Thanks for your time & consideration to put all those links there man! As for your set-up inside & all your tips & better ways... You are a freaking genius with this stuff! So thank you for sharing all the years & years worth of knowledge on here openly like you do. It says a lot about you that you're willing to help people this way... "Where we go one, we go all"
@@rbwhite66 In the info ( upload date and description area) below the video theres a source link to the only store thats carrying them like this on aliexpress. You Tube can't scrape money off the link I put up there and will block me from putting it down in a post. Google has no skimming $$ off web traffic to China direct. hahaha. But IN my video description I can put the links to parts and turbines I have tested.
Thank you for the video. I'll be ordering it tomorrow for my house in india. My home runs totally on solar: 9500 watts of panels and 16 150 ah batteries. Could do with some extra power during the night. I plan to install three of these turbines eventually.
JOHN, THIS IS SO GREAT THAT YOU ARE SHARING THIS WITH US! THANK YOU VERY MUCH! I HOPE I CAN LEARN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, AS I AM TRYING TO HELP MY MOM OUT TO GET HER OFF GRID SO SHE WILL BE ABLE TO STAY IN HER HOME..I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO ANYTHING YOU PUT OUT.. THANK YOU AGAIN JOHN.
Hello John, thx a lot for everything. I bought lot of turbines from Missouri wind and solar. I was very disappointed. Even though the installation was easy. What kind of brand is this? Thx
I love your hands on no BS approach. I am looking for a couple of turbines to augment my solar backup system and look forward to seeing how these perform. Thanks for all you do.
My suggestion is the 3 blade if you have any good wind at all. Its a true performer. If you have very little wind but better winds at night you need the 5 blade. But never expect them to make 500 watts just because theres a breeze. I use 8 of the 3 blade models on our place in Texas, much less wind than I have here, they run all the time but at 100 to 200 watts due to winds never getting much over 15mph which gives me 100 to 140 amps battery feed most the time.
you need a pretty substantial drill to bench test turbines for amperage, ive always found blades put out more amps than bench testing with a drill, that is once a turbine is up and running in the winds.
Have you ever tested ista breeze turbine? I currently have a hurricane wind vector turbine and great turbine, love to have another, but when check Tony website, thier isn't a buy it now button anymore, so looking for an equivalent turbine.
We installed 2 of the 750 watt ista turbines. I told the guy who bought it that the blade size don't call for 750 watts. It only hit 533 watts in 25-30 mph winds. He later installed 2 sunning 800 watt turbines and got over 1100 watts in 25+ winds.
Your in luck, B&C is one of the very few licensed dealers for sunning turbines. And if you buy more than one they can cut you a damn good price on shipping and these things are seriously heavy solid machines. s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_ABoFOx shipping is very high but your total price is over $100 less than buying it direct from sunning.
Phew, there is much to learn about these turbines :), thanks for help! Was checking the difference between 3 and 5 blade ones, this is still most blurry to me. You recommended to me once in comment a 5 blade one and you are probably right, i see that from map of the wind speeds (2m/s - 8m/s) and what i learned from studying last few days, so i guess you know what are you talking about :), thanks again.
If you get a Turbine, Don't forget to get a meter for them for safe monitoring ( www.banggood.com/custlink/KvKmUcHNaB ) and a new full switching schematic video on my channel is coming real soon
James you have to go 150 amp amzn.to/3TIeTcS the proper heat sink, amzn.to/3tR5CVb and use heat sink compound amzn.to/3vllVdf on the back of the rectifier. I had to do the same thing for the 600 and 800 I am running, efficiency increased by a little, and no more toasted rectifiers. YOU MUST run minimum of 6 awg from the rectifier output to battery so you do not get resistance and heat on the output that will burn them. Small wire makes huge resistance it can fail from.
Hi John, Thanks for for the information and will be put in place asap as I am fed up buying rectifiers. I have watched all your videos and love them so keep it up. Here in in Scotland I bought the 500 watt wind turbine you recommended and love it.
I have watched a number of your wind turbine videos so a far, and frankly they are pretty interesting and informative. Thanks for taking all the guess work out of purchasing, assembling and operation of these renewable power sources. There is a lot of misinformation about them and a lot of skeptics. I hope to be getting one in the not-to-distant future for my waterfront property that will supply as a alternative backup to solar panels. Cheers!
If you get a Turbine, Don't forget to get a meter for them for safe monitoring ( www.banggood.com/custlink/KvKmUcHNaB ) and a new full switching schematic video on my channel is coming real soon
Tanks again for these videos! I am currently on solar, but struggling up north in winter time, so gonna try wind next winter. Is it possible for you to draw up a sketch of your setup with the electrical components? Perhaps you have done it in a previous video? I guess this will be interesting for a lot of people to see. Thanks
I’m a little confused when you say use a 48v turbine? In one video you said the same turbine was 12/24/48 unless I miss understood something. Thanks again for all your great info!!!
@@JOHNDANIEL1 Thank you! Also, I have another question for you that I think your experience will add to the answer - I've got 2 turbines A & B. On my workbench I have each connected to pretty much the same meter you use and pass the juice to a 300W razor motor as the load. I spin them each at around 700 rpm and they only generate about 115W! Which seems really low based on everything I've seen. A is 12V, specified to reach 2kW. B is 24V, specified to reach 1.6kW. Do I just have 2 dud turbines? I'd really appreciate your take on these numbers.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 Ahhh. Makes sense - Thanks very much! Suggestions on "best" test bench battery [really only to verify specs vs. an actual storage bank].? I've heard golf cart batteries, but I'm new ;p And I'm cheap! I greatly appreciate how you take that into account in all your clips that I've watched.
It depends on where your at. Normally they deal with VAT fees but always make sure when you get to check out page you read all the related info. You can also put what you want in cart, then under the store name hover on it you'll see "contact". Send them a message. They answer fairly quick. If your buying from one of my Ali links to them tell them you need a 5% off offer for JOHN DANIEL you tube channel.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 Thanks so much for the quick update, learning tons from you. I'm needing to build a VAWT and would like to see info on parts for that, like blades, etc..
VAWT designs are very insufficient still. Only a few prebuilt I would even recommend. But if you plan to use a fisher paykel PMA generator design it may help.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 Having an issue finding the Fisher Paykel design PMA. Looks like Missouri Wind has one…. but. If you know of a source for those that would be nice. Which prebuilt VAWT would you consider recommending
Check my channel for the 300/4 00 model they work very good and I would suggest a five blade model with a mppt controller that can do solar and wind. If you need direct links to them let me know.
5 blade is about 15% higher output from 9 mph till it hits 13 mph, the same power from 13 to 20 mph, then 15% lower output after it hits 20 mph. As a trickle charger for 10 + amps, in lower wind areas the 5 blade is better suited.
We live on top of a hill between a valley; there is plenty of wind but I have difficulty figuring how much of a battery bank this will charge. Or how much an average house might need. Actually, we consume much less than the average home. We want to buy two wind turbines and put in a LiFePo4 battery bank. How about a video on battery banks?
LiPo and wind works well, you just have to have a much higher grade controller system. I have installed 8 of them, seems they have much more hard hitting amps for over draw conditions on inverters.
Dear John. Like many I enjoy watching many of your videos. I have installed few solar panels at home connected to a 1000w grid tie microinverter. It works well but am thinking of upgrading to try wind as we have more windy and rainy days and my panels are not getting as much as I hoped. I could add more panels but does not overcome weather.. I'm in eastern side of viti levu in Fiji & Get a lot more rain. However no one here has any experience in smaller residential wind power. Can I use the same Chinese 500w wind turbine and hook it to the microinverter and feed into the grid? Will I go direct into the microinverter without using any rectifier? Appreciate any advise you could provide. Thanks Avinash
You can install a 48 volt model with inverter made specifically for it based on your voltage/hertz of the Fiji system. Wind in 3 phase will not work into a solar micro grid tie. If you want a kit designed for your need, I can contact the people at B&C for you to get you a size and function rated all in one kit for you. The best options are the RS232 and dump load models, and as a designed kit I can get you a good deal on them if thats your goal. You can send me more info of your situation to my email olympicpowercontrols@yahoo.com . I usually replay in a few days, depending on the amount of emails i get.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 Dear John Thanks for your rapid response. Shows I have a lot to learn about wind power systems. I'll email you more details after work. Cheers and happy holidays Avi
You can put a manual brake on one, just using a switch with 3 poles. Not recommended though, its the leading cause of turbines burning up. Sellers of turbines want you to do that, so you buy more.
John I'm looking for a wind speed tracker so I can determine if a Turbine is useful in my area. Is there one you can suggest that will interface with a computer?
what model Grid Tie Inverter would I use on this 500Watt wind turbine? I don't want to include batteries at this time, just want to run the circuit in my house via a 120v outlet and shove anything left to the power company grid. Any idea? Will this 2500 watt power inverter that is mentioned in your video do the job of a GTI ? thanks.
use a 48 volt model turbine and always be ready for a wind storms to make this thing hit 1200 plus watts so a 1500+ wind to grid tie is best method. I often install the 2500 on the 800 watt 48 volt model, same store and people in the Ali link below video, and the outcome is excellent. But its big, 7-1/2 foot blade circ and must be on no less than sch40 2" pipe, preferable to use RIGID 2.5 sch40 from a place like PLATT Electrical supply. Yes, they make 2.5" for Electrical use and its tough!
@@richardsmith6157 Yes they do. Would you want a 2" pole pre-made mount for it? I do make them for my regular installs at about $50 delivered in the lower 48 states. It is multi fit so good for 300 to 800 watt turbines. It drops into the top of a 2" Sch 40 grade 10 or 20 foot section of galvanized pipe and is locked in with set screws made of self tap screws you drill the pipe for. That way you can just mount it on the turbine, drop it and its wire into the pipe and tighten up. Let me know, olympicpowercontrols@yahoo.com
Yes, get the 48 volt model, charge 4 basic 35 amp hour 12 volt SLA batteries ( its called slave batteries) with it, then connect your 30 amp Lithium capable solar charge controller to those batteries to get a sourced 48+ volts to charge your 24 volt LiPo bank.
You have a link to a "low wind" turbine but this is not correct, i ordered one three blade 24v by following this link but it need at least 500rpm to climb over the battery voltage and start charging! However it starts to spin at low wind but it needs really high windspeed for charging. Please tell me wich model you have tested that really start charging at cut in at approx 3m/s
Checking the link, its on a few of the other videos, its still to the low wind models, maybe your browser or a pop up diverted you based on your system. All the low wind models I have installed and the 2 I have are running as advertised in capabilities. But if you have them too close to the ground or obstructions or are combining solar or different chargers against them you can get different results.
@@JOHNDANIEL1if i follow the link i get to a 600w three blade and no oftion for five, anyway i'm suspecting the problem is with the 24v version. The resistance in a 12v stator is 0,9-1.0ohm and in the 24v 1,1ohm, it could even be the same! Could you please measure at wich rpm your turbines starts charging, its easy done by measuring hz before the rectifier, each rev is 6hz
@@HJFF1969 I can check into that RPM ratio. I do know its at and sometimes under 8 mph for the 500, at 7 mph on the 800 watt I do exceed average battery of 13.0
I guessing the limiting the temperature to 250°-350° F, is to prevent oxydising that will happen at a higher temperatures, while unshielded by the flux? I never used this method, I thought about it, I always used a stick welder, I have a 120v mig, I'm running flux core in, mostly for sheet steel, 1/16", 16 ga, or less usually, the thick stuff, I get out the big arc. It has a wide range of current, I want to build a gas powered air compressor and maybe a bigger generator to run a shop. Being off grid, I think that will be most effective, today and tomorrow would be a good time to have a wind turbine, its verry windy here, maybe too windy, I recently lost a couple trees, I'm thinking there is a place to put a tower!! I'm thinking atleast 40', with the other trees there, but this left a decent clearing. I may get one of these, great video!!
Great insight into the build just subscribed and it’s a nice compact turbine I also have built a homemade 650 watts wind turbine, a treadmill motor turbine and a little but powerful ametek 30v turbine and built 2 diy solar panels, be careful in high winds one of my first turbines blew up 😕and now have only 2 wonderful turbines working daily 😊it’s very satisfying watching those things working, keep up the good work buddy 👍
Which one do you most recommend all things considered? The 3 or 5 blade? Edit: Nevermind. I see in other comments that you've said the 5 blade is better in lower wind speed areas, & the 3 blade is better where winds around 20mph are commonplace. (Yes, I actually scrolled through & read some of them. Yes, I know I'm weird & I'm proud to be so nowadays)...
Good deal, but beware, the damn 5 blade spins all the time, just 5 mph and its turning. And thats good yes, but it only makes over battery charging power at and over 6.7 mph in my test. Thats a lot better than the 3 blade though in low wind areas. But in high wind, its never going to hit them crazy 1300 watt burst like the 3 blade. It did in 44 mph hit 1090 watts, so its heavy made and capable, it just has too much mass to hit the free RPM's the 3 can. BUT, I am making a 4 blade myself since they don.t make one, and YES 4 blade it works, Emerson Electric built and has 12 massive 4 blade, 90 foot diameter, 98,000 watt turbines installed since 1973 still running in Owyhee reservation desert on the Idaho / Nevada line.
good stuff John shall get one of those love ya videos mate no bullshit awesome work shop a clean work shop is a sign of a sick mind old fitter and turner told me that
Thanks so much... I'm both an electronic field engineer and a computer network engineer as well as a commercial pilot with dual rating... (which means I fly both airplanes and helicopters) Of course... all that and a couple bucks can usually get me a cup of coffee... lol I just mentioned all that to say I really enjoy listening to your rambling because I understand it and it really makes sense. I'd love to spend time talking and even working with you... I think we could really come up with a hell of a lot between us. Thanks for explaining about the slip rings. I knew we needed them, but hadn't heard about them in small wind turbines. I designed a generator many years ago, but I wouldn't bring it to market with libtards, (specifically nobama), in power... because I wasn't about to let the government steal it like they've done with so many others. So I tabled it till later... but... now it's later... and I'm forgetting details. I could see it changing the world as we know it and expanding our exploration capabilities exponentially both underwater and in outer space. My designs were for basic life building blocks for electronics/electrical/ mechanical and construction... In my many varied life experiences, it has allowed me to see some things differently than most... so I've been able to bring things to work together across many disciplines to allow for incredible leaps forward in how we can do things. Everything is basically currently used technologies brought together and used in so many ways never used or even thought of to work as never before. I'm not just a crackpot... I was certified back around 1990 to work with NASA in Florida. My Dad was a master mechanic, so me and my brothers all grew up working in mechanics so I think that was actually the best foundation I could have had for all the different things I got into in my life. I've built my own airplane and so many other things. I enjoy designing, fabricating and inventing things... it's exciting to take things from an idea and to bring it to reality. I know you know what I mean. One thing I'd like to discuss more with you is what I heard you say last night in one of your videos about setting 12v and 24v generators... Also, what gave you the idea to do your name in cyrillics? Till next time... CW
I am genetic connected to Lithuania - Romania and Czechoslovakia. My name came from a 280 year old bible carried to America by a ancestor. But it seems like you have some serious history and think!
@@JOHNDANIEL1 wowza... any idea what region of Romania your family is from? I lived there in Timisoara for two years and my wife is from Hunedoara. Before that, I lived in a small town about 126 miles NE of Moscow called Suzdal for a year.
My question is about how to figure the dc output voltage of the rectifier from the different wattage (400 500 800 etc and 12-24-48v..... for example a 800watt 24 volt generates what range of dc voltage output from the rectifier? And the same for a 800/12 or 800/48. What is the formula to calculate it?
It is kind of a natural standard for the open voltage to be three times the prescribed sold as voltage to be the output at rectifier without battery. That is called open voltage. Example: open voltage for a 12 volt turbine will run between 36 and 42 volts DC at the rectifier without the battery connected. When you connect the battery it draws the power down to what the battery needs the battery resist the incoming power and creates a charging result. Open voltage on a car alternator can be as high as 60 volts that's why they tell you do not disconnect the battery on modern cars it will cook the electronics inside.
I could only dream of having a shop like that I would probably get shot by the government for building some cool shit that would benefit humanity. I love dreaming up shit then figuring out how to build it then just do it.
Bring me $315,000 in small unmarked bills to a undisclosed location dressed in black with a English to Creole to Swiss translator and the place is yours just as it sits! Acreage to build a massive green house, 130% business growth area, low on florist and agriculturist just waiting for someone wanting to go underground in a mid evil method!
Seriously you could do some serious dr evil shit in that shop lol. All you need is a plasma 3d printer and a bunch of cool guys who are all mechanical and electrical engineers and your set
Great video for content, learned a lot and appreciate you doing this. One very minor irritant... could you drop the unnecessary pan pipe music? You don’t need any music or an intro. Keep up the great work though!
Now... I'm not sayin. I'm just sayin. Wouldn't it save you a ton of time just by using a pipe cutter instead of a portaband? Cheap, and straight the first time.
My big 1 - 4 REED pipe cutter is 50 years old, my 25 years of rigid gas, galvanized and packing lead/oakum in years doing plumbing (shows my age hahaha) I finally found a wheel for it since that video, But most people do not have a pipe cutter that can do this so showing how you can do it with a saw is handy.
What I've read about those is that the magnets in the generator became demagnetized because of some sort of defects, but if you change them you should be able to get the 300-400W that they say they'll do like these.
I bought the 600 watt 24 volt lantern and it does nothing, spinning by hand I get more than 20 volt but as soon I put on a small load it drops to about 5 volt, the wire inside is very thin, doubled and in star configuration, it is copper coated aluminium wire, the space between the magnets and coil is too big, decoration only, there is another RUclips channel reporting on it with lots of wind noise confirming my results with zero charging a 12 volt battery. Maybe the ones tested here are prototypes with real copper and stronger magnets inside and John got them to promote the product. His followers buy it just like i did and get scammed in the end. I don't trust these Chinese windmills.
That vertical Lantern turbine is a drag device. Proper horizontal turbines are lift machines, they use an actual airfoil like an airplane wing or propeller. Check out the cross section of a blade sometime. That's why they work so much better.
AGREED, my lantern deal has done nothing in Edgewater Florida, The horizontal works only in winds 8 mph or higher and then rattles, hard. Six months of testing. Did contact WUXIFLYT in China directly (or whoever they were) to ensure I had the correct models, updated design or whatever.
My name origin from 1519 AD., en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alytus We failed in America educating kids didn't we, Everyone thinks Cyrillic is only Russian, as if Latin is only Spanish and not 40% of the worlds basis for everything from english to creole!
Was liking your videos but to much bs, dont want to watch for a welding lesson stick to the turbine that you never did run on that video, losing interest in you tooting your horn
There is no bs on this video. The reason it is titled Micro Wind Turbine, The Installation Build is because it is about...... the installation build, and this involves welding. He is not tooting his horn but showing us how it is done, as the title indicates, and making the effort to demonstrate this to us for free. He also states that a video is coming up of the turbine in action.
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The best 500 watt REAL turbine and all the parts & numerous parts sources are *👆 UP there 👆* , under the video at upload date location.
Thanks for your time & consideration to put all those links there man! As for your set-up inside & all your tips & better ways... You are a freaking genius with this stuff! So thank you for sharing all the years & years worth of knowledge on here openly like you do. It says a lot about you that you're willing to help people this way...
"Where we go one, we go all"
What is the address to where I could order one
@@rbwhite66 In the info ( upload date and description area) below the video theres a source link to the only store thats carrying them like this on aliexpress. You Tube can't scrape money off the link I put up there and will block me from putting it down in a post. Google has no skimming $$ off web traffic to China direct. hahaha. But IN my video description I can put the links to parts and turbines I have tested.
@@rbwhite66 PS If your viewing it on a phone, the tiny down button on lower right displays video date and info
There is no info below the video.
Finally someone who takes the time to explain all the dynamics.
Thank you for uploading. Going to use this for my beachfront land. 🍻
Thank you for the video. I'll be ordering it tomorrow for my house in india. My home runs totally on solar: 9500 watts of panels and 16 150 ah batteries. Could do with some extra power during the night. I plan to install three of these turbines eventually.
JOHN, THIS IS SO GREAT THAT YOU ARE SHARING THIS WITH US! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
I HOPE I CAN LEARN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, AS I AM TRYING TO HELP MY MOM OUT TO GET HER OFF GRID SO SHE WILL BE ABLE TO STAY IN HER HOME..I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO ANYTHING YOU PUT OUT.. THANK YOU AGAIN JOHN.
Hello John, thx a lot for everything. I bought lot of turbines from Missouri wind and solar. I was very disappointed. Even though the installation was easy. What kind of brand is this? Thx
I love your hands on no BS approach. I am looking for a couple of turbines to augment my solar backup system and look forward to seeing how these perform. Thanks for all you do.
My suggestion is the 3 blade if you have any good wind at all. Its a true performer. If you have very little wind but better winds at night you need the 5 blade. But never expect them to make 500 watts just because theres a breeze. I use 8 of the 3 blade models on our place in Texas, much less wind than I have here, they run all the time but at 100 to 200 watts due to winds never getting much over 15mph which gives me 100 to 140 amps battery feed most the time.
What is the best wind turbine with less than 6 feet space. 1.5 Kw VAWT Or HAWT ?
you need a pretty substantial drill to bench test turbines for amperage, ive always found blades put out more amps than bench testing with a drill, that is once a turbine is up and running in the winds.
Hi Bro good afternoon, am following all your videos and am gaining lots of valuable info thanks for the videos please keep them coming
Good info as usual. Keep it coming. Have you ever thought about getting a gimbal for your camera?
Have you ever tested ista breeze turbine? I currently have a hurricane wind vector turbine and great turbine, love to have another, but when check Tony website, thier isn't a buy it now button anymore, so looking for an equivalent turbine.
We installed 2 of the 750 watt ista turbines. I told the guy who bought it that the blade size don't call for 750 watts. It only hit 533 watts in 25-30 mph winds. He later installed 2 sunning 800 watt turbines and got over 1100 watts in 25+ winds.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 thanks John, I appreciate you taking time, that's what I was wondering, I'll have to buy a sunning and give it a shot.
Your in luck, B&C is one of the very few licensed dealers for sunning turbines. And if you buy more than one they can cut you a damn good price on shipping and these things are seriously heavy solid machines. s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_ABoFOx shipping is very high but your total price is over $100 less than buying it direct from sunning.
Phew, there is much to learn about these turbines :), thanks for help! Was checking the difference between 3 and 5 blade ones, this is still most blurry to me. You recommended to me once in comment a 5 blade one and you are probably right, i see that from map of the wind speeds (2m/s - 8m/s) and what i learned from studying last few days, so i guess you know what are you talking about :), thanks again.
If you get a Turbine, Don't forget to get a meter for them for safe monitoring ( www.banggood.com/custlink/KvKmUcHNaB ) and a new full switching schematic video on my channel is coming real soon
Hi, I have the 500 watt wind turbine but I keep blowing rectifiers 100amp 1600v only in very strong winds. What can I do to solve this problem.
James you have to go 150 amp amzn.to/3TIeTcS the proper heat sink, amzn.to/3tR5CVb and use heat sink compound amzn.to/3vllVdf on the back of the rectifier. I had to do the same thing for the 600 and 800 I am running, efficiency increased by a little, and no more toasted rectifiers.
YOU MUST run minimum of 6 awg from the rectifier output to battery so you do not get resistance and heat on the output that will burn them. Small wire makes huge resistance it can fail from.
Hi John, Thanks for for the information and will be put in place asap as I am fed up buying rectifiers. I have watched all your videos and love them so keep it up. Here in in Scotland I bought the 500 watt wind turbine you recommended and love it.
I have charger and inverter of 5000 watts . How many watts do I need from a wind turbine with 48 volts ?
I have watched a number of your wind turbine videos so a far, and frankly they are pretty interesting and informative. Thanks for taking all the guess work out of purchasing, assembling and operation of these renewable power sources. There is a lot of misinformation about them and a lot of skeptics. I hope to be getting one in the not-to-distant future for my waterfront property that will supply as a alternative backup to solar panels. Cheers!
If you get a Turbine, Don't forget to get a meter for them for safe monitoring ( www.banggood.com/custlink/KvKmUcHNaB ) and a new full switching schematic video on my channel is coming real soon
Hay how hot can these turbines get before it breaks down?
230 degrees Fahrenheit is the winding coatings limits. I never saw mine in huge 50 mph wind storms exceed 150 degrees.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 wow ok thanks bro.
@@JOHNDANIEL1do you know the rpm at 50mph winds?
It will always depend on the blades used. But the 3 blade is 1400 to 1600 rpm, the Aero blades are 1000 to 1100 but make more torque.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 doesn’t that exceed the rated rpm for the turbine? Sorry for all the questions i just got one
Tanks again for these videos! I am currently on solar, but struggling up north in winter time, so gonna try wind next winter. Is it possible for you to draw up a sketch of your setup with the electrical components? Perhaps you have done it in a previous video? I guess this will be interesting for a lot of people to see. Thanks
ya need to use all the elements like solar, wind, water, fire power generation but then ya gotta store and maintain it time and money cost lol
I was watching a video where they drill into the generator and put magnets to make it produce more power. Would that work with this type of generator?
No
@@JOHNDANIEL1 thanks
I’m a little confused when you say use a 48v turbine? In one video you said the same turbine was 12/24/48 unless I miss understood something. Thanks again for all your great info!!!
If you follow the link below the video to them, you will see the options boxes for each voltage and blade style.
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Awesome!! Thanks man!
Hi John - what setting is your meter on for the tests [at around 10:00]? ...poor thing has seen some usage, huh? ;p
200 volt AC
@@JOHNDANIEL1 Thank you! Also, I have another question for you that I think your experience will add to the answer - I've got 2 turbines A & B. On my workbench I have each connected to pretty much the same meter you use and pass the juice to a 300W razor motor as the load. I spin them each at around 700 rpm and they only generate about 115W! Which seems really low based on everything I've seen. A is 12V, specified to reach 2kW. B is 24V, specified to reach 1.6kW. Do I just have 2 dud turbines? I'd really appreciate your take on these numbers.
When running them into an open load is not the same as running them into a capacitance battery your results will differ.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 Ahhh. Makes sense - Thanks very much! Suggestions on "best" test bench battery [really only to verify specs vs. an actual storage bank].? I've heard golf cart batteries, but I'm new ;p And I'm cheap! I greatly appreciate how you take that into account in all your clips that I've watched.
Definitely go GC2 STYLE golf cart battery.
Not having bought through AliExpress before, what is involved with additional customs fees and customs clearance
It depends on where your at. Normally they deal with VAT fees but always make sure when you get to check out page you read all the related info.
You can also put what you want in cart, then under the store name hover on it you'll see "contact". Send them a message. They answer fairly quick.
If your buying from one of my Ali links to them tell them you need a 5% off offer for JOHN DANIEL you tube channel.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 Thanks so much for the quick update, learning tons from you. I'm needing to build a VAWT and would like to see info on parts for that, like blades, etc..
VAWT designs are very insufficient still. Only a few prebuilt I would even recommend. But if you plan to use a fisher paykel PMA generator design it may help.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 Having an issue finding the Fisher Paykel design PMA. Looks like Missouri Wind has one…. but. If you know of a source for those that would be nice.
Which prebuilt VAWT would you consider recommending
I'll look, send me a email and I'll get you some info back on it. olympicpowercontrols@yahoo.com
Hi john do they come small in size ????
or can u put me onto a good vertical axis one that you know that works well.
cheers jm
Check my channel for the 300/4 00 model they work very good and I would suggest a five blade model with a mppt controller that can do solar and wind. If you need direct links to them let me know.
What differences have you noticed between the 3-blade and 5-blade versions regarding wind speed and power output?
5 blade is about 15% higher output from 9 mph till it hits 13 mph, the same power from 13 to 20 mph, then 15% lower output after it hits 20 mph. As a trickle charger for 10 + amps, in lower wind areas the 5 blade is better suited.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 thank you for actual information I haven't seen anywhere else. ANYWHERE! And I went to a renewable energy College.
I'm ordering.What is better,5 blade or 6 blade.ty for answers in advance
5 blade is more power, 6 blade is overkill, not recommended honestly.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 ty for advice
We live on top of a hill between a valley; there is plenty of wind but I have difficulty figuring how much of a battery bank this will charge. Or how much an average house might need. Actually, we consume much less than the average home. We want to buy two wind turbines and put in a LiFePo4 battery bank. How about a video on battery banks?
LiPo and wind works well, you just have to have a much higher grade controller system. I have installed 8 of them, seems they have much more hard hitting amps for over draw conditions on inverters.
Dear John. Like many I enjoy watching many of your videos. I have installed few solar panels at home connected to a 1000w grid tie microinverter. It works well but am thinking of upgrading to try wind as we have more windy and rainy days and my panels are not getting as much as I hoped. I could add more panels but does not overcome weather.. I'm in eastern side of viti levu in Fiji & Get a lot more rain. However no one here has any experience in smaller residential wind power.
Can I use the same Chinese 500w wind turbine and hook it to the microinverter and feed into the grid? Will I go direct into the microinverter without using any rectifier?
Appreciate any advise you could provide.
Thanks Avinash
You can install a 48 volt model with inverter made specifically for it based on your voltage/hertz of the Fiji system. Wind in 3 phase will not work into a solar micro grid tie. If you want a kit designed for your need, I can contact the people at B&C for you to get you a size and function rated all in one kit for you. The best options are the RS232 and dump load models, and as a designed kit I can get you a good deal on them if thats your goal. You can send me more info of your situation to my email olympicpowercontrols@yahoo.com . I usually replay in a few days, depending on the amount of emails i get.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 Dear John
Thanks for your rapid response. Shows I have a lot to learn about wind power systems. I'll email you more details after work.
Cheers and happy holidays
Avi
Greetings I have a doubt please help how I can put a manual brake to my wind turbine and what I need for that thanks
You can put a manual brake on one, just using a switch with 3 poles. Not recommended though, its the leading cause of turbines burning up. Sellers of turbines want you to do that, so you buy more.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 thanks😬
John I'm looking for a wind speed tracker so I can determine if a Turbine is useful in my area. Is there one you can suggest that will interface with a computer?
Yes, amzn.to/2HQKt2s is what your seeking. Best you can get for the price.
what model Grid Tie Inverter would I use on this 500Watt wind turbine? I don't want to include batteries at this time, just want to run the circuit in my house via a 120v outlet and shove anything left to the power company grid. Any idea? Will this 2500 watt power inverter that is mentioned in your video do the job of a GTI ? thanks.
use a 48 volt model turbine and always be ready for a wind storms to make this thing hit 1200 plus watts so a 1500+ wind to grid tie is best method. I often install the 2500 on the 800 watt 48 volt model, same store and people in the Ali link below video, and the outcome is excellent. But its big, 7-1/2 foot blade circ and must be on no less than sch40 2" pipe, preferable to use RIGID 2.5 sch40 from a place like PLATT Electrical supply. Yes, they make 2.5" for Electrical use and its tough!
@@JOHNDANIEL1 will be in west Texas with no welding equip available 20miles from nearest town ...do all pole mounts require this method?
@@richardsmith6157 Yes they do. Would you want a 2" pole pre-made mount for it? I do make them for my regular installs at about $50 delivered in the lower 48 states. It is multi fit so good for 300 to 800 watt turbines. It drops into the top of a 2" Sch 40 grade 10 or 20 foot section of galvanized pipe and is locked in with set screws made of self tap screws you drill the pipe for. That way you can just mount it on the turbine, drop it and its wire into the pipe and tighten up. Let me know, olympicpowercontrols@yahoo.com
thx for prompt reply...am needing 2 purchase wind turbine first...will combine with solar panels..constant wind and sun out there!
Have any ideas for charging lithium ion batteries with a turbine?
Yes, get the 48 volt model, charge 4 basic 35 amp hour 12 volt SLA batteries ( its called slave batteries) with it, then connect your 30 amp Lithium capable solar charge controller to those batteries to get a sourced 48+ volts to charge your 24 volt LiPo bank.
Thanks for the education, Master Yoda. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
*_Thank you, I've learned a lot about wind turbines. I have a question on your little welder, do you have to reverse the polarity for flux wire?_*
Yes
Yes
You have a link to a "low wind" turbine but this is not correct, i ordered one three blade 24v by following this link but it need at least 500rpm to climb over the battery voltage and start charging!
However it starts to spin at low wind but it needs really high windspeed for charging.
Please tell me wich model you have tested that really start charging at cut in at approx 3m/s
Checking the link, its on a few of the other videos, its still to the low wind models, maybe your browser or a pop up diverted you based on your system. All the low wind models I have installed and the 2 I have are running as advertised in capabilities. But if you have them too close to the ground or obstructions or are combining solar or different chargers against them you can get different results.
@@JOHNDANIEL1if i follow the link i get to a 600w three blade and no oftion for five, anyway i'm suspecting the problem is with the 24v version.
The resistance in a 12v stator is 0,9-1.0ohm and in the 24v 1,1ohm, it could even be the same!
Could you please measure at wich rpm your turbines starts charging, its easy done by measuring hz before the rectifier, each rev is 6hz
@@HJFF1969 I can check into that RPM ratio. I do know its at and sometimes under 8 mph for the 500, at 7 mph on the 800 watt I do exceed average battery of 13.0
@@JOHNDANIEL1 ok perfect!
I guess my turbine (24v) will exceed at least twice that windspeed and therefore i presume it's also a 12v in reality.
I guessing the limiting the temperature to 250°-350° F, is to prevent oxydising that will happen at a higher temperatures, while unshielded by the flux? I never used this method, I thought about it, I always used a stick welder, I have a 120v mig, I'm running flux core in, mostly for sheet steel, 1/16", 16 ga, or less usually, the thick stuff, I get out the big arc. It has a wide range of current, I want to build a gas powered air compressor and maybe a bigger generator to run a shop. Being off grid, I think that will be most effective, today and tomorrow would be a good time to have a wind turbine, its verry windy here, maybe too windy, I recently lost a couple trees, I'm thinking there is a place to put a tower!! I'm thinking atleast 40', with the other trees there, but this left a decent clearing. I may get one of these, great video!!
If you go over 350 you get popping and pitting from the metal being burnished.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 More great info, thank you.
Ya got me very curious on this model, John. I'll be watch'n and wait'n to check it out.
So far, its doing good, making real results, but I am prone to 3 blade it asap just cause I am a AmpPornLover!
PS, will have your heater and lots of extras ready by the 5th of may.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 AmpPornLover.....he-he, Well I ain't Never❕ But, I'll try anything 0nce or twice even......👍🏼
@@JOHNDANIEL1 Just Not to much stuff.....remember I'm on Social Security, My Friend.
Great insight into the build just subscribed and it’s a nice compact turbine I also have built a homemade 650 watts wind turbine, a treadmill motor turbine and a little but powerful ametek 30v turbine and built 2 diy solar panels, be careful in high winds one of my first turbines blew up 😕and now have only 2 wonderful turbines working daily 😊it’s very satisfying watching those things working, keep up the good work buddy 👍
Which one do you most recommend all things considered? The 3 or 5 blade?
Edit:
Nevermind. I see in other comments that you've said the 5 blade is better in lower wind speed areas, & the 3 blade is better where winds around 20mph are commonplace.
(Yes, I actually scrolled through & read some of them. Yes, I know I'm weird & I'm proud to be so nowadays)...
Good deal, but beware, the damn 5 blade spins all the time, just 5 mph and its turning. And thats good yes, but it only makes over battery charging power at and over 6.7 mph in my test. Thats a lot better than the 3 blade though in low wind areas. But in high wind, its never going to hit them crazy 1300 watt burst like the 3 blade. It did in 44 mph hit 1090 watts, so its heavy made and capable, it just has too much mass to hit the free RPM's the 3 can. BUT, I am making a 4 blade myself since they don.t make one, and YES 4 blade it works, Emerson Electric built and has 12 massive 4 blade, 90 foot diameter, 98,000 watt turbines installed since 1973 still running in Owyhee reservation desert on the Idaho / Nevada line.
good stuff John shall get one of those love ya videos mate no bullshit awesome work shop a clean work shop is a sign of a sick mind old fitter
and turner told me that
Sweet! Thanks so much for all you do. !
Great vids like always
Thanks so much... I'm both an electronic field engineer and a computer network engineer as well as a commercial pilot with dual rating... (which means I fly both airplanes and helicopters) Of course... all that and a couple bucks can usually get me a cup of coffee... lol
I just mentioned all that to say I really enjoy listening to your rambling because I understand it and it really makes sense.
I'd love to spend time talking and even working with you... I think we could really come up with a hell of a lot between us.
Thanks for explaining about the slip rings. I knew we needed them, but hadn't heard about them in small wind turbines.
I designed a generator many years ago, but I wouldn't bring it to market with libtards, (specifically nobama), in power... because I wasn't about to let the government steal it like they've done with so many others. So I tabled it till later... but... now it's later... and I'm forgetting details.
I could see it changing the world as we know it and expanding our exploration capabilities exponentially both underwater and in outer space.
My designs were for basic life building blocks for electronics/electrical/ mechanical and construction...
In my many varied life experiences, it has allowed me to see some things differently than most... so I've been able to bring things to work together across many disciplines to allow for incredible leaps forward in how we can do things. Everything is basically currently used technologies brought together and used in so many ways never used or even thought of to work as never before.
I'm not just a crackpot... I was certified back around 1990 to work with NASA in Florida.
My Dad was a master mechanic, so me and my brothers all grew up working in mechanics so I think that was actually the best foundation I could have had for all the different things I got into in my life.
I've built my own airplane and so many other things. I enjoy designing, fabricating and inventing things... it's exciting to take things from an idea and to bring it to reality.
I know you know what I mean.
One thing I'd like to discuss more with you is what I heard you say last night in one of your videos about setting 12v and 24v generators...
Also, what gave you the idea to do your name in cyrillics?
Till next time...
CW
I am genetic connected to Lithuania - Romania and Czechoslovakia. My name came from a 280 year old bible carried to America by a ancestor. But it seems like you have some serious history and think!
@@JOHNDANIEL1 wowza... any idea what region of Romania your family is from?
I lived there in Timisoara for two years and my wife is from Hunedoara.
Before that, I lived in a small town about 126 miles NE of Moscow called Suzdal for a year.
Don't you have a chop saw bud?
Yes, its messy!
It's G&E not GE. ! A little deceptive ???
Nicely done!thumbs up.
Great Tutorial Video... Thanks for the parts links.
My question is about how to figure the dc output voltage of the rectifier from the different wattage (400 500 800 etc and 12-24-48v..... for example a 800watt 24 volt generates what range of dc voltage output from the rectifier? And the same for a 800/12 or 800/48. What is the formula to calculate it?
It is kind of a natural standard for the open voltage to be three times the prescribed sold as voltage to be the output at rectifier without battery. That is called open voltage. Example: open voltage for a 12 volt turbine will run between 36 and 42 volts DC at the rectifier without the battery connected. When you connect the battery it draws the power down to what the battery needs the battery resist the incoming power and creates a charging result. Open voltage on a car alternator can be as high as 60 volts that's why they tell you do not disconnect the battery on modern cars it will cook the electronics inside.
As usual I like it John nice setup. I thought you were selling that shop?
We still are, but theres no better place to run test.
I could only dream of having a shop like that I would probably get shot by the government for building some cool shit that would benefit humanity. I love dreaming up shit then figuring out how to build it then just do it.
Bring me $315,000 in small unmarked bills to a undisclosed location dressed in black with a English to Creole to Swiss translator and the place is yours just as it sits! Acreage to build a massive green house, 130% business growth area, low on florist and agriculturist just waiting for someone wanting to go underground in a mid evil method!
Um find me a winning lotto ticket and you have a deal lol I'm freaking broke.
Seriously you could do some serious dr evil shit in that shop lol. All you need is a plasma 3d printer and a bunch of cool guys who are all mechanical and electrical engineers and your set
Cool Beans. Thank you.
Great video for content, learned a lot and appreciate you doing this. One very minor irritant... could you drop the unnecessary pan pipe music? You don’t need any music or an intro. Keep up the great work though!
I would have liked to see it spinning.
See the follow up videos
Great info.
You made a cool video
Now... I'm not sayin. I'm just sayin. Wouldn't it save you a ton of time just by using a pipe cutter instead of a portaband? Cheap, and straight the first time.
My big 1 - 4 REED pipe cutter is 50 years old, my 25 years of rigid gas, galvanized and packing lead/oakum in years doing plumbing (shows my age hahaha) I finally found a wheel for it since that video, But most people do not have a pipe cutter that can do this so showing how you can do it with a saw is handy.
I use INE wire. It's good shit.
Hope it's not the same as with that worthless vertical Chinese lantern.
That vertical wind turbine wasnt worthless it actually did give him a skeleton he can mount a nicer PMA to and get the juice from it.
What I've read about those is that the magnets in the generator became demagnetized because of some sort of defects, but if you change them you should be able to get the 300-400W that they say they'll do like these.
I bought the 600 watt 24 volt lantern and it does nothing, spinning by hand I get more than 20 volt but as soon I put on a small load it drops to about 5 volt, the wire inside is very thin, doubled and in star configuration, it is copper coated aluminium wire, the space between the magnets and coil is too big, decoration only, there is another RUclips channel reporting on it with lots of wind noise confirming my results with zero charging a 12 volt battery. Maybe the ones tested here are prototypes with real copper and stronger magnets inside and John got them to promote the product. His followers buy it just like i did and get scammed in the end. I don't trust these Chinese windmills.
That vertical Lantern turbine is a drag device.
Proper horizontal turbines are lift machines, they use an actual airfoil like an airplane wing or propeller. Check out the cross section of a blade sometime.
That's why they work so much better.
AGREED, my lantern deal has done nothing in Edgewater Florida, The horizontal works only in winds 8 mph or higher and then rattles, hard. Six months of testing.
Did contact WUXIFLYT in China directly (or whoever they were) to ensure I had the correct models, updated design or whatever.
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What's with the Russian stuff? Not that I dislike any...
Lithuanian, and it makes the snowflakes jump off cliffs!
My name origin from 1519 AD., en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alytus
We failed in America educating kids didn't we, Everyone thinks Cyrillic is only Russian, as if Latin is only Spanish and not 40% of the worlds basis for everything from english to creole!
@@JOHNDANIEL1 , interesting strategy. haha
Also, I was looking to see how you stopped the wasteful cogging, can you direct me to the info.?
Was liking your videos but to much bs, dont want to watch for a welding lesson stick to the turbine that you never did run on that video, losing interest in you tooting your horn
There is no bs on this video. The reason it is titled Micro Wind Turbine, The Installation Build is because it is about...... the installation build, and this involves welding. He is not tooting his horn but showing us how it is done, as the title indicates, and making the effort to demonstrate this to us for free. He also states that a video is coming up of the turbine in action.
Turk this video is not about you. Get past your self