Ask the Chiefs! | Chief MAKOi and Steam Man Discuss Issues Leading to Dali Losing Power in Baltimore
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- Опубликовано: 5 апр 2024
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April 6, 2024
In this episode, Sal Mercogliano - a maritime historian at Campbell University (@campbelledu) and former merchant mariner - highlights two @youtubecreators that provide information regarding MV Dali losing power in Baltimore and its allision with the Francis Scott Key Bridge.
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Thanks for the feature Sal!
Thanks for all that you do Chief!
ChiefMakoi super cool. 😎
I have been watching Chief Makoi for awhile, so glad you mentioned him.
Thank you for recommending Chief Makoi! Fantastic analysis!
Chief Makoi is the man! Thanks for featuring him.
You should interview Chief Makoi sometime.
Thank you Sal for recommending these two Chiefs. They know their stuff and do a great job of presenting it.
Chief Makoi is always educational, and you can tell he's been an instructor before. I really enjoyed his breakdown of the accident.
You know you've got the real deal when a man has strength of character to direct you to another.
Haha! The gerbil bit was hilarious!
I'm a stationary steam engineer at a major hospital in Virginia. Part of my duties is to take some care of the emergency diesel generators. I really appreciate these two men and their perspectives. Thank you, Sal!
agreed on the gerbil bit hahaha
what's the steam used for?? this piqued my interest
@@herzogsbuick Primarily sterilization of surgical instruments, heating of the domestic water tanks for kitchen use and use in the food serving tray cleaning machines, and also to produce humidity in the operating rooms to maintain a balance and cut down on the chances of infection. A couple of decades ago, we had our own in-house laundry service until they contracted that out.
@oldgoat142 did you have those laundry dryers that have a steam/air heat exchanger? First time I saw one of those on a cruise ship blew my mind. Also, the "calendar" machine. Big contraption that would fold, press, and dry a pile of wet table cloths or bedsheets or napkins. Dang thing took electric, steam, and control air!
@CatFish107 As a matter of fact, we did. I worked on them for a short time, but mother, they were a mother to fool with.
As for the calendar, (the ladies who worked it just called it the folding table), better make dang sure that thing was deenergized or you were going to pay with your fingers. A couple of old timers (back then that is) told me about witnessing that happening. Nasty story, but it made a big impression on this one-time kid.
@@oldgoat142 neat! Thanks for the reply.
Thank you! Yes Chief Makoi is brilliant!
Just watched Chief Makoi's video (I've been following him for a long time now) - he and the video are highly recommended! He's an awesome teacher!
What a pleasure to hear a rational voice in stream of hype.!
Chief MAKOi is absolutely the best, sure miss him not making as many videos
i'm a retired chief engineer---i agree entirely with chief Makoi's opinion as to the likley issues on board.
Chief Makoi is Da Man! He does however, bring out out one very important point -- so far we have not heard a single word from the pilots who were on board the Dali or from any member of the crew. They are the only ones who know what really happened and they've been gagged tighter than white on rice. So...all we can do is speculate on the cause of the blackout and the collision, until someone in the government breaks the news. How long will they keep us in suspense??
The best 2 things about being an Engineer and a conspiracy theorist is not having myocarditis and knowing this was a deliberate attack. The fact that the President himself declared this 100% an accident before 9am and before literally any investigation tells you all you need to know.
@@MrPLC999 You won't hear anything from the crew . They will be under instructions to say nothing by the ship owners and insurers/P&i club for fear that they comfirm liability. The official enquiry is the only way that there is any chance that the full and correct story will come out.
I've watched Chief Makoi's videos before, but I'd almost forgotten about him. That man is to be trusted absolutely on this topic and I appreciate Sal sending us to his video first.
"I had a simplistic view of how things work down in the engine room." Most 'topsiders' do Sal. In both of my sea tours I was a 'topsider' (Operations Dept) but took advantage of the opportunity to learn how things work in a gas turbine ship (scratching my curiosity bump) in my first ship and found it fascinating. Even today I still have that "bump" to scratch about ships and how they work so Thank God for RUclips and all the people like yourself who have so much to share.
Thanks for sharing accounts that are helping to dispel the insane amount of misinformation going around. We don't yet have answers but that's going to be a matter of time, not a matter of making things up until something "sounds" right.
I love that you're doing this Sal. Pointing us to other channels is great community service. Kudos.
Hey Sal, saw you on the news the other day. I glad to see you’re expertise is being recognised and you’re doing very well to inform people of the situation. The people of Baltimore need all the support they can get.
Thanks for refering me to the two chiefs. As a professionl engineer, it is refreshing to hear the analysis from people that know the systems involved with control of the ship.. It is hard to believe that three diesel engines all died simultaniously due to a fuel issue. I'm leaning toward an issue with the electrical systems as evvidenced by the nav lights dark on the first restart and they were lit on the second. I don''t know about big computer controlled diesel engines but the engines on generators and construction equipment do smoke on start up. I have followed Chief Makoi for a long time and his presentation was excellent.
Three great guys. I've followed Chief MAKOi for years. Thanks for the tip on Steam Man, Sal. I really admire your knowledge, dedication, sense of humour, and of course your professorial attire :) If my own professors dressed like you I am sure I would be smarter. Best to all.
Never seen any bad commentary, been following you and Chief Mako for years...lol
Loved your early work, especially the Margaritaville album.
My Dad, having served both in the Naval Reserve on the Great Lakes before Engineering at Michigan and as a navigator in the Army Air Corps in WWI was sent by General Electric to the Navy in Long Beach when they converted from steam to electrical controls on their battleships. Problem was that with electrical controls there was no time lag and the Bridge did not fully grasp this.
A big man is not afraid to share credit, professor thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I just watched Makois video before yours. I’ve been following him for years.
I would love to see you and Chief MAKOi do a stream or vid together!
Chief Makoi is an experienced marine engineer. I've been subscribed to his channel since the pandemic
The same here,always interesting topics on the subject I love....
5-Stars! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 I found it interesting to learn that these gigantic direct drive engines have no transmission... to be reversed, the engine must be stopped then restarted in the opposite direction while going less than 6 knots -
Wow. This is probably very impotant since they were underway at 8kts when the first underway power outages occurred. The Dali crew needed to drop anchor quickly and slow down by dragging the sunk anchor along, before later restarting in reverse. It looks like the Dali ran out of "runway" and time before the allision.
So many moving parts.
Love Sal and his information and humor!
Chief Da Man! I think all his fans, myself included were anxiously awaiting his view on this.
As Kenny Wallace says at times, lets "de-bullshit" this thing, Chief gets that done. He is a trainer, an educator, a lecturer, he delivers pure brain food.
Woohoo Chief Makoi! The running gerbil was hilarious 😂
Thanks 😆
I was also waiting for Chief Makoi's video.
Like you said the Dali is unlike any vessel we've been on. The Chief's comments on the effect of prop wash on the rudder included a handy video. It really shows the small size of the rudder, compared to the hull, on a large ship. It's so small that without the props effect it's next to useless.
Wow Sal and The Chiefs, love Chief MAKOi's site
Been following chief Makoi for a while and watched his explanation earlier today,WOW, couldn't have been presented better; but then he IS the go to Chief Engineer on utube!!
Keep up the great work, Sal!
Did I hear that the ship had electrical problems in port
yes, more than one issue. There was an interview of a lady who was involved on shore with the refrigerated containers knocking ship or shore
(TBD - to be determined) power out more than one time before leaving dock.
I’ve been following Chief Makoi for a long time. His videos are interesting to me as an electrical and software engineer. Frankly, I tinker with all kinds of mechanical things and huge ships engines are fascinating to me. I’ve been around mechanical stuff all my life and remodeled a couple of my homes(I’m morally opposed to doing big dry wall projects, however!)
You got the right guy! Chief Makoi is where I learned about the care that goes into fueling, the processing, the preheating, filtering and fuel check sampling for contaminates, water, and chemistry. That's why I can't help thinking that IF the Dali shut down because of "bad fuel" or fuel filtration, then I SUSPECT they would be cutting corners or pencil whipping log books, etc. So the question would be, was the Dali a scow on a shoestring budget and on her last legs, or a highline operation that was just unlucky?
If there was ever ANY doubt on how carefully and objectively you approach your subject matter, this video dispels it! A TRULLY wise man, as yourself, knows when his knowledge might not cover adequatelly a problem and seeks the correct resources to solve it. I have watched Chief Makoi before, he does very level headed videos. You just gained a subscriber Sir!
Chief Makoi is my go to expert.
Loved the initial concept of power source, great video Sal. Thank you
You really are a great community asset
Thank you Sal
Thank you, Sal, and Chief MAKOi, feeding to those algorithms...
Thanks Sal. Thanks to the Chiefs as well. I've chatted with Chief MAKOi for several years.
Love the shirt Sal! I am subscribed to Chief Makoi, I’ll go and have a look. Thank you. All the best from Sydney Australia 🇦🇺 PS: I have just had a look 👀 at those channels, very enlightening and well worth watching.
I have watch most of Chief Makoi’s videos. They are exceptionally informative and extremely well made. His video on “Traversing the Straits of Magellan” is media excellence award worthy!!
I too, have been eagerly awaiting a video from @ChiefMAKOi! He's a top-notch mariner and an excellent communicator!
Chief MAKOi points out some of the things we don't yet know, which is both very well informed and brutally honest. Well done, sir.
thanks for working on the weekend.
Nice to have the Chiefs and their expertise...
Nice recs! I have enjoyed chief Makoi's videos and used them to show friends and family what it's like at work for me. This steam fella is new to me, and I appreciate it.
Great shout-outs to the Chiefs. They are both excellent sources of information. There is still a lot of crazy stuff out there from clueless or agenda driven channels. You are doing good work trying to clear the air.
I LOVE MAKOI!!!!!!!! Such a great channel.
Sal, I get so much from your videos every time I watch them. I started watching you from the beginning.
Blancolirio whom I have great respect for also recommended you. He is always on point with the information he gives just like you.
I watched chief MAKOi from his humble beginnings also. He has a wealth of knowledge and is well grounded.
I can always count on you guys for accurate and detailed information. It’s too bad more people aren’t aware of you guys at all.
Keep up the excellent work!😊
Wow - now that's a p;luig!! I'm on my way to sign up at both channels now Sal.
I'm a lot smarter - since tuning in to every episode of What's Going On With Shipping!
This video is awesome! I just got recommended your video on the Key bridge, and I have just been binging your and Chief MAKOi’s videos after you plugged him. Super interesting field I had never even thought about before
Awesome! Thank you!
Thx Sal. Chief M's vid was outstanding!
Thanks, Sal! Heading right to both of those guys now! If you like ‘em, I love ‘em!
Sal, thanks for putting me on to the Chief's videos. I'm especially interested in he fuel quality on board Dali at the time of the mishap. I realize there are no definite causes at this point, but as petroleum acquisition specialist I suspect a fuel quality factor.
Super Thanks Sal,!! To many think they know more than they do. But you are willing to tell us to go to those who really know. That's the sign of a great man to know what he knows but more importantly to say when he does not know. Thank you very much.
You are a treasure, my dude. What a serendipitous messenger for a critical industry at a critical time
Everyone agrees
Great guests, great episode. Thanks Sal.
Thanks again Sal !...You are a treasure trove of insight and the lead ins to SMEs is awesome !...Thank for what you do !
Chief MAKOi's video appeared in my feed earlier today: great resource and information! Earlier in the week, the RUclips algorithm also directed me to Steam Man's video on how the steering system works: also an interesting video!
Good call Sal,
Both were very informative.
Those are real engineering men who understand every corners of the ships and make sure the engines running smoothly! 👌👌
Been following Chief Makoi for several years, super insightful.
You are the real deal, my friend. And it’s nice to hear you promoting other channels.
Love from Dundalk(:
Solid content. The collaboration and recognition between channels is valuable.
Thanks Sal. Very interesting
Thanks Sal. When it comes to marine disasters you are the man - and Chief MAKOi is the below decks man. We are all better informed thanks to you and RUclips.
I found, and sub'd to, CHIEF MAKOI's vids before I found your channel. You're right. He's smart and wise, a combo all those in-charge MUST have. Love your channel; you are fun and I'd trust you with a boat. 😉Growing up in MN I lived in and on the water. I'm glad I learned common sense -- "water wisdom" -- on small, relatively calm bodies of water, and much smaller boats. Thank you for sharing your dedication and generous spirit.
I may freekin' not know what I am talking about, but the Hawaiian Shirts are kicking it! The Mouse bit was funny too.
maybe Sal was hamming it up with the Hamster engine.
@@Carlos-im3hn LOL, looked like a rat to me... I didn't see a pig.
Thanks for the info, thanks for graciously featuring the other channels. I'm amassing an arsenal of primary source research sites that save me from mainstream media.
Exceptional insight from *ship* engineers who can give accurate accounting of how things actually work, no guessing, no bs. 👍👍
Chief Makoi is the man!
Chief Makoi is the man! I love how my favorite RUclipsrs are connected. I’ll have to check out Steam man.
i've been watching chief makoi for probably 2 years. i've been watching you, sal, for...not quite a year. and watching you a bunch since the dali incident. i saw makoi's video before seeing this, but if you're recommending steam man, i'm excited to check him out. thanks for everything
Sal, thank you for pointing out that information communities exist and its fascinating when you find them.
I had recommendations for your channel before I subbed from watching Sub Brief. I find that there are rabbit hole communities behind almost every channel I look into.
Degrees of separation is a fascinating principle.
Thanks for the referrals, Sal!
It's good to have input from people with ACTUAL experience.
The problem with the interment is people with little (or no) experience tend to be the loudest voices, mostly to hear themselves talk.
I knew a tugboat captain so I must know EVERYTHING about running a tugboat, right? .......LOL
Keep up the good work!
Thanks again Sal; you together with Chief MAKOi and Steam Man really helped to bring much more light into this issue with giving technical explanations while clearly mentioning of what’s still `educated guessing´ based on the port’s CCTV video only. Also highly appreciate your professionalism (with good sense of humour) to give credits and reference to other sources!
LOVE the direct reference. nothing to hide
Thanks Sal. Believe it or not, I saw both of these gentlemen's videos on the Dali incident before I saw your recommendation. And you are absolutely correct. There is a lot of speculative information out there so it was refreshing to get the perspectives of guys who knows these ships, their systems and how they are supposed to respond and operate.
I have never seen the Steam Man and will check him out. Chief Makoi I have been watching from nearly the beginning of his channel. Good stuff as always Sal Thanks.
A real and good professional direct you to the appropriate ressources when it's out of his speciality. That's exactly what we see here.
As for the "This type of vessel is different from your boat". I have a (2) relative(s) who worked on icebreakers and search and rescue ships. A navigator and an engineer. They both know a lot but fully aware that it's out of their specific expertise.
I too was waiting for Chief Makoi to put out his video on it. In my mind, he is my definitive source on merchant vessels.
LOVE the shirt, almost as I love your content. From the Bab al-Mandab (take a drink!), to the incident in Baltimore, to regular updates with what's going on with shipping!
Thanks Sal. Appreciate it. Had already noted and dived into the Chief's just released clip. But appreciate all the links and your input.
In one of your clips, seems, time line most likely, you note a number of anomalies in what took place, among them, the late triggering, if you will, of the backup generator. It seems to me, each one of those should be explained, delved into, and as said, explained as best as possible.
another wonderful video Sal....thank you
I just love that I have stumbled all on all of these sources before they started recommending each other. :D
Love seeing the boating community coming together. Sad it's only over a tragedy but hopefully you all keep into contact and maybe collab on other stuff later.
Thanks for the analysis, from someone with the engineering/education/experience, to explain this event. It has been my suspicion from the first appearance of the 'black-smoke' that this disaster was 'fuel-related'. Of course, every action of the captain, chief-engineer, and crew will be scrutinized exhaustively, by every investigative authority. Their actions, post engine failure, will be throughly investigated. However, the electromechanical controls will also be scrutinized, by the best marine engineers. Knowing that these events are simulated, and trained for, in marine education is good, even if the outcomes are generally disasterous; "ships go bump in the night" ...and even in daylight. Separating fact from fiction is not easy in today's mass-communication environment, but it's nice to find someone with the truth. Thanks again🫡👍
Been following Chief Makoi for a long time. His videos are a fascinating look at life on the sea as a mariner.
Great video. Just watched the Chief
Nice shirt, Sal!
Sal's a cool guy - - you can always count on him to have his shirt together!
As a non practicing Naval Architect, all of this is stuff we were introduced to in school and saw in ship walkthroughs, but actual qualified operators who have depth of experience with running ships engineering and leading engineering teams is the ground truth. Difference between knowing and living the specific things.
I’ve been following Chief Makoi for years before the Dali. He is top notch. I love him
You really should do a line of shirts.
I greatly appreciated your comment about how there's the "Deck Officers" and the "engineering officers" and how they need to work together. And almost always they do. Because their lives and the ship depend on co-operation.
Many ocean shipping vessels have "single points of failure" -- like one diesel, one screw, one feeble backup diesel, if it starts.
Whatever happened with Dali and the bridge, there's zero evidence so far that the crew, master, pilots, failed.
For now, me (in Minnesota) we, here, need Baltimore port to get in service soon, no kidding, us Midwest lose money when Baltimore is out of service.
My kid served on a US warship. There were backups to the backups, there were ways to hand-crank backups-backup thingies.
Commercial ships, there's limited governance.
Vulnerable bridges, many.
Mostly, us humans, get along Okay. Never cross into the oncoming lane. But shit happens