The fact that she is lecturing on such a fascinating subject in a language that isn't her first is very impressive. Just reminds me that both women and men are amazing. Every human is a gift of creation and should be celebrated.
Read "before we were trans" to understand what colonialism and eugenics did to gender minorities. Joel is the tip of the iceberg and she's still transphobic.
For the doubters: "Her new study, completed in in conjunction with other Tel Aviv University researchers, as well as scientists from the Max Planck Institute in Leipzig and the University of Zurich, was published November 30 in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS)."
I'm a part of the Leipzig collaboration, I regret working with Joel as she is GC and does not believe trans people. There is a fine line between claiming gender is nonsense and accepting all genders. She's also know for instrumentalising trans participants or collaborators at Tel Aviv U. Most recently she published "what is a woman" in "the journal of controversial ideas" a eugenics-promoting journal with articles about post-birth aborting crip/disabl(ed) people for any reason. Shes living her own "leaving the left" narrative at the moment. Literally nobody will work with her.
Actual neuroscience is increasingly saying the opposite of this talk - that the brain is in fact the most sexually differentiated organ after the genitals. Here's a study on male vs. female personality and how it differs to the point that one could say there are "two human natures", one male and one female: journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0029265
Professor Joel's research is definitely "actual neuroscience" (link to all her publications: people.socsci.tau.ac.il/mu/daphnajoel/academicpublications/ ) I don't know too much of neuroscience but from the little I know it seems like results can be easily manipulated (because we know so little of the brain). In that case I guess both assumptions could be wrong and strongly influenced from non-scientific agenda. Anyway I think just saying this isn't "actual neuroscience" is just patronizing and uneducated.
That personality study didn't seem to have any neuroscience in it at all -- it looks like what they did was a statistical analysis of a detailed personality survey. All that a study like that can tell you is that adult men and women tend to respond differently to survey questions of this kind. In principle, sex differences in personality survey answers could be completely due to differences in socialization (e.g. if men are indoctrinated to behave a certain way, or at the very least to give a certain kind of answer on a survey when questioned about it).
You are right, she has a long and impressive publication list in neuroscience. However, most of these publications are not related to the lecture above. Not so many of her papers are about sex and gender identity and they were published in the last 1-2 years. As I understand, she argues that brains/behavior of men and women very rarely possess all of "man-attributes" or "woman-attributes". I think, it's not a very original idea, of course, people are very different and can have attributes which are thought to be "manly" or "womanly". Beyond that the choice of "manly" and "womanly" attributes can be a very subjective decision (e.g., one can only be very masculine, if he plays golf and watches porn???), other methodological problems of these studies (e.g. statistical "tricks") were discussed in the following article: www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sexual-personalities/201512/statistical-abracadabra-making-sex-differences-disappear If you want "more scientific" arguments, see this paper in PNAS: www.pnas.org/content/113/14/E1965.full
So basically, what she's saying is that parts of the male brain resemble parts of the female brain and vice versa under OPPOSITE CIRCUMSTANCES. Thus, they still behave differently under the same conditions, clearly delineating a male brain from a female brain.
exactly. i don´t know what she thinks she´s proving. also, these changes are obviously not permanent, so I don´t think she argues very convincingly for her brain mosaic model. does the mothers stress level even affect the development significantly compared to the effect of testosterone? is the change in neuron morphology due to stress the same in fetal development as in adulthood? she´s just taking giant unjustified leaps.
am I the only one getting the impression that there is a BIG difference between Ted and Tedx talks......and that TEDx talks are often overburdened with ideology ? ? ?
+SeeTheViewFromAHill you have no idea how bad it is. It's pure fraud. /watch?v=a639WqynB90 Skeptorr's channel has has ones with male feminists speaking at tedx where the dishonesty is just as bad. Tedx has been little more than feminist propaganda for as far as I can remember.
+SeeTheViewFromAHill You are not mistaken. Ted tends to have evidence over ideology. Tedx has those reversed. Sure they use facts, but they only use half-truths and ignore all other facts associated with the convenient facts they mention.
It is mind boggling how she can use the data she presented as an argument against brain differences in sex. If anything, the data clearly reinforces sexual dimorphism of the brain as the male and female dendrites have *inverse* responses to stress by these tests. Yes, this means they are performing in opposition to one another under stressful conditions. How is another physiological difference observed in any way an argument against these very differences O_o?
lesmizzle Because at around 11:57 she seems to imply that the mother's stress actually reshapes the brain during fetal brain development which means people end up with "intersexed brains." I think she means to say a 100% male or female brain is so unlikely that it is never observed, and they are only theoretical concepts. I suppose the mother would never have to experience any stress during pregnancy for that to occur. Then, I think she is further positing that it is silly to refer to the brain in such a simplistic manner of male or female because that which was associated with being male and female (testosterone or lack thereof) is only one of many factors that influence the brain. Since the brain's uniqueness is determined by a lot more than just sex hormones it does not make sense to classify it solely based on that. Further, I'd be willing to bet that this is just the tip of the iceberg in variables that influence brain development. Sex hormones are easy pickings.
"Since the brain's uniqueness is determined by a lot more than just sex hormones it does not make sense to classify it solely based on that." Last I checked, male and female were not the only terms available to describe brains, and I've never heard anyone argue that they are. The basic truth: Males and females as groups *on average* exhibit differences in brain structure and hormonal function which are significant enough to be meaningful in how the brain is studied and understood. If someone says "the male brain" or "the female brain" it has meaning because you can conjure the average differences to which they are referring. Attempts to prove that there are no differences at this point are fallacious and embarrassing. Male and female brains are *similar* but not the *same*. Big difference in that distinction.
yup - exactly what I thought! from dentrite density under stress-test conditions to generalizations a la : all humans have male/femal brain mosiaques is preposterous
@@carlsande4635 Neuroplasticity is a very developed concept that discusses much more than "dendrite density under stress" . She only showed one example and that was dendrite density under stress.
Yeah her logic is exceptionally lacking. I noted something else. She claims on multiple occasions that we are a "mosaic of male and female brains" then proceeds to claim there are not male or female specific traits. Well then how is it a "mosaic" implying you can clearly recognize both male and female building blocks?
She made the argument that brains are intergendered... but she completely fails to take logical reasoning into account when making that argument. If a brain was intersexual, it would mean that the amount of dendrites would either increase or decrease due to stress REGARDLESS of the gender of the subject the brain matter was taken from... HOWEVER... The reaction of the dendrites to stress was demonstrated to be very CLEARLY DIFFERENT due to gender... in point of fact, INVERSELY different. In males, the dendrites increase, whereas in females, the dendrites decrease. This shows a very CLEAR and CAUSAL difference between gender, and the effects of stress on the brain... whereas her argument was to say that brains aren't gendered... that they are interchangeable. She just proved her case completely false. Way to go Tedx. Once again you bamboozle the crowd into thinking completely crackpot things are true, even when the evidence you present refutes everything you are saying.
I noticed the same thing.... what she showed just showed that there are differences between male and female brains.... In normal occasion the dendrites was less in male brain and more in female brain... In stress the dendrites were more in male brain and less in female brain... This is what he showed...
Interesting talk! Those sex "thinking abilities" differences attributed to morphological brain differences always seem ridiculous: It is clear that a person is much more similar in his way of thinking to his parents (regardless their sex) than to that of any other person of the same sex chosen randomly . That means that the statistical differences related to a gender are negligible. If environmental influences further affect the morphology then all this comparisons really seem meaningless.
At 14:47 Professor Daphna Joel states "We now know hundreds of differences between the brains of men and women." So differences exist. If an outside stimulus causes a male brain to behave more like a female brain that is not experiencing that stimulus (as in the example given), the difference in response to the stimulus is another difference between male and female.
I'm not a neuro-scientist or anything, but a few points on the logic of this and some things i thought I'd point out. 1. Has there been any studies to show that those specific aspects of the brain that 'change sex' are just normally/naturally responsive to stress? 2. Of course no one has a wholly male brain or wholly female brain, just like not everyone is wholly male or female (females and males both have differing levels on testosterone and estrogen is one example). But we label someone as male or female, or, in this case, label brains as male and female based on many characteristics as a whole. We don't focus on just the size of the brain (now at least) to determine whether it's male or female, but every part of the brain as a whole. Just something to think about.
The fact that the dendrites are never in the same state in each environment would suggest the complete opposite of what she's claiming. She hasn't really explained the significance of the spines in terms of behaviour, but assuming they are and hence making her point relevant, you would expect different behaviour from either sex in a particular environment. She's provided a very subjective take on things, can't help but feel it panders to the feminist agenda.
She says there's no male and female brains, but there are male and female characteristics, and she doesn't define what those are. If the stressed female neuron is similar to a non-stressed male neuron - which one of the two characteristic (many / few dendrites) is male and which female? No there's no binary male and female brains, but there is a biphasic sexual dimorphism of the brain with a wide overlap.
Personally I believe she’s right. Without gender roles and societal programming people would partake in characteristics that are stereotypically male/female in our society. Male and female brains don’t exist because we all have both innately until society impacts our way of thinking which happens every day.
I understand what you are saying, however a scientist shouldn't speak in certainties, they should speak in what the evidence points to. The point of science is that it really isn't certain of anything, it's just that some theories are proven true time and time again.
what about boys or girls that over compensate to prove they are what is expected of there asigned gender, then later on in life, 20, 30, 40, or older, they come out to family and loved ones, but all they know is to act macho or feminine. this is my case inside i feel female out side is totally and obviously male. and its killing me, im 45 and risk losing everything.
I disagree with her statements because it doesn't take into account the resting state of the brain without influences. Of course the brain will change characteristics based on influences in the environment and genetics (neuroplasticity), but that doesn't attempt to evaluate why the brain comes to those changes or how those changes affect future development, or measure for how long these changes last.
For all of you who claim she has no right to talk about neuro-science, I suggest you read her study. If she still doesn't satisfy your need to fit into one or the other which is characteristic of "a Western state of mind", check out the work of actual neuro-scientist Gina Rippon who has made a similar conclusion.
As a Neuropsychologist I can say that she is looking for information correctly but she is wrong in the conclusion, of course there are differences between the brain of women and men, just as there are differences between the body of men and women, and it is true that neurotransmitters can change certain aspects of the body but (and here comes where she is wrong) this does not change the origin, for example in a broader and simpler way so that all can understand, if a woman due to a specific situation increases her testosterone in her body, we do not say "oh she has a man's body now" because it is only certain aspects that change, her woman's body is not only defined by testosterone, using this example, it's like a little monkey said some words correctly and the doctor said, "oh here's a human, here is a mosaic between monkey and human." (again I am trying to explain this in a very simple and coarse way). So of course, although some microbasic aspects change with the environment, such as stress, it does not mean that now the organ has changed to be male, for example, I hope she continues researching and studying because she has potential but she definitely have to continue studying😉
Group stats don't predict individual stats on their own. Humans have a complete overlap of form and function between xx/xy even if sections of the distribution are skewed the overlap people still exist and are valid human lives. As a neuropsychologist, you should probably do more to wrap your head around the fact that averages are the least interesting measures in comparative studies, they are simply a layperson's Index and they do a poor job at that. All that said, Daphna Joel hates trans people, her whole thing is that gender does not exist. I.e. she is gender critical and follows kathleen stock. Whatever, ya'll are eugenicists anyways.
Bueno pero ella no esta diciendo q un hombre es lo mismo que una mujer. Solo dice que los cerebros de ambos tienen características q comparten, y asi son cerebros "ambiguos", o algo asi es lo q le entendí yo
What? Male and Female are THE two sexes, thus anatomical and psychological differences are inherent. Our innate differences is what gave rise to how we perceive the identities of the sexes, and stereotypical societal roles. These weren't initiated one day and somehow managed to stick ever since. Identity, role in society, and most other stereotypes pertaining to the sexes are the reasonable results of our biology.
So..you;re saying that there is no female and no male brain, but that everyone's brain is a 'mosaic' of female and male characteristics?? But the there have to be 'male' and 'female' brain characteristics, and you just said... I guess she's too smart for me.
you have to take environmental factors of the present and past into account (sexism's influence on education and society sticks with us strongly today)
Males have larger parietal lobe and better connectivity from front to back within the hemisphere which is responsible for spatial ability and abstract thought.
TED is a good idea but why have a professor of psychology taking about neuroscience in without any scientific proof? Isn´t there some kind of filter function withing TED to maintain a academic high level or at least a demand to reference to a valid study?
CSF performs vital functions including: Support; Shock absorber; Homeostasis; Nutrition; Immune function. These functions have no cognitive or psychological, neurological differences. Which is what this video discusses.
She barely talked about brain hemispherical interactions which, many studies on children proved that crucial differences exist between the two genders.
***** I am not even trying as hard as you are.I am not debating.But yes I have seen a masculine guy want to talk about the problem and hug someone.It is just that they do not do that in front of a large group of people,because the people may think the guy is being a cry baby.
it just means male brains and female brains react to stress differently, it does not mean the old theory is wrong. for example: a man, while not stressed, can be unaware and unresponsive to the environment. but once stressed the man becomes focused on detecting danger in his environment. woman on the other hand are constantly aware to their environment and are looking for danger, but when stressed, woman panic and loose focus. her example does not refute male and female brains, it affirms it.
The talk nicely demonstrates very clear differences btw M and F brains; however, the main finding re. sex-dependent stress responses is a beautiful demonstration for those differences... The fact that under DIFFERENT conditions M and F brains seem similar and vice versa exemplifies differences not similarities...Thus, although the findings are interesting, the conclusions seem flawed.
This is one way of seeing things. There are obvious differences in behavior that are related to hormones and genetics that affect our in vitro life. I think the matter is what concepts, what WORDS we are using to talk about this. There are no FEMALE brains or MALE brains when we refer to the actual organ. Both male and female brains look the same and the differences in size and volume are not THAT relevant. But when we consider behavior, likes, preferences, studies show there is a difference between boys and girls that have not yet been influenced by the environment. I would consider this point of view as it is. Another way of thinking about a complex subject. Nothing is conclusive and I am sure we will spend years trying to know THE TRUTH. I still agree with Daphna's idea of being yourself and embrace the way you are leaving aside the standards by which some people raise their kids just because you are a boy or a girl. Interesting talk.
So there is a physical difference in a M and F brain between size and “holes”. That might not have an impact on the function of the brain itself but there is a physical difference.
If that's the case doesn't this invalidate research into how people are gay or trans? Does stress change the shape of the brain permanently? So this doesn't seem to really disprove sex differences in the brain. It seems to say that our brains are more similar under stress. This is a bit dubious. Of course there isn't a strict 100% male or female brain. No one of any group is ever really the same. Aren't "female" and "male" just general terms to refer to certain general patterns? Like females brains are more female than male brains, even her little graphic depicted that. This doesn't disprove a (general) male or female brain, just a pure one.
That's what i just thought, about gays and trans people... if the brain its a mixture of the 2 sexes (as she said), then the theory of homossexual people its invalid..! The theory of homossexual is basically this: their sex is determined during the pregnancy in their brains, but it occurs an error in physical determination. In other words, the sex established in the brain will not coincide with the physical appearance. Which means that homossexual its not a genetic error, but an individuals choice (as she said, we are born with a mixture of 2 types of brain, male and female, it behooves us to choose which side we want to turn ...) And this changes a lot of things!!
Beatriz Basilio "homossexual its not a genetic error" First, it's not an error, second just because it lacks a genetic component doesn't alternatively make it a choice. Did you ever think that it could also a social by product?
sailornaruto39 they say it is a genetic error... do a research. well, not an error, but its influenced by the genes, it is programed before you're even born. and its influenced by the interaction with the environment too. it doesn't lack any genetic component at all........
Beatriz Basilio Then why did you call it an error? I've looked into the research and I'm not completely convinced, most of them are just theories that try REALLY hard to explain any implications that might make them false. But I don't really care though, be it genetic, social or even a choice, it bears no moral weight.
sailornaruto39 i called it an error because that's how it was explained to me. i don't care either.. i'm not apologist of any theory, and i don't find homossexuality a problem. i'm just trying to understand where it comes from, just like you
Y Quirn determina los comportamientos femeninos o masculinos? ERROR. Si el hombre expresa su enojo o tristeza llorando. Es femenino? O si le encantan las flores ,es femenino? ERROR. He visto mujeres reaccionando violenta mente ante la frustración y a hombres llorar ante la misma frustracion. La historia está llena de ejemplo de mujeres que ante la adversidad han tenido caracter y emociones de hierro. Y a hombres derrumbarse ante el mismo suceso. LA TERNURA? a caso no han visto hombres que en un matrimonio son mas tiernos con sus hijos que la madre? QUIEN DETERMINÓ LAS CARACTERÍSTICAS o comportamientos masculinos o femeninos,? A caso no han visto a hombres tranquilizar a sus mujeres ante algun suceso inesperado durante el trafico en las horas pico en una ciudad? Tiene a caso el cerebro de un poeta HOMBRE razgos femeninos porque tiene la capacidad de ver en una flor o en la sonrisa de un niño, cosas que un hombre o mujer común no ve? NO ERREMOS. No hay rasgos femeninos o masculinos. Solo hay una morfologia que la naturaleza determina en su genética y en cuya informscion de ADN dice. Hombre o mojer. Y aunque un hombre o mujer quiera cambiar esta condición, pueden pasar 5000 años y su ADN seguirá diciendo HOMBRF O MUJER,
Would it be reasonable to do these tests on xxy’s to see if they differ from xy and xx to see whether they compeer to ever male or female in brain paten.
And that is about stress handling? Telephone operators were mostly women. How is being g a 911 operator especially stressful. You handle the call and the switch to the next one. In business world you live with the decisions night and day and livelihood of thousands can handle in balance.
how was she even allowed on stage to talk about this non sense? Its like she's never heard of or talked to a neurologist ever about any of the things she's talking about.
I noticed an important thing and that is her words are not matching her evidence.... what she showed just showed that there are differences between male and female brains.... In normal occasion the dendrites was less in male brain and more in female brain... In stress the dendrites were more in male brain and less in female brain... This is what he showed...
Key word is disputes. She does not use a scientific method credible in mainstream science to prove anything. Or u can put your faith in scientist that can prove women and men have certain strengths. AND MASSISIVE biological differences .
She just proved the opposite of what she wanted to argue. Thanks for proving that there are major differences. Please..... somebody help her!! That's right HER!
Does not explain the thousands of years of men hunting and gathering...while women stayed home with the children. It is indeed innate correlated to the physical differences of our bodies as well. Times are changing now and people can always go outside of nature, but you can not negate the natural instincts of the male to protect and the woman to calm the protector down ;)
IndigoVoice82 It is nice how you fit the 50s gender roles to hunter gatherers. In reality men hunted and women gathered. There were no free riders. In general most of the history and prehistory women have taken directly part i making the living. It was only as the result of the industrial revolution when a sharp divide between work life sand free time was born that women mostly were separated from directly earning the living.
Factor overlap is true. The more precise the greater the variation between the sexes. The primary differences being agreeableness and responding with approval/disapproval versus disagreeableness and responding with truth/falsehood. As for the dendrites, it's nonsense. Dendritic growth = memory formation, and male and female biology evolved to adapt to, and remembers stresses differently - for obvious reasons. Pop pseudoscience.
that's confusing I fund several studies saying the oposite, female and male brain has subtancial differents for example female brain have more density and more neural development on some specific areas, lenguaje for example and most intercommunication between both side of the brain.
I don't 100% agree with this. I agree that there are masculine and feminine characteristics in the brain, that would explain why everyone has masculine and feminine traits but there are differences. You can't just erase the fact that there are differences in the brain. There are differences that do distinguish men and women, but this is not necessarily a bad thing. The differences in our brains do not determine a woman's or man's ability, that is just sexist thinking but differences do exist, which is why Gender is a thing. You have completely disregarded Transsexualism too.
That's because her underlying deposition is 100%, utterly false. Also, what does transsexualism have to do with anything? It's validity is highly contested and it's politicized even more so.
Garrett1240 ...because researching brain studies on transsexualism myself, there is neurological evidence to show that there are gender differences in the brain between men and women, when being looked at between trans and cis people's brains, structure and size for example. So the woman in this video saying that there are no differences is completely disregarding the research we have on transsexualism and what we have towards finding gender identity.
Caleb F What exactly do you mean by "transsexualism"? From what I have learned, 'transsexualism' as I understand you to mean it, is likely a mental illness emerging from hormonal imbalances in the womb. Of course I can't be confident of that, but many health organizations believe that to be the case, and there's others who do not. Is this not the case? Also define transsexualism.
Garrett1240 No, it's not a mental illness. That's an outdated "medical" definition and what bigots jump to use to defend their hate and lack of understanding. Transsexualism is the general medical term (usually used in studies) to describe a person who is Trans and has Gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria is a condition in which a person's gender and sex do not match and leads to distress and discomfort because their body is different to that of their gender and how it *should* look. So why is it not a mental illness? ...because it is to do with gender and the way your brain is biologically structured. Gender is internal. For example, if someone suddenly told you that you had to be the opposite gender now, you would most likely be able to present and socialise typically of that gender but your internal sense of being (male or female, depending on your gender) would remain. This is because you are born with a gender that loosely connects with your sex, so should match but is not tied as they are different things. This is the case with trans people; we are born with a gender different to our sex. The example I gave you only touches on the social aspects but imagine it was your social identity and your physical body at odds with your gender. Furthermore, it is not a mental illness because there is simply nothing "ill" with their brain, it's that their gender is their gender and you can't change that. What *is* wrong is their body and the way it developed. It's similar to when people used to say (well some still say) that homosexuality is a mental disorder/illness and has to be cured but the fact is, is that there is nothing *to* cure, it's their sexuality and you can't change that. It's well known that the medical field is growing since the past and now recognises Gender dysphoria as a medical condition and not a mental illness.
Caleb F Nothing you said about gender dysphoria or transsexualism is 100% agreed upon among scientists. The DSM and others are all heavily politicized. You also didn't use any science to back your claims.
Ive watched this four times because a guy sent it to me and i keep trying to explain that the entire video is not only contradictory but poorly conducted. I get her points but the more she speaks she disproves them.
They say Women are from venus and Men from Mars but maybe this can alternate also and maybe at the root cause and the truth is that maybe they are backwards ..example: Women make Men fight for them and almost always have men do everything for them whereas males fight and supposedly we are not supposed to fall in love or nice for we become weak? ..how so idk but anyway Conclusion: this is why we are billions because we are engineered backwards? And our species is more negative than positive (not sure if G-d or the universe intended it this way) but nice people suffer while defensive people succeed ..I think and gather that women their strength is higher then men mentally not enotionally but both and can alternate , males we can alternate also but the opposite happens we become unsuccessful ? ..its a Womens World ! Not a mans. It only appears that it's a mans brain because women let it happen not because either or is superior...I think religion unbalances brains also to the liking of the society and what's interesting in the wild or animals work the opposite !!! Mahbe humans are lowered than animals not higher too ????????
Emotionally it depends some men are emotionally weak and some women are emotionally weak too and some are strong who know how to tackle depression, stress and idk why crying makes anyone weak i never understood that. men and women cry when something bad happen with them thats really natural and normal
I agree with pretty much everything there, except for one thing. If there are statistical differences between the sexes, then to say both sexes have equivalent brains on a statistical scale is manifestly false. The idea that any individual has one or other type of brain because they are male or female is absurd, and is a straw man representation of the position that biology influences the social hierarchy.
@@Tectonictaless doesn't matter who wrote them or whether or not they're true, my point stands. I have to assume English isn't your first language and you missed the important nuance due to the word "if".
She's a neuroscientist. And you are??? What? A slob of a couch potato who can't keep your own body healthy for your own sake. Yeah. No. You have zero sense of accountability and sense of personal responsibility. SO YEAH SURE YOU'RE MORE REASONABLE. OBV /s
Learn to do science before claiming that a published work (in one of the highly reputed journals) is pseudoscience. You are free to disagree with the conclusion and show us your experimental data.
I don't 100% agree with this. I agree that there are masculine and feminine characteristics in the brain, that would explain why everyone has masculine and feminine traits but there are differences. You can't just erase the fact that there are differences in the brain. There are differences that do distinguish men and women, but this is not necessarily a bad thing. The differences in our brains do not determine a woman's or man's ability, that is just sexist thinking but differences do exist, which is why Gender is a thing. You have completely disregarded Transsexualism too.
how was she even allowed on stage to talk about this non sense? Its like she's never heard of or talked to a neurologist ever about any of the things she's talking about.
The fact that she is lecturing on such a fascinating subject in a language that isn't her first is very impressive. Just reminds me that both women and men are amazing. Every human is a gift of creation and should be celebrated.
She remains a lying propagandist
I love her! I've been sooo challenged with different thoughts I've had in the past..this has giving me so much clarity ! Thank you 😊
Read "before we were trans" to understand what colonialism and eugenics did to gender minorities.
Joel is the tip of the iceberg and she's still transphobic.
For the doubters:
"Her new study, completed in in conjunction with other Tel Aviv University researchers, as well as scientists from the Max Planck Institute in Leipzig and the University of Zurich, was published November 30 in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS)."
I'm a part of the Leipzig collaboration, I regret working with Joel as she is GC and does not believe trans people.
There is a fine line between claiming gender is nonsense and accepting all genders.
She's also know for instrumentalising trans participants or collaborators at Tel Aviv U. Most recently she published "what is a woman" in "the journal of controversial ideas" a eugenics-promoting journal with articles about post-birth aborting crip/disabl(ed) people for any reason. Shes living her own "leaving the left" narrative at the moment. Literally nobody will work with her.
For all the people saying there are no citations, the main article she is talking about is at 00:08:26 Get owned.
we don't need citations who doesn't have citations too, we already know that hormones - drugs, affect the wiring and the development of the brain
Actual neuroscience is increasingly saying the opposite of this talk - that the brain is in fact the most sexually differentiated organ after the genitals. Here's a study on male vs. female personality and how it differs to the point that one could say there are "two human natures", one male and one female: journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0029265
Professor Joel's research is definitely "actual neuroscience"
(link to all her publications: people.socsci.tau.ac.il/mu/daphnajoel/academicpublications/ )
I don't know too much of neuroscience but from the little I know it seems like results can be easily manipulated (because we know so little of the brain). In that case I guess both assumptions could be wrong and strongly influenced from non-scientific agenda. Anyway I think just saying this isn't "actual neuroscience" is just patronizing and uneducated.
That personality study didn't seem to have any neuroscience in it at all -- it looks like what they did was a statistical analysis of a detailed personality survey. All that a study like that can tell you is that adult men and women tend to respond differently to survey questions of this kind. In principle, sex differences in personality survey answers could be completely due to differences in socialization (e.g. if men are indoctrinated to behave a certain way, or at the very least to give a certain kind of answer on a survey when questioned about it).
You are right, she has a long and impressive publication list in neuroscience. However, most of these publications are not related to the lecture above. Not so many of her papers are about sex and gender identity and they were published in the last 1-2 years. As I understand, she argues that brains/behavior of men and women very rarely possess all of "man-attributes" or "woman-attributes". I think, it's not a very original idea, of course, people are very different and can have attributes which are thought to be "manly" or "womanly". Beyond that the choice of "manly" and "womanly" attributes can be a very subjective decision (e.g., one can only be very masculine, if he plays golf and watches porn???), other methodological problems of these studies (e.g. statistical "tricks") were discussed in the following article:
www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sexual-personalities/201512/statistical-abracadabra-making-sex-differences-disappear
If you want "more scientific" arguments, see this paper in PNAS:
www.pnas.org/content/113/14/E1965.full
a blitz, that at least was an argument
Evan Cary thanks.
In ted talks they love to say "it transformed my thinking" and "it transformed my life"
How upbeat we are.
It really irritates me that they all seem to have the same format also
So basically, what she's saying is that parts of the male brain resemble parts of the female brain and vice versa under OPPOSITE CIRCUMSTANCES. Thus, they still behave differently under the same conditions, clearly delineating a male brain from a female brain.
exactly. i don´t know what she thinks she´s proving. also, these changes are obviously not permanent, so I don´t think she argues very convincingly for her brain mosaic model. does the mothers stress level even affect the development significantly compared to the effect of testosterone? is the change in neuron morphology due to stress the same in fetal development as in adulthood? she´s just taking giant unjustified leaps.
I think you totally misreading her words..
@@vikipoyta the difference is caused by conditioning not testosterone
@@kimmmwest4641 I don't really remember what this was about tbh but conditioning by what effect/mechanism?
am I the only one getting the impression that there is a BIG difference between Ted and Tedx talks......and that TEDx talks are often overburdened with ideology ? ? ?
+SeeTheViewFromAHill I hear you
+Nik Kingman Radical Feminism.
+SeeTheViewFromAHill No, that's been pretty obvious for years.
+SeeTheViewFromAHill you have no idea how bad it is.
It's pure fraud.
/watch?v=a639WqynB90
Skeptorr's channel has has ones with male feminists speaking at tedx where the dishonesty is just as bad.
Tedx has been little more than feminist propaganda for as far as I can remember.
+SeeTheViewFromAHill
You are not mistaken. Ted tends to have evidence over ideology. Tedx has those reversed. Sure they use facts, but they only use half-truths and ignore all other facts associated with the convenient facts they mention.
It is mind boggling how she can use the data she presented as an argument against brain differences in sex. If anything, the data clearly reinforces sexual dimorphism of the brain as the male and female dendrites have *inverse* responses to stress by these tests. Yes, this means they are performing in opposition to one another under stressful conditions. How is another physiological difference observed in any way an argument against these very differences O_o?
lesmizzle Because at around 11:57 she seems to imply that the mother's stress actually reshapes the brain during fetal brain development which means people end up with "intersexed brains." I think she means to say a 100% male or female brain is so unlikely that it is never observed, and they are only theoretical concepts. I suppose the mother would never have to experience any stress during pregnancy for that to occur. Then, I think she is further positing that it is silly to refer to the brain in such a simplistic manner of male or female because that which was associated with being male and female (testosterone or lack thereof) is only one of many factors that influence the brain. Since the brain's uniqueness is determined by a lot more than just sex hormones it does not make sense to classify it solely based on that. Further, I'd be willing to bet that this is just the tip of the iceberg in variables that influence brain development. Sex hormones are easy pickings.
"Since the brain's uniqueness is determined by a lot more than just sex hormones it does not make sense to classify it solely based on that."
Last I checked, male and female were not the only terms available to describe brains, and I've never heard anyone argue that they are.
The basic truth: Males and females as groups *on average* exhibit differences in brain structure and hormonal function which are significant enough to be meaningful in how the brain is studied and understood.
If someone says "the male brain" or "the female brain" it has meaning because you can conjure the average differences to which they are referring.
Attempts to prove that there are no differences at this point are fallacious and embarrassing. Male and female brains are *similar* but not the *same*. Big difference in that distinction.
yup - exactly what I thought!
from dentrite density under stress-test conditions to generalizations a la : all humans have male/femal brain mosiaques is preposterous
@@carlsande4635 Neuroplasticity is a very developed concept that discusses much more than "dendrite density under stress" . She only showed one example and that was dendrite density under stress.
Yeah her logic is exceptionally lacking. I noted something else. She claims on multiple occasions that we are a "mosaic of male and female brains" then proceeds to claim there are not male or female specific traits. Well then how is it a "mosaic" implying you can clearly recognize both male and female building blocks?
This knowledge is a game changer! Thank you so much!
she's a lying propagandist
She made the argument that brains are intergendered... but she completely fails to take logical reasoning into account when making that argument.
If a brain was intersexual, it would mean that the amount of dendrites would either increase or decrease due to stress REGARDLESS of the gender of the subject the brain matter was taken from...
HOWEVER...
The reaction of the dendrites to stress was demonstrated to be very CLEARLY DIFFERENT due to gender... in point of fact, INVERSELY different. In males, the dendrites increase, whereas in females, the dendrites decrease.
This shows a very CLEAR and CAUSAL difference between gender, and the effects of stress on the brain... whereas her argument was to say that brains aren't gendered... that they are interchangeable.
She just proved her case completely false.
Way to go Tedx. Once again you bamboozle the crowd into thinking completely crackpot things are true, even when the evidence you present refutes everything you are saying.
Exactly what I was thinking
It's a matter of averages. Not all men have fewer dendrites.
I noticed the same thing.... what she showed just showed that there are differences between male and female brains.... In normal occasion the dendrites was less in male brain and more in female brain... In stress the dendrites were more in male brain and less in female brain... This is what he showed...
I am a cognitive scientist and was about to point this out. Well played.
I also think the Stanford study this year with the AI recognition model absolutely debunked her mosaic paper.
Interesting talk! Those sex "thinking abilities" differences attributed to morphological brain differences always seem ridiculous: It is clear that a person is much more similar in his way of thinking to his parents (regardless their sex) than to that of any other person of the same sex chosen randomly . That means that the statistical differences related to a gender are negligible. If environmental influences further affect the morphology then all this comparisons really seem meaningless.
Daphna hates trans people, by the way, she's arguing that gender is not real.
At 14:47 Professor Daphna Joel states "We now know hundreds of differences between the brains of men and women." So differences exist. If an outside stimulus causes a male brain to behave more like a female brain that is not experiencing that stimulus (as in the example given), the difference in response to the stimulus is another difference between male and female.
I'm not a neuro-scientist or anything, but a few points on the logic of this and some things i thought I'd point out.
1. Has there been any studies to show that those specific aspects of the brain that 'change sex' are just normally/naturally responsive to stress?
2. Of course no one has a wholly male brain or wholly female brain, just like not everyone is wholly male or female (females and males both have differing levels on testosterone and estrogen is one example). But we label someone as male or female, or, in this case, label brains as male and female based on many characteristics as a whole. We don't focus on just the size of the brain (now at least) to determine whether it's male or female, but every part of the brain as a whole.
Just something to think about.
+Jayce Ray Hall : good thinking!
We are only all female or all male . There is no less or more female or partially female.
The fact that the dendrites are never in the same state in each environment would suggest the complete opposite of what she's claiming. She hasn't really explained the significance of the spines in terms of behaviour, but assuming they are and hence making her point relevant, you would expect different behaviour from either sex in a particular environment. She's provided a very subjective take on things, can't help but feel it panders to the feminist agenda.
She says there's no male and female brains, but there are male and female characteristics, and she doesn't define what those are. If the stressed female neuron is similar to a non-stressed male neuron - which one of the two characteristic (many / few dendrites) is male and which female? No there's no binary male and female brains, but there is a biphasic sexual dimorphism of the brain with a wide overlap.
Personally I believe she’s right. Without gender roles and societal programming people would partake in characteristics that are stereotypically male/female in our society. Male and female brains don’t exist because we all have both innately until society impacts our way of thinking which happens every day.
It's good that brains don't have sex, that would be a mess.
How can she as a scientist speak in such certainties? Unprofessional.
I understand what you are saying, however a scientist shouldn't speak in certainties, they should speak in what the evidence points to. The point of science is that it really isn't certain of anything, it's just that some theories are proven true time and time again.
If you learn about her work, you'll realize that this nothing but professional. Her study is based on 5500 cases. :)
what about boys or girls that over compensate to prove they are what is expected of there asigned gender, then later on in life, 20, 30, 40, or older, they come out to family and loved ones, but all they know is to act macho or feminine. this is my case inside i feel female out side is totally and obviously male. and its killing me, im 45 and risk losing everything.
You can't go feel female you just enjoy feminine things.
I disagree with her statements because it doesn't take into account the resting state of the brain without influences. Of course the brain will change characteristics based on influences in the environment and genetics (neuroplasticity), but that doesn't attempt to evaluate why the brain comes to those changes or how those changes affect future development, or measure for how long these changes last.
Why : It can occur as a result of learning, experience, and memory formation, or as a result of damage to the brain.
How : She explained it.
For all of you who claim she has no right to talk about neuro-science, I suggest you read her study. If she still doesn't satisfy your need to fit into one or the other which is characteristic of "a Western state of mind", check out the work of actual neuro-scientist Gina Rippon who has made a similar conclusion.
Joel's claims are ridiculous. The data actually show the opposite. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4833280/
As a Neuropsychologist I can say that she is looking for information correctly but she is wrong in the conclusion, of course there are differences between the brain of women and men, just as there are differences between the body of men and women, and it is true that neurotransmitters can change certain aspects of the body but (and here comes where she is wrong) this does not change the origin, for example in a broader and simpler way so that all can understand, if a woman due to a specific situation increases her testosterone in her body, we do not say "oh she has a man's body now" because it is only certain aspects that change, her woman's body is not only defined by testosterone, using this example, it's like a little monkey said some words correctly and the doctor said, "oh here's a human, here is a mosaic between monkey and human." (again I am trying to explain this in a very simple and coarse way). So of course, although some microbasic aspects change with the environment, such as stress, it does not mean that now the organ has changed to be male, for example, I hope she continues researching and studying because she has potential but she definitely have to continue studying😉
Group stats don't predict individual stats on their own. Humans have a complete overlap of form and function between xx/xy even if sections of the distribution are skewed the overlap people still exist and are valid human lives.
As a neuropsychologist, you should probably do more to wrap your head around the fact that averages are the least interesting measures in comparative studies, they are simply a layperson's Index and they do a poor job at that.
All that said, Daphna Joel hates trans people, her whole thing is that gender does not exist. I.e. she is gender critical and follows kathleen stock.
Whatever, ya'll are eugenicists anyways.
Bueno pero ella no esta diciendo q un hombre es lo mismo que una mujer. Solo dice que los cerebros de ambos tienen características q comparten, y asi son cerebros "ambiguos", o algo asi es lo q le entendí yo
what is different is both the identity (as male or female), and the role in society, which in turn sets up feedback loops.
What? Male and Female are THE two sexes, thus anatomical and psychological differences are inherent. Our innate differences is what gave rise to how we perceive the identities of the sexes, and stereotypical societal roles. These weren't initiated one day and somehow managed to stick ever since. Identity, role in society, and most other stereotypes pertaining to the sexes are the reasonable results of our biology.
My natural, untrained 18+" arms and record setting/holding deadlift is due to feedback loops
@@lockandloadlikehell confidence issues
@@lockandloadlikehell people are talking about brain differences and gender roles in society and this dude starts talking about his dead lift xD
So..you;re saying that there is no female and no male brain, but that everyone's brain is a 'mosaic' of female and male characteristics?? But the there have to be 'male' and 'female' brain characteristics, and you just said... I guess she's too smart for me.
Why are there more men studying engineering than women?
@Logan Cranston Women's World Chess too.
perhaps society
you have to take environmental factors of the present and past into account (sexism's influence on education and society sticks with us strongly today)
@Logan Cranston it’s not biologically determined but my observation is pertinent and not meant to offend.
Males have larger parietal lobe and better connectivity from front to back within the hemisphere which is responsible for spatial ability and abstract thought.
Yes she is 100% true , there is no male or female brain , brain is intersex , she is right !!!! I THINK SO ! I support her ! Thank you madam
You can believe what you like friend...it doesn't make it scientifically correct, But it sounds like the path of least resistant for you.
@@beth3920 Why you are here if you dont believe in her reasearch then??
TED is a good idea but why have a professor of psychology taking about neuroscience in without any scientific proof? Isn´t there some kind of filter function withing TED to maintain a academic high level or at least a demand to reference to a valid study?
+Andy Fone Well IQ is a psychological concept yet society seems to take that for granted even though Neuroscientists have proven it's bullshit.
+DarkTriad What scientific paper say its "bullshit"?
Andy Fone www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/12/121219133334.htm
www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/03/150317112034.htm
Major Mittens still sad that there is no rules to keep good scientific quality.
+DarkTriad in your opinion, have these papers altered the international scientific view of IQ as "bullshit"
ventricles are not empty, they are filled with CSF fluid ,which have very important functions.
exactly
CSF performs vital functions including: Support; Shock absorber; Homeostasis; Nutrition; Immune function. These functions have no cognitive or psychological, neurological differences. Which is what this video discusses.
She barely talked about brain hemispherical interactions which, many studies on children proved that crucial differences exist between the two genders.
So does Daphna Joel mean to say that women who went through more stress during pregnancy have a baby with more masculine traits than feminine?
Baby s gender is not depend on amout of stress a pregnant woman takes 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@samikshaper6927 how do you know?
Does anyone know which article has the info about the stress changing the sex of the brain!?!?!?
That seems like a personal opinion or generalization. I'm asking for data from experiments. Thanks.
+vegaskidd I am a female.I want to just drop the subject.What now.
***** it is not true that most men just want to drop the subject though
***** I am not even trying as hard as you are.I am not debating.But yes I have seen a masculine guy want to talk about the problem and hug someone.It is just that they do not do that in front of a large group of people,because the people may think the guy is being a cry baby.
***** I am sorry,do you mean masculine as in personality or what not,or masculine as in masculine in the body.
it just means male brains and female brains react to stress differently, it does not mean the old theory is wrong. for example:
a man, while not stressed, can be unaware and unresponsive to the environment. but once stressed the man becomes focused on detecting danger in his environment.
woman on the other hand are constantly aware to their environment and are looking for danger, but when stressed, woman panic and loose focus.
her example does not refute male and female brains, it affirms it.
The talk nicely demonstrates very clear differences btw M and F brains; however, the main finding re. sex-dependent stress responses is a beautiful demonstration for those differences... The fact that under DIFFERENT conditions M and F brains seem similar and vice versa exemplifies differences not similarities...Thus, although the findings are interesting, the conclusions seem flawed.
i though females had thicker fibers that connect the two brain hemispheres, than do males...
This is one way of seeing things. There are obvious differences in behavior that are related to hormones and genetics that affect our in vitro life. I think the matter is what concepts, what WORDS we are using to talk about this. There are no FEMALE brains or MALE brains when we refer to the actual organ. Both male and female brains look the same and the differences in size and volume are not THAT relevant. But when we consider behavior, likes, preferences, studies show there is a difference between boys and girls that have not yet been influenced by the environment. I would consider this point of view as it is. Another way of thinking about a complex subject. Nothing is conclusive and I am sure we will spend years trying to know THE TRUTH. I still agree with Daphna's idea of being yourself and embrace the way you are leaving aside the standards by which some people raise their kids just because you are a boy or a girl. Interesting talk.
So there is a physical difference in a M and F brain between size and “holes”. That might not have an impact on the function of the brain itself but there is a physical difference.
You can't talk about the brain in isolation. Brain connects to muscle, muscle feeds back to brain. etc.
If that's the case doesn't this invalidate research into how people are gay or trans?
Does stress change the shape of the brain permanently? So this doesn't seem to really disprove sex differences in the brain. It seems to say that our brains are more similar under stress. This is a bit dubious.
Of course there isn't a strict 100% male or female brain. No one of any group is ever really the same. Aren't "female" and "male" just general terms to refer to certain general patterns? Like females brains are more female than male brains, even her little graphic depicted that.
This doesn't disprove a (general) male or female brain, just a pure one.
That's what i just thought, about gays and trans people... if the brain its a mixture of the 2 sexes (as she said), then the theory of homossexual people its invalid..! The theory of homossexual is basically this: their sex is determined during the pregnancy in their brains, but it occurs an error in physical determination. In other words, the sex established in the brain will not coincide with the physical appearance. Which means that homossexual its not a genetic error, but an individuals choice (as she said, we are born with a mixture of 2 types of brain, male and female, it behooves us to choose which side we want to turn ...) And this changes a lot of things!!
Beatriz Basilio "homossexual its not a genetic error" First, it's not an error, second just because it lacks a genetic component doesn't alternatively make it a choice.
Did you ever think that it could also a social by product?
sailornaruto39 they say it is a genetic error... do a research. well, not an error, but its influenced by the genes, it is programed before you're even born. and its influenced by the interaction with the environment too. it doesn't lack any genetic component at all........
Beatriz Basilio Then why did you call it an error?
I've looked into the research and I'm not completely convinced, most of them are just theories that try REALLY hard to explain any implications that might make them false.
But I don't really care though, be it genetic, social or even a choice, it bears no moral weight.
sailornaruto39 i called it an error because that's how it was explained to me. i don't care either.. i'm not apologist of any theory, and i don't find homossexuality a problem. i'm just trying to understand where it comes from, just like you
What are you talking about? She used physcology and science in this video
Awesome talk :)
Be yourself!
Y Quirn determina los comportamientos femeninos o masculinos? ERROR.
Si el hombre expresa su enojo o tristeza llorando. Es femenino? O si le encantan las flores ,es femenino? ERROR.
He visto mujeres reaccionando violenta mente ante la frustración y a hombres llorar ante la misma frustracion. La historia está llena de ejemplo de mujeres que ante la adversidad han tenido caracter y emociones de hierro.
Y a hombres derrumbarse ante el mismo suceso.
LA TERNURA?
a caso no han visto hombres que en un matrimonio son mas tiernos con sus hijos que la madre?
QUIEN DETERMINÓ LAS CARACTERÍSTICAS o comportamientos masculinos o femeninos,? A caso no han visto a hombres tranquilizar a sus mujeres ante algun suceso inesperado durante el trafico en las horas pico en una ciudad?
Tiene a caso el cerebro de un poeta HOMBRE razgos femeninos porque tiene la capacidad de ver en una flor o en la sonrisa de un niño, cosas que un hombre o mujer común no ve?
NO ERREMOS.
No hay rasgos femeninos o masculinos.
Solo hay una morfologia que la naturaleza determina en su genética y en cuya informscion de ADN dice. Hombre o mojer. Y aunque un hombre o mujer quiera cambiar esta condición, pueden pasar 5000 años y su ADN seguirá diciendo HOMBRF O MUJER,
Would it be reasonable to do these tests on xxy’s to see if they differ from xy and xx to see whether they compeer to ever male or female in brain paten.
Thank you so much for breaking a myth a biggest myth of my mind amazed to see this factfull study
Precioso vídeo 👏👏
No wonder we have some special colorful friends around the world. Ok i got it now.😆
Women seem to handle stress better than men, it seems. 911 operators seem to be women more than men.
And that is about stress handling? Telephone operators were mostly women. How is being g a 911 operator especially stressful. You handle the call and the switch to the next one. In business world you live with the decisions night and day and livelihood of thousands can handle in balance.
Most teachers are women? Odd, when I was in school, it was roughly around 50/50.
It was like 80/20 female to male
In my school 99% of teachers were women...we had one male teacher
how was she even allowed on stage to talk about this non sense? Its like she's never heard of or talked to a neurologist ever about any of the things she's talking about.
I noticed an important thing and that is her words are not matching her evidence.... what she showed just showed that there are differences between male and female brains.... In normal occasion the dendrites was less in male brain and more in female brain... In stress the dendrites were more in male brain and less in female brain... This is what he showed...
That is called the Corpus Callapsum (spelling?). It is the region which connects the two hemispheres.
I think her study has been debunked this year. See recent papers to the topic.
Biology strongly disagrees. What how does she prove this?
Key word is disputes. She does not use a scientific method credible in mainstream science to prove anything. Or u can put your faith in scientist that can prove women and men have certain strengths. AND MASSISIVE biological differences .
She just proved the opposite of what she wanted to argue.
Thanks for proving that there are major differences. Please..... somebody help her!! That's right HER!
Legaliza 🌿 🌱🌿
Does not explain the thousands of years of men hunting and gathering...while women stayed home with the children. It is indeed innate correlated to the physical differences of our bodies as well. Times are changing now and people can always go outside of nature, but you can not negate the natural instincts of the male to protect and the woman to calm the protector down ;)
IndigoVoice82 It is nice how you fit the 50s gender roles to hunter gatherers. In reality men hunted and women gathered. There were no free riders. In general most of the history and prehistory women have taken directly part i making the living. It was only as the result of the industrial revolution when a sharp divide between work life sand free time was born that women mostly were separated from directly earning the living.
How naive :’)
But what a fool believes, he sees
No wise man has the power to reason away
What seems to be
Is always better than nothing
Than nothing at all
Factor overlap is true. The more precise the greater the variation between the sexes. The primary differences being agreeableness and responding with approval/disapproval versus disagreeableness and responding with truth/falsehood. As for the dendrites, it's nonsense. Dendritic growth = memory formation, and male and female biology evolved to adapt to, and remembers stresses differently - for obvious reasons. Pop pseudoscience.
that's confusing I fund several studies saying the oposite, female and male brain has subtancial differents for example female brain have more density and more neural development on some specific areas, lenguaje for example and most intercommunication between both side of the brain.
I don't 100% agree with this. I agree that there are masculine and feminine characteristics in the brain, that would explain why everyone has masculine and feminine traits but there are differences. You can't just erase the fact that there are differences in the brain. There are differences that do distinguish men and women, but this is not necessarily a bad thing. The differences in our brains do not determine a woman's or man's ability, that is just sexist thinking but differences do exist, which is why Gender is a thing. You have completely disregarded Transsexualism too.
That's because her underlying deposition is 100%, utterly false. Also, what does transsexualism have to do with anything? It's validity is highly contested and it's politicized even more so.
Garrett1240 ...because researching brain studies on transsexualism myself, there is neurological evidence to show that there are gender differences in the brain between men and women, when being looked at between trans and cis people's brains, structure and size for example. So the woman in this video saying that there are no differences is completely disregarding the research we have on transsexualism and what we have towards finding gender identity.
Caleb F What exactly do you mean by "transsexualism"? From what I have learned, 'transsexualism' as I understand you to mean it, is likely a mental illness emerging from hormonal imbalances in the womb. Of course I can't be confident of that, but many health organizations believe that to be the case, and there's others who do not. Is this not the case? Also define transsexualism.
Garrett1240 No, it's not a mental illness. That's an outdated "medical" definition and what bigots jump to use to defend their hate and lack of understanding.
Transsexualism is the general medical term (usually used in studies) to describe a person who is Trans and has Gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria is a condition in which a person's gender and sex do not match and leads to distress and discomfort because their body is different to that of their gender and how it *should* look.
So why is it not a mental illness? ...because it is to do with gender and the way your brain is biologically structured. Gender is internal. For example, if someone suddenly told you that you had to be the opposite gender now, you would most likely be able to present and socialise typically of that gender but your internal sense of being (male or female, depending on your gender) would remain. This is because you are born with a gender that loosely connects with your sex, so should match but is not tied as they are different things. This is the case with trans people; we are born with a gender different to our sex. The example I gave you only touches on the social aspects but imagine it was your social identity and your physical body at odds with your gender.
Furthermore, it is not a mental illness because there is simply nothing "ill" with their brain, it's that their gender is their gender and you can't change that. What *is* wrong is their body and the way it developed.
It's similar to when people used to say (well some still say) that homosexuality is a mental disorder/illness and has to be cured but the fact is, is that there is nothing *to* cure, it's their sexuality and you can't change that.
It's well known that the medical field is growing since the past and now recognises Gender dysphoria as a medical condition and not a mental illness.
Caleb F Nothing you said about gender dysphoria or transsexualism is 100% agreed upon among scientists. The DSM and others are all heavily politicized. You also didn't use any science to back your claims.
so where dose that put a person born with XXY
The New Lysenkoism is here....
Pretty poor argumentation , no cliche left untouched
obviously a prejudiced view build up to a reasoning
Ive watched this four times because a guy sent it to me and i keep trying to explain that the entire video is not only contradictory but poorly conducted.
I get her points but the more she speaks she disproves them.
Excelente!
Lol
really???
no
wanderful
They say Women are from venus and Men from Mars but maybe this can alternate also and maybe at the root cause and the truth is that maybe they are backwards ..example: Women make Men fight for them and almost always have men do everything for them whereas males fight and supposedly we are not supposed to fall in love or nice for we become weak? ..how so idk but anyway Conclusion: this is why we are billions because we are engineered backwards? And our species is more negative than positive (not sure if G-d or the universe intended it this way) but nice people suffer while defensive people succeed ..I think and gather that women their strength is higher then men mentally not enotionally but both and can alternate , males we can alternate also but the opposite happens we become unsuccessful ? ..its a Womens World ! Not a mans. It only appears that it's a mans brain because women let it happen not because either or is superior...I think religion unbalances brains also to the liking of the society and what's interesting in the wild or animals work the opposite !!! Mahbe humans are lowered than animals not higher too ????????
Emotionally it depends some men are emotionally weak and some women are emotionally weak too and some are strong who know how to tackle depression, stress and idk why crying makes anyone weak i never understood that. men and women cry when something bad
happen with them thats really natural and normal
I hope you not as confused these days .
she always looks so strict... i feel like she wants to beat me up all the time
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What facts does she support other than her gender study opinion
I agree with pretty much everything there, except for one thing. If there are statistical differences between the sexes, then to say both sexes have equivalent brains on a statistical scale is manifestly false. The idea that any individual has one or other type of brain because they are male or female is absurd, and is a straw man representation of the position that biology influences the social hierarchy.
Majority of those statistics are false and are written by white male.
@@Tectonictaless doesn't matter who wrote them or whether or not they're true, my point stands. I have to assume English isn't your first language and you missed the important nuance due to the word "if".
More SJW bullshit
More data-immune anti-SJWs who refuse to abandon their bigotry in the face of contemporary scientific research...
There are male and female brains. They both are different.
Looking at the right hand side of this TEDx should be renamed TEDfem
Bad science at best
People just keep getting dumber & dumberer as we "evolve"
her profound wishfullness and her highly opinionated and ideologic believe-system do not correspond very well to scientific facts.
bio 307
xD
She got the results that she wanted. Maybe there is agenda behind? Really nice "science"
Women have brains?
bless you lol
+Gad Saad have you seen this.
Daftna Joel is more like it.
You are an ideologue, not a scientist or serious academic. Stop talking as if you know.
another basket-case feminist who denies science, and no one dares back her up against the wall for fear of being a patriarchy sympathizer.
She's a neuroscientist. And you are??? What? A slob of a couch potato who can't keep your own body healthy for your own sake. Yeah. No. You have zero sense of accountability and sense of personal responsibility.
SO YEAH SURE YOU'RE MORE REASONABLE. OBV
/s
Another intellectually lazy anti-SJW who refuses to listen to the findings of researchers that conflict with their narrow-minded worldview.
Pseudoscience
Learn to do science before claiming that a published work (in one of the highly reputed journals) is pseudoscience. You are free to disagree with the conclusion and show us your experimental data.
Science denialism!
So her position is basically.. don't do science because it's mean. Well done. (tyler t)
She's not educated in neuroscience rather in Psychology, most of the claims in this video are false or outright lies.
Jordan Peterson destroyed her in a debate, she couldn't find words to response ..!!!
Do you have any video or something to back this up?
Think that she would make a better housewife, than supposedly a scientist !
Go home, make a pie for hubby !!
Anti-science feminist alert!
propaganda
개소리 ㅋㅋ
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I don't 100% agree with this. I agree that there are masculine and feminine characteristics in the brain, that would explain why everyone has masculine and feminine traits but there are differences. You can't just erase the fact that there are differences in the brain. There are differences that do distinguish men and women, but this is not necessarily a bad thing. The differences in our brains do not determine a woman's or man's ability, that is just sexist thinking but differences do exist, which is why Gender is a thing. You have completely disregarded Transsexualism too.
how was she even allowed on stage to talk about this non sense? Its like she's never heard of or talked to a neurologist ever about any of the things she's talking about.