My uncle plays snaggletooth in the catina bar scene it took a week to film i believe we still have his payslips harrison ford and lucas were lovely people to work with he would tell me
Liz Moore is the lady who sculpted the Stormtrooper helmet & C-C-3PO suit (later reworked). Like most of the main special effects team, she worked on 2001: A Space Odyssey making the ape mask's working jaws. She sculpted Korova Milk Bar nude ladies too. She died in a car crash before Star Wars was released.
9:55 Where did you hear this Spaceballs story? The escape pod in that film don’t correlate at all with John Barry’s design work on Star Wars. The one in Spaceballs specifically has the small window the practical set displayed while C-3PO and R2-D2 are looking out a bigger window in this film.
That would be Ben Burtt. He was responsible for creating all the cool sound effects. Vaders breathing, light sabers, lazer blast sounds, etc, everything. There's documentaries on him showing how he did it all
I recently got to see a live orchestra performing film music, hearing the main star wars theme live was truly amazing and showed just how good John Williams score was.
I am that old. I saw Star Wars on it's first run seven or eight times. I remember, during that period, 'Episode IV' being added to the title. Shocked I tell you, shocked!
Absolutely, the updated versions really pull you out of the movie with the silly added effects, only way to watch it is with the original version from 1977.
Oliver speaking of the Death Stars laser operative; "imagine your job is just to press that button. It's quite a cushy job". Rob, "well, you only get to do it twice before you die..." Absolutely hilarious. This was such an enjoyable listen, thank you. The affection you guys have for this trilogy comes through in spades. What will be next I wonder? Prometheus? Terminator Dark Fate? Die Hard 2? Empire? I look forward to whatever it'll be. Cheers.
Extremely relatable conversation! I was obsessed with the originals as a kid, and the repeat viewing of my betamax copies embedded the tape flaws into my conscious that I still expect to see them on modern copies. I am also embarrassed to be associated with the current fan culture that surrounds the franchise. I can happily say that the current iterations of the 4K77 and 4K83 fan scans are genuinely great, and 4K80 is pretty good, if still a work in progress.
Betamax was my introduction to the series as well. This is the first movie I remember seeing as a child. The first 3 will always be the best. Hard to be a fan today, Disney Star Wars is not what I grew up with. But I think much like Prequel haters, the Disney Haters have to realize this era isn’t being made for them. Every generation has “their” Star Wars.
Sadly the new Star Wars content by Disney is so bad I completely agree with anyone who complains about it. It's an insult to the original films and the fans have every right to express their displeasure with it. What makes me sad to be a fan is when I see shills or fans so blinded by their nostalgia that they are willing to overlook any and all flaws. Like people crying during trailers for new Disney stuff. As a Wiseman said "Don't ask questions. Just consume product and get excited for next product".
Despite there being no connection to the holidays beyond Life Day, these still became holiday movies jsut because they got ran so often at that time of year, and for no particular reason. There's a general theme of goodness and rebirth present, sure, and there are red and green lasers and laser swords, but it's an entirely separate universe from any that contains a Christmas. At least in the US, I can't recall a holiday season when the OT wasn't a reasonably common option to watch on regular cable tv.
I remember going to the local cinema when the film came out. I had already bought so many magazines with my pocket money that featured anything Star Wars related. I was spellbound for its entirety. I vividly remember going back to the car with my family and imagining the multistory carpark as the Death Star and I was a rebel fighter. Suffice to say I begged my parents for weeks to buy me Star Wars figures.
I’ll be that guy; the clones and their backstory as well as subsequent phasing out has been covered by both Lucas and recent creative heads like Dave Filoni. Also I disagree that the Jedi were made bigger than they were supposed to be in the prequels - Ben clearly states they were guardians of peace and justice. Thus they were essentially super powered morality police lol. So I think there were plenty of things on the table for Lucas to mine for a prequel not just fan headcanon stuff. The novelization of the original film, written in 1976, both named the Emperor (whose name is never mentioned in the original trilogy) and had more background explained. Anyways, Great commentary guys!
My friend has the de specialized Edition Blu-Ray while my DVD did come with the Anamorphic version on the second disc. The Special editions despite their flaws, is what I'm familiar with.
@@SmashBrosAssembleDetails like that were known for decades picking up little details here and there. George was very vain about not mentioning her contributions in official accounts of the making of the films, despite her being the only Lucas who has an Oscar. It was such a pleasure to hear directly from her.
Fantastic will enjoy this. 4K77 as stated here by others is the best way to watch this. 4K80 and 4K83 also exist. They are out there. Sometimes even on a disc.
@@mechinateJust look up 4k77 and you will find your way from there. There are even a few places that will make you copies. It's well worth the effort.
Fun Fact: Sir Alec Guinness was the original choice to play Burnett Stone in *"THOMAS and The Magic Railroad"* but he turned it down due to his age and retirement. Plus, Ewan McGregor (alongside Bob Hoskins) expressed interest in voicing Thomas the Tank Engine, before they went with John Bellis (a fireman & part-time taxi driver, in the the original cut) and then finally Eddie Glen (in the final cut). So in an alternate universe, we could've had Obi-Wan Kenobi from both the prequel & original *"STAR WARS"* trilogy in the film with a Really Useful Engine.
@@white-dragon4424 You mean Marcia who worked under Lucas? And she fought to keep the the edits that Lucas removed on the first release the ones you’re lying and claiming Lucas made
@@harrythedirty4256 She cut everything like the Biggs scenes because they didn't work. Same with Luke seeing the battle from the planet's surface. She even suggested killing Obi-Wan, having the Death Star orbiting Yavin during the battle, and having Luke make just one run at the exhaust port rather than two. Ironically, Gorge wanted to cut all humour from the movie, things like the Mouse Droid and "the kiss for luck", because he didn't like people laughing at the movie, but she advised him to keep them in.
I love the final battle in this movie. The space battles Lucas did in later movies has almost too much happening on screen too fast for my old eyes to keep up with.
Discussing special edition's VS theatrical releases, catch Adywans Revisited version. It's a "what the 97 SE should have been". His ESB:RE is outstanding, especially the Hoth Battle is amazing. The only frustrating thing is, he takes ages to finish these versions due to his long list of unlucky life situations.
The 2006 DVD release has all three OG movies unaltered on each disc and as a guy who grew up watching um on TV I love all the scratches pops and whistles it's literally my most prized possession..... SOOOOOO HA Screw you Lucas😂
Actually, it's the second release on DVD that has the theatrical cuts as a bonus features . Those came out in 2006 . The first DVD release was in 2004 and did not include them . Also , the 2006 is a non anamorphic laserdisc transfer from the 1993 laserdisc release of the OT
@darkempire37 I stand corrected though the box art is nearly identical so it's an easy mistake. However this is why one should always read the packaging as it clearly states the original Trilogy on the 2006 version and that version is the closest we've ever gotten to what was on Movie Screens all those years ago.
Just imagine if anyone could make a movie like this again! People criticise Lucas however he absolutely nailed it - especially with his investment in ILM & John Williams…
Wow, someone else saw the parallel with 80s Boots cameras?! As a kid (born in 77) I actually believed that SW was real - that it had happened somewhere at some time. Perhaps channelled? I find that to be a powerful example of how myth is forever true. Star Wars and Metallica: Both iconic institutions of childhood ruined. Only Iron Maiden endured (with a small blazing hiccup). I guess Slayer and Megadeth didn't self-destruct too much either. Comics were everything to me back then. Spent more time with pictures than film. The cultural peak of the West was the 80s. It's been downhill since then. There was a sweet spot for an analogue peak before digital made everything unreal... better but worse. IMO
It's a myth that Lucas made all of the Imperials English in ANH. If you listen, not only do the Stormtroopers and TIE pilots have American accents, but the Stormtrooper officers (the ones in the black uniforms) all have American accents as well. Lucas even dubbed some of the English Stormtrooper officers (like the one in the detention block) with American accents. It's ESB where Kershner purposely made all the Rebels American and most of the Imperials English. Saying that though, even in ESB a few Imperials still had American accents. The AT-AT walker pilot had an American accent, as did Captain Needa's executive officer and the pit crew chief who reported to Needa that the Falcon had disappeared from the Avenger's scanners. In ROTJ we went back to mixed accents again, with Imperials like the Scout Troopers and the Stormtrooper officer who calls Han "You Rebel scum" being American, as well as all of the Rebel leaders having English accents. Lucas was and always has been notorious for not being able to direct actors. Even in ANH, he struggled with describing what he wanted to the actors, to the point that he tended to leave everything to do with the actors up to GARY KURTZ! It was Kurtz who dealt most with the actors, whilst Lucas saw to the technical side of things. Whenever Lucas tried to convey what he wanted to the actors, he mostly told them to stick to the script and to do everything "faster and more intense". The actors got so frustrated with Lucas' bad direction that Ford is famous for telling him that "he could write this shit, but he couldn't say it". I think that's the real main reason why Lucas didn't return to make the PT for so long, because by the late 90's no one would argue with the suppose "legend". It certainly wasn't because the tech wasn't there to create places like Coruscant in the 80's! ruclips.net/video/2wXymtELxlI/видео.html What versions of the OT would most people want to watch? Well, when the two disk DVD came out with the original versions as the "bonus disks", people were reportedly buying them and chucking the SE disks away! Boba Fett WASN'T even created when ANH was made, so he certainly wasn't in the original Jabba scene. He was created during the making of ESB. The Boba Fett in the SE of ANH is a member of staff dressed in the outfit. ruclips.net/video/yYAGvqq5tZs/видео.html Dave Prowse was excluded from conventions because he supposedly blabbed about Vader being Luke's father before the release of ESB. But in actual fact, it was just a lucky (unlucky?) guess, because when he said so it was in an interview BEFORE Lucas had decided to make him his father, let alone written the scene.
I could probably print a stormtrooper custom out for Rob 😂 I’ve just gotten into 3d printing and prop building Nerd dreams come true As for the clone lore question regarding the stormtroopers, yes after the prequels it was Lucas’ idea that all stormtroopers in the OT should be clones. Hence why Jango bumped his head on slave 1 in episode 2. That has since retconned by Disney and in the bad batch they show how clones slowly were replaced by recruits from the empire.
Please tell me you have seen 'darth vader in love' from the Peter Serafenowicz show. It's utterly hilarious, especially the way vader keeps saying 'what?'
I have the 2004 Special Edition DVD of the *"STAR WARS"* Trilogy, which is my preferred version. Not a fan of the 2011 Special Edition Blu-Ray. *"STAR WARS"* (1977/2004) had the better CGI Jabba the Hutt (compared to the 1997 Cut), and "Ben" Kenobi had the better animal sound (it was even used in the LEGO *"STAR WARS"* Video Game) to scare off the Tusken Raiders. Though I do wish they kept some of the earlier elements: Princess Leia's blaster having the famous Dirty Harry .44 Magnum sound (heard in the 1977 Mono mix); Aunt Beru's original voice (also heard in the 1977 Mono mix); and the extra audible line: "He's on your tail!", before Red Leader was gunned down by Darth Vader.
Please oh please do at least Empire strikes back as well. It doesn't have to be all the star wars movies, but Empire commentary would be so very sweet. If not its all good
I keep getting reminded the Star Wars is Science Fantasy and not Science Fiction. To me that distinction is quite unimportant because of the amount of people who like both genres and not just one of them. I love Sci-fi but Star Wars is something that I like rather than love. Saying that... Return of the Jedi is my favourite of the three originals and actually one of my favourite movies of all time so I'm elated to hear you both defending it to a degree. I know the Ewoks are silly but at the age I was at the time, that didn't matter. Even now I love the infiltration of the shield generator, the space battles, the Speeder bikes, Luke's story and Vader's redemption. Speaking about ages. Ralph Macchio now doing Cobra Kai and is older than Pat Morita was for the first Karate Kid. I'm now pretty much the same age as Roy Scheider in Jaws and (Star Wars plug) Max Von Sydow was in The Exorcist. I know Max was in old age makeup but it's still mind-blowing at times. Fantastic commentaries.
Well it is based off Flash Gordon of course but it really has more in common with Lord of the Rings or King Arthur. The fantasy elements are pretty strong as well as the western elements ECT. So really it's a huge hodge podge of everything. The Lensman books are a pretty big influence as well. I've always liked original Star Trek better myself but it's easy to see the appeal of the original Star Wars films. The Disney stuff can be ignored.
Ah Star Wars. I remember i had taken all my money from chores and bought a small CRTV with a video player and with the help of borrowing my uncles copy’s of the VHS I watched the movie every day for 5 years, probably from age 5 to age 10 no joke it was always on and always playing in the background. I’d watch all three before the end of the night every night well doing other things
Regarding Star Wars taking all this stuff you've seen before and essentially throwing it in a big pot... I would strongly argue that we hadn't seen The Force. We'd seen crystal balls, magic lamps and magic swords, but not people with an innate magical energy bubbling under the surface inside themselves.
Oh God, look I love Rob (you're alright too Ollie) his videos are fantastic but the story he tells from 08:35 onwards (about that "disastrous" early screening and how the film was then "saved in the edit" mostly by George's then-wife) is complete fiction. The version of the film Lucas's friends saw in that screening was actually edited by the final team of Chew, Hirsch and George and Marcia Lucas and (editing-wise at least) was incredibly close to the final cut. The only differences (editing-wise) were that the cutaways to the Death Star during the 1st act were in a slightly different order and... that's it actually. In fact the film was so far along by that point that both Marcia Lucas and Richard Chew were no longer working on the movie, having both moved on to other projects by that point making Rob's whole story impossible. Look I know where he's got it from, it's from this godawful RUclips video essay but I'm sorry that thing is a complete work of fiction. They just flat-out lied and made up facts that didn't exist. And I know they lied because I've read their sources, the best one being The Making of Star Wars by J.W. Rinzler, and they ALL tell a completely different narrative to the one presented in the video. The people who were there who've talked about it the years since, like De Palma and Spielberg, have not come out and said that the editing was what broke the movie, that's literally just one RUclipsr lying to you Rob.
Yes and no. It is in the correct aspect ratio of 2.35:1, but doesn't "stretch" to fully fit the screen of a widescreen tv. You get black borders on all 4 sides. You have to manually zoom in on settings.
Since 1999 I’m very much take it or leave it with Star Wars, if it’s good like Rogue One, The Clone Wars, Rebels, Jedi Survivor, Andor I’ll take it. If it’s bad like the Prequels, Sequels, Acolyte, Book of Boba Fett I just leave it & move on.
I also agree and avoid all Disney slop. What Harmy did was impressive but Project 4k77 is better since they actually had a real film print to work with. Harmy sadly could only do a kind of Frankenstein job using different sources.
With regard to Vader being subordinate to Tarkin, I remember reading some Star Wars comic a few years ago (in which Vader is the main character) and apparently Vader respected Tarkin for his cunning and ruthlessness. It is also implied that this is the chain of command the Emperor desires, and with Vader not being as powerful as the Emperor, he had no choice but to accept it, regardless of whether he respected Tarkin or not. Anyway, this commentary is a nice little Christmas present from Oliver and Rob. Nice one. 😊
Personally i will only ever watch the original unaltered versions before they were messed with, I have the 2 disc DVDs from 2004 that came with the unaltered versions as a bonus
"He spent thousands and thousands of pounds on these helmets and I was so jealous.." This video is full of one liners that should be taken out of context.
Why would Boba Fett look at the camera like he did? That was total fan service. He’s also in his Return of the Jedi costume which came out six years after this one. And who the hell is Java?
@@OliverHarperI completely stand corrected!! I was positive he was in there! First official appearance (outside of a parade) was that Holiday Special Cartoon I guess
Pity a commentary for this film wasn't ever done with Richard and Duncan. Even with all the damage done by Disney and their DEI slop I still have the urge to warch the original once in awhile. I have the 2011 blu ray but the special editions really bother me so I always turn them off. Harmy did a good job trying to restore the films but his version was a Frankenstein type version with different sources. Then Project 4k77 was available and they actually had an original film print of the movie. As That Damm Fool Idealistic Crusade has talked about in great detail,no home version of the original films have ever been theater accurate,let alone the terrible 2004 bonus discs. Even the Japanese laserdiscs had sound changes,color changes and even a few lines if dialogue added. So seeing 4k77 was a breath of fresh air and is now the only way I watch the film.
People didn't mind the special edition versions until George declared there would never be a release of the original films. because he did not preserve the masters and did not want the originals available. I once spoke to a woman from Lucas film fan relations. My friend introduced me as a fan of Jedi. I told her I don't like jedi, they kidnap slave kids ANF force them into their cult and kill millions of aliens, and cheat to trick people. But that is just in the prequels so I don't love Star Wars made after 1983
That's exactly it. I don't mind that the special versions exist, although even those have been changed like 3 times now. It's the fact that Lucas made the strange decision to try to erase the films as they were from existence. This from a man that in the 70s and 80s talked about how important it is that we preserve film for the history of it. If there was a set like Blade Runner with every version of the film it would be fine. But now it's unlikely we will see the originals. A marketing friend of mine actually brought up the point that even if they could Disney probably would not release the original unaltered versions simply because of the fact that they would sell so massively that they would make everything they have made look bad. It's a very possible idea sadly .
People forget how much the SE releases revitalised Star Wars. It'd been a huge part of my life until the mid-80s but it was just that - a childhood interest. Thought nothing of it until I was about 20 when my friends and I all saw the remasters at the cinema and then started getting invested in the run-up to the prequels.
@@jacobturnerartAt this point I think it would have better if Star Wars hadn't been boosted up again in popularity. It should have just been a nicely done series in the past instead of the endlessly milked abomination that it is now.
@@kellinwinslow1988 I think that George Lucas should have had the opportunity to tell the story he wanted to make. I ignored all of the expanded universe stuff and was only interested in the films. Sadly, Disney did their utmost to make it impossible to enjoy or appreciate Star Wars without consuming absolutely everything they manufactured.
George Lucas is a great ideas man, you take ideas & give them to right team of Filmmakers & storytellers, the results are amazing, when he does it himself, it’s cack because he cannot write a script or direct traffic.
@@SosiskaTheHorrible Yes, but I believe it was an obsession he had with making the things in the movie aliens. Spielberg didn't want to do more aliens after Close Encounters and ET, but Lucas was insistent. In the end, Lucas gave the impression that he'd changed his mind, and Spielberg was overjoyed. But when he asked what Lucas had decided on, he said that they were aliens from another dimension and Spielberg almost blew a gasket! It was then that he just decided to give up and play along. In the end he was right, the movie did turn out to be a disaster. Lucas was also the one who wanted Indiana to be in the fridge when the nuke went off, because he believed that there was a chance that a person could survive, which is madness!
This film is a perfect fluke, combined with a coming together of brilliant individual talent working for the greater whole. Without John Williams, Ben Burtt, the casting of Alec Guiness and Harrison Ford, Ralph McQuarrie's concept art and the SFX team it could have ended up a distinctly average or poor movie. I don't mean George was only lucky but for all the necessary elements to come together at that particular moment in time is quite remarkable. It truly is a once in a lifetime event that the Universe or fate or whatever managed to conspire for reasons unknown.. Like Lennon, McCartney and Harrison meeting as kids at that particular moment in music history and later getting George Martin as their producer. If they hadn't done history would be very different. There's probably some other comparable examples but I can't think of any as big for influencing pop culture in the last 70 odd years. Lucas obviously wrote the idea based on elements of myths, westerns and fairytales and Flash Gordon with a Nazi's vs Allies vibe thrown in and some pilfering from Kurosawa but his invention of the ambiguous 'Force' was his genuine masterstroke. He later proved this film as the perfect fluke by making the prequels and seemingly misunderstanding the story he wrote and why it and the characters captured the imagination in the first place. If you'd never heard of Star Wars and wanted to know what it was then this film is still the best example of it. For the pure magic of a 6 year old child watching a film about magic and space wizards and laser swords and a princess getting rescued and taking on the bad guys then this is it. It is still my favourite of the trilogy and has the strongest music score and most iconic amount of 'star warsy' moments in one film. Calling this film a cultural behemoth would be an understatement.
I'm so over Star Wars that I don't watch anything related to it anymore. But I will make an exception for you guys. And what you say at the beginning is true; George Lucas is a genius and does deserve more credit than he gets. The only beef I have with Red Letter Media's criticism of him is that they propagated this idea that he merely lucked into his succes by having better people do all the work. I think that's total BS.. From the info that's out there, he was a bloody good producer and its down to him that the films came out as good as they were. Especially the ones we all agree are great.
Red letter media do give Lucas credit as a genius businessman. However, it’s undeniable that the more artistic control Lucas had the worse the movies came. After Empire, had he just remained a producer and engaged writers and directors, his subsequent movies would have been far better.
@ Aye, the prequels are the product of him having too much say. And I’m not dying on the hill or worshipping at the alter of George Lucas. It’s just there’s those narratives out there that are nonsense and spread unchallenged. Like this notion that Gary Kurtz was the reason the first two films are great when there’s more than enough material out there suggesting it was Lucas who saw Star Wars and Empire over the finish line. Don’t get me wrong about RedLetterMedia. They had some good criticisms. One thing they turned me around on for example was Yoda fighting. They were right that emphasising his strength over wisdom is antithetical to the philosophy of the Force. But they made it weirdly personal with Lucas, and while they understand film theory and storytelling, their cynicism is an unfortunate byproduct that’s spread out thru internet culture. In my opinion. Like I said I don’t bother with anything Star Wars anymore. I only gave this commentary a go ‘cause of who’s involved.
I'm not a huge Star Wars fan but I like the original 3 but its hard to watch them now because of the crazy online drama and Disney milking the hell out of it. I wish Disney and others would just let old stuff die instead of trying to create cinematic universes but I also wish 40 year old guys that should sorting their collection screws in coffee jars would stop complaining online everywhere about how Disney destroyed their childhood.
I completely agree. I grew up with all these franchises and like them of course. But I'm so sick of these constant recycling of the past. I'm over Marvel,Terminator, Predator,Star Wars ECT. And what they have done with things like Star Trek,which I absolutely love the original films,is terrible let alone garbage like Alien Romulus. It's all about tapping into nostalgia now which I try to have none of. It's sad that aside from a few things the current generation really has nothing to call it's own. The shadow of the 1970s and 80s looms so large that it covers everything now and not for the better. Give me something interesting like Upgrade or a lot of anime frankly than most of the DEI filled slop that comes out now.
While superman the movie is my all time favourite ,star wars was hugely influential to me ,as a 1st generation fan this film landed with the impact of a hydrogen bomb,interesting these original films are the only ones my kids watch ,they have zero interest in the the disney sequels
Dykstra and his effects guys were initially given about one year to do their stuff. Every other Star Wars film had up to three years to work on the storyboards and effects work. To claim that they were screwing up in the 70s cos they were lazy stoners hardly seems like the whole story.
And sorry Oliver. The fans aren't the ones who destroyed Star Wars. It was Disney and not only their DEI garbage but the complete ineptitude of Abrams and Kennedy. It's clear that they had no idea what they were doing with the new films. It was even admitted that they just went with Abrams's stupid mystery box nonsense and didn't plan anything out. Then the complete tearing down of the legacy characters and just basically pissing the well. No one wanted then to screw it up yet they did. And now the brand is so damaged,much like the terrible Abrams and Kurtzman Star Trek,that even if something decent does come out it's too little too late. There will always be certain fans who take things too far. That's always existed. But the inherent flaws are all Disney's fault. Blaming the fans only makes you seem foolish.
Yeah. While there are parts I like they are not good films. Kind of unwatchable really. It's only because of the total garbage that the DEI communist loving Disney has cranked out that the prequels seem good at all. Much like I have to agree with Mauler that Alien Romulus is so bad it makes Alien 3 look good.
Love these commentaries. You guys rock.
Same. They’re glorious
My uncle plays snaggletooth in the catina bar scene it took a week to film i believe we still have his payslips harrison ford and lucas were lovely people to work with he would tell me
That's really cool, how's your uncle these days?
Now, that's a video that I've been waiting for for a long time! A long time!
Liz Moore is the lady who sculpted the Stormtrooper helmet & C-C-3PO suit (later reworked). Like most of the main special effects team, she worked on 2001: A Space Odyssey making the ape mask's working jaws. She sculpted Korova Milk Bar nude ladies too. She died in a car crash before Star Wars was released.
That’s incredibly sad.
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The holidays have been depressing this year, thanks for showing out dudes
They tend to be that after you hit 25 or so. 🫣
@@AleksandarBloompretty much😂. When you realize it’s just a big commercial designed to keep the economy going, Christmas is very depressing.
Yes get in!
Cheers for this Mr Harper and good old Rob Hill!
Indeed.💯❤️🙏
This was my first commentary watch from you guys. Really enjoyed it! Thanks!
9:55 Where did you hear this Spaceballs story? The escape pod in that film don’t correlate at all with John Barry’s design work on Star Wars. The one in Spaceballs specifically has the small window the practical set displayed while C-3PO and R2-D2 are looking out a bigger window in this film.
Did not expect Rob to be the first one to bring up Superman... 😉
Whoever decided that the enemy space fighter should sound like.a demonic scream that still passes as as a mechanical engine was an absolute genius.
That would be Ben Burtt. He was responsible for creating all the cool sound effects. Vaders breathing, light sabers, lazer blast sounds, etc, everything. There's documentaries on him showing how he did it all
This was a great commentary guys! I hope the both of you do a commentary for ESB and ROTJ!
Seconded!
I recently got to see a live orchestra performing film music, hearing the main star wars theme live was truly amazing and showed just how good John Williams score was.
Yeah I remember doing those in middle school concerts. Great times
Honestly crying laughing at the Kenny Baker cigarette recollection!! 😂
I am that old. I saw Star Wars on it's first run seven or eight times. I remember, during that period, 'Episode IV' being added to the title. Shocked I tell you, shocked!
Perfect time to watch the Despecialized version with this.
the only way/versions to watch...
@@v.rudeboy98294K77 is the best one. Seek it out
Absolutely, the updated versions really pull you out of the movie with the silly added effects, only way to watch it is with the original version from 1977.
where can someone find it?
@@JWB671 look for star wars despecialized in certain places
4k77 & Adywans revisited ... the only way. ❤
Oliver speaking of the Death Stars laser operative; "imagine your job is just to press that button. It's quite a cushy job". Rob, "well, you only get to do it twice before you die..." Absolutely hilarious.
This was such an enjoyable listen, thank you. The affection you guys have for this trilogy comes through in spades.
What will be next I wonder? Prometheus? Terminator Dark Fate? Die Hard 2? Empire? I look forward to whatever it'll be. Cheers.
Extremely relatable conversation! I was obsessed with the originals as a kid, and the repeat viewing of my betamax copies embedded the tape flaws into my conscious that I still expect to see them on modern copies. I am also embarrassed to be associated with the current fan culture that surrounds the franchise.
I can happily say that the current iterations of the 4K77 and 4K83 fan scans are genuinely great, and 4K80 is pretty good, if still a work in progress.
Betamax was my introduction to the series as well. This is the first movie I remember seeing as a child. The first 3 will always be the best. Hard to be a fan today, Disney Star Wars is not what I grew up with. But I think much like Prequel haters, the Disney Haters have to realize this era isn’t being made for them. Every generation has “their” Star Wars.
Sadly the new Star Wars content by Disney is so bad I completely agree with anyone who complains about it. It's an insult to the original films and the fans have every right to express their displeasure with it. What makes me sad to be a fan is when I see shills or fans so blinded by their nostalgia that they are willing to overlook any and all flaws. Like people crying during trailers for new Disney stuff. As a Wiseman said "Don't ask questions. Just consume product and get excited for next product".
Despite there being no connection to the holidays beyond Life Day, these still became holiday movies jsut because they got ran so often at that time of year, and for no particular reason. There's a general theme of goodness and rebirth present, sure, and there are red and green lasers and laser swords, but it's an entirely separate universe from any that contains a Christmas. At least in the US, I can't recall a holiday season when the OT wasn't a reasonably common option to watch on regular cable tv.
I remember going to the local cinema when the film came out. I had already bought so many magazines with my pocket money that featured anything Star Wars related. I was spellbound for its entirety. I vividly remember going back to the car with my family and imagining the multistory carpark as the Death Star and I was a rebel fighter. Suffice to say I begged my parents for weeks to buy me Star Wars figures.
Outrageous Droids slander 😂. I loved that cartoon
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I’ll be that guy; the clones and their backstory as well as subsequent phasing out has been covered by both Lucas and recent creative heads like Dave Filoni. Also I disagree that the Jedi were made bigger than they were supposed to be in the prequels - Ben clearly states they were guardians of peace and justice. Thus they were essentially super powered morality police lol. So I think there were plenty of things on the table for Lucas to mine for a prequel not just fan headcanon stuff. The novelization of the original film, written in 1976, both named the Emperor (whose name is never mentioned in the original trilogy) and had more background explained.
Anyways, Great commentary guys!
Absolutely do Empire and Jedi! I would watch you two rip the piss out of Phantom Menace 😂
Kenny Baker did put full acting effort into the roll and thus brought something special to the roll.
What a Creator Team Up.
My friend has the de specialized Edition Blu-Ray while my DVD did come with the Anamorphic version on the second disc. The Special editions despite their flaws, is what I'm familiar with.
The unsung hero of this film is Marcia Lucas.
Loved seeing her give her side of the story in the Icons Unearthed.
@
A the video “How Star Wars was saved in the edit.” Really shed light on how she made the film as good as it is.
@@SmashBrosAssembleDetails like that were known for decades picking up little details here and there. George was very vain about not mentioning her contributions in official accounts of the making of the films, despite her being the only Lucas who has an Oscar. It was such a pleasure to hear directly from her.
And that Asian guy.
Hey Lucas is Lucas.
Great episode!
Fantastic will enjoy this. 4K77 as stated here by others is the best way to watch this. 4K80 and 4K83 also exist. They are out there. Sometimes even on a disc.
Could you or anyone point me in the right direction as to where to watch these?
@@mechinateJust look up 4k77 and you will find your way from there. There are even a few places that will make you copies. It's well worth the effort.
For what it's worth I remember seeing ANH on the TV when i was in 2nd year at infants school. That would be 1983/4.
Start it, and I’m see him in my head Oliver and Rob.
Fun Fact:
Sir Alec Guinness was the original
choice to play Burnett Stone in
*"THOMAS and The Magic Railroad"*
but he turned it down due to his age
and retirement.
Plus, Ewan McGregor (alongside
Bob Hoskins) expressed interest
in voicing Thomas the Tank Engine,
before they went with John Bellis
(a fireman & part-time taxi driver,
in the the original cut) and then finally
Eddie Glen (in the final cut).
So in an alternate universe, we could've
had Obi-Wan Kenobi from both the
prequel & original *"STAR WARS"* trilogy
in the film with a Really Useful Engine.
37:33 Both movies shared the same production designer.
This is so funny, I literally just watched this movie for the first time a couple days ago
Thank you Lucas fir saving the Star Wars edit in the editing room
Yes, thanks Marcia Lucas for saving the films from the disaster that could've been.
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You mean Marcia who worked under Lucas? And she fought to keep the the edits that Lucas removed on the first release the ones you’re lying and claiming Lucas made
@@harrythedirty4256 She cut everything like the Biggs scenes because they didn't work. Same with Luke seeing the battle from the planet's surface. She even suggested killing Obi-Wan, having the Death Star orbiting Yavin during the battle, and having Luke make just one run at the exhaust port rather than two. Ironically, Gorge wanted to cut all humour from the movie, things like the Mouse Droid and "the kiss for luck", because he didn't like people laughing at the movie, but she advised him to keep them in.
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She says that in the making of Star Wars book. Also what’s wrong with any of those scenes.
@@harrythedirty4256 They slow the movie down.
Damnation Alley was supposed to be the big Film of 1977.
That was great, thank you.
I love the final battle in this movie. The space battles Lucas did in later movies has almost too much happening on screen too fast for my old eyes to keep up with.
Damn RIP. Sad she didn’t get to see the impact her work had on society for decades to come.
Oh my god perfect timing going to bed!!! 👏
Discussing special edition's VS theatrical releases, catch Adywans Revisited version. It's a "what the 97 SE should have been". His ESB:RE is outstanding, especially the Hoth Battle is amazing. The only frustrating thing is, he takes ages to finish these versions due to his long list of unlucky life situations.
The 2006 DVD release has all three OG movies unaltered on each disc and as a guy who grew up watching um on TV I love all the scratches pops and whistles it's literally my most prized possession..... SOOOOOO HA Screw you Lucas😂
Actually, it's the second release on DVD that has the theatrical cuts as a bonus features . Those came out in 2006 . The first DVD release was in 2004 and did not include them . Also , the 2006 is a non anamorphic laserdisc transfer from the 1993 laserdisc release of the OT
But they look so bad on there. Its like bad vhs on a dvd... :(@darkempire37
@darkempire37 I stand corrected though the box art is nearly identical so it's an easy mistake. However this is why one should always read the packaging as it clearly states the original Trilogy on the 2006 version and that version is the closest we've ever gotten to what was on Movie Screens all those years ago.
really enjoyed this guys. not a amassive fan of the characters in Rogue One but would love to hear your thoughts on it.
Just imagine if anyone could make a movie like this again! People criticise Lucas however he absolutely nailed it - especially with his investment in ILM & John Williams…
Wow, someone else saw the parallel with 80s Boots cameras?!
As a kid (born in 77) I actually believed that SW was real - that it had happened somewhere at some time. Perhaps channelled? I find that to be a powerful example of how myth is forever true.
Star Wars and Metallica: Both iconic institutions of childhood ruined. Only Iron Maiden endured (with a small blazing hiccup). I guess Slayer and Megadeth didn't self-destruct too much either.
Comics were everything to me back then. Spent more time with pictures than film.
The cultural peak of the West was the 80s. It's been downhill since then. There was a sweet spot for an analogue peak before digital made everything unreal... better but worse.
IMO
It's a myth that Lucas made all of the Imperials English in ANH. If you listen, not only do the Stormtroopers and TIE pilots have American accents, but the Stormtrooper officers (the ones in the black uniforms) all have American accents as well. Lucas even dubbed some of the English Stormtrooper officers (like the one in the detention block) with American accents. It's ESB where Kershner purposely made all the Rebels American and most of the Imperials English. Saying that though, even in ESB a few Imperials still had American accents. The AT-AT walker pilot had an American accent, as did Captain Needa's executive officer and the pit crew chief who reported to Needa that the Falcon had disappeared from the Avenger's scanners. In ROTJ we went back to mixed accents again, with Imperials like the Scout Troopers and the Stormtrooper officer who calls Han "You Rebel scum" being American, as well as all of the Rebel leaders having English accents.
Lucas was and always has been notorious for not being able to direct actors. Even in ANH, he struggled with describing what he wanted to the actors, to the point that he tended to leave everything to do with the actors up to GARY KURTZ! It was Kurtz who dealt most with the actors, whilst Lucas saw to the technical side of things. Whenever Lucas tried to convey what he wanted to the actors, he mostly told them to stick to the script and to do everything "faster and more intense". The actors got so frustrated with Lucas' bad direction that Ford is famous for telling him that "he could write this shit, but he couldn't say it". I think that's the real main reason why Lucas didn't return to make the PT for so long, because by the late 90's no one would argue with the suppose "legend". It certainly wasn't because the tech wasn't there to create places like Coruscant in the 80's!
ruclips.net/video/2wXymtELxlI/видео.html
What versions of the OT would most people want to watch? Well, when the two disk DVD came out with the original versions as the "bonus disks", people were reportedly buying them and chucking the SE disks away!
Boba Fett WASN'T even created when ANH was made, so he certainly wasn't in the original Jabba scene. He was created during the making of ESB. The Boba Fett in the SE of ANH is a member of staff dressed in the outfit.
ruclips.net/video/yYAGvqq5tZs/видео.html
Dave Prowse was excluded from conventions because he supposedly blabbed about Vader being Luke's father before the release of ESB. But in actual fact, it was just a lucky (unlucky?) guess, because when he said so it was in an interview BEFORE Lucas had decided to make him his father, let alone written the scene.
Great Post thanks
I could probably print a stormtrooper custom out for Rob 😂
I’ve just gotten into 3d printing and prop building
Nerd dreams come true
As for the clone lore question regarding the stormtroopers, yes after the prequels it was Lucas’ idea that all stormtroopers in the OT should be clones. Hence why Jango bumped his head on slave 1 in episode 2. That has since retconned by Disney and in the bad batch they show how clones slowly were replaced by recruits from the empire.
Oooh which version of Ep 4 is this?? Would love to watch it in sync with you guys
At 55:00 Han is talking to CGI Jabba so looks like the enhanced edition George created as the final version.
@ oooh now I have to wonder the 97, 2006 or 2011 version
@@MikeyRamone002011
@@MikeyRamone00 they talked about what's available on Disney plus so I'm going to assume whatever version is on there. Probably the newer one?
@ ah the 2011 version then, good to know! Thank you! 🤙
Alex Guiness was born in 1914, Star Wars came out in 1977 makes him about 60ish when the film was made. Ewan McGregor is still only 53.
Also started fact checking this haha. But his point is valid. Ewan at 60 won't look like the actors back then being 60.
Please tell me you have seen 'darth vader in love' from the Peter Serafenowicz show. It's utterly hilarious, especially the way vader keeps saying 'what?'
Boon. All those actors were in Boon. And Minder
I love this movie!
I have the 2004 Special Edition DVD of
the *"STAR WARS"* Trilogy, which is my
preferred version. Not a fan of the 2011
Special Edition Blu-Ray.
*"STAR WARS"* (1977/2004) had the
better CGI Jabba the Hutt (compared
to the 1997 Cut), and "Ben" Kenobi
had the better animal sound (it was
even used in the LEGO *"STAR WARS"*
Video Game) to scare off the Tusken
Raiders.
Though I do wish they kept some of
the earlier elements:
Princess Leia's blaster having
the famous Dirty Harry .44 Magnum
sound (heard in the 1977 Mono mix);
Aunt Beru's original voice (also heard
in the 1977 Mono mix); and the extra
audible line: "He's on your tail!", before
Red Leader was gunned down by Darth
Vader.
Please oh please do at least Empire strikes back as well. It doesn't have to be all the star wars movies, but Empire commentary would be so very sweet. If not its all good
I keep getting reminded the Star Wars is Science Fantasy and not Science Fiction. To me that distinction is quite unimportant because of the amount of people who like both genres and not just one of them. I love Sci-fi but Star Wars is something that I like rather than love. Saying that... Return of the Jedi is my favourite of the three originals and actually one of my favourite movies of all time so I'm elated to hear you both defending it to a degree. I know the Ewoks are silly but at the age I was at the time, that didn't matter. Even now I love the infiltration of the shield generator, the space battles, the Speeder bikes, Luke's story and Vader's redemption.
Speaking about ages. Ralph Macchio now doing Cobra Kai and is older than Pat Morita was for the first Karate Kid. I'm now pretty much the same age as Roy Scheider in Jaws and (Star Wars plug) Max Von Sydow was in The Exorcist. I know Max was in old age makeup but it's still mind-blowing at times.
Fantastic commentaries.
Well it is based off Flash Gordon of course but it really has more in common with Lord of the Rings or King Arthur. The fantasy elements are pretty strong as well as the western elements ECT. So really it's a huge hodge podge of everything. The Lensman books are a pretty big influence as well. I've always liked original Star Trek better myself but it's easy to see the appeal of the original Star Wars films. The Disney stuff can be ignored.
Next Review: Once Upon a Time in the West (1968)
Ah Star Wars. I remember i had taken all my money from chores and bought a small CRTV with a video player and with the help of borrowing my uncles copy’s of the VHS I watched the movie every day for 5 years, probably from age 5 to age 10 no joke it was always on and always playing in the background. I’d watch all three before the end of the night every night well doing other things
Sad
Regarding Star Wars taking all this stuff you've seen before and essentially throwing it in a big pot... I would strongly argue that we hadn't seen The Force. We'd seen crystal balls, magic lamps and magic swords, but not people with an innate magical energy bubbling under the surface inside themselves.
Oh God, look I love Rob (you're alright too Ollie) his videos are fantastic but the story he tells from 08:35 onwards (about that "disastrous" early screening and how the film was then "saved in the edit" mostly by George's then-wife) is complete fiction. The version of the film Lucas's friends saw in that screening was actually edited by the final team of Chew, Hirsch and George and Marcia Lucas and (editing-wise at least) was incredibly close to the final cut. The only differences (editing-wise) were that the cutaways to the Death Star during the 1st act were in a slightly different order and... that's it actually. In fact the film was so far along by that point that both Marcia Lucas and Richard Chew were no longer working on the movie, having both moved on to other projects by that point making Rob's whole story impossible.
Look I know where he's got it from, it's from this godawful RUclips video essay but I'm sorry that thing is a complete work of fiction. They just flat-out lied and made up facts that didn't exist. And I know they lied because I've read their sources, the best one being The Making of Star Wars by J.W. Rinzler, and they ALL tell a completely different narrative to the one presented in the video. The people who were there who've talked about it the years since, like De Palma and Spielberg, have not come out and said that the editing was what broke the movie, that's literally just one RUclipsr lying to you Rob.
Oliver, do Backdraft 1991 - Kurt Russel, Stephen Baldwin
Rob is right the DVD put the widescreen version on a 4:3 format, very ugly
Yes and no. It is in the correct aspect ratio of 2.35:1, but doesn't "stretch" to fully fit the screen of a widescreen tv. You get black borders on all 4 sides. You have to manually zoom in on settings.
Since 1999 I’m very much take it or leave it with Star Wars, if it’s good like Rogue One, The Clone Wars, Rebels, Jedi Survivor, Andor I’ll take it.
If it’s bad like the Prequels, Sequels, Acolyte, Book of Boba Fett I just leave it & move on.
Keep it going
THANK YOU for not calling it A New Hope!
Star Wars? Never heard of it! 😅
Star Wars is still only three films in my book…
I agree (Harmy's Despecialized versions) however, I do like Rogue One
I also agree and avoid all Disney slop. What Harmy did was impressive but Project 4k77 is better since they actually had a real film print to work with. Harmy sadly could only do a kind of Frankenstein job using different sources.
yea Watership Down is PG now had to watch that in school in the 1980s when young now to day they wont show it to the kids in school
Watership Down was stuff of nightmares as a kid..
With regard to Vader being subordinate to Tarkin, I remember reading some Star Wars comic a few years ago (in which Vader is the main character) and apparently Vader respected Tarkin for his cunning and ruthlessness. It is also implied that this is the chain of command the Emperor desires, and with Vader not being as powerful as the Emperor, he had no choice but to accept it, regardless of whether he respected Tarkin or not.
Anyway, this commentary is a nice little Christmas present from Oliver and Rob. Nice one. 😊
Star Wars was made for us Gen X's
Personally i will only ever watch the original unaltered versions before they were messed with, I have the 2 disc DVDs from 2004 that came with the unaltered versions as a bonus
"He spent thousands and thousands of pounds on these helmets and I was so jealous.." This video is full of one liners that should be taken out of context.
A fun watch guys. Thanks for sharing. (Boba Fett WAS in that original Java footage Ollie)
@@stewmurray47 hey Stew I just double checked the original footage with human Jabba and Boba Fett ain’t there mate.
Why would Boba Fett look at the camera like he did? That was total fan service. He’s also in his Return of the Jedi costume which came out six years after this one. And who the hell is Java?
@@OliverHarperI completely stand corrected!! I was positive he was in there! First official appearance (outside of a parade) was that Holiday Special Cartoon I guess
Pity a commentary for this film wasn't ever done with Richard and Duncan. Even with all the damage done by Disney and their DEI slop I still have the urge to warch the original once in awhile. I have the 2011 blu ray but the special editions really bother me so I always turn them off. Harmy did a good job trying to restore the films but his version was a Frankenstein type version with different sources. Then Project 4k77 was available and they actually had an original film print of the movie. As That Damm Fool Idealistic Crusade has talked about in great detail,no home version of the original films have ever been theater accurate,let alone the terrible 2004 bonus discs. Even the Japanese laserdiscs had sound changes,color changes and even a few lines if dialogue added. So seeing 4k77 was a breath of fresh air and is now the only way I watch the film.
People didn't mind the special edition versions until George declared there would never be a release of the original films. because he did not preserve the masters and did not want the originals available. I once spoke to a woman from Lucas film fan relations. My friend introduced me as a fan of Jedi. I told her I don't like jedi, they kidnap slave kids ANF force them into their cult and kill millions of aliens, and cheat to trick people. But that is just in the prequels so I don't love Star Wars made after 1983
That's exactly it. I don't mind that the special versions exist, although even those have been changed like 3 times now. It's the fact that Lucas made the strange decision to try to erase the films as they were from existence. This from a man that in the 70s and 80s talked about how important it is that we preserve film for the history of it. If there was a set like Blade Runner with every version of the film it would be fine. But now it's unlikely we will see the originals. A marketing friend of mine actually brought up the point that even if they could Disney probably would not release the original unaltered versions simply because of the fact that they would sell so massively that they would make everything they have made look bad. It's a very possible idea sadly .
People forget how much the SE releases revitalised Star Wars. It'd been a huge part of my life until the mid-80s but it was just that - a childhood interest. Thought nothing of it until I was about 20 when my friends and I all saw the remasters at the cinema and then started getting invested in the run-up to the prequels.
@@jacobturnerartAt this point I think it would have better if Star Wars hadn't been boosted up again in popularity. It should have just been a nicely done series in the past instead of the endlessly milked abomination that it is now.
@@kellinwinslow1988 I think that George Lucas should have had the opportunity to tell the story he wanted to make. I ignored all of the expanded universe stuff and was only interested in the films. Sadly, Disney did their utmost to make it impossible to enjoy or appreciate Star Wars without consuming absolutely everything they manufactured.
I watched Star Wars for the first time recently, didn’t really think it held up all that well, didn’t enjoy it
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don't forget that if it wasn't for the Omen film doing very well Star Wars wouldn't have been made...
George Lucas is a great ideas man, you take ideas & give them to right team of Filmmakers & storytellers, the results are amazing, when he does it himself, it’s cack because he cannot write a script or direct traffic.
They're also crap when he refuses to take advice from anyone, which was all of the PT.
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Yes, don’t surround him with yes men, surround him with people who will challenge & stand up to him
As in “Indiana Jones and the Haunted Mansion”? 😂 then Spielberg said “ok George, that’s great……”
@@SosiskaTheHorrible Yes, but I believe it was an obsession he had with making the things in the movie aliens. Spielberg didn't want to do more aliens after Close Encounters and ET, but Lucas was insistent. In the end, Lucas gave the impression that he'd changed his mind, and Spielberg was overjoyed. But when he asked what Lucas had decided on, he said that they were aliens from another dimension and Spielberg almost blew a gasket! It was then that he just decided to give up and play along. In the end he was right, the movie did turn out to be a disaster. Lucas was also the one who wanted Indiana to be in the fridge when the nuke went off, because he believed that there was a chance that a person could survive, which is madness!
What an original thought
1:01:05 YES!
lucas deserves credit for making it and he deserves ridicule for unmaking it, and making it worse over the years...
This film is a perfect fluke, combined with a coming together of brilliant individual talent working for the greater whole. Without John Williams, Ben Burtt, the casting of Alec Guiness and Harrison Ford, Ralph McQuarrie's concept art and the SFX team it could have ended up a distinctly average or poor movie. I don't mean George was only lucky but for all the necessary elements to come together at that particular moment in time is quite remarkable. It truly is a once in a lifetime event that the Universe or fate or whatever managed to conspire for reasons unknown.. Like Lennon, McCartney and Harrison meeting as kids at that particular moment in music history and later getting George Martin as their producer. If they hadn't done history would be very different. There's probably some other comparable examples but I can't think of any as big for influencing pop culture in the last 70 odd years.
Lucas obviously wrote the idea based on elements of myths, westerns and fairytales and Flash Gordon with a Nazi's vs Allies vibe thrown in and some pilfering from Kurosawa but his invention of the ambiguous 'Force' was his genuine masterstroke. He later proved this film as the perfect fluke by making the prequels and seemingly misunderstanding the story he wrote and why it and the characters captured the imagination in the first place. If you'd never heard of Star Wars and wanted to know what it was then this film is still the best example of it. For the pure magic of a 6 year old child watching a film about magic and space wizards and laser swords and a princess getting rescued and taking on the bad guys then this is it. It is still my favourite of the trilogy and has the strongest music score and most iconic amount of 'star warsy' moments in one film. Calling this film a cultural behemoth would be an understatement.
I'm so over Star Wars that I don't watch anything related to it anymore. But I will make an exception for you guys. And what you say at the beginning is true; George Lucas is a genius and does deserve more credit than he gets.
The only beef I have with Red Letter Media's criticism of him is that they propagated this idea that he merely lucked into his succes by having better people do all the work. I think that's total BS.. From the info that's out there, he was a bloody good producer and its down to him that the films came out as good as they were. Especially the ones we all agree are great.
Red letter media do give Lucas credit as a genius businessman. However, it’s undeniable that the more artistic control Lucas had the worse the movies came. After Empire, had he just remained a producer and engaged writers and directors, his subsequent movies would have been far better.
@ Aye, the prequels are the product of him having too much say. And I’m not dying on the hill or worshipping at the alter of George Lucas. It’s just there’s those narratives out there that are nonsense and spread unchallenged. Like this notion that Gary Kurtz was the reason the first two films are great when there’s more than enough material out there suggesting it was Lucas who saw Star Wars and Empire over the finish line.
Don’t get me wrong about RedLetterMedia. They had some good criticisms. One thing they turned me around on for example was Yoda fighting. They were right that emphasising his strength over wisdom is antithetical to the philosophy of the Force.
But they made it weirdly personal with Lucas, and while they understand film theory and storytelling, their cynicism is an unfortunate byproduct that’s spread out thru internet culture.
In my opinion. Like I said I don’t bother with anything Star Wars anymore. I only gave this commentary a go ‘cause of who’s involved.
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I miss Ollie and the other two lads
I'm not a huge Star Wars fan but I like the original 3 but its hard to watch them now because of the crazy online drama and Disney milking the hell out of it. I wish Disney and others would just let old stuff die instead of trying to create cinematic universes but I also wish 40 year old guys that should sorting their collection screws in coffee jars would stop complaining online everywhere about how Disney destroyed their childhood.
I completely agree. I grew up with all these franchises and like them of course. But I'm so sick of these constant recycling of the past. I'm over Marvel,Terminator, Predator,Star Wars ECT. And what they have done with things like Star Trek,which I absolutely love the original films,is terrible let alone garbage like Alien Romulus. It's all about tapping into nostalgia now which I try to have none of. It's sad that aside from a few things the current generation really has nothing to call it's own. The shadow of the 1970s and 80s looms so large that it covers everything now and not for the better. Give me something interesting like Upgrade or a lot of anime frankly than most of the DEI filled slop that comes out now.
I maintain bullshit that these are childrens films. The dialogue is so political
"I like George Lucas, but I won't stand for any of shit" or words to that effect 😅
Brilliant! 😊
While superman the movie is my all time favourite ,star wars was hugely influential to me ,as a 1st generation fan this film landed with the impact of a hydrogen bomb,interesting these original films are the only ones my kids watch ,they have zero interest in the the disney sequels
4K edition colors drive me mad 😡! Awful transfer 😢
Dykstra and his effects guys were initially given about one year to do their stuff. Every other Star Wars film had up to three years to work on the storyboards and effects work. To claim that they were screwing up in the 70s cos they were lazy stoners hardly seems like the whole story.
And sorry Oliver. The fans aren't the ones who destroyed Star Wars. It was Disney and not only their DEI garbage but the complete ineptitude of Abrams and Kennedy. It's clear that they had no idea what they were doing with the new films. It was even admitted that they just went with Abrams's stupid mystery box nonsense and didn't plan anything out. Then the complete tearing down of the legacy characters and just basically pissing the well. No one wanted then to screw it up yet they did. And now the brand is so damaged,much like the terrible Abrams and Kurtzman Star Trek,that even if something decent does come out it's too little too late. There will always be certain fans who take things too far. That's always existed. But the inherent flaws are all Disney's fault. Blaming the fans only makes you seem foolish.
Revenge Of The Sith is my favorite.❤❤❤❤❤
You were born late 80s then?
No Early 2000s.
First...second
Prequels aren’t bad, silly Rob.
Yes they are.
@@JackTorrance333Meesa likes em! 😜
@@madcapmakov2 😂
Yeah. While there are parts I like they are not good films. Kind of unwatchable really. It's only because of the total garbage that the DEI communist loving Disney has cranked out that the prequels seem good at all. Much like I have to agree with Mauler that Alien Romulus is so bad it makes Alien 3 look good.
They're for kids, says Rob. That's why it has trade disputes, politics, war, genocide, a guy burning alive and all the good stuff kids love.