On it. Please let me know if you'd be interested in what's currently pre-order due to the speed at which I'm moving this along. I've almost got some builders lined up to make these weapons, just hammering out the details and agreements, dotting the Is and crossing the Ts, so it won't be long now in any case. My goal is to get things up and running smoothly before Feb. 2019, so I can compete with this new-fangled semi-auto "assault weapon" ban that's coming, and give people great and legit ways through it so people aren't mostly defenseless in 2019, plus I'd make a little money for myself in the process. As the government buys up everyone's modern semi-autos, people will be able to turn around and use that money for some legit options that'd do about as well but without all the red tape. Spread the word, too. This is happening, even if that ban doesn't happen. This still looks like a great pistol and a decent opportunity.
Please Email your full name, city, State and country of residence and citizenship to kys1@rocketmail.com or message me on Twitter @75_kal. Disclaimer: I only sell to US citizens and residents. You are responsible for knowing your local and State regulations. I am in full compliance with Iowa, Federal regulations and local ordinances.
@@beelz5932 I'm not a business, so no. I build and sell on a private basis only, at least for now. In the future, if I get the resources to take on the overhead and liability of business, that might change. For now, this is more of a private hobby and activism sort of thing than anything else.
I really feel terrible for many of the gun designers whose work you showcase. They created these beautiful and functional firearms with much of their time and money, yet fade away in the pages of history...
@@jackandersen1262 oh sorry my bad, so doesnt this technically make the Schwarzlose more reliable than a Maxim? I mean the Maxim has a lot more moving parts
Considering its age, this little pistol is way ahead of its time. It's an absolute mystery as to why it did not sell. Even if it was pricey, one would have thought there were a sufficient number of wealthy people to buy such an advanced, reliable handgun. With a reinforced backstop, I would be quite happy to shoot it. As you say, Ian, I wish a replica was manufactured.
On it. Please let me know if you'd be interested in what's currently pre-order due to the speed at which I'm moving this along. I've almost got some builders lined up to make these weapons, just hammering out the details and agreements, dotting the Is and crossing the Ts, so it won't be long now in any case. My goal is to get things up and running smoothly before Feb. 2019, so I can compete with this new-fangled semi-auto "assault weapon" ban that's coming, and give people great and legit ways through it so people aren't mostly defenseless in 2019, plus I'd make a little money for myself in the process. As the government buys up everyone's modern semi-autos, people will be able to turn around and use that money for some legit options that'd do about as well but without all the red tape. Spread the word, too. This is happening, even if that ban doesn't happen. This still looks like a great pistol and a decent opportunity.
@@jamesletendre6456 Looks like I'm going to be doing this on my own, so I did redesign the replica to be something I could build with my skill level and available tools at this time. No longer to be chambered For Bordchardt, after much research and tweaking of my design for an antique replica, of this pistol, for legal and practical reasons, some changes were made: -The chamber would be for .41RF (.41 Short), in a smooth bore barrel made of brass to increase velocity* and to prevent it from safely firing modern ammo. -Black powder only, but I suppose .410 hulls (no shell), 15 grains FFFG black powder, 209 percussion caps and lead slugs would do in a pinch. Without the shell, it technically wouldn't be modern ammo. Chamber's not long enough to hold even the shortest .410 shell -magazine capacity 6 rounds internal or 5 round removable -4" barrel length for the 6 round "compact" and 6" barrel length for the "full size" variant. This would ensure an ideal balance between pistol size and the round's velocity. -Also, the action is a bit different than the original. DAO, but still would retain a very similar look and feel to the original weapon from the outside just picking up and looking at it. Even the firing pin would function about the same. No rotating bolt or movable barrel, though. Straight recoil and fixed barrel, for simplicity, keeping cost and potential risk for issues low, for the relatively low energy of the round (think the original .36 cal. brass framed 1851 Navy and it'd be a good approx.), and to make it even further prohibitive to try modifying this weapon to use modern ammo. A rotating bolt would likely result in failures to eject or to fully recoil the slide/bolt unit, anyway. -I've also been able to set a specific price to build this replica antique firearm on demand, and have decided private sale, up to 2 transactions yearly, would be the most I can handle at this time. -$750 per unbranded, privately crafted replica of Schwarzlose 1898 antique firearm/pistol, built and shipped. -$5.50 + shipping cost per package of 5 spent/unprimed and clean brass hulls/cases, and 5 .41" di. lead slugs/bullets, about 96 grains each. Contact me kys1@rocketmail.com for questions, payment instructions, process or other information. I do not make ammunition, sell or ship primers, caps, powders or other explosive/hazardous materials. *EST up to 672 FPS or 96 ft-lbs with suggested load, 6" barrel and black powder substitute.
@Heatalatur Think what you want. In my opinion people shouldn't just level baseless accusations out of the blue like you just did. If you must know, 1 reason I don't do videos is because the last time I made a detailed, specific public post about any of my work about as neat as this, somebody bigger and richer than I am copied it and screwed me out of 1 of my best inventions. I try not to make the same mistakes twice. Your reply seems ironic, because I don't want to get ripped off! However, if you shoot me an Email, and if you sign an NDA and non-compete agreement, I might share.
@Heatalatur No. To me, you look like somebody randomly slandering/defaming others. I don't know why some people troll ambitious people over the internet. Could it be that you're jealous? Maybe you should channel that energy into something more positive, for yourself. Just my 2 cents or so. Good luck and good bye.
Ian: your pronunciation of Schwarzlose is actually excellent. It can still be perfected, but I don't want to be pedantic either... =) I just want to say that your constant efforts to get the pronunciation of foreign names right are exactly one of the things I appreciate most about your videos. Keep up the good work!
Really impressive for being nearly 120 years old. Also, the potential weakness with the slide retainer could be easily fixed by making it have a reinforcing web on the thin area below the drilled circle that runs in line with the barrel. That would make the part longer at the base where it interacts with the receiver. That little bit of extra length would then allow that assembly to be placed into the receiver via vertical dovetailing, and finally, a pin that only has to keep the part in the receiver, but is under no other stress. Very little machine time added to remove any chance of that part failing.
I once owned a High Standard Duramatic .22LR Semi-auto that looked a lot like this pistol, the same time I also owned a Ruger Standard model .22, I much prefered the High Standard, it shot better, was more accurate and, just a better made pistol even with the large screw under the frame that held the barrel on the Duramatic. I miss that pistol almost as much as I miss my Luger and Model 25-5 Smith in .45 Long Colt, and Llama .380 mini M1911.
Im honestly amazed at how modern this gun seems! Seriously, wow! If I didnt know the date and someone asked, id take a guess at maybe the interwar years or WWII era!... But 1898?!? The 19th century!! Holy crap, im amazed. The Germans truly were at the forefront of designs. The simple action with modern thumb controls, single spring and rotating bolt (like an AR?)... I cant see how this failed either unless it was purely and singularly cost based like you said, Because it cant be because of the design! Also Ian, youre an awesome presenter. I dont think you get enough thanks. Ive learned so much from your channel/videos, theyre a great resource! You remind me of a teacher I had in school whom everyone liked because he explained things in a way that was clear, fun and everyone understood. You are informative without being condescending. I like that. Its refreshing. Really well made video guys. BTW this probably is a bit random, but please continue to upload your videos to RUclips! I understand the need for a video site like full30 that is just for the shooting sports, but most of your audience is on youtube. Id rather watch vids here. (Just consider it please, because ive seen a lot of links leading back to full30 lately!)
"Marky Mark" Markus Gaming germany was very early into everything,so much so it makes ppl believe in aliens :) UFO "experts" use the tech explosion in 1950's USA as proof of alien contact, totally ignoring the tech grab of ww2 by russia and usa from germany,that fueled the space race and cold war between usa and russia/ussr.
This pistol is better-designed than some things you'll find on the market today. It really is a shame it didn't take off- I guess it was too far ahead of its time. Imagine a reproduction with modern materials and a more solid design on that blocking ring.
Came from the colab with Johnathan Ferguson the Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries museum in the UK which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history to see it fire.
Long time fan of FW's RUclips Channel but just seen this video. Well worth the watch. Criminally underrated is what I describe this pistol as, has to be cost
Dude your videos are to educational and formal for the average youtube audience, you should be on the history channel or discovery lol Great video by the way!
***** Thanks, but the History Channel doesn't actually do history anymore. There is much better history on RUclips, compared to Ancient Aliens, Hunting Bigfoot, and whatever else they have on cable anymore. Television is a dying medium.
Forgotten Weapons they still have a reasonable amount of of actual history on History, but most of the good stuff is on the more expensive H2... I'll put my vote in for PBS, because at least they still have plenty of documentaries.
In the recent Polenar Tactical video Ian mentioned this gun and I was curious to know more but had no idea on how to write it, thankfully the algorithm provides.
Pretty neat design from a hundred and 15 years ago. I feel better now I got my forgotten weapons fix. Its been a few days.haha. I am subscribed to a lot of firearms channels and forgotten weapons is my favorite.
I think the design could actually handle 9 mm fairly easily; the internal ballistics of 7.63 Mauser and 9 Parabellum aren't all that different (as long as you don't insist on feeding it 9 mm +P+); the main problem would be that obvious weak point at the back of the frame.
@@nindger4270 Too much of the 9MM ammo out there is NATO or +P to depend on people "knowing better." .380 or .38 Super would be the best option -- available but not in really hot loads. Really a .32 would work, given that its already a 7.63 design. (or even just keep 7.63 -- the ammo IS out there)
Please don't spoil the concept by raising the bore to 9mm, she is fantastic in 7.63, what a wonderful cartridge, I have had both a broom handle, and a Tokarev not the cheap crap from recent China manufacturer, but a bring home from a GI, who captured it in Vietnam. After the GI found that I had ammo for it, he begged for it back, so I sold it back for what I had given, and sold him the 300 round of surplus mauser ammo I had picked up in Shotgun News. He had been trying to feed it on 30 Luger and having some funny shaped cases after firing them. Ah well, he is gone now, as many of my friends. Wonder what happened to his pistol, he also had a capture SKS still in the paper that he dug out of a pile of rice in a village in Nam, it never made it into combat, and he would not part with it. Nice SKS as well with the blade bayonet and Russian markings, like the pistol.
Ways I think this could be turned into a modern pistol 1: add a modern slide system 2: shorten action so it fits within the slide 3: swap safety and bolt release lever positions 4: solid milled aluminum or steel frame 5: double stack feed system 6: .22 LR, 9x19mm, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP chamberings
the most natural caliber for this pistol would be Tok, if you shortened the action, you could perhaps lengthen the barrel too, that would also be a plus.
skeleton Yeah, but if you're buying his revised version you're probably getting it because it's unique and reliable, not because it's a perfect replica of a really cool 19th. century pistol.
The machine work looks very smooth indeed. Very high quality build. I wish a lot of these older designs were reproduced. In fact, if I had the capital to play with, I would try create such a company, specializing in reproductions of older designs.
Jesse Sisolack So, like Pietta/Uberti? Because that's what they do. And if you can get your cost/safety ratio right, it can be a pretty profitable venture.
I had surgeries on my right shoulder and knee today and now I need to spend some downtime recovering. The Schwarzlose 1898 is a very interesting design. Thanks for posting this video. It was a wonderful distraction. Mike
Also, don't forget that the early Beretta M9's had problems with the slides breaking and hitting the shooter in the face. One thing I don't really like about this pistol is the short sight radius. Other than that, it's quite nice and brutally simple.
Shane K Not so. If you simply search "beretta m9 slide failure" you'll find plenty of evidence to the contrary including government-produced reports on the failures. The problem doesn't exist anymore now that some manufacturing problems have been eliminated.
Cameron Jenkins I was in the Army when the Army switched to M9s. I can support the fact that the m9s did have that problem. the simple solution was to put a half moon piece of steel (stopper) in the frame. Problem fixed. I wish the Army (Military) had chosen the Para Ordinance 15 (.45) f15 shot .45 variant. but they did not and the M9 is now it.
Its like a bolt action semi auto dope gun just found out about it today on a short video and this is like the only video i found shooting it and its always forgotten weapons youtube channel dope stuff man
The multi-function spring reminds me of the Maxim-Silverman pistol from two years earlier, as does the rear-sight mounted fairly centrally. Could there be any connection? (The Maxim-Silverman video was the one I saw just before this one.)
The thing about that "flaw" with the back piece being a potential failure point for the gun is that it looks like it would be fairly easy to remedy by just beefing up that little rear loop and/ or the cross pin that holds it in. It would only add as much extra length and weight to the gun as it was deemed necessary to be strong enough. There's probably other ways to accomplish the same reinforcement by adding lugs to the frame that could help in catching the bolt, as well, but just beefing up the rear _seems_ to my uneducated eye as being the most straightforward way to do it without adding any additional complexity to the design or manufacturing process.
Looks like an amazing little handgun, very innovative. Thanks to Steve and Ian for coming together to show this to us ^^ I can see why you'd want one, though I would personally want to do a little research into preventing that slide problem :P
This pistol is so flipping cool and it’s just so insane how modern this pistol is. 1898! That’s just ridiculous that it was made then. What a cool pistol
the slide hold open part that Ian removed with the ejector- actually appears not to allow the bolt to travel far and bang/shear the rear 'loop'. If the World of guns is accurate in their coding.
Excellent video, I love seeing this very clever designs from generations ago. That pinned ring at the back makes me wonder...if most of them ended up in Russia, did they hang around long enough in second-line service for somebody to eventually try loading one with 7.62 Tokarev? That seems very likely to cause the bolt to launch off the back of the pistol into the shooter's face. In fact, if somebody were to make a reproduction, it might be nice to engineer it for 7.62 Tokarev for safety and cross-compatibility.
It's a beauty alright! Very clever design and elegant look. I would gladly have one but they are probably more expensive than a new house. This pistol is way better than a lot of nowadays guns. 6.4-inch barrel length with 7.63 Mauser round makes you dangerous at 100 yards if you know how to shot it properly. Anyway, it is a precious pistol!
re: unlocking/locking. the "doll's head" at the rear not only locates the firing pin and provides the "rails" for the bolt internally, it also acts as the cam for locking/unlocking (in the "neck" of the doll's head). that's why the groove is cut as a cam, and not just a relief shoulder (which would be a far easier, cheaper machining op). i agree Ian, this puppy remade with modern steel would be a REALLY nice firearm. in 630 or 8620/4140 (or even straight 4140), it would have some serious "bank vault like" brawn. it looks like a simple-ish mod to the build would make the doll's head mount a non-issue (thicker rear tang with a dovetail and pin, or even just a mortise and tenon joint as opposed to the rabbet used originally). hell, it actually looks pretty adaptable to "stampings and trunnions" type build-up, or even a polymer "frame" and "gut rail" system of assembly. a bright boy or gal could probably get a cnc setup to crank these out of bar stock pretty damned rapidly, and really cheaply (the cuts all appear VERY simple, especially using "robot craftsmen", and the small parts look fairly adaptable to stamp and dress to fit assembly). honestly, this could be the next "ruger mark 1 .22" utility class plinker, especially with the cost similarity with 9mm cheapo and .22 LR these days
I'd say it's about time they bring this design back, though probably with less enormous safety and bolt hold up lever and more bolts to prevent catastrophic slide launching failures. It is a very aesthetically pleasing gun, apart from the odd looking slide grips at the back just jutting out. And to whoever let you borrow the gun and fire it - Thank you.
I was researching pistols for a dieselpunk 1930s story,, and I think I'm in love... The others I've looked at include a Charola y Anitua in 7mm, and a Webley Fosberry (sp?) in 455, but this is an actual service pistol. And a very nice one at that!
Damn, I fell asleep when you were shooting that little blow forward jewel, only to awaken to my favorite pistol of ALL TIME, GOD HOW I WANT ONE OF THOSE!!!
The design is ingenious, but one can imagine each step of machining at the turn if the century...yeech! It's pretty amazing that such designs were the order of the day, and also pretty easy to see why governments were the primary buyers. Buying one of these would have been the same as buying a motorcycle or a solid used car.
I would love to own one. If a company begins to manufacture them in the future I will definetly buy one as soon as it becomes available. What an awesome design and beautiful execution.
Intriguing.... First off, may I say how refreshing it is to find someone on youtube who shares a passion for weapons without the obligatory bravado around it? my compliments for the well reasoned and calm demeanor you have on camera, it really is refreshing. Also thank you for having an interest in old weapons and a willingness to seek them out and be able to show us how they worked. It really is educational. Secondly, it's an intriguing little gun, I do have a few questions though, what does it do soundwise? is the bang very loud for instance? the microphone on cameras doesn't necessarily convey this well. From first glances I'd say this was a gun favoured by assassins and spies, even though I'm not too sure about that. It's mainly due to the size, though I have no idea as to how tall you are. The gun also looks quite delicate.
Sean, as always a great review. You are a unique blend of college professor, engineer and arms expert with the soothing voice of Mr. Rogers. Enjoy your postings immensely.
this thing is insanely ahead of its time, it has everything expected of modern pistols, its like the designer literally saw the future, also i love pistols where only the rear part reciprocates i just think that looks cool
I like this gun, wouldn't mind it if the few minor problems were ironed out but it seems very capable and could be a respectable gun among more modern pistols
This very interesting pistol has a lot of small and intricate machining in it. Quite impressive for the age of the design, also it's probably why it was not produced in large numbers. Machining and tolerances like that are very time consuming to do and thus expensive. Also that one pin in the rear that keeps the slide from comming of and hitting the shooter was most likely realized way back when and did not inspire confidence in those who would want to purchase one. Some minor design changes for durability and this would be an equivalent of modern pistols. Very cool!!
My friend has a 22.lr luger that was built in like 1910 or something it can actually cycle all 10 rounds it looks a lot like this. Crazy how semi auto pistols used to look like a tube with a pistol grip.
i would have to say the real beauty of this pistol lies in it'e remarkable simplicity and innovative design. i mean 1 spring that does 4 functions. i would say that qualifies as ingenious mechanical design.
There really isn't all that far to go. There are only so many ways to shoot a bullet out of a barrel and reload another cartridge. The Bond Bullpup (formerly the Boberg) revived the Mars pistol reverse extraction mechanism to try to give more barrel length in a compact pistol, but it's yet to be accepted due to cartridge separation.
Thanks for showing us the Schwazlose 1898. I love the simplicity of the design. Watching the action in slow motion, I can't see how that bolt would ever break away and slide off the back. The pin and the guide both seam to be too thick to shear. The guide would probably bend 1st, causing the slide to get stuck, and disabling the pistol to fire. Hence the pin is designed into the mechanism to replace that part. (my guess) Is there any recorded reports of that shear-off ever happening? I'm doubting it.
Fantastic video as usual. You mentioned that you would love to have one of these in your own collection which got me wondering; how extensive is your own personal collection of rare firearms?
Ydna San I would describe my own collection as WMD-level to the mainstream media, huge to the average gun owner, not too bad to the serious gun collector, and undersized and heavy on inexpensive guns compared to the collections which many of my video'd guns are borrowed from.
Very advanced features for its time...would be suitable 50m target pistol. I can see in today's manufacturing environment that this would be a easy do & a good seller.. I would say that the model 1900 browning auto which sold over a million units prior to being discontinued in 1912, may have influenced sales...but this 1898 pistol has locking bolt which is not normally seen at this time.. The disconnector is simple too..(prevents full auto).. Brilliant, thanks..
Noticed on the slo-mo that the rear sight seems loose or not secure enough for the recoil. You can see the back of the sight move up and down on recoil, IE: bouncing.
I would buy one of these! Such a truly leading edge design. It would be nice to have a virtual trial of this vs the two or three contemporary pistols of the time and show each gun as the desinger would then play the role of the inspector and find the reasons why one is better than the other.
munkSWE88 Yup, same guy. He also had an 1891 semiauto pistol (didn't work so well) and the primary heavy machine gun used by the Austro-Hungarian military. ruclips.net/video/9_pWNjuZj30/видео.html
The Beretta 92F had also an issue with the slide shooting back out of the rail stops. That's why the 92F has a "S" type upgrade. Sooo, also modern guns are not perfect.
this is really cool! it looks like a old Mauser and Desert Eagle were put in a blender and sent through a time machine. also, it's a very "steampunk" design. once again, very good video!
i love how casually he mentions that its serial number one
Ian is a casual kind of guy. You won't see him get to animated or giddy over things. Just another day on the job so to speak.
I think you might want to watch a few more of his videos there.
@@williamcattr267 except over a full auto makarov
Should have seen him fire an M14 in full auto:
"Wow!". 😁
He could get a spitfire for that
Seriously. a Modern reproduction of this criminally underrated semi auto would be amazing
On it. Please let me know if you'd be interested in what's currently pre-order due to the speed at which I'm moving this along. I've almost got some builders lined up to make these weapons, just hammering out the details and agreements, dotting the Is and crossing the Ts, so it won't be long now in any case. My goal is to get things up and running smoothly before Feb. 2019, so I can compete with this new-fangled semi-auto "assault weapon" ban that's coming, and give people great and legit ways through it so people aren't mostly defenseless in 2019, plus I'd make a little money for myself in the process. As the government buys up everyone's modern semi-autos, people will be able to turn around and use that money for some legit options that'd do about as well but without all the red tape. Spread the word, too. This is happening, even if that ban doesn't happen. This still looks like a great pistol and a decent opportunity.
I'm interested.
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@@kennynoble1223 Do you have an estimated MSRP?
@@beelz5932 I'm not a business, so no. I build and sell on a private basis only, at least for now. In the future, if I get the resources to take on the overhead and liability of business, that might change. For now, this is more of a private hobby and activism sort of thing than anything else.
I really feel terrible for many of the gun designers whose work you showcase. They created these beautiful and functional firearms with much of their time and money, yet fade away in the pages of history...
Remember Schwarzlose's MG was successful. So it's not all bad for him.
@@physixger yes
@@physixger yep, but its basically just a Maxim chambered for 8x50R Mannlicher if I am not mistaken
roteroktober420 the Schwarzlose MG is a delayed blowback machine gun. Not anyway related to the Maxim gun.
@@jackandersen1262 oh sorry my bad, so doesnt this technically make the Schwarzlose more reliable than a Maxim? I mean the Maxim has a lot more moving parts
Considering its age, this little pistol is way ahead of its time. It's an absolute mystery as to why it did not sell. Even if it was pricey, one would have thought there were a sufficient number of wealthy people to buy such an advanced, reliable handgun. With a reinforced backstop, I would be quite happy to shoot it. As you say, Ian, I wish a replica was manufactured.
On it. Please let me know if you'd be interested in what's currently pre-order due to the speed at which I'm moving this along. I've almost got some builders lined up to make these weapons, just hammering out the details and agreements, dotting the Is and crossing the Ts, so it won't be long now in any case. My goal is to get things up and running smoothly before Feb. 2019, so I can compete with this new-fangled semi-auto "assault weapon" ban that's coming, and give people great and legit ways through it so people aren't mostly defenseless in 2019, plus I'd make a little money for myself in the process. As the government buys up everyone's modern semi-autos, people will be able to turn around and use that money for some legit options that'd do about as well but without all the red tape. Spread the word, too. This is happening, even if that ban doesn't happen. This still looks like a great pistol and a decent opportunity.
@@kennynoble1223 Updates?
@@jamesletendre6456 Looks like I'm going to be doing this on my own, so I did redesign the replica to be something I could build with my skill level and available tools at this time.
No longer to be chambered For Bordchardt, after much research and tweaking of my design for an antique replica, of this pistol, for legal and practical reasons, some changes were made:
-The chamber would be for .41RF (.41 Short), in a smooth bore barrel made of brass to increase velocity* and to prevent it from safely firing modern ammo.
-Black powder only, but I suppose .410 hulls (no shell), 15 grains FFFG black powder, 209 percussion caps and lead slugs would do in a pinch. Without the shell, it technically wouldn't be modern ammo. Chamber's not long enough to hold even the shortest .410 shell
-magazine capacity 6 rounds internal or 5 round removable
-4" barrel length for the 6 round "compact" and 6" barrel length for the "full size" variant. This would ensure an ideal balance between pistol size and the round's velocity.
-Also, the action is a bit different than the original. DAO, but still would retain a very similar look and feel to the original weapon from the outside just picking up and looking at it. Even the firing pin would function about the same. No rotating bolt or movable barrel, though. Straight recoil and fixed barrel, for simplicity, keeping cost and potential risk for issues low, for the relatively low energy of the round (think the original .36 cal. brass framed 1851 Navy and it'd be a good approx.), and to make it even further prohibitive to try modifying this weapon to use modern ammo. A rotating bolt would likely result in failures to eject or to fully recoil the slide/bolt unit, anyway.
-I've also been able to set a specific price to build this replica antique firearm on demand, and have decided private sale, up to 2 transactions yearly, would be the most I can handle at this time.
-$750 per unbranded, privately crafted replica of Schwarzlose 1898 antique firearm/pistol, built and shipped.
-$5.50 + shipping cost per package of 5 spent/unprimed and clean brass hulls/cases, and 5 .41" di. lead slugs/bullets, about 96 grains each.
Contact me
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I do not make ammunition, sell or ship primers, caps, powders or other explosive/hazardous materials.
*EST up to 672 FPS or 96 ft-lbs
with suggested load, 6" barrel
and black powder substitute.
@Heatalatur Think what you want. In my opinion people shouldn't just level baseless accusations out of the blue like you just did. If you must know, 1 reason I don't do videos is because the last time I made a detailed, specific public post about any of my work about as neat as this, somebody bigger and richer than I am copied it and screwed me out of 1 of my best inventions. I try not to make the same mistakes twice. Your reply seems ironic, because I don't want to get ripped off! However, if you shoot me an Email, and if you sign an NDA and non-compete agreement, I might share.
@Heatalatur No. To me, you look like somebody randomly slandering/defaming others. I don't know why some people troll ambitious people over the internet. Could it be that you're jealous? Maybe you should channel that energy into something more positive, for yourself. Just my 2 cents or so. Good luck and good bye.
The slow-mo is like watching clockwork machinery.
Simply beautiful.
Looks like Ian just found his new carry gun. :^)
nice meme face
REMOVE MUGABE :^))))))
+REMOVE MUGABE Emoticon*
that meme face when you love a gun that might shoot the bolt back into your face.
Not available for less than 2,000 is my guess.
Ian: your pronunciation of Schwarzlose is actually excellent. It can still be perfected, but I don't want to be pedantic either... =) I just want to say that your constant efforts to get the pronunciation of foreign names right are exactly one of the things I appreciate most about your videos. Keep up the good work!
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BeyondTagusLynx Just remember to pronounce "W" as though it were a "V" and you nailed it.
Yes, if Ian will pronounce the second 's' like English 'z' sound, and 'e' like in word 'end', it will be perfect!
You are actually all wrong. It’s pronounced “Shh-warzt-los”
Really impressive for being nearly 120 years old. Also, the potential weakness with the slide retainer could be easily fixed by making it have a reinforcing web on the thin area below the drilled circle that runs in line with the barrel. That would make the part longer at the base where it interacts with the receiver. That little bit of extra length would then allow that assembly to be placed into the receiver via vertical dovetailing, and finally, a pin that only has to keep the part in the receiver, but is under no other stress. Very little machine time added to remove any chance of that part failing.
Impressive gun, never even heard of it which is a disgrace, should be widely praised. Thank you so much. And thanks Steve.
I saw it in a roblox game
I once owned a High Standard Duramatic .22LR Semi-auto that looked a lot like this pistol, the same time I also owned a Ruger Standard model .22, I much prefered the High Standard, it shot better, was more accurate and, just a better made pistol even with the large screw under the frame that held the barrel on the Duramatic. I miss that pistol almost as much as I miss my Luger and Model 25-5 Smith in .45 Long Colt, and Llama .380 mini M1911.
Im honestly amazed at how modern this gun seems! Seriously, wow!
If I didnt know the date and someone asked, id take a guess at maybe the interwar years or WWII era!...
But 1898?!? The 19th century!! Holy crap, im amazed. The Germans truly were at the forefront of designs. The simple action with modern thumb controls, single spring and rotating bolt (like an AR?)... I cant see how this failed either unless it was purely and singularly cost based like you said, Because it cant be because of the design!
Also Ian, youre an awesome presenter. I dont think you get enough thanks. Ive learned so much from your channel/videos, theyre a great resource! You remind me of a teacher I had in school whom everyone liked because he explained things in a way that was clear, fun and everyone understood. You are informative without being condescending. I like that. Its refreshing.
Really well made video guys. BTW this probably is a bit random, but please continue to upload your videos to RUclips! I understand the need for a video site like full30 that is just for the shooting sports, but most of your audience is on youtube. Id rather watch vids here. (Just consider it please, because ive seen a lot of links leading back to full30 lately!)
I'm amazed also. I didn't think modern machining required to make such a weapon even existed at that point.
Seems like Germany was very early in making semi-auto pistols.
"Marky Mark" Markus Gaming something somethin germany something engineering something something
"Marky Mark" Markus Gaming Yes, and also manual repeating pistols. Germans and Austrians were definitely on the bleeding edge at the time.
Forgotten Weapons Could the Mars be considered one of the first automatic pistols? I mean, it's from 1897.
leonardo tavares dardenne Early, but not quite one of the first.
"Marky Mark" Markus Gaming germany was very early into everything,so much so it makes ppl believe in aliens :) UFO "experts" use the tech explosion in 1950's USA as proof of alien contact, totally ignoring the tech grab of ww2 by russia and usa from germany,that fueled the space race and cold war between usa and russia/ussr.
Best gun and history channel on youtube. Good job. =)
I love how casually he just mentions that this is serial no 1
This pistol is better-designed than some things you'll find on the market today. It really is a shame it didn't take off- I guess it was too far ahead of its time.
Imagine a reproduction with modern materials and a more solid design on that blocking ring.
and just imagine what it would look like with a red dot or a laser.
I'd love to get one!
no kidding on the modern design. schwarzlose was onto something. some great engineering there.
Came from the colab with Johnathan Ferguson the Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries museum in the UK which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history to see it fire.
That slow motion was a thing of awe and beauty.
3:53 touch here if you want to see the shooting.
6:18 also shoot here
7:20 magazine and how to reload the gun
Despite being almost 120 years old when this was recorded, the reliability is quite incredible
Long time fan of FW's RUclips Channel but just seen this video. Well worth the watch. Criminally underrated is what I describe this pistol as, has to be cost
Dude your videos are to educational and formal for the average youtube audience, you should be on the history channel or discovery lol Great video by the way!
***** Thanks, but the History Channel doesn't actually do history anymore. There is much better history on RUclips, compared to Ancient Aliens, Hunting Bigfoot, and whatever else they have on cable anymore. Television is a dying medium.
Forgotten Weapons agreed.
That wasnt dig at you by the way!
Forgotten Weapons they still have a reasonable amount of of actual history on History, but most of the good stuff is on the more expensive H2... I'll put my vote in for PBS, because at least they still have plenty of documentaries.
nah a pro show would stop him from rambling and going off on tangents,,,which is the best part
In the recent Polenar Tactical video Ian mentioned this gun and I was curious to know more but had no idea on how to write it, thankfully the algorithm provides.
Forgotten Weapons and Hickock45 - two best gun reviewers/channels on RUclips. Imagine if they got together for a video....
No crossover episode
I came here after the Polenar Tactical podcast video. Love it
that's so cool.
Looking at the lugs lock-in while leaving the striker pin behind, ready to fire, was very satisfying.
wow this design is impressive! extremely well thought-out.
As all the other commenters here and on Your other vids... Top notch quality. Interesting and fun to watch. Respekt. Thanks.
I'm just astonished (and grateful !) that the owner would let you fire and disassemble this early (!!) pistol. Many thanks...
Pretty neat design from a hundred and 15 years ago. I feel better now I got my forgotten weapons fix. Its been a few days.haha. I am subscribed to a lot of firearms channels and forgotten weapons is my favorite.
Thank you Ian for making the video and thank you Steve for letting Ian make the video.
It looks pretty balanced and fun to shoot.
I can see such an advanced pistol being reproduced, and in 7.63 Mauser or, as an alternative, 9mm for marketing purposes.
9mm might be too much for this design. Maybe with modifications. I would love to see a reproduction also.
I think the design could actually handle 9 mm fairly easily; the internal ballistics of 7.63 Mauser and 9 Parabellum aren't all that different (as long as you don't insist on feeding it 9 mm +P+); the main problem would be that obvious weak point at the back of the frame.
@@nindger4270 Too much of the 9MM ammo out there is NATO or +P to depend on people "knowing better." .380 or .38 Super would be the best option -- available but not in really hot loads. Really a .32 would work, given that its already a 7.63 design. (or even just keep 7.63 -- the ammo IS out there)
Please don't spoil the concept by raising the bore to 9mm, she is fantastic in 7.63, what a wonderful cartridge, I have had both a broom handle, and a Tokarev not the cheap crap from recent China manufacturer, but a bring home from a GI, who captured it in Vietnam. After the GI found that I had ammo for it, he begged for it back, so I sold it back for what I had given, and sold him the 300 round of surplus mauser ammo I had picked up in Shotgun News. He had been trying to feed it on 30 Luger and having some funny shaped cases after firing them. Ah well, he is gone now, as many of my friends. Wonder what happened to his pistol, he also had a capture SKS still in the paper that he dug out of a pile of rice in a village in Nam, it never made it into combat, and he would not part with it. Nice SKS as well with the blade bayonet and Russian markings, like the pistol.
Ways I think this could be turned into a modern pistol
1: add a modern slide system
2: shorten action so it fits within the slide
3: swap safety and bolt release lever positions
4: solid milled aluminum or steel frame
5: double stack feed system
6: .22 LR, 9x19mm, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP chamberings
So...a glock?
Tuton25 No. The Glock uses a tilting barrel locking system whereas this uses a rotating bolt. I would keep the rotating bolt.
the most natural caliber for this pistol would be Tok, if you shortened the action, you could perhaps lengthen the barrel too, that would also be a plus.
skeleton
Yeah, but if you're buying his revised version you're probably getting it because it's unique and reliable, not because it's a perfect replica of a really cool 19th. century pistol.
Serial no. 1 original Schwarzlose? Damn Ian, this might be the sleeper video on your channel for THE coolest pistol to which you've had access.
The machine work looks very smooth indeed. Very high quality build.
I wish a lot of these older designs were reproduced. In fact, if I had the capital to play with, I would try create such a company, specializing in reproductions of older designs.
Jesse Sisolack So, like Pietta/Uberti? Because that's what they do. And if you can get your cost/safety ratio right, it can be a pretty profitable venture.
DFX2KX Yes, but they have a specific nitch they fill, mostly late 1800s designs.
Me to bro I'd love to get one!
this is the most impressive pistol i have ever seen on your channel, except the lorenzoni of course. thank you very much for sharing this with us.
Excellent video! I really love getting the in-depth view of the mechanics in some of these old guns.
Wow, you got to actually shoot a Serial #1 weapon! Super-Duper! I'm horribly envious.
I had surgeries on my right shoulder and knee today and now I need to spend some downtime recovering. The Schwarzlose 1898 is a very interesting design. Thanks for posting this video. It was a wonderful distraction. Mike
Never seen this pistol.
Love this postol.
Thanks
Prime example of "I guess you're not ready for that yet, but your kids are gonna love it"
Also, don't forget that the early Beretta M9's had problems with the slides breaking and hitting the shooter in the face. One thing I don't really like about this pistol is the short sight radius. Other than that, it's quite nice and brutally simple.
Cameron Jenkins I hypothesize that that rifle like sight mounting helps with sight aquisition
Shane K Not so. If you simply search "beretta m9 slide failure" you'll find plenty of evidence to the contrary including government-produced reports on the failures. The problem doesn't exist anymore now that some manufacturing problems have been eliminated.
Oh ok, I understand. I personally think it's a quite nice handgun.
Cameron Jenkins
I was in the Army when the Army switched to M9s. I can support the fact that the m9s did have that problem. the simple solution was to put a half moon piece of steel (stopper) in the frame. Problem fixed.
I wish the Army (Military) had chosen the Para Ordinance 15 (.45) f15 shot .45 variant. but they did not and the M9 is now it.
This is the first time i hear about this weapon. Thanks for showing this great example for german gunsmithing art.
fascinating to watch the slow-mo and the mechanism of the pistol in action
Its like a bolt action semi auto dope gun just found out about it today on a short video and this is like the only video i found shooting it and its always forgotten weapons youtube channel dope stuff man
The multi-function spring reminds me of the Maxim-Silverman pistol from two years earlier, as does the rear-sight mounted fairly centrally. Could there be any connection?
(The Maxim-Silverman video was the one I saw just before this one.)
and they share the 'traveling' sear concept- as not part of the lower
The thing about that "flaw" with the back piece being a potential failure point for the gun is that it looks like it would be fairly easy to remedy by just beefing up that little rear loop and/ or the cross pin that holds it in. It would only add as much extra length and weight to the gun as it was deemed necessary to be strong enough. There's probably other ways to accomplish the same reinforcement by adding lugs to the frame that could help in catching the bolt, as well, but just beefing up the rear _seems_ to my uneducated eye as being the most straightforward way to do it without adding any additional complexity to the design or manufacturing process.
Yes, Remanufacturing it in stainless steel would be real nice :)))
Looks like an amazing little handgun, very innovative. Thanks to Steve and Ian for coming together to show this to us ^^ I can see why you'd want one, though I would personally want to do a little research into preventing that slide problem :P
This pistol is so flipping cool and it’s just so insane how modern this pistol is. 1898! That’s just ridiculous that it was made then. What a cool pistol
Thanks so much for posting! I've been searching for a video of this pistol shooting for so long! This made my day :)
VERY interesting video Ian. These early designs are fantastic.
if a hand gun can be handsome, this is it. lethal elegance....
Wow, what a magnificently ahead of it's time design!
That pistol is incredible. Hard to believe that such a modern style and innovative new mechanism was first used prior to 1900.
What a fantastic piece of design. Simple and elegant. Great vid.
I like watching the ejector just *yeet* the case out.
really neat gun! it seems like it would be pretty easy to engineer in a stop to keep the bolt from flying back if it were to break
the slide hold open part that Ian removed with the ejector- actually appears not to allow the bolt to travel far and bang/shear the rear 'loop'.
If the World of guns is accurate in their coding.
The rails design almost remind me of a CZ 75, my favorite modern pistol. I carry an SP-01 Every day. I'm definitely in love with this classic.
Excellent video, I love seeing this very clever designs from generations ago. That pinned ring at the back makes me wonder...if most of them ended up in Russia, did they hang around long enough in second-line service for somebody to eventually try loading one with 7.62 Tokarev? That seems very likely to cause the bolt to launch off the back of the pistol into the shooter's face. In fact, if somebody were to make a reproduction, it might be nice to engineer it for 7.62 Tokarev for safety and cross-compatibility.
A simple elegance in how this firearms form and function come together.
It's a beauty alright! Very clever design and elegant look. I would gladly have one but they are probably more expensive than a new house. This pistol is way better than a lot of nowadays guns. 6.4-inch barrel length with 7.63 Mauser round makes you dangerous at 100 yards if you know how to shot it properly. Anyway, it is a precious pistol!
I am always fascinated how the designers made the disassembly puzzle without the use of tools with these guns
re: unlocking/locking. the "doll's head" at the rear not only locates the firing pin and provides the "rails" for the bolt internally, it also acts as the cam for locking/unlocking (in the "neck" of the doll's head). that's why the groove is cut as a cam, and not just a relief shoulder (which would be a far easier, cheaper machining op). i agree Ian, this puppy remade with modern steel would be a REALLY nice firearm. in 630 or 8620/4140 (or even straight 4140), it would have some serious "bank vault like" brawn. it looks like a simple-ish mod to the build would make the doll's head mount a non-issue (thicker rear tang with a dovetail and pin, or even just a mortise and tenon joint as opposed to the rabbet used originally). hell, it actually looks pretty adaptable to "stampings and trunnions" type build-up, or even a polymer "frame" and "gut rail" system of assembly. a bright boy or gal could probably get a cnc setup to crank these out of bar stock pretty damned rapidly, and really cheaply (the cuts all appear VERY simple, especially using "robot craftsmen", and the small parts look fairly adaptable to stamp and dress to fit assembly). honestly, this could be the next "ruger mark 1 .22" utility class plinker, especially with the cost similarity with 9mm cheapo and .22 LR these days
I'd say it's about time they bring this design back, though probably with less enormous safety and bolt hold up lever and more bolts to prevent catastrophic slide launching failures. It is a very aesthetically pleasing gun, apart from the odd looking slide grips at the back just jutting out.
And to whoever let you borrow the gun and fire it - Thank you.
I was researching pistols for a dieselpunk 1930s story,, and I think I'm in love...
The others I've looked at include a Charola y Anitua in 7mm, and a Webley Fosberry (sp?) in 455, but this is an actual service pistol. And a very nice one at that!
Damn, I fell asleep when you were shooting that little blow forward jewel, only to awaken to my favorite pistol of ALL TIME, GOD HOW I WANT ONE OF THOSE!!!
The design is ingenious, but one can imagine each step of machining at the turn if the century...yeech! It's pretty amazing that such designs were the order of the day, and also pretty easy to see why governments were the primary buyers. Buying one of these would have been the same as buying a motorcycle or a solid used car.
"Just pull this back ABOUT 15mm" 😆
I love how Ian disassembles guns, he really knows what he's doing and doesn't hesitate to share it with us.
I will be looking for one of these for the rest of my life. A beautiful pistol and piece
I would love to own one. If a company begins to manufacture them in the future I will definetly buy one as soon as it becomes available. What an awesome design and beautiful execution.
Intriguing....
First off, may I say how refreshing it is to find someone on youtube who shares a passion for weapons without the obligatory bravado around it? my compliments for the well reasoned and calm demeanor you have on camera, it really is refreshing. Also thank you for having an interest in old weapons and a willingness to seek them out and be able to show us how they worked. It really is educational.
Secondly, it's an intriguing little gun, I do have a few questions though, what does it do soundwise? is the bang very loud for instance? the microphone on cameras doesn't necessarily convey this well. From first glances I'd say this was a gun favoured by assassins and spies, even though I'm not too sure about that. It's mainly due to the size, though I have no idea as to how tall you are. The gun also looks quite delicate.
Sean, as always a great review. You are a unique blend of college professor, engineer and arms expert with the soothing voice of Mr. Rogers. Enjoy your postings immensely.
this thing is insanely ahead of its time, it has everything expected of modern pistols, its like the designer literally saw the future, also i love pistols where only the rear part reciprocates i just think that looks cool
its pretty aesthetically pleasing too
I like this gun, wouldn't mind it if the few minor problems were ironed out but it seems very capable and could be a respectable gun among more modern pistols
This very interesting pistol has a lot of small and intricate machining in it. Quite impressive for the age of the design, also it's probably why it was not produced in large numbers. Machining and tolerances like that are very time consuming to do and thus expensive. Also that one pin in the rear that keeps the slide from comming of and hitting the shooter was most likely realized way back when and did not inspire confidence in those who would want to purchase one. Some minor design changes for durability and this would be an equivalent of modern pistols. Very cool!!
My friend has a 22.lr luger that was built in like 1910 or something it can actually cycle all 10 rounds it looks a lot like this. Crazy how semi auto pistols used to look like a tube with a pistol grip.
Okay this is gonna be the base for a new starwars blaster I want to sketch!
the 1 spring.... wow just wow for a gun older than 100 yrs old... just amazing.
Very nice looking pistol.
i would have to say the real beauty of this pistol lies in it'e remarkable simplicity and innovative design. i mean 1 spring that does 4 functions. i would say that qualifies as ingenious mechanical design.
The extractor is also the sear lol
I really like the Iron sight
We really haven't come all that far in firearms.
There really isn't all that far to go. There are only so many ways to shoot a bullet out of a barrel and reload another cartridge. The Bond Bullpup (formerly the Boberg) revived the Mars pistol reverse extraction mechanism to try to give more barrel length in a compact pistol, but it's yet to be accepted due to cartridge separation.
This handgun is one of the beacon of hopes of early handgun design and today in 7.63 mauser with something like that I would happy with paying for it.
Thanks for showing us the Schwazlose 1898.
I love the simplicity of the design.
Watching the action in slow motion, I can't see how that bolt would ever break away and slide off the back.
The pin and the guide both seam to be too thick to shear.
The guide would probably bend 1st, causing the slide to get stuck, and disabling the pistol to fire.
Hence the pin is designed into the mechanism to replace that part. (my guess)
Is there any recorded reports of that shear-off ever happening?
I'm doubting it.
Fantastic video as usual. You mentioned that you would love to have one of these in your own collection which got me wondering; how extensive is your own personal collection of rare firearms?
Ydna San I would describe my own collection as WMD-level to the mainstream media, huge to the average gun owner, not too bad to the serious gun collector, and undersized and heavy on inexpensive guns compared to the collections which many of my video'd guns are borrowed from.
Forgotten Weapons where can I get one of these
Forgotten Weapons "I probably have more than I need, but less that I would like," is the typical answer to "How large is your collection?"
Forgotten Weapons This could very well be the best reply ive ever read from any youtuber ever
Very advanced features for its time...would be suitable 50m target pistol.
I can see in today's manufacturing environment that this would be a easy do & a good seller..
I would say that the model 1900 browning auto which sold over a million units prior to being discontinued in 1912, may have influenced sales...but this 1898 pistol has locking bolt which is not normally seen at this time..
The disconnector is simple too..(prevents full auto).. Brilliant, thanks..
One thing I think he forgot to mention is that the extractor is also the sear
this video was posted on my birthday :)
Noticed on the slo-mo that the rear sight seems loose or not secure enough for the recoil. You can see the back of the sight move up and down on recoil, IE: bouncing.
What a beautiful gun. I wish they were more available
This is one of my favorite F W videos.
I would buy one of these! Such a truly leading edge design. It would be nice to have a virtual trial of this vs the two or three contemporary pistols of the time and show each gun as the desinger would then play the role of the inspector and find the reasons why one is better than the other.
That is a damn clever design.
Another solid review of an awesome gun. Keep up the work!
schwarzlose ? was it the same disigner/s who made the 1908 blow forward pistol.
munkSWE88 Yup, same guy. He also had an 1891 semiauto pistol (didn't work so well) and the primary heavy machine gun used by the Austro-Hungarian military. ruclips.net/video/9_pWNjuZj30/видео.html
Thank you very, very much! I really enjoyed that. It was absolutely fascinating.
Wow this is a beautiful piece of machinery
The Beretta 92F had also an issue with the slide shooting back out of the rail stops. That's why the 92F has a "S" type upgrade. Sooo, also modern guns are not perfect.
6:00 voice crack! Great video ian keep up the good work!
And 9:23
this is really cool! it looks like a old Mauser and Desert Eagle were put in a blender and sent through a time machine. also, it's a very "steampunk" design. once again, very good video!