good to see hes Still making Moves in this Game :)

  • @Exceed_HS
    @Exceed_HS 5 лет назад +36

    Wolf is low key a really good counterpick against Sonic.

    • @jalencunningham2012
      @jalencunningham2012 5 лет назад +11

      gamer117 it seems like it can be mostly even, this game just went down to skill

    • @SwagMaster824
      @SwagMaster824 5 лет назад

      I think Falco is too now that he's way faster and his laser speed is actually pretty fast again

    • @StriderZessei
      @StriderZessei 5 лет назад +10

      Wolf is getting slept on by most of the community. He's easily higher-mid tier.

    • @Saiyuna0
      @Saiyuna0 5 лет назад +3

      I wouldn't call it a counterpick tbh, its mostly an even match up but definitely not a counterpick

    • @rpsyco
      @rpsyco 5 лет назад

      Wolf's actually pretty good if you can memorize distance on where his attacks take you. The only problem is that he's awful against Chrom, who will most likely be used by many in tournaments (as stated by ZeRo).

  • @Malusmiser
    @Malusmiser 5 лет назад +24

    bnb spindash into homing attack noted

  • @duwaynehyman5451
    @duwaynehyman5451 5 лет назад +7

    Sonic put up a great fight.

  • @aleksandrvinkler1690
    @aleksandrvinkler1690 5 лет назад

    This commentary is hypeuu!

  • @InternetMonster1
    @InternetMonster1 5 лет назад +3

    Sonic looks way cooler, more unpredictable and more fun to fight now. Awesome!

    • @tylerwilson1024
      @tylerwilson1024 5 лет назад

      Feel like he's more predictable since his mixup game took a big hit. Though the faster speed and better homing attack, and just overall speed of the game being faster definitely makes sonic a threat

    • @InternetMonster1
      @InternetMonster1 5 лет назад

      @@tylerwilson1024 He did lose a lot of options out of spindash, but now his previously unavailable options in sm4sh are usable.

  • @il_goose2371
    @il_goose2371 5 лет назад +1

    Hope wolf ends up in high tier :*) I love watching him

    • @StriderZessei
      @StriderZessei 5 лет назад +1

      I'm guessing higher side of mid tier. He's good, but he has some pretty major weaknesses too.

    • @Clear256
      @Clear256 5 лет назад

      He'll be high tier no doubt. He's really good

    • @StriderZessei
      @StriderZessei 5 лет назад

      @@Clear256 He's really not. Fast faller, so he's combo food, his recovery is linear, predictable, and gimped pretty easily. All his kill options are slow, ans he has no kill combos. He has good stats as far as speed goes, but he will never be better than B tier (so like, higher side of Mid tier.)
      Look up Leffen's tier list video.

  • @Lightspeed416
    @Lightspeed416 5 лет назад +1

    Every time there’s a sonic match he barely loses every time

  • @cool7492
    @cool7492 5 лет назад +4

    What a great set! Unfortunately for Ken, he missed multiple opportunities to drop a spring on Zackray while he was recovering in game 3. If he dropped a spring on him at 11:36 for example, that likely would have been the game.

    • @xeno4693
      @xeno4693 5 лет назад +2

      Cool yeah I agree. The spring is very helpful in Sonic’s gameplay

  • @Alakazam2047
    @Alakazam2047 5 лет назад +1

    I just started learning Sonic, but could anyone explain when is the best time that Ken uses the Spin Charge over Spin Dash?

    • @markusbonnet439
      @markusbonnet439 5 лет назад

      To start up faster before hitting the ground

  • @leinswaisbrick
    @leinswaisbrick 4 года назад

    "Wolf is at 180% and sonic is at 50%, so it is basically even", tier lists create themselves.

  • @shantypantiess6587
    @shantypantiess6587 5 лет назад +2

    Zackray is so good

  • @Alejandro333777
    @Alejandro333777 5 лет назад +6

    Wolf winning that last one was ridiculous

  • @MiguelGuzmanIsAwesome
    @MiguelGuzmanIsAwesome 5 лет назад

    What a cool dude

  • @joeiannelli7499
    @joeiannelli7499 5 лет назад +2

    12:46 it wasn't even the nair that killed him it was wolfs ass

  • @propeller3138
    @propeller3138 4 года назад

    12:04 ここ本当勿体ないソニック

  • @erioncitaku5434
    @erioncitaku5434 5 лет назад +1

    Belekvit or not im an expert when i play with sonic.

  • @blitzbluex5154
    @blitzbluex5154 5 лет назад

    A question: Does spindash still combo into u-air?

    • @09JDCTrainMan
      @09JDCTrainMan 5 лет назад +1

      Hardly, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.

    • @Alibaba-id1cs
      @Alibaba-id1cs 5 лет назад

      BlitzBlue X depends after you connect side b and then jump for an up air and it could kill at 90-100% but everyone would expect it

    • @ahmadkazan7994
      @ahmadkazan7994 3 года назад

      Yes.
      It does now.

  • @goldenstringshot4950
    @goldenstringshot4950 5 лет назад +6

    sonic player should of won . made careless mistakes on the the homing attack near the edge and made a risk going for the up kick air. only time you go for the up air kick is when you trick them.

    • @Alejandro333777
      @Alejandro333777 5 лет назад

      Golden StringShot right that last match was ridiculous

    • @Alejandro333777
      @Alejandro333777 5 лет назад +4

      Wolf had 193 and still survived crazy

  • @5542-o3i
    @5542-o3i 5 лет назад +4

    God Sonic

  • @seenl6eight258
    @seenl6eight258 5 лет назад +4

    This proves even the worst/biggest nerfed characters in the game can see the light day of day in competitive play. Although, we can all probably agree that using broken characters or using dirty tactics in the game is playing dirty and drains the fun out of it.

    • @Nikkerman
      @Nikkerman 5 лет назад +2

      Sonic still a tier even after the nerf

    • @seenl6eight258
      @seenl6eight258 5 лет назад

      The Nikkerman ohh, really? I didn’t know that. But still, most characters even if they are F tier or whatever can still be decent if you know how to use them.

  • @rickjames5998
    @rickjames5998 5 лет назад +3

    sonic just lacks finishing power. Sad.

  • @HellRider_
    @HellRider_ 5 лет назад

    Gotta love the contrast of the older player using a younger character while the younger player uses an older character.

    • @jensennguyen02
      @jensennguyen02 5 лет назад +3

      I mean technically they both were introduced in the same game though so does it really count like that?

    • @HellRider_
      @HellRider_ 5 лет назад +1

      @@jensennguyen02 I meant that in their respective universes, Sonic is 15 while Wolf is in his late 20's/early 30's.

  • @loganmoreland7394
    @loganmoreland7394 5 лет назад +2

    😀

  • @amphilol8579
    @amphilol8579 5 лет назад

    Why isn’t ken playing marth tf?

    • @xeno4693
      @xeno4693 5 лет назад

      Chad Babar because he doesn’t have to. It’s his decision to chose who he wants to play.

    • @pwner369
      @pwner369 5 лет назад

      This isn’t melee Ken lol

  • @raphb1378
    @raphb1378 5 лет назад

    NO KEN!!!😭😅

  • @chadthundercock2069
    @chadthundercock2069 5 лет назад

    Sepheroph Ken?

    • @AntiSVH
      @AntiSVH 5 лет назад

      Chad Thundercock No, he left the smash scene years ago, this is other Ken!

  • @cobalt318
    @cobalt318 5 лет назад

    Ken did not do the greatest job here

  • @moi2924
    @moi2924 5 лет назад

    Jpensais que ken cetait celui qui avait le combo qui donnait le plus de dommage mdr lol javais pas vu sonic ce perso cancerigene

  • @luccasxf
    @luccasxf 5 лет назад

    prty gud

  • @ohk2792
    @ohk2792 5 лет назад +1

    what is this commentary :/

  • @ahmadkazan7994
    @ahmadkazan7994 4 года назад

    198%,and people laugh at shieks kill power..

  • @netweed09
    @netweed09 5 лет назад +3

    Wolf looking good,, hate saaanic

    • @SwagMaster824
      @SwagMaster824 5 лет назад +1

      Wolf will probably be Top tier in this game. He's very strong

    • @chowderdreemurr8810
      @chowderdreemurr8810 5 лет назад +3

      @@SwagMaster824 let's hope so
      Yes I'm a wolf main

  • @supersonic-hv4zo
    @supersonic-hv4zo 5 лет назад +2

    Wolf. Puto. Super Sonic. mata

  • @blankblank6853
    @blankblank6853 5 лет назад +1

    I don't mind ken but hate sonic. Glad he got nerfed

    • @jalencunningham2012
      @jalencunningham2012 5 лет назад +5

      Blank Blank the only thing that was truly nerfed was spin dash (and even then it’s still a decent move) mostly everything else was buffed. I’d say he would be bottom of high tier if I had to make a tier list.

    • @blankblank6853
      @blankblank6853 5 лет назад

      @@jalencunningham2012 yes I know, the part I didn't like was spin dash

    • @SwagMaster824
      @SwagMaster824 5 лет назад

      @@jalencunningham2012 not true his homing attack got severely nerfed and it's way slower now.

    • @nexalord4059
      @nexalord4059 5 лет назад +9

      Hahahahahahah looks we got a looser.

    • @deadzone6661
      @deadzone6661 5 лет назад +7

      @@SwagMaster824 you kidding me? It's one of his best moves now. Have you not been paying attention to how KEN was using it? I use homing attack a lot more and it's amazing. Very fast and can be used out of spin dash.

  • @andresedsson1194
    @andresedsson1194 5 лет назад

    Cute boys! :3