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Ng3+, g3 Rf6 and now is mate unstoppable with any move from white coming too late to stop Rh6+. White can play f4 and block with Bh5, but that only delays by 1 move, or Qe4 (threatening Qh4 which would be protected by g3, therefore forcing >) fxe4, Bh5 to delay by 2 moves. There is no guaranteed smothered mate with Nf2, as some comments suggest, as white can simply exchange rook and knight and get their queen into the action.
Mate is not unstoppable. I mean not for a long time. After Rf6 white plays Rf2, you have to take with the Queen and then Nf1. Rh6 is just a check as you can block with Nh2. You will need quite some time till mate.
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One of your best videos. Really excellent. I go through periods of playing the Dutch but my inspiration has mainly be Simon Williams way of playing it. He doesn't usually trade that C3 knight and he tends to go for a king side attack with Qe8. Yours is similar but lots more focus on quick wins. I don't immediately see a problem with it, plus I remember Magnus used to do something similar when he played the Dutch but with the stonewall . He was a big fan of that C6 trade. Having watched Simon play titled Tuesday for years I rarely see him get a worse opening position in the Dutch, even against much higher GM opponents. So the notion that GMs can exploit it is probably just not correct
What about opponents doing pawn breaks ?? Like e5 or d5 ?? Which happen like 90% of the time but not shown here...would have like to see how we deal with that
I think he missed this because he assumes our opponents are bad, so you can get away with certain moves. But he always explains your moves based on the most common move of the opponent. But that's not most common for 'our' level opponents
Igor, you prefaced the video by saying that the Dutch could be used against openings other than the Queen's Gambit but then all of the examples are using the Queen's Gambit setup. Could we see this used against the London please? Love these videos, keep 'em coming!
Here's what I got for the puzzle (my notes for this position started on move 13 with Queen check) 13...Qxe3+ 14.Kh1 ( 14.Rf2 Qxf2+ 15.Kh1 Qxe2 16.fxe4 Bxe4 {Qxg2#, if Nxe4 then Qxc2, if Rg1 then Bxc2 } ) 14...Nf2+ 15.Kg1 Nh3+ 16.Kh1 Qg1+ 17.Rxg1 Nf2# {smothered mate} )
We love our smothered mates, but unfortunately white can prevent it with 15. Rxf2. Black does come away up the exchange, but there's a forced mate which I'll leave for you to find.
Igor I am a 1700 ,I play both the dutch and kings indian against d4 but I get more tactical and rich positions in kid. In most of the time I play Dutch in my level they play the Staunton gambit or hopton attack which gives me positions I don't like at all compared to kings indian.
GM Igor, your videos really help me improve my chess. One request: please upload a video for countering scotch opening for black. I am not yet comfortable with scotch opening. Thank you.
Nice! I used the Dutch (being Dutch myself ;-)) many times. But it's difficult playing against several gambits used against it, like Staunton- or Krejcik-gambit, esp. if you start the Dutch with 1... - f5. Thx for your very instructive video's!
Really enjoy your teaching style. Things just make sense. I’ve studied aloe of courses and materials and it often feels like I can’t apply the material in my games.
Hello Igor! in the future you could complement this dutch ( and the previous ninzo-indian video) with a variation if white goes for King side fianchetto.
Thanks Igor . I have been stuck just using the Queens gambit declined against d4 opening bereft of attacking ideas , but the Dutch defence looks like a lot of fun , so I will give it a go 😊
Hi Igor! Thank you for your videos , i ' ve got one question, i played the dutch defense and after the first move my opponent played bishop g5 and beat me in few moves, can you explain how to play against this move?
Same. I started playing the Englund Gambit but the best response to it is pretty natural so I usually was losing. All I want to do is not play the London...
Igor, could you put the Ruy Lopez opening in the playlist? My system of learning openings from you is via playlist videos by upload date. It is easy to manage and renew what has been learned. Thank you
Castling long here would be a mistake because all of the pawns are moved and the structure is damaged due to the black bishop trade on e3. The king would be deadly exposed and as long as you continuously attacked it, white would have no time for their plan.
Never happens. I've played the Dutch for years, and I've seen a long castle by white maybe twice. The MUCH more common option that he doesn't mention in this video is if white adopts a Catalan setup (Nf3, g3, Bg2, 0-0).
6:36 after Qh4+ what if he goes Kg1? He would be completely safe. I think Qh4 before Nxf2 immediately is better as you still have a strong attack on the white king.
Same thing, but White uses a tempo to develop a Bishop on a square where it's more a target than a strength. As a result, you have ideas of ...e6-e5 or even ...g7-g5 to expand with tempo on the bishop.
Some of us are Dutch defense players. If we don't like to play against the Staunton gambit, we have to risk playing against the French defense. The consolation is that the French occurs relatively rarely.
But your Nimzo-Dutch, Master Smirnov, puts Stonewall, Leningrad and Classical out of business! Really what I needed. In fact you've solved my most frequent opening problems, especially your improved BDG, but also the way you teach the Nf6 Scandinavian is highly appreciated. Way to go. Chapeau!
I'd really like to learn how to play the (Classical or Leningrad) Dutch, but it's a bit dangerous to just play 1...f5 and hope for the best, given White's various gambits etc. However, most courses or repertoires I could find are far too comprehensive with 100+ lines, most of which are irrelevant for my level (~1500 FIDE). Any recommendations?
well Nf2+ Rxf2 forced or it is smothered mate., with Kg1 Nh3+ and double check so Kh1 forced Qg1 Rxg1 forced Nf2# and good game. So after Qxf2 you are up the exchange with the idea that you have our queen close to the enemy king and a bishop sniping the king on the long diagonal.
You should start a series of openings and defenses like Chessbragh does.several days with 10 games per video showing different responses.doing it that way is better than 1 video
the problem I have with the format of these informational videos is that for us beginners you usually dont see theory last very long. It would be way more educational if you also explained to us the common inaccuracies and how it will or will not affect the various positions. Thanks.
6:30 Kf1 and white is still on the game you analyzed only bad moves for white (g3, Kg1 and Ke2). After Kf1, If Bxg2+ Kxg2 Qxe1, Nf3 traps the black queen
You didnt say how to play the dutch defense against london system, where you cannot pin the knight because the opponents knight goes elsewhere. Can you play dutch defense against london system then?
1 d4 f5 2 Nc3 Nf6 3 Bg5 d5 (control e4 and exploit the fact that white did not choose f4 for their bishop's square) 4 Bxf6 exf6 5 e3 g6 (or maybe 5...Be6 is even more interesting, to try and play g7-g5 in one go after black plays Nc6, Qd7, O-O-O) 6 h4 Be6 7 Bd3 (7 h5 g5) Nc6 (threatening Nb4 and preparing to castle queenside maybe) 8 a3 Qd7 9 Qf3 O-O-O 10 Nge2 g5 (with a very interesting position for both sides).
Unfortunately, the standard response to 1. d4 f5 seems to be 2.g3, after which you can’t play this system as it stands. If your opponents don’t know the standard response, they can soon find out.
If you play 1. ... e6 before f5, you avoid most of the anti-Dutch systems. There's a slim risk that they'll play 2. e4, transposing to a French, but it really doesn't happen very often. I've played the French/Dutch combo as my repertoire as black for years, and this transposition almost never happens.
4.Nf3 is a positional mistake, because Black wins the battle of square e4. Instead 4.Bd2 (or 4.Qc2) Nf6 5.f3, developing and preparing e3-e4. Then Bb4 is misplaced. Also ironically London setups are a problem: 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Bf4 etc. I've been playing the Dutch for 25 years. It's very risky indeed; I've won some great games, but I've also lost miserably.
Black will be too late to take benefit after e3, Bd3 and Nge2, as high level games demonstrated. Moreover if 4.f3 is weakening then 1...f5 even more so.
Thanks for this useful black opening against all 1d4. I have a question here, I’m still learning chess,it’s deferent openings,variations and defences, so, how can lean and understand all these opens,variations and defences?
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Ng3+, g3 Rf6 and now is mate unstoppable with any move from white coming too late to stop Rh6+. White can play f4 and block with Bh5, but that only delays by 1 move, or Qe4 (threatening Qh4 which would be protected by g3, therefore forcing >) fxe4, Bh5 to delay by 2 moves.
There is no guaranteed smothered mate with Nf2, as some comments suggest, as white can simply exchange rook and knight and get their queen into the action.
Mate is not unstoppable. I mean not for a long time. After Rf6 white plays Rf2, you have to take with the Queen and then Nf1. Rh6 is just a check as you can block with Nh2. You will need quite some time till mate.
What elo are you?
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@@Palimoe90 you are a strong 400 elo
@@danielbattle7620actually I’m 1600
12:40
Nf2 Kg1 Nh3 Kh1 Qg1 Rg1 Nf2 mate or lose the rook after the first move
Another sequence of moves
Ng3 g3 Rf6 and Rh6 mate on the next move
question: why not Qg1+,Rg1,Nf2# directly.
...Rg1 is not forced@@vinaymirchandani8013
@@vinaymirchandani8013King takes the queen on g1, not the rook.
@@MyBiPolarBearMax oh yeah, my bad! thanks!
This is incorrect Ng3 g3 Rf6 and Rh6 mate on the next move. It is not mare on the next move
I love the Dutch defense! Will make very good use of this video, thanks!
Igor I love watching you instructional videos. I’ve been getting better just from watching your videos and learning how to think about my positions differently. God bless you
One of your best videos. Really excellent. I go through periods of playing the Dutch but my inspiration has mainly be Simon Williams way of playing it. He doesn't usually trade that C3 knight and he tends to go for a king side attack with Qe8. Yours is similar but lots more focus on quick wins. I don't immediately see a problem with it, plus I remember Magnus used to do something similar when he played the Dutch but with the stonewall . He was a big fan of that C6 trade.
Having watched Simon play titled Tuesday for years I rarely see him get a worse opening position in the Dutch, even against much higher GM opponents. So the notion that GMs can exploit it is probably just not correct
What about opponents doing pawn breaks ?? Like e5 or d5 ?? Which happen like 90% of the time but not shown here...would have like to see how we deal with that
I think he missed this because he assumes our opponents are bad, so you can get away with certain moves. But he always explains your moves based on the most common move of the opponent. But that's not most common for 'our' level opponents
Pretty sure you just don’t take and re take when they capture on d5 and c5 and for e5 just move your knight where it was going to move next anyway
That's because it's an opening video, not an ENTIRE middle game or chess move's table. These variations are commonly played by opponents.
Igor, you prefaced the video by saying that the Dutch could be used against openings other than the Queen's Gambit but then all of the examples are using the Queen's Gambit setup. Could we see this used against the London please? Love these videos, keep 'em coming!
I love the Dutch. So glad to see a video on it
Igor my man. You finally granted one of my wishes. Just one more wish. The Benoni defense
He has a Benoni defense video: ruclips.net/video/jnxXrJDKkLY/видео.html
That’s the benko
I appreciate your help though
@@Palimoe90 Ah
agree, we need Benoni, modern benoni
Thanks, i like the pace of this video it was easy for me to follow
Here's what I got for the puzzle (my notes for this position started on move 13 with Queen check)
13...Qxe3+ 14.Kh1
( 14.Rf2 Qxf2+ 15.Kh1 Qxe2 16.fxe4 Bxe4 {Qxg2#, if Nxe4 then Qxc2, if Rg1 then Bxc2 } )
14...Nf2+ 15.Kg1 Nh3+ 16.Kh1 Qg1+ 17.Rxg1 Nf2# {smothered mate} )
We love our smothered mates, but unfortunately white can prevent it with 15. Rxf2. Black does come away up the exchange, but there's a forced mate which I'll leave for you to find.
finally. Suggestion for the puzzle: Ng3+, h2 takes g3, rook f6 and rook h6 is unstoppable(only if he sacrifices the rook and the knight)
Nf2+
If Rxf2, Qxf2 then overpower with a combo of queen rook and light-squared bishop
If Kg1, Nh3+, Kh1, Qg1+,RxQ, Nf2#
Igor I am a 1700 ,I play both the dutch and kings indian against d4 but I get more tactical and rich positions in kid. In most of the time I play Dutch in my level they play the Staunton gambit or hopton attack which gives me positions I don't like at all compared to kings indian.
GM Igor, your videos really help me improve my chess. One request: please upload a video for countering scotch opening for black. I am not yet comfortable with scotch opening. Thank you.
14:42. 1Q-c2 Q-g6, 2B×N B×N!, 3P-g3 R×B. Or 1B-f4 P-d6
Best move :Qween g1, followed by knight to f2 smothered check mate
I think if white responds to Qg1+ with Kxg1, the smother is off
Kf2 first @@andyjabez9780
0:57 You forgot that it was the best opening of all time, and you covered it... the DURAS GAMBIT 🗣🗣🗣📣📣📣🔥🔥🔥
Nice! I used the Dutch (being Dutch myself ;-)) many times. But it's difficult playing against several gambits used against it, like Staunton- or Krejcik-gambit, esp. if you start the Dutch with 1... - f5.
Thx for your very instructive video's!
Really nice setup! I am going to study this one, but I have one question, what if they play prophylactic a3 before you develop your bishop to b4?
I have been running into this and I have the same question
I have a similar question. If white is indeed trying for a london, then they might move c3 instead of c4, which also protects against Bb4.
@@fluxrider7027What does stockfish say?
Thanks a lot our coach , I played the Dutch before but you gave new ideas for it ❤
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Really enjoy your teaching style. Things just make sense. I’ve studied aloe of courses and materials and it often feels like I can’t apply the material in my games.
Great to hear!
12:40 Ng3 hxg3 Rf6 looks winning for black.
Love this.. i wish you also cover French Defense for Black..
Hello Igor! in the future you could complement this dutch ( and the previous ninzo-indian video) with a variation if white goes for King side fianchetto.
I also encounterd that
Can this be adopted to an E6 B6 ? Obviously not against Catalan
In a previous video you showed how to defeat the Dutch Defense in just six moves. How should Black defend against that strategy?
One of the most informative and important videos! Thanks
Thanks Igor . I have been stuck just using the Queens gambit declined against d4 opening bereft of attacking ideas , but the Dutch defence looks like a lot of fun , so I will give it a go 😊
Your lessons help me improve my trading strategy. Thank you for your expertise and experience!
Ng3 hg forced. Now rook lift Rf6 indending Rh6. Only delayed by Rf2. But after Qxf2 mate is inevitable.
Question: What if white plays 1.d4, f5 2.e4 ? Should black accept the gambit, or defend the F pawn with e6 and let white make the trade?
Hi Igor! Thank you for your videos , i ' ve got one question, i played the dutch defense and after the first move my opponent played bishop g5 and beat me in few moves, can you explain how to play against this move?
Noted. 👍
@@GMIgorSmirnov thank you very much
Been needing another weapon agaisnt D4 for a while!
Same. I started playing the Englund Gambit but the best response to it is pretty natural so I usually was losing.
All I want to do is not play the London...
@@WheatGrindingI love trashing Englund since it’s such a cheap trap. So much fun
Nf3+, Kg1, Nh3+ double check, Kh1, Qg1+, Rxg1 and Nf3# mate for the puzzle at 12:42
Nf2
Igor, could you put the Ruy Lopez opening in the playlist? My system of learning openings from you is via playlist videos by upload date. It is easy to manage and renew what has been learned. Thank you
Wow!! I like this!! Thanks!
I hope you cover also lines againts London System and Catalan!
#IgorNation
8:25 1P-d5 P×P, 2P×P N-a5, 3B×N P×B, 4Q×P and white stands better.
No. 2---N-e7, 3B×N P×B, 4Q×P B×P, 5Q-g4 B×N, 6P×B R-f5.
I love this opening, thanks and much love
What about setups where White castles long and push h4, g4,…?
Castling long here would be a mistake because all of the pawns are moved and the structure is damaged due to the black bishop trade on e3.
The king would be deadly exposed and as long as you continuously attacked it, white would have no time for their plan.
@@MyBiPolarBearMax I Was referring to those structures with no doubled pawns
Never happens. I've played the Dutch for years, and I've seen a long castle by white maybe twice.
The MUCH more common option that he doesn't mention in this video is if white adopts a Catalan setup (Nf3, g3, Bg2, 0-0).
I like the fact that it gives good guidance for placing a trade. I'm always willing to learn new strategies.
Please explain how to us Ditch Defense on other white attacking ideas.
each time I play the Dutch my opponent avoids Nc3 or even moves pawn to a3
Does it works against the Catalan
Do you have a course on the bird/dutch?
6:36 after Qh4+ what if he goes Kg1? He would be completely safe. I think Qh4 before Nxf2 immediately is better as you still have a strong attack on the white king.
Thanks Igor. I think we can get a similar setup for White with Bird's opening. Could you please make a video on Bird's sometime?
9:40 the most natural move is d5 blocking the bishop out of the play. Lots of variations are convoluted.. what level is this for?
One of my opponents play 2. a3 right after I opened with the Dutch. He knew what was coming and stopped the pin on the knight right away.
can you go over the variation where white plays g3 sometime after 1.d4?
How do you use this defense against London system?
Same thing, but White uses a tempo to develop a Bishop on a square where it's more a target than a strength.
As a result, you have ideas of ...e6-e5 or even ...g7-g5 to expand with tempo on the bishop.
P.o.t.d.: Nf2+, Kg1?? (Rxf2) Nh3++, Kh1 Qg1+ and Nf2#
I really love his videos tq very much Igor and tmrw I have a chess tournament
good luck mate!
Destroy them!!! U got this my man also play d4 as white eheheh
how was your tournament with this opening?
13:57 How did you get to this position? Because your line suggests 5...b6, not 5..Nf6
Ng3+ forces hxg3, followed by Rf6 and Rh6 cannot be stopped
Puzzle solution: Ng3# and after white takes, then Rf6, leading to an inevitable mate.
I really love your tutorial on this opening.
Glad you like it!
Some of us are Dutch defense players. If we don't like to play against the Staunton gambit, we have to risk playing against the French defense. The consolation is that the French occurs relatively rarely.
But your Nimzo-Dutch, Master Smirnov, puts Stonewall, Leningrad and Classical out of business! Really what I needed. In fact you've solved my most frequent opening problems, especially your improved BDG, but also the way you teach the Nf6 Scandinavian is highly appreciated. Way to go. Chapeau!
Solution to puzzle at 12:44 Nf2+ Kg1 Nh3+ Kh1 Qg1!! Rxg1 nf2#
I'd really like to learn how to play the (Classical or Leningrad) Dutch, but it's a bit dangerous to just play 1...f5 and hope for the best, given White's various gambits etc. However, most courses or repertoires I could find are far too comprehensive with 100+ lines, most of which are irrelevant for my level (~1500 FIDE). Any recommendations?
Start with 1.c6 and follow with 2.f5 to avoid any gambits or stauntons
well Nf2+ Rxf2 forced or it is smothered mate., with Kg1 Nh3+ and double check so Kh1 forced Qg1 Rxg1 forced Nf2# and good game. So after Qxf2 you are up the exchange with the idea that you have our queen close to the enemy king and a bishop sniping the king on the long diagonal.
You should start a series of openings and defenses like Chessbragh does.several days with 10 games per video showing different responses.doing it that way is better than 1 video
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the problem I have with the format of these informational videos is that for us beginners you usually dont see theory last very long. It would be way more educational if you also explained to us the common inaccuracies and how it will or will not affect the various positions. Thanks.
6:30 Kf1 and white is still on the game you analyzed only bad moves for white (g3, Kg1 and Ke2). After Kf1, If Bxg2+ Kxg2 Qxe1, Nf3 traps the black queen
Kf1..Qh2..Nf3..???
You didnt say how to play the dutch defense against london system, where you cannot pin the knight because the opponents knight goes elsewhere. Can you play dutch defense against london system then?
Is this opening a viable option in Over The Board, Expert level chess of around 1800-2000 FIDE
What if white quickly plays g3 and Bg2 so that the light-squared fianchetto for black is impossible? How do we alter the setup in this case?
How bout reti opening:quiet system? Catalan?
After the setup when you've got him in the corner, what do you do if he plays Rf1?
How to counter 2.Nc3 and then 3.Bg5?
1 d4 f5 2 Nc3 Nf6 3 Bg5 d5 (control e4 and exploit the fact that white did not choose f4 for their bishop's square) 4 Bxf6 exf6 5 e3 g6 (or maybe 5...Be6 is even more interesting, to try and play g7-g5 in one go after black plays Nc6, Qd7, O-O-O) 6 h4 Be6 7 Bd3 (7 h5 g5) Nc6 (threatening Nb4 and preparing to castle queenside maybe) 8 a3 Qd7 9 Qf3 O-O-O 10 Nge2 g5 (with a very interesting position for both sides).
Unfortunately, the standard response to 1. d4 f5 seems to be 2.g3, after which you can’t play this system as it stands. If your opponents don’t know the standard response, they can soon find out.
Shhh don't tell them!! 🤫
If you play 1. ... e6 before f5, you avoid most of the anti-Dutch systems. There's a slim risk that they'll play 2. e4, transposing to a French, but it really doesn't happen very often. I've played the French/Dutch combo as my repertoire as black for years, and this transposition almost never happens.
That's going to be my replacement for King's Indian. Much better expalined, then anywhere else. Дякую.
4.Nf3 is a positional mistake, because Black wins the battle of square e4. Instead 4.Bd2 (or 4.Qc2) Nf6 5.f3, developing and preparing e3-e4. Then Bb4 is misplaced.
Also ironically London setups are a problem: 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Bf4 etc.
I've been playing the Dutch for 25 years. It's very risky indeed; I've won some great games, but I've also lost miserably.
F3 makes the king too weak
Black will be too late to take benefit after e3, Bd3 and Nge2, as high level games demonstrated.
Moreover if 4.f3 is weakening then 1...f5 even more so.
Thanks for this useful black opening against all 1d4. I have a question here, I’m still learning chess,it’s deferent openings,variations and defences, so, how can lean and understand all these opens,variations and defences?
Do Igors courses. Links above mate.
Hi Igor, one question
What can I do if he played d5 after his first move?
I used to play Leningrad version of Dutch but I like this one better.
I'd love for you to show how you could play this against the London system
After ...Bb4, white plays Bd2. What next for black?
Hi Igor please suggest me how can I destroy double fianchetto system
I used to play the Dutch exclusively when my rating was lower. Ironically almost played it again for the first time in years yesterday.
What about white bishop G5 before you move G8 knight?
Ben Feingold would like Dutch because he likes those flanking defenses
What if they go b3 after d4?
great defense, thanks a lot.
The Dutch Defense, a very interesting defense I'd like to play one day against a d4 opening !
What if he knows And play pawn A3 before knight B3? Hmm?
After N sac then Qh4+ why are u not showing Kf1
17:41, if they take with the pawn on b4, you take the queen, and then they take your rook on a8, then what???
What is the puzzle? Originally I thought you can go for smothered mate, but white can just take the queen with his king freeing up h1.
I assume nf2+, rook take is forced which means you win the exchange, if kg1 then smothered mate pattern is set up perfectly, nh3+ kh1 qg1+ rxg1 nf2#
I tried it the first time and it worked! I annihilated my opponent even though they castled the other side leaving me very confused! 🙂
Glad this was helpful for you💛
Puzzle of the day is the standard smothered mate sequence. Love to see it 🖤😊
Teach us the theory of complete dutch defence.. strong players know the system
This moves & piece positions are same as that of the 'English Defense'... Aren't they?
I got to try this immediately. They brought out their queen and then played pawn to c3 instead of knight. It was a close game but I ended up losing
Thankyou Master...
5:27 hamornius position
What if the opponent plays bg2 before you develop yo own b7 bishop?
TNxX GM igor