BLUE BEETLE Review | A Reminder of Why the DCEU Failed

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  • Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024

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  • @DarkPascual
    @DarkPascual Год назад +84

    I am a Latino, I am a fan of Jaime Reyes' version of the Blue Beetle (I honestly never cared that much for Ted Kord until Countdown to Infinite Crisis) and I think Xolo Maridueña is a good actor and a great choice to be Jaime... and I was utterly uninterested on watch this movie.
    On one hand it was the comments about "Batman is a meanie", on the other it was the fact that the little marketing the move had was about the "celebration of "Latin" culture".
    Note to Hollywood, there is more Latin people than "vaguely Mexicanish", even Cobra Kai had the idea of making Maridueña's character from Ecuador instead of just Mexican.
    And even there, I don't care about having a "celebration of my heritage" on a comic book movie. I just want a kickass comic book movie.

    • @honestabe7373
      @honestabe7373 Год назад +12

      Lol I’m glad you mentioned that. I also like Jaime Reyes version of blue beetle and I am also latino. I saw the movie yesterday and I agree that they view that the majority of the Latin community is just made up by Mexicans. They don’t mention any Dominicans (where I’m from), Colombians, Guatemaltecos, people from Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Peru etc. that in itself with the whole stuff is just racist in itself.

    • @orlandoalessandrini2505
      @orlandoalessandrini2505 Год назад

      To these people, Latino culture is a bunch of Mexicans speaking Spanish.

    • @eanderson9599
      @eanderson9599 Год назад +2

      Miguel being a minority is used for a few pretty funny jokes but he stands as his own as a character. In this film he’s just some generic stereotypical Latino, what a missed opportunity

    • @Shigzmi
      @Shigzmi Год назад

      @@eanderson9599he is definitely not a generic latino, did you even watch the movie

    • @Shigzmi
      @Shigzmi Год назад +2

      People can have different opinions. I was excited to finally see a mexican superhero, and this movie gave me just that and i loved it. Yea sure there wasn’t a lot of representation for other latinos, but what did you want? Every single latino country being represented in one movie???

  • @weldsj8847
    @weldsj8847 Год назад +316

    In another forum, a Latino critic asked rhetorically, "am I supposed to be all excited that there is another Latino on the screen?" He goes on to complain that the characters are all tired, worn, unoriginal tropes and stereo types about Latino people.

    • @funcygames
      @funcygames Год назад +47

      Uh, excuse me. It's Latinx. Someone tell him.

    • @Chino56751
      @Chino56751 Год назад

      Here's some food for thought: Its evidently ok for a movie to focus on Latinos , or Asians , or any other " minority ", but one where Caucasian white is the spotlight ? You'd virtually for certain get DROWNED by accusations of " white supremacy ", " racism " , and " bigotry "
      But, white is a color as well, leftists

    • @Chino56751
      @Chino56751 Год назад +46

      ​@@funcygamesThat's more of an imaginary thing than unicorns

    • @speedycerviche2380
      @speedycerviche2380 Год назад +44

      Yeah. He can afford to go to college but his family who runs a business is broke.
      Of course its lawn care.

    • @Steve_P_B
      @Steve_P_B Год назад +35

      And that's really what is the worst thing about this whole DEI push. It's not about a good representation of people from these backgrounds, it's about tired, negative stereotypes and tropes. It's the absolutely worst kind of racist tokenism and the producers berate you into watching and loving this racist tokenism or else they label you the racists and the bigots.

  • @geonunes10
    @geonunes10 Год назад +81

    The movie makers say a movie about alien technology is an allegory for illegal immigration, hum, who is calling immigrants aliens now?

    • @CainnechEliasson
      @CainnechEliasson Год назад +16

      try "invaders".

    • @speedycerviche2380
      @speedycerviche2380 Год назад +13

      While also implying that the family are in the country illegally.

    • @Werewolf.with.Internet.Access
      @Werewolf.with.Internet.Access Год назад +6

      “They’re not from around here, they look and sound different, we’re kind of scared of them, just like you guys!”

    • @Vigriff
      @Vigriff Год назад +7

      So they're basically being racist without admitting they're racist. Typical.

    • @anotherthing
      @anotherthing Год назад +2

      @@speedycerviche2380 Two of the family members are/were illegal, per the dialog in the movie. The grandmother and Jaime's father. They specifically name those two and only those two, suggesting that George Lopez is legal. It would make sense that George Lopez was legal since they had that automotive repair shop.
      That said, I loved this movie. I have a feeling a lot of the people who aren't going to see it because of reviews like this one are going to see it at a later date and really enjoy it. Especially fans of the Blue Beetle, both Ted Kord and Jaime Reyes. What makes me sad is that I think this movie will flop because of the stupid shit the director said which isn't really that present in the movie itself, in addition to James Gunn saying he was rebooting everything, means we'll never get to see Ted Kord and Booster Gold on the big screen together in a Blue & Gold movie. It's a real shame, because I'm pretty sure they were setting that up in this movie.

  • @joshuavanderrheede4469
    @joshuavanderrheede4469 Год назад +115

    I think one of the more painful things is having the scarab have a voice like Alexa instead of like in Young Justice where he had this alien creature type of voice that the voice actor of Jaime also did. He did both voices amazing and gave off that alien creature AI feel.

    • @yagamifire7861
      @yagamifire7861 Год назад +41

      Young Justice, a cartoon for children, respects its audience intelligence more than a multimillion dollar live action movie

    • @Seoul_Soldier
      @Seoul_Soldier Год назад +29

      @@yagamifire7861 Look at all of the cartoons we grew up with vs the movies that are getting shat out these days. Static Shock handled racial tensions/identity way better than Black Panther. Batman: The Animated Series had more mature themes than every single Batman movie ever. The original Teen Titans cartoon is far more of a complete piece of media than the weird ass live action WB Titans show.

    • @chefjames3361
      @chefjames3361 Год назад +5

      This would have made it even more like Venom than it already was, but I was trying to figure out why the alien sounded like a white lady.

    • @chefjames3361
      @chefjames3361 Год назад +1

      This would have made it even more like Venom than it already was, but I was trying to figure out why the alien sounded like a white lady.

    • @loreseeker6604
      @loreseeker6604 Год назад +9

      ​@NC_Legend you are definitely right look at classic cartoons like gargoyles, that is still one of the best written, animated, and acted stories I have ever seen. David Zanatos is one of the best villains in any medium I have ever seen. Also of course voiced by the iconic Jonathan Frakes.
      Hell the show had so many great characters and villains its insane, demona and Macbeth, Eliza was a great female character....sorry kinda went on a tangent there but basically I will argue that gargoyles is one if the best piece of media ever. Characters have acted sensible to their temperament and all of them had massive journeys of character growth.

  • @cheeseburgersuperior1874
    @cheeseburgersuperior1874 Год назад +45

    "The only good BUG is a dead BUG." - Starship Troopers

    • @elperrodelautumo7511
      @elperrodelautumo7511 Год назад +1

      Johnny Rico. The Argentinian soldier of the Terran Federation. A model soldier of the mobile infantry. Even if the movie series doesn’t align with its source material, it doesn’t make it that bad. And it had more character development than this movies protagonist. At least when his parents were killed by a bug meteor strike that destroyed his home city of Bueno Aires, it changes him. Becoming meat for the grinder. Becoming the grinder of bugs.

  • @tradesmanhelix
    @tradesmanhelix Год назад +97

    DC is its own worst enemy 😣

    • @kalen2465
      @kalen2465 Год назад +9

      Avenger's Endgame really should have been the endgame. Superhero movies have sucked since then. Tv series aren't any better either.

    • @scarecrow730
      @scarecrow730 Год назад +7

      @@kalen2465that’s literally not true 😂😂 how about blame the writers not the the genre

    • @scarecrow730
      @scarecrow730 Год назад

      @@kalen2465and how is a movie that wasn’t made tht good - the ending how was a marvel movie going to end all superhero movies in dc and others u sound mad dumb and u probably think Batman is it marvel

    • @40KWill
      @40KWill Год назад

      Indeed

    • @CerealExperimentsMizuki
      @CerealExperimentsMizuki Год назад +5

      ​@@kalen2465bro never saw Guardians 3 or No Way Home.

  • @alarin612
    @alarin612 Год назад +63

    When I saw the trailer I laughed at the Batman line. Not because it's true, but because it's exactly the sort of tinfoil-hat opinion someone might have about him - especially when today's general understanding of "fascist" is just "thing I don't like."

    • @jaymaddox4181
      @jaymaddox4181 Год назад +17

      The line is actually funny, I think people got mad about it because political messaging has been shoehorned into entertainment so much lately that movie goers are getting hyper sensitive to it and in this case didn’t recognize it to be the joke it was ment to be

    • @alarin612
      @alarin612 Год назад +7

      @@jaymaddox4181 making fun of people for taking exception to it didn't help, either.

    • @speedycerviche2380
      @speedycerviche2380 Год назад +11

      That joke makes no bloody sense. Fighting crime is fascism. You cant even call Bruce that's. Dude puts his life on the line despite his money to help people in a currupt city.
      How does that joke work?
      Confused pikachu face.

    • @alarin612
      @alarin612 Год назад +11

      @@speedycerviche2380 I tried to explain in my comment. It's not funny because it's true - it made me laugh because it's the same sort of stupid, uninformed opinion you hear about real people all the time. I don't know if that was the intent of the joke, but it's why I laughed.

    • @DReppin2009
      @DReppin2009 Год назад +2

      Congratulations, you have a functional brain.

  • @bloodrunsclear
    @bloodrunsclear Год назад +175

    We’ve tried SO HARD not to be seen as racist…everything HAS to be racist by decree. You’re black? You NEED to be a victim. You’re Latino? You NEED to be obsessed with immediate family and you HAVE to be illegal. Stereotypes aren’t just desired in media now, they’re all you can do. It’s bizarre.

    • @1973vanguard
      @1973vanguard Год назад +2

      Guess maybe you should talk to your ancestors about that one homie. not our fault they decided it was a good idea to take land that didnt' belong to them and own slaves. It is what it is. Black Panther was Black because, guess what, Black Panther IS black. The story revolved around black Africans. Iron man was White, with one black main character: RODEY. Black panther had one white main character: Agent Ross. Sooo the question I have is this: It's okay to have an all white cast with one black character, but not the other way around? If @Thorias Unlimited is trying to hide is racism, he's doing a bad job of it.

    • @vladpiranha
      @vladpiranha Год назад

      It's bizarre how being progressive now is all about obsessing over a group identity so much that the only way for someone to fit inside that arbitrary group is to embody a stereotype.

    • @homielander5924
      @homielander5924 Год назад +1

      @@1973vanguardlearn your facts, there have been the most slaves in history by black people. There is still black slaves in africa right now, captured by black people. Go help them instead of crying online that you're a victim when you aren't

    • @bloodrunsclear
      @bloodrunsclear Год назад +1

      @@1973vanguard ‘take land that didn’t belong to them and own slaves’
      So…LITERALLY every human AND animal culture than.
      Including (gasp) non-whites!

    • @dlon9067
      @dlon9067 Год назад +24

      @@1973vanguard Hey, bud, guess what, every single group of people did those things, too. In fact, quite a lot, friend. And many still do on the beautiful continents of Africa and South America. Heck, and Asia, too :) Oh, and the amazing Native Americans did it in North America as well. Both pre and post Columbus. Spoiler alert, they are not YT ;) Your ancestors did it too, homeboy :D Probably quite more than you know. Remember, the 200 some years the US existed is not the sum total of history ;D
      As for your Iron Man comment, I don't remember the media or the movie makers talking about how Iron Man was a celebration of his ethnicity. Or trying to push any kind of politics in it really. It was just a fun movie. That's the difference, buddy ol' pal. But oh well, gosh. Have a nice day, pal.

  • @Artist_Unbound
    @Artist_Unbound Год назад +13

    Glad to see barely anyone's impressed by this DCU bull crap. This is what I've been saying. DCU is a Marvel duplicate, with stupid humor, (dookie/fish jokes), one dimensional villains and doesn't care about DC. Just forcing a bad style. I hope your happy Gunn, DC is gone. Permanently.

    • @als3022
      @als3022 Год назад

      Cept some commenters trying to gaslight us anyways. We got one here too.

  • @Chino56751
    @Chino56751 Год назад +45

    Creativity < Virtue signalling, as much as these movie companies are concerned...

    • @Darth_Lex
      @Darth_Lex Год назад +1

      My thoughts, exactly.

    • @Shigzmi
      @Shigzmi Год назад +1

      It was pretty creative and enjoyable. Some people just want perfection and something that they like without realizing you don’t always get what you want. So shut up and move on

  • @CharlieCookeActor
    @CharlieCookeActor Год назад +44

    There won't be much of a WB left by the time Gunns precious new Superman movie gets to the screen.

    • @israelruiz8706
      @israelruiz8706 Год назад +2

      Wasn't barbie a Warner bros movie.
      They have been having massive flops but I think barbie was a much needed win.
      The ones in true fear is Disney. I don't think they have had a successful movie this year. Up to this point at least

    • @DReppin2009
      @DReppin2009 Год назад +3

      Warner has been making bank everywhere else. It's their DC properties that need work, and it's getting it from James Gunn.

    • @israelruiz8706
      @israelruiz8706 Год назад +1

      @DReppin2009 exactly. At this point the superhero genre is definetly close to dead at least for the mainstream.
      Marvel has run out of steam post endgame. We will most likely have some gems here and there but as far as having a new character comic book movie pulling 500 plus millions is highly unlikely

    • @djguillyd
      @djguillyd Год назад

      @@israelruiz8706I think wish might do good for Disney their upcoming animated movie it kinda gives classic Disney vibes elemental started slow but ended up doing decent at the box office at the end of its run and has been doing great on streaming

  • @JustTooDamnHonest
    @JustTooDamnHonest Год назад +15

    The director really nuked his film career by opening up his mouth and just to point this out there was already a popular hispanic hero out there called Zorro and that character was one of several inspirations that lead to the creation of Bruce Wayne/Batman and Batman is the face of DC(Detective Comics) and so in truth every DC hero including Blue Beetle owes everything to the Dark Knight and the Dark Knight owns his creation to the real first hispanic vigilante/superhero(Zorro himself).

  • @jazzosazzo4279
    @jazzosazzo4279 Год назад +23

    Thorias, I really enjoy your content, and I would of thought you would be at 100k+ ages ago. You seem genuine, honest and entertaining. All the best going forward, keep it up

  • @MrDman21
    @MrDman21 Год назад +14

    Meanwhile El Dorado is saying "where's my fucking movie pendejos?"

  • @thefanwithoutaface8105
    @thefanwithoutaface8105 Год назад +58

    Shame cause this almost seemed like a slam dunk. Blue Beetle is a fun character that was getting a lot of attention and casting Miguel from Cobra Kai as the titular character is pretty rock solid casting. Shame the final product can't stick the landing cause can't make a movie about a Latino Super Hero without Representation, Racism and other crap being mentioned at nauseum.

    • @alarin612
      @alarin612 Год назад +8

      Yeah. The character is basically Spider-Man+ Iron Man, with some Green Lantern sprinkled on top. So much fun potential.

    • @greedyyawgoo5635
      @greedyyawgoo5635 Год назад +2

      @@alarin612dont forget shazam family…

    • @speedycerviche2380
      @speedycerviche2380 Год назад +1

      ​@@greedyyawgoo5635barf. They couldn't have made a worse move.. Kid gets superpowers, shows instantly that he isn't worthy and gives them to people he barely knows because, family.

    • @vexvega5225
      @vexvega5225 Год назад +1

      Blue beetle was best in Injustice 2 in my opinion, the one n the movie is far removed from that

    • @sincitty3323
      @sincitty3323 Год назад +1

      @thefanwithoutaface8105 yeah, I like all the Blue Beetles. It would’ve been cool to see all of them. It also would’ve been cool to see the movie take place in El Paso, Texas. It also would’ve been cool to see Paco, Brenda, Traci Thirteen, The Reach, Booster Gold, La Dama, and Danielle Garrett, instead of that stupid OC Jenny.
      The sad part is, I bet some idiot who worked on the movie(writer or producer, doesn't matter) is probably going on a Power trip about how great the story is, how it's a love letter to the comic character. When all this movie has done is cause people to really hate the character.
      Just wonderful, it's shitty productions like this that caused everyone never want to see a Batman movie with Robin in it, caused everyone to see the Fantastic Four as a joke, and now it's going to happen to BB too. Well, at least Animation did some cool stuff with these characters.
      I just hope they don't ever make a Metamorpho movie now.🙏🙏🙏

  • @CthulhuChow
    @CthulhuChow Год назад +14

    all of this "family" bs makes me think of the trash and the furious.

    • @Shigzmi
      @Shigzmi Год назад

      We get it you didnt have a loving family

    • @CthulhuChow
      @CthulhuChow Год назад

      @@Shigzmi oh i have the greatest family. a nuclear White family.

  • @paballomolata8844
    @paballomolata8844 Год назад +18

    Another one bites the dust😂

  • @francoiseeduard303
    @francoiseeduard303 Год назад +16

    “A love letter to Latinos”, I’m “Latino” and that is a bad thing from them.
    Xolo said stupid 💩, such as his “People who have their Batman shrines at home can keep them.” crack at fans among others.

    • @SplitCell202
      @SplitCell202 Год назад +12

      If I remember right he also said something about publicity such as "we really want to bring you guys this movie but because of the strike we have to stay in the right side of history." I'm like dude what right side. What are you talking about?

    • @francoiseeduard303
      @francoiseeduard303 Год назад

      @SplitCell202 The origin of that term is communist.

  • @jonasthemovie
    @jonasthemovie Год назад +11

    Casting George Lopez is all I need to know about this movie.

  • @muddhutter
    @muddhutter Год назад +5

    I will not be paying good money to watch this movie. WTF? Another generic movie with the usual tropes, it seems. When they advertise the movie as been woke. That tells me there is nothing original or innovative about this cinematic effort.

  • @pedanticperson1149
    @pedanticperson1149 Год назад +16

    Re: The comparison between the Scarab & Venom - Unfortunately that's the dynamic between them, from what I remember at least (Young Justice), it was always wanting to eliminate any potential threat in extreme ways. Don't think I'll be bothering with this one, the DCU was a lost cause almost from the start & I doubt the rebooting will save it.

  • @Brandon-jf2dw
    @Brandon-jf2dw Год назад +6

    All the Shills on Reddit in the DC forums are praising this movie to high heaven. Boy has the bar of quality reached a new low

    • @Shigzmi
      @Shigzmi Год назад

      What exactly was wrong with the movie ?

  • @stalnoyvolk3511
    @stalnoyvolk3511 Год назад +10

    Dollar Store Guyver

  • @robinthrush9672
    @robinthrush9672 Год назад +80

    The irony that it would be nice to have a new hero that has a different cultural background and it gets undermined by making it _just_ about that difference.

    • @suzygirl1843
      @suzygirl1843 Год назад +3

      Did you even watch this movie? It's not about their identity. It's about family, Same as Fast and the Furious

    • @robinthrush9672
      @robinthrush9672 Год назад +1

      @@suzygirl1843 I haven't; I'm going off of Thorias's description (and another I heard). Not that F&F is exactly selling me on anything with it's memes. Barely finished the first one when it actually had a point.

    • @anotherthing
      @anotherthing Год назад +5

      @@robinthrush9672 I saw it yesterday. I don't get the negative reviews. Half of the negative reviews I've seen are way off base. This is definitely one of the better DCEU movies. Of course, there's still things the had to do because Jack Schneider screwed up the DCEU when he was in charge. For example, the OMACs are being made by Kord Industries instead of LexCorp, but do we really want Jessie Eisenberg back to introduce the OMACs? Probably not.
      There's a LOT of Ted Kord stuff in this even though a lot fo reviews seem to make it seem like they're making Jaime be the first Blue Beetle. You get to see Ted Kord's lair, complete with comic accurate Ted Kord Blue Beetle suit as well as the Dan Garrett suit. The opening credits are news articles about Dan Garrett and Ted Kord. And yes, George Lopez does fly The Bug, Ted Kord's beetle shaped vehicle, having never seen the vehicle before.
      The claim that this isn't comic accurate that Thorias Unlimited says is completely wrong. This movie is almost like a love letter to DC Blue Beetle fans. There's a whole lot of things that comic fans will notice in this movie.
      Honestly, as a Ted Kord Blue Beetle fan, particularly him with Booster Gold in the Blue & Gold as well as Justice League International, I absolutely loved this movie. I regret nothing in seeing it. I actually want to see it again in the theater.

    • @Shigzmi
      @Shigzmi Год назад +1

      @@robinthrush9672just watched this movie and as a latino man, i enjoyed every bit of this movie. Nothing really wrong with it, just online redpilled incel losers bashing it

    • @robinthrush9672
      @robinthrush9672 Год назад +1

      @@Shigzmi You totally sold me by ending the comment with insulting everyone who disagrees with your assessment.

  • @danieldb631
    @danieldb631 Год назад +8

    I wonder if anyone's gone to the Director's twitter and thanked him for steering them away from this movie and saving them some money. Something like, "Thank you for helping me dodge a bullet. If it weren't for you, I would have wasted my money on a movie ticket to this thing. That was very helpful. Well...looks like my job is done."

  • @juansolis4796
    @juansolis4796 Год назад +21

    They can´t talk about the movie because of the strike. The only one who could was the director.

  • @ernoristola9346
    @ernoristola9346 Год назад +14

    Modern film makers have forgotten one thing:
    When you stir the plot all the time (ie. railroad it) it never thickens.

  • @Mordeairayne
    @Mordeairayne Год назад +20

    "Batman's a fascist" You can't make this shit up.

    • @KardboardKenny
      @KardboardKenny Год назад +7

      but his fans are capitalist, hence the doa box office...lol

    • @CainnechEliasson
      @CainnechEliasson Год назад +2

      @@ILoveMonorails96 illegal immigrants? try invaders", you know what they really are.

    • @osets2117
      @osets2117 Год назад +1

      ​@@ILoveMonorails96that implies they also don't have standards and I'm sure illegals have a few

    • @Werewolf.with.Internet.Access
      @Werewolf.with.Internet.Access Год назад

      @@ILoveMonorails96
      As a child of immigrants, no. To all of this. Not a lot of us get “government money” and those who do don’t get a lot. Maybe enough for food.
      Also yeah, we know when we’re being pandered to by things like this movie. We find it insulting and disrespectful, just like you would.

    • @shadowking9739
      @shadowking9739 Год назад +1

      Because insulting arguably your biggest cash-cow character and pissing off both comic book fans and the general film-going public makes a lot of sense.

  • @Barot8
    @Barot8 Год назад +6

    Zaslav did the same thing with Batgirl. Originally created for Max as a show, but after watching dailies, he decides it'd be better as a movie. Movie is mostly completed and then canceled. Blue Beetle had the exact same origins except for the cancellation. Anytime the movie starts promoting itself as being a cultural representation and ignoring anything about the story you know the movie is in trouble. Also, how was the budget so high? Another CG fest ending? I suspect so. Looking at the trailer it seems closer to a CW show. That's a real shame. Ted Kord was a fun and smart Blue Beetle, almost as smart as Bruce Wayne. It could have introduced Booster Gold and Guy Gardner in a cameo at a bar too. The family issue sounds like it's lifted from both Shazam movies.

  • @westfield90
    @westfield90 Год назад +8

    I had zero desire to watch this once the idiotic director made those arrogant statements.

  • @briangoubeaux5360
    @briangoubeaux5360 Год назад +5

    I think the Palmera City is a DC trope of a city in the DC Universe like how we have Superman living in Metropolis instead of New York City. Otherwise, you're right. The plot does sound lazy.

  • @dirtsquid6995
    @dirtsquid6995 Год назад +19

    5:01 In all fairness, the scarab in the comics as well as most cartoon adaptations is similar to venom in terms of the it wants to kill but the host doesn’t aspect. It’s not really a ripoff, it’s just a coincidence. And a comic-accurate one at that.

    • @thoriasunlimited4053
      @thoriasunlimited4053  Год назад +4

      I didn't say it was a ripoff. The problem is Venom did it in the movies first. And I can't stand the Venom movies; I'm just calling this like I see it. It was up to them to find a way of presenting this dynamic that would feel unique to the Blue Beetle and they didn't.

    • @dirtsquid6995
      @dirtsquid6995 Год назад +3

      @@thoriasunlimited4053 I get what you’re saying, but I fail to see how they could present that dynamic in a way that is faithful to the comics while making it unique and not “copying” the Venom movie. It would be the same case with you probably having the same criticism of a character like Firestorm being accurately represented. Firestorm has the same general vibe of that type of dynamic with a voice in his head. I don’t doubt that the movie is lazy in all the other aspects you described, but I don’t think nitpicking one of the few good areas of a comic book character adaptation that actually got the characterization right based on it being too similar to an adaptation of a character with a similar shtick is fair criticism.

  • @pixiedust_md
    @pixiedust_md Год назад +19

    I’m double Latina (born and raised in Venezuela, naturalized Mexican) an my favorite part of the movie is how they call “representation” just throwing the most stereotypical and shallow Mexican and pocho tropes I have ever seen, as a Venezuelan, as a Mexican, as a comic book movie fan and as a person I was completely offended. I feel so bad for Xolo.

    • @daChief-khalife
      @daChief-khalife Год назад

      This film was about me too movement

    • @Hans-andersen
      @Hans-andersen Год назад

      Poncho? I didn't see a poncho scene in the movie

    • @Shigzmi
      @Shigzmi Год назад

      And i’m a Mexican-American who’s indigenous and i thought this movie was great without any real stereotypes or tropes because if you arent latino or mexican you wouldn’t even get it to begin with. Not only that but I’m glad xolo was in this movie and hope nothing for the best for him. Also what tropes are you even talking about? That some of the family are immigrants? As if that isnt the reality, its not like they made jokes about chanclas or some shit

    • @NewVideoseeker
      @NewVideoseeker Год назад +3

      @@Shigzmi The problem isn't the "stereotypes" (that nowadays people seek and watch everywhere) because many people don't care and we laugh about ourselves very much, but the way they try to introduce political messaging into everything even though is subtle, and no, I wasn't craving for a Latino hero.

    • @Shigzmi
      @Shigzmi Год назад

      @@NewVideoseeker i was, i wanted one and i got one and now I’m happy. Also political writing has been in everything nowadays, literally forever. So i don’t get that point

  • @jayblake682
    @jayblake682 Год назад +9

    You would think at some point, these writers, directors, producers, actors, etc. would learn to stop with the whole messaging thing.

    • @Shigzmi
      @Shigzmi Год назад +1

      What messaging thing? The message about family? Why

  • @chazzitz-wh4ly
    @chazzitz-wh4ly Год назад +8

    The DCEU is painfully decades behind and every release just reminds us how they’re trying to catch up and grab the same lightning Disney had.

  • @ZackTheThunderking
    @ZackTheThunderking Год назад +22

    thankfully the animated shows and animated movies do Jaime Reyes more justice

    • @markfoshee4768
      @markfoshee4768 Год назад

      Has blue beetle been in an animated movie?

    • @MrDman21
      @MrDman21 Год назад

      DC animated always does it better than these shitty movies.

    • @ZackTheThunderking
      @ZackTheThunderking Год назад

      he's in a couple of animated movies @@markfoshee4768

    • @critica77y77
      @critica77y77 Год назад

      @@markfoshee4768 Yes, he was in Teen Titans: The Judas Contract.

    • @markfoshee4768
      @markfoshee4768 Год назад

      @critica77y77 oh yeah. He was in justice league vs teen titans to. I forgot about those 2

  • @bruisedhelmet8819
    @bruisedhelmet8819 Год назад +10

    Ah, so the movie we got is what they advertised, hell it sounds like it was even worse. Awesome.

  • @cheeseburgersuperior1874
    @cheeseburgersuperior1874 Год назад +7

    it's sad that the original blue beetle is a cross between shelock holmes and tony stark. so it's more on mystery with sci fi actions against evil mad criminal scientists.

  • @MrDman21
    @MrDman21 Год назад +11

    Blue Beetle, at least it's not Blue Balls. 😄

    • @mlongpre100
      @mlongpre100 Год назад +5

      you get enough of that in your private life

    • @MrDman21
      @MrDman21 Год назад +2

      @@mlongpre100 yep

  • @bryanhallman8183
    @bryanhallman8183 Год назад +10

    At least we get one more season of Cobra Kai. It's a shame that Xolo got so little to work with.

    • @elperrodelautumo7511
      @elperrodelautumo7511 Год назад

      Starship troopers Johnny Rico had an arc. He went from rich boy with little purpose of life. Almost quitting the mobile infantry training only to witness the destruction of his home city of Bueno Aires and thus his parents deaths turns his life around. Having no one lose to lose. He rejoins the infantry and tastes combat against bugs and thus with luck, he gains rank in the infantry. Even becoming like his teacher/ military commander. Serious and no nonsense.

    • @bryanhallman8183
      @bryanhallman8183 Год назад

      @@elperrodelautumo7511 Are you talking about the movie, or the book? The 2 were quite different.

  • @mar10ssj1
    @mar10ssj1 Год назад +3

    Basically this movie is saying that if your not latino you're not going to enjoy the movie. So people that weren't latino made a hard pass. Understandably. Movies shouldn't antagonize the very audience they wish to attract. They should have market this movie to everyone. Not just latinos.

  • @craigbolton2231
    @craigbolton2231 Год назад +13

    If you told me 10 years ago we were getting a blue beatle film i would have been hyped. Love blue beatle. Dont know if i can even bring myself to watch this

    • @Shigzmi
      @Shigzmi Год назад +1

      Cool don’t, it was a great movie

    • @craigbolton2231
      @craigbolton2231 Год назад

      @Shigzmi well that's me sold, must be amazing. What was your favourite part

    • @wicked1476
      @wicked1476 Год назад

      Trust me this guy is 100% a hater. Do your self a favor Watch the movie and make your own opinion. You can thank me later.
      It was by far the best DC movie in a very long time. The "Batman is a facist" line is 100% a joke. It so happens it made a big impact in the lifes of over emotional beta snowflakes.

    • @jasonaquino3906
      @jasonaquino3906 Год назад +1

      It was a good movie this guy just seems bitter

    • @craigbolton2231
      @craigbolton2231 Год назад

      I watched. It was shit. Not as shit as I expected, but shit none the less. The only good thing was the actors, and the occasional decent practical effect.

  • @cheeseburgersuperior1874
    @cheeseburgersuperior1874 Год назад +4

    ah yes because a LATINX family would work.

  • @namelesswhocares8648
    @namelesswhocares8648 Год назад +11

    Thanks to your reviews i only saw 3 movies this summer
    Sound of freedom
    Mission impossible
    Oppenheimer
    Money well spent

  • @timinou9915
    @timinou9915 Год назад +10

    I guess I'll stick to YJ season 2 for a good Blue Beatle movie 🥴

    • @thoriasunlimited4053
      @thoriasunlimited4053  Год назад +2

      YJ season 2 was my main exposure to Blue Beetle. Really enjoyed him in that story. Wish the movie had been more like that.

    • @timinou9915
      @timinou9915 Год назад

      @@thoriasunlimited4053 same , never heard of him before YJ 😹 The only sad part about it is they kinda disrespect the OG Blue Beetle a bit by barely mentioning him after he die. I still like the character, but I could understand some people from finding it distasteful.

  • @ASilvaProduction
    @ASilvaProduction Год назад +3

    As a Latino they lost my interest, I like good stories I don't need the "Message"

  • @patrickjennings431
    @patrickjennings431 Год назад +4

    When you make a movie about representation and try to lecture us about illegal immigration and colonialism then no shit It's gonna suck because we watch movies for entertainment not to get lectured about real world political stuff

  • @thatonkgau5221
    @thatonkgau5221 Год назад +2

    In the newer comics the scarabs A.I Keshida is very violent and when Jaimes friend finds out he's secret the scarab kills him. The movie could've been better if they put that in the story, Jaime gets the scarab and can't control it and Keshida ends up killing his friend Paco. Jaime afraid of hurting his other friends and family leaves home to learn how to control the suit. He ends up using it to protect the city and when he has the chance to remove it he decides to keep it. Giving up his normal life with his family to be a hero.

  • @cosmicbreath
    @cosmicbreath Год назад +2

    THANK YOU. Now the Jaime Reyes Blue Beetle comics are my FAVORITE ONES. But this movie wasn't Jaime's movie. It was the director's movie that he used Jaime as a TOOL to deliver his own badly-integrated messages. The director should've just made his own movie instead of propagating Blue Beetle as a tool for his own devices.

  • @afroahmed3989
    @afroahmed3989 Год назад +5

    the granny with the Gatling gun scene, when she told him that's a story for another time , it's some kinda wink wink joke cause the actress playing the granny is in fact Elpidia Carillo AKA Anna from the original Predator movie , so it was like a " if you know you know " kinda moment

  • @grandarkfang_1482
    @grandarkfang_1482 Год назад +6

    I just wanna 🪨

  • @franklopez5997
    @franklopez5997 Год назад +2

    As a Latino i can tell you not all of us latinos are mexicans yelling ABUELITA LA CHANCLA and listening to the low raider song...smh awful movie

  • @rodddxlprime3153
    @rodddxlprime3153 Год назад +2

    These psychopaths think that by ham handedly throwing in a divisive woke issue, it somehow elevates their entertainment product to, air fingers quote, "art".

  • @vexvega5225
    @vexvega5225 Год назад +2

    Love how our Latino/Hispanic representation from Hollywood now are sterotypes and slurs at us, which is from a Latino, George Lopez... no care shown from creating this movie

  • @stephenc2527
    @stephenc2527 Год назад +3

    Smallville did it better, plus it had the perfect Booster Gold.

  • @GOBIAS.INDUSTRIES.
    @GOBIAS.INDUSTRIES. Год назад +2

    El Paso is the closest you'll find to a fully Latino city in the entire universe 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @BruceParrello
    @BruceParrello Год назад +2

    It sounds like the writers were trying to capture the feel of Batwoman, but for a different minority group.

  • @jdraven0890
    @jdraven0890 Год назад +3

    I live in El Paso, Texas and the irony is that it IS a city of Latinos, like 85 percent. So I'm really not sure what they were on about with that statement.

    • @inkermoy
      @inkermoy Год назад

      Being American is apparently not the "true" Latino experience.

  • @barryon8706
    @barryon8706 Год назад +2

    I've held up Blue Beetle as one of the few race-swaps that worked. But I guess I can't do that any more.

  • @kbakerde
    @kbakerde Год назад +5

    I haven’t seen the movie. No plans to, but I will say my 17 year old saw it and did enjoy it. Doesn’t seem like it is as offensively dumb and ham handed as Capt Marvel, Ms Marvel, The Marvels was, is and will be.

    • @tamaritamarileonardo394
      @tamaritamarileonardo394 Год назад +2

      dude you haven't even seen the marvels you are already judging a film that hasn't come out yet.

    • @osets2117
      @osets2117 Год назад

      ​@@tamaritamarileonardo394pattern recognition, everything they've done since end game, other than guardians of the galaxy 3, has been crap.

    • @Sonmmmxuan
      @Sonmmmxuan Год назад

      @@osets2117 Shang Chi and nwh were good

  • @rickwj324
    @rickwj324 Год назад +2

    This sounds like it should've been on the CW. No thanks.

  • @teux01
    @teux01 Год назад +2

    What a shame. The comic book character is actually pretty good. Yet another WB/DC failure.

  • @LuckySTR8
    @LuckySTR8 Год назад +3

    I'm Latino and this doesn't appeal to me, guess what my favorite hero is Batman and I guess James gunn passing notes to copy marvel wasn't the best play

    • @ghidorah15
      @ghidorah15 7 месяцев назад

      James Gunn had nothing to do with this movie.

  • @Thespokenone
    @Thespokenone Год назад +3

    What would've been a better version of the movie was if it focused on the relationship between Jaime and the scarab, maybe even have the scarab kill someone whilst it's controlling him, which jepordises the link/connection between the two and how they eventually have a good symbiotic relationship.

    • @Shigzmi
      @Shigzmi Год назад +1

      It was still a good movie, and its not like they cant do that in the sequel

  • @hereb4theend
    @hereb4theend Год назад +2

    I don't get this whole "Latino" thing. Are they implying that there's no difference between someone from Peru and Columbia because they're all the same?? Pandering isn't storytelling.

    • @Werewolf.with.Internet.Access
      @Werewolf.with.Internet.Access Год назад +2

      That’s exactly what it is. In Hollywood, “Latino” = “any brown person that speaks Spanish”

  • @kpsk8031
    @kpsk8031 Год назад +2

    Warner Brothers support Miller and Heard, two of the most despicable creatures in the movie business. WB deserve to go bankrupt.

  • @chefjames3361
    @chefjames3361 Год назад +1

    This movie was Black Panther if Black Panther was full of... more stereotypes.

  • @Darth_Lex
    @Darth_Lex Год назад +4

    You know the movie or show sucks when all they talk about is the inclusive and diverse cast.

    • @Shigzmi
      @Shigzmi Год назад

      You know someone’s opinion sucks when the only thing they focus on is the stuff that makes them upset because ohhh no a group of marginalized people are being represented for once 😢

    • @Darth_Lex
      @Darth_Lex Год назад +1

      @@Shigzmi So stunning, so brave.

  • @azariahgarcia8958
    @azariahgarcia8958 Год назад +6

    I e remember once upon a time ago that there was plans for a booster gold blue beetle movie. Which would’ve been a buddy cop time travel type of story…,honestly with the reboot coming up, I think that would’ve been more plausible and enjoyable to see than this and the flash combined

  • @joseramos-kv4pk
    @joseramos-kv4pk Год назад +1

    aS A lATION THIS FILM IS KINDA...
    Ofensive
    This film is more xenophobic and racist than portraiting latinos.

  • @workingman9019
    @workingman9019 Год назад +3

    Don't get me started on that first fight scene! oh god! Jaime keeps lowering his guard after he thinks he won the fight, and the scarab keeps saying you need to kill him. But jaime won't? This guy is going to kill you and your family. If not kill him, take him to the cops or something!!! He stands there and gets knocked out with one punch! (also jaime has regen powers) So george lopez has to launch a generator at the villain. AHHHHHH! WHAT AM I WATCHING?!

    • @Shigzmi
      @Shigzmi Год назад

      He’s learning ?

  • @WillFredward7167
    @WillFredward7167 Год назад +1

    So, it’s so predictable, derivative, lazy shallow, and built on coincidence… that they actually had NOTHING worth talking about.
    So… all the interviews were blathering about race and performative diversity… because they genuinely had nothing else to talk about… WOW

  • @billypratt4201
    @billypratt4201 Год назад +2

    Dung Beetle.............LOL

  • @Jfreek5050
    @Jfreek5050 Год назад +1

    DCAU films and even the shows are leaps and bounds better than these supposedly incredibly expensive live action flops. Yes I'm including the more recent ones.

  • @BigDaddyJinx
    @BigDaddyJinx Год назад +2

    Beyond all the other obvious reasons this movie was gonna bomb, the fact it's a D-Lister that no one asked for would've been enough on its own. Example, the new Spider-Verse movie using The Spot as the main antagonist. Of all the rogues in Spidey's gallery they chose a D-Lister like The Spot? REALLY?? Although TECHNICALLY you could argue Spider-Man 2099 was the real antagonist, but that's another story.
    I feel bad for Xolo because I think overall he's a likeable and decent enough actor (saw him only in Cobra Kai) and his agent should be fired for even suggesting that he pursue this role.

    • @Shigzmi
      @Shigzmi Год назад

      It was a good movie and he did great

  • @lowellhouser7731
    @lowellhouser7731 Год назад +1

    Hate to say it, but Jaime's Blue Beetle was ALWAYS about being Latino. The difference is that Geof Johns did it better.

  • @wrecktitudemedia6514
    @wrecktitudemedia6514 Год назад +11

    Ty Thorias, I wish the rest of the world appreciated your reviews as much as I do. Cheers!

  • @alexkaen1701
    @alexkaen1701 Год назад +1

    This was a superhero movie with a protagonist whose powers randomly turn on and off, totally at the whim of the plot. From the beginning, they steal a scene from Shang Chi to have him cut a bus in half. This makes no sense at all, as his suit has just been shown to be able to fly around at extreme speeds, and yet now it decides to use a power which is never brought out again.
    Then, in the final action scene, he's running from an explosion and jumping out over a cliff, to be caught by another character and pulled to safety. BLUE BEETLE CAN FLY! The first thing he does is fly into orbit, yet now he can't manage a ten foot leap!

  • @sometimesfriendly9839
    @sometimesfriendly9839 Год назад +1

    This movie probably got a theater run as makeup for canceling Batgirl.

  • @jtmopar2498
    @jtmopar2498 10 месяцев назад +1

    The biggest strain of credulity in this movie, more than an alien beetle suit, is that a young man with a 4 year law degree can't get a decent job. They could have fixed one of the biggest plot holes in this movie if Jaime had gotten a job as a law/file clerk at Korg Industries and was working late one night, and bam! bad stuff happens. But I guess it's harder being a Latino in America than it is fighting bad guys.

  • @fionnaitsradag5152
    @fionnaitsradag5152 Год назад +1

    "Taco taco taco! Salsa! Taco! Illegal immigration! Some sort of Marxist revolutionary granny! Tacos!" Stereotypes are good now. Yay!😅

  • @BNuts
    @BNuts Год назад +2

    Sounds like this movie can be summarized by the phrase:
    "It was super-easy, barely an inconvenience."
    Doesn't sound very creative either. Shame, when this is a movie where the hero's power is based on what he can imagine, and how creative he can be, right?

  • @McRakns
    @McRakns Год назад +3

    If you have to listen to someone ranting about anything, no one does it better than this guy

  • @sosaalexis48
    @sosaalexis48 Год назад +1

    Something I find funny is that, nowadays, whenever Hollywood says "Its a love letter to latino culture!"
    They just mean Mexico
    Like... You know there are more latino countries, right?
    Since you want diversity and representation, why dont you include other latino countries at least?
    Like, I know there is the joke about how people from the USA think that, below them, there is only Mexico... But its not supposed to be real Hollywood...

  • @kreese-yi2nb
    @kreese-yi2nb Год назад +1

    DC promised family entertainment with this movie and it was exactly what they delivered - story of a family entertaining itself in some peculiar ways.
    Eat dirt, audience.

  • @gliscaradu1424
    @gliscaradu1424 Год назад +2

    Hol'up, anyone think the movie is made by ai?

  • @Thespokenone
    @Thespokenone Год назад +1

    Just got back from watching it and, for me it scratches that "it's so bad it's funny" itch that I haven't hit in a long while.

  • @kellymays5138
    @kellymays5138 Год назад +1

    That's one out of two movies I will be skipping, the next one is the Marvels.

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka Год назад +5

    Technically the scarab kanji da also did the exact same thing in the comics so that’s not stealing from venom.

    • @davids2427
      @davids2427 Год назад +2

      Valid point indeed 👌

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka Год назад +3

      @@davids2427 thank you :)

    • @thoriasunlimited4053
      @thoriasunlimited4053  Год назад +1

      I'm not saying it was stealing, but Venom did do it in a movie first, so it was on them to present it in a way that felt unique to Blue Beetle and they didn't.

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka Год назад +1

      @@thoriasunlimited4053ah gotcha

  • @Quast
    @Quast Год назад +1

    I was with a friend at the movie... I can't remember having seen anything in the cinema that lacked any original spark in EVERY scene until the last minute like this movie did ever before!
    And I doubt any ethnic latino would ever feel flattered considering this family thinks cacti are the ideal garden plant even though the grass in their garden was probably greener than the one in Ireland...
    I think this is the MOST uncreative movie I've ever seen... it's like someone spliced many movies of the last 20years into segments then changed persons and locations and spliced it back into one movie and just looked for when what has to happen to keep a story structure.

  • @scotthirschausen177
    @scotthirschausen177 Год назад +2

    blue beetle? more like blue waffle

  • @marcelgardner8497
    @marcelgardner8497 Год назад +1

    If the main character was abducted by aliens and had to compete in some sort of crazy intergalactic ninja warrior contest and by being the winner earns the right to the blue bettle armor would been interesting. Granted i never read the comic so I have no idea what happens there but do something that isn't the stale formula that is years past its expiration date.
    I mean literally anything.

  • @rickimahabir
    @rickimahabir Год назад +1

    In all these superhero movies the hero and villain have the same powers. Time to change things up. Black Panther = Killmonger, Ant Man = Yellow Jacket and the list goes on.

  • @boyscout7277
    @boyscout7277 Год назад +1

    Regardless of diversity the brand is damaged. DC has long since been dead.

  • @DEATH-THE-GOAT
    @DEATH-THE-GOAT Год назад +4

    Comment 😃👍

  • @danw4490
    @danw4490 Год назад +2

    I hated this film. I'm fine with a latino hero. That's cool. But the film needs a good character who's interesting. I hate when a main plot point is the hero being a dufus who doesn't know how to use his powers and who just wants to get rid of them. I have many more complaints, but it's not worth listing them. The film isn't worth it.

    • @AndrewKeyz
      @AndrewKeyz Год назад

      Indeed the suit on auto pilot would have made better decisions than the superhero. He convinces the suit not to kill baddies who then cause his father to have a heart attack. The grandma has a higher kill count. The family doing everything that the story needs but supposedly cannot afford to keep their home is insane. The sister saying "I'm going to take a big old dump" is pathetic.

    • @honestabe7373
      @honestabe7373 Год назад

      I honestly believe the movie was pretty mid. Not trash not great but alright.

  • @TheCarterKent
    @TheCarterKent Год назад +4

    My sympathies are reserved for Xolo. A good actor with good range and instincts. But when the writers write the part as a bland brick, Xolo can do an excellent brick, but it's still just a brick. I weep at such squandering of Xolo's talent.

    • @thoriasunlimited4053
      @thoriasunlimited4053  Год назад +3

      Like I said, I'm cool with it if they want to keep Xolo around and give him another shot. Just give the dude a better movie next time.

    • @TheCarterKent
      @TheCarterKent Год назад

      @@thoriasunlimited4053 Give him the Flash position...I seem to have heard it's open (hahaha).

    • @honestabe7373
      @honestabe7373 Год назад

      I really like Xolo. He is a good actor has lots of more potential.

    • @elperrodelautumo7511
      @elperrodelautumo7511 Год назад

      I wish that Xolo would go Jenna Ortega if the next writers he works with are too focused on something else instead of making a character well written

    • @Dragblacker
      @Dragblacker Год назад

      @@elperrodelautumo7511 I dunno... he seems busy making 90s-style throwback raps about "the need for representation".

  • @LaCokaNostra81
    @LaCokaNostra81 Год назад +6

    Batman vs.Superman should have been a billion-dollar movie

  • @tylermckinney2041
    @tylermckinney2041 Год назад +1

    Imagine if Jamie killed someone in his first fight and had to deal with that realistically.

  • @workingman9019
    @workingman9019 Год назад +1

    THIS MOVIE WAS THE WORST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN! IT SCARED ME MENTALLY!!! NO JOKE!