TOTAL PARTS LIST (must hit SHOW MORE or ▼ on phones) Best way to safely run one or many wind turbines at once with your solar and other incoming power sources, here's the requested sources. 400 to 800 watt turbines operating as multiples or just one. FULL LIST is under the video, anything else you having trouble finding or broken links let me know.
Fantastic to see all this integrated in a full system context @JohnDaniel. Also, GREAT progress on your system relocation/rewire. My question is on "PARKING Procedure"?? You loaded the PMA down for "Brake Switch" parking with your 100A DC load box on the rectified side of the circuit prior to popping the brake switches... Can one SAFELY throw the same brake switches if loaded on the AC side when the AC-Series'd resistors are engaged?? And, is there EVER a scenario when you'd ONLY ENGAGE a SINGLE brake switch?? I have yet to check the latest parts list and hoping you share your brake switch source. Again, thanks for laying all this our in comprehensive and integrated manner so we can all see the entire picture. I have the confidence now to integrate the turbine and solar together using this turbine management strategy. As I mentioned in another video post, I'm going to build my diversion controller bottom up and attempt to use "Ideal Diode / Form C" SSR's for my diversion, resulting in what should be a fully isolated diversion load (from PMA and Battery pack)
Hello,friend How are you?dear,I have n’t heard from you for a long time and I am very disappointed. I previously told you that the product video needs to be online within one month. You said that it takes 3-4 weeks to complete, but it has been several months.,I still have not received your reply. If you encounter any problems, please let me know. Looking forward to hearing from you! best greetings Eva
Thanks. I dump all my excess wind and solar energy into a series of electric water heater and store it in the form of hot water. We haven't had to directly heat water in several years. Thanks for the vid.
I cant wait to afford one of these. My wife has my leash short after the solar offgrid install. 30k cost off the grid 48 batts 7200 ah total, two sunny island 48v, 4 midnite chargers, gas dryer and gas generator, 50 solar panels. all done my self with some help here and their but I need to one day install two turbines or even one good one for the night time loads. My whole point is to not use the batts at all and just stay on float. I may need some help from John someday here. Thanks for the help and vids John for your time.
@JohnDaniel - My question is on "PARKING Procedure"?? You loaded the PMA down for "Brake Switch" parking with your 100A DC load box on the rectified side of the circuit prior to popping the brake switches... Can one SAFELY throw the same brake switches if loaded on the AC side when the AC-Series'd resistors are engaged?? And, is there EVER a scenario when you'd ONLY ENGAGE a SINGLE brake switch?? I have yet to check the latest parts list and hoping you share your brake switch source.
Good information again and know-how. Question, in the event that your not around during the wind/storm and no one is around, have you thought about a way to automatically throw the switch and brakes?
All your explanation is just great, but you need to think, as you go through all of it, of people who don't know anything about it, so to make clearer... Just a thought! Thank you for letting us have a better understanding of how wind turbines work!
I am very thankful to my GOD that you know what you are doing!!!! I am 60 years old and always wanted to know about how to hook up a great system like yours! Just in the middle of a divorce and going to be living in my 1973 Chevy truck with 2 some D8 tractor batteries that are used. And 7 25 watt harbor Freight Solar panels. When i can Lord's willing i want a wind turbine. I have some welding tools and wood tools in a trailer. I am a VETERAN and they are looking for a place for me to live.
I think about using a geyser element to use power when batteries is fully charged.Instead of letting the power going to waist. Is it possible to do.On 3phase use 3x single elements.? Anton South Africa
John Daniel, Please let me know the best input 12v/24v/48v DC CURRENT to 220v -240v/20A/@6500-watt AC Current peak inverter; for a deep water well pump? I don't see one on your parts list. Thanks for your response.
How would you use 24v lead acid battery as slave battery to charge lipo4 8 string battery at 28.4v? I have a 3000w 24v all-in one system, I love it. Just would like to all a good wind turbine. Parts and set up???
I have 2 1200 watt 48 volt wind turbines. I want to use them in conjunction with my solar panels. I need to know what all I need to set them up like a brake switch can you help
whats a diversion controller? wheres that schematic? is that for when the batterys are full and need the power to go to another set of resistors? thanks in advances
Looking at the schematic at 14:48, why do you use a double-throw switch on the input from the turbine instead of a simple triple-pole switch between "Input from Turbine" and "RUN to Rectifier", connecting the "Input From Turbine" directly to the "Loaded Down Safe Run" on the same side of said simple switch? I would think a single switch would be sufficient as it would provide a zero-ohm bypass of the resistors when closed (meaning these resistors would have none to microamperes of current when bypassed) and force the power to go through the resistors when opened. I would think that that would have the added benefit of being able to replace the switch with a 3-pole AC breaker (50 amps in your 12-volt example) that would trip at 600 watts and engage the resistive load automatically if the turbine produced an excess of power.
Great, no nonsense advice as always. Can I use a dc water heating element as a resistive load? Would like to get as much out of my power as possible. Best wishes from England from Rich
I am also very interested in the topic. As all this renewable energy cost a lot of money to produce AND it just does not make any sense to me to burn off any access as useless heat. Heating water seems to be the ideal because of efficient thermal storage as also a high consumption every day. So there are 2 situations that come to my mind. Nº1 is the situation when the batteries are simply full. In any well designed system this happens almost every day and a lot of watts get wasted BUT THE EXPERTS SEEM NOT TO BE INTERESTED Nº2 when an up normal high energy production occurs in form of climatic extremes That´s when a component is forced close or over it´s rated capacity and needs protection AND THE BEST THE EXPERTS COME UP WITH IS SOME STUPID RESISTORS ?????
Hi John an off topic question what would you go with in a low wind situation i.e the UK. Would you use a 12 volt or 24 volt turbine to charge 12 volt batteries via a controller as a 12 volt might not produce the voltage required to charge the 12 volt batteries at the wind speed we get here or would I be sacrificing Amps with a 24 volt turbine. cheers
Looking good buddy! Glad you made the schematic. Had a few people asking me to draw one up but I didn't feel rite doing it as it is your design. I'll send them your way. Wish I would see clean enough wind to need this awesome fly and brake system.... but hey, it sure looks pretty. 😉
@@JOHNDANIEL1 I'm very interested in the automated breaking system. Let me know if I can donate a few bucks. I'm only an aircraft mechanic but I would be happy to help you with that project.
Anything helps. My income dropped from over 40k a year to less than 15k a year due to White House Brandon. Hard to raise 4 kids on and keep up the energy program. Anyone can use buymeacoffee.com/JOHNDANIEL
Hey mate Aussie Simon here again. Now I'm rewatching this video, and hopefully links to parts still work because this is the good stuff I was asking you for. Cheers
@@JOHNDANIEL1 Will do thanks heaps for being so willing to help. We too are governed my a bunch of politely incompetent dickheads. Have you seen the Gas crisis on the East Coast of Aust at present . I spent 25 years as an Engineer working in Gas processing, offshore onshore LNG plants. Our smart arse politicians have NEVER told the big gas producers (Chevron, ConocPhillips, etc) to hold mandatory reserves for the eastern board of this country, so they have continued to export LNG at a phenomenal rate (I know I was 2IC for Concophillips Darwin LNG plant for years) and now we have a perfect storm. Many coal fired power stations are down for routine maintenance, bugger all wind and sun at present and a intense cold polar snap from Antarctica. We have very low gas generation but massive demand, prices have increased 300% + including electricity prices of course. But the massive export trains up in Queensland are still shipping literally millions of tonnes of LNG offshore (in Darwin NT we shipped a cargo every 5 days at 150,000 tones of LNG per ship at a lazy 55 million a cargo!) , Japan, etc who have GSA .. long term gas sales agreements. Our grubberments are just F**king fools, and the Oil & Gas shareholders are lining their pockets. In fact I own some shares from previous employment bonuses. My Conocophillips shares have gone from $35 to $122 today, + USD to AUD exchange rate, happy days, I'll buy a few more turbines and future proof my family and energy. West Australia who have even more gas than the East future proofed themselves decades ago against this crisis and thus have very adequate gas reserves aside from export. I hate the East of Aussie, full of no it all big knobs that just need a 12 gauge slug.
I wonder what they would think if we all got together, about a billion of us in all our money and resources, and did a reverse migration to Africa, the human origin, and took the whole damn continent over. Wouldn't take long before they all starve to death when we left.
Makes perfect sense! And the brakes...simply brilliant. I need to poke around this channel some to find what you use to dump power into when the batteries are fully charged...hot water? And the circuitry for that- is it automated?
I am having trouble finding a 12v dc fan to cool off my rectifier. come to find out it is rated to 13.2 volts and I fry it. Could you share a link to the ones you recommend? Thanks
Would be okay if I wanted to come work with you for a weekend to expand my knowledge of installing a small of grid wind turbine? I'll be going overseas this December and I'm wanting to do an off grid set up for a place I have in the world.
Thank you John I got my copy and solar wind schematic too. You are amazing knowing just 8 years ago you almost died and was crippled up some from a stroke. Your the third person I know this has happened to. MRSA is deadly, You said it was caused by MRSA virus years ago on your cattle trucker job, I read thats common so be careful with cows. We have moved back to the states, I hope you do another prepper solar class this year, we want to attend please consider.
Can you give details on your comments about setting the voltage on a wind turbine by how you connect it. ie: 12v, 24v, 48v, etc... etc... ??? I have 12v and 24v wind turbines and I'd like to set up co-working systems using the same 24v or 48v systems. I need to understand what you said about how to connect them to have this capability.
I have a question. Using Chaos as the example. When you pull the arm down to run, in my mind the energy would be running back up your green (10 AWG) wire back to the resistors, and also down the black wire (your 8 AWG) wire. If arm is up, it's on load the current runs up the wires through the resistors via your green wires, and back to your black wires and feeds the system via the load, so why when you put arm down on RUN will it not run back up to the resistors (down the black wires and also up the green wires). I'm struggling to understand why it wouldn't be running back up the line back to the resistors. Do you have something at the junction in your diagram the little rectangle where your brake switches connects to, is that a breaker that prevents the current flow from running back to reach the resistors?
Power from the turbines three phase comes into the center lugs of the knife switch, pulling the knives blades down engages it to the rectifier below which converts it to DC for charging to the batteries. By pushing it up it sends the power up through the green wires through the resistors and back down to the terminals at the bottom of the night switch which and then run to the rectifier. The actual effect of this is to choke off the wattage and amperage so that you're not overheating your rectifiers and a benefit result is it places a constant load on your turbine so that it slows its ability to have a runaway effect and high winds. I designed this many years ago and now it seems like the Chinese are making controllers that do this with an automated function based on my exact design strange enough. So much for them being good at anything other than stealing.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 I understand all this, what is that blue rectangle in your diagram above the break where the green wires go to. This will clarify everything for me. Thank you for taking the time in answering I really appeciate it.
How do you control the voltage that is going into your battery bank? If the battery bank is full, the system has to stop charging. Another thing is at what voltage is the battery bank being charged? If the turbine is spinning it will produce X Volts, from the specs I can see that wind turbines can be sitting between 0 and 200V. If the turbine is spinning at max and producing say 200V that is going into the rectifier, how much DC Volatge is coming out of it to the battery bank? Thanks
You divert excess after full charge into resistors so the turbine continues to spin and the battery is at a safe charge. No matter what the turbine puts out, on the DC side, the battery acts as a regulator to keep the voltage down as long as your battery capacity ( amount of Amp Hours capable ) is sufficient. Example: 250 watts of wind turbine per 100 AH of battery is a basic rule of thumb.
is there anyway to repair a turbine that has been taken out of its cast? all coal blocks for sliprings are dismounted and bearing are worn... Windbaron turbine...
Resistors stay the same load no matter how much your have them on, but a water heating element draws high amps in clod water, and lower amps as the hotter water matches the temp of the element. So if you in a wind storm, and the water is cold, you have great diversion, full draw like 300 watts, then as the water heats you may end up only with 250 watts of diversion which may cause over charge of your battery. Adding more element wattage may damage your charge to overcome this, that is why I size based on total turbine peaks using resistors.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 amazing, thank you I hadn't thought about how the change in water temp could effect current draw. Also can you have too much battery storage for a micro turbine ? Ie if you have a massive bank of batteries with low charge and just a small turbine can there be too much draw and it acts like a brake for the turbine ?
do you have any video on how to hook wind turbines into the grid without using batteries? And if you are hooked into the grid do you still need a dump load?
I avoid wind turbines involved into the grid system, never will pay off due to all the issues involved unless your over 20,000 watts of turbine input which gets you a license as a energy dealer, and the taxes to go with it.
Hi! Great video! I've learnt loads from your videos on wind turbines and storm brakes. Now it all makes sense 👍 I have only one question regarding the resistors. I have a 12volt turbine rated at 420w. Peak output at 14.5m/s. What resistors would you recommend to restrict the turbine to say 30%. This set up is being installed on a yacht which will put it in the path of some seriously high winds. Thanks in advance for the help.
That's common sense and straight forward. This is the best way to do this and very smart and saves your turbines. VERY SMART MAN I like your brakes much more then them other guys. I asked them about their brake setup and why a dead short this burns windings and all kinds of shit. So why that way and they say this is the best way and well being in electronics repair for most of my life I know better. John is right this is a much better way of doing things.
john i got a question for you .. do i need a charge controller for the wind turbine ..or can this power go strait to my battery setup with solar i have..
You need a diversion controller to divert into resistors, hot water elements, blowers, or some form of charge management. Like a car engines alternator stops charging full power but the engine keeps running when the battery is full. If you want a parts list to a quick build, send me a Email and I will put you a full sourcing and diagram in response. olympicpowercontrols@yahoo.com You have to include turbine type, watts, how many, your average winds, and any other info to size correctly.
Excellent update, explanation and diagram. Well done and sincere thanks for creating the design and for sharing it freely. I'm in Europe and have all the parts you recommended now, plus the Chinese turbine. I'm looking forward to installing it. Ideally I want to include a couple of 340W solar panels in the setup. Have you come across a good charge controller that can handle Both wind And solar? Thanks again for your information and enthusiasm!!
Wow! Thank you, John! I've been looking forward to this video since you mentioned it a couple months ago. It's simple, but yet, a really complicated system, but that's just because I'm new. I'm using one of those hybrid controllers from your link just because it's easier for someone like me and I only have one turbine. You had said that you do it the way you do because you run multiple turbines. Can you explain a little bit about why that is better for multiple turbines? I had hoped to get another one but I live in a fifth wheel so I don't have the kind of room for wiring and components that you have. Is there any reason that I shouldn't just grab a second hybrid controller for a second turbine? On paper, they seem to have backfeed protection so in my mind it shouldn't matter. But then if it didn't matter, you wouldn't be doing it the way you do so something must matter. Now, I have no doubt that your system would be way more reliable because the parts you use are rated way higher than you're actually putting out. So I get that part. But what else is there?
Hi John great work are you really interested about your work and keep on I wonder if you can put the latest diagram for the solar system specially diversion controller schematic and how finally connected with resistors
i got the same 500w wind turbine i bought it from (B&C wind generator Store on Aliexpress ) tomorrow i will install it on my roof. but i got the (SF-12-24-A) charge controller i don't see you use these,why? is it bad?
Wish we had the Room you have to work with like your shop. Living in a mobile home is like living in a submarine. Finally after years of negotiating Wicked Wanda the Wonder Wife agree's we need a shed. LOL Leveling ground next to the home for a 8 x 10 metal shed. Need to insulate it in order to be usable. Gets flipping Toasty here in Southern New Mexico don't ya know. At last I'll have some fashions of a work bench. Considering adding a Standard 19 inch Equipment Rack to house my system and batteries.
Where at in New Mexico? I head though there often, mainly around Carlsbad. If you get a metal shed, grab you some base plate for 2x4 metal studs to beef it up.
Hi, great video, I have a thermodyne 48v dual core wind turbine, connected to grid tie inverter (ginlong). I need to program a power curve into it as the dc volts come straight off the rectifier to the inverter. Can you offer any advice on where to start, I.e 50v -30w, 100v - 150w etc, is there any way to work this calculation out?? Many thanks in advance
You have to just find a method to divert in a active load process all power exceeding 90% of the inverter. If its max is 100 volts, you need a way to load the turbine down at 90 volts to stop its peaks but allow all to 90 volts to pass through.
You should turn the brake on during a lull in the wind if possible, you can leave it on for a long period of time but not to exceed 10 to 12 hours per session or you'll cause some magnet energy loss over a period of time.
A real 4200 Watt turbine is massive, 65 kilos and over 3.5 meter blade circumference. It should have a controller that is 5 kilos heavy and already equipped with a proper braking system.
Great video John, answered a lot of questions for me, but I have one remaining. When you put the turbine under the load/breaking, does this slow down the RPM of the blades on the turbine in a strong wind or just ensure that the coils don't burn out? I'm wondering how to stop the turbine spinning beyond it's rated RPM just for physical safety.
Loaded breaking slows it's overspin activity and knocks 20% off it's top rpm at wind speed. Breaking via shorting controls it to 95% and produces no power.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 I am struggling to understand how it slows/brakes. When the brake is applied, the turbine detects a “short”, but does it have an automatic brake that gets engaged in the turbine or is it that the magnetic field is disrupted? If it’s the magnets then 1- how can the little magnets in the Chinese ~400 w turbine stop it from spinning? 2- how do the magnets do anything with an AC current? Sorry if these are basic and dumb questions I am just leaning about wind power but don’t have much experience with electrical systems. Solar was much easier to understand lol
Thanks for this great information! I have setup the same system as your diagram, and i have few question for you: 1: Does the wind turbine slow down when you apply the loaded brake? (i ask because on my side, when i apply the loaded brake, i dont see any difference in the rotation speed) 2: If you need full brake, when did you apply the two full brake switch? When you are on "loaded" or "normal" mode? 3: Last question: Is there any situation when you can apply only one of the two full brake switch? Thanks for your help! -Pascal
The turbine under running brake stops surging out of control. Reduces run away chances. Stops the excess heat from the turbines windings. You can apply brakes on either function, softer loading will occur when passing through resistors allowing you to reduce blade breakage chances since they will still turn enough to prevent damage. Never use one side of brake switch always pull both so you do not damage slip rings in turbine. J.
John great video as always , I have been following you now for years , I took the plunge this year and put up 2 48v 800w wind turbines and I wired them to 2 bridge rectifiers and one charge controller , however when I did this one of the wind turbines just stopped spinning ? Do you know what I have done wrong ??
They are reacting to each other and providing double the voltage the controller is reading or you have a bad bridge rectifier that's acting like a electric shorting brake. Turbines should always be ran independently from the turbine through the rectifier to the battery if you're going to use a diversion control, or independently per controller that you would be using.
Hey John, I picked up one of your 400w turbines you had in another of your videos and got a 600w grid tie inverter. Going to use the system on my garage since it has its own meter and that’s where I charge my wife’s Pacifica Hybrid. Would I need a brake system like this when using a grid tie inverter since it will be putting a load on the turbine 24/7?
2200 watt turbine is very large, 90 lbs and over 9 foot diameter blades so that's a lot of torque, i recommend minimum 12 to 15 ohm @ 600 watt X 3 for those.
great stuff, this is what I have been trying to figure out, as I have 5 &10 & 20 footers, china alecko types, like them. original controllers failed, brake systems were just short circuit. the derecho here are about once a year, but deadly. guess I can keep adding resistors until it slows enough for short circuit. need mechanical disc brake on 20 ft generator also, 10 ft no need. would donate to channel if used paypal. really like the new boost controllers from china. thanks again, keep it up !
Hi ya John, Thanks for putting a bit of your knowledge on the net. You have just given my turbine another life with its controller from been down for over a year. My SomaTurbine had run for over 20 years, on its third blade setup, before the controller did itself in. Quick question I have is implementing your safety system into my set up (seriously great idea, have always been uncomfortable with this switching) I cannot work out the ohms thing for the life of me. 24volt 3phase 1200watt 50amp. Can you please tell me what resister size per phase? Regards New Zealand
Three 10 ohm per leg. 2 side by side in parallel then from them to one in line following before your rectifier. 9 total. New Zealand winds can be brutal. You can add a bypass switch to one or another as mid resistance loading if you like too. Use wire wound not aluminum cased.
I bought a new 400 watt wind turbine generator kit and for some reason it's hard to turn the blades by hand. Do you know why this is happening? I just put it together yesterday and discovered the issue. Thanks
Thank you for the scheme,and well explained setup. One thing still bugs me a lot, batteries, i saw what you think on lead acid -> LiFo and i think you are right on that, but did you try LiTiO batteries? They kinda seem perfect for wind turbines + solar combo, i like the number of cycles they provide and safety about them. Did you ever try one or few of these (Not b class)? Thanks again.
We prefer as Solar Installers to use Lithium Titanate Oxide and we have been approved to use them in solar for cell towers, not LiFePo ruclips.net/video/v8EBI-N0KTk/видео.html
Looking at some of your other videos, I wonder why you chose 12 volts for your system voltage, given the total PV/wind wattage and number of batteries in your system (8 parallel strings from what I can see in your videos). Is there a particular high-amperage 12 volt DC appliance on your system? I was looking at some of those B-Creation turbines that you linked on Ali-Express, and noticed they offered a 380 volt 2 kW model. My dream off-grid system would use one of these, 14 24-volt PV panels in series, connected (through appropriate charge controllers) to a battery bank at 336 volts centre-grounded. This would be the right voltage to feed a transformerless inverter to produce a 240 volt split-phase output.
In a world catastrophe a 12 volt system is the safest way to run. I know it's a lot of amperage but if you do the battery system like I do and seen in some of my videos you might see it's not that much more expensive and if there is a collapse of our economy or something in that neighborhood I can survive with parts from anywhere while other people who are higher voltage would struggle to even find a replacement part.
Hi John, my name is Jasper. I'm very new to wind turbines. After watching a couple of your previous videos, I recently purchased the Chinese 500 watt turbine linked to your other videos. I'm familiar with solar as I currently live off grid. Anyway, in the beginning of this video it mentions I could contact you for a more detailed schematic of the braking system. Plus, what type/brand of charge controller should I buy or do even need one? Thanks for the education Sir.
Send me a email to olympicpowercontrols@yahoo.com and I'll send you some drawings of items and wiring. If you want the parts list I can send it too for what you got, just note the voltage of the system your working with.
I have been watching most all your videos, and you have some great content! I am looking to install a windmill on my property and I would like to just use a grid tie inverter. Do I need a “breaking” load if I’m not using batteries or is the grid tie inverter enough?
If you get the 800 watt turbine in 24 volt they have a optional 1000 watt grid tie with built in load controls to divert plus stop spikes and temper the input with chokes. It works very well.
Thank you very much for your wonderful and very clear lecture.Some how I have an experince on solar energy..After I saw your chanel, ofcourse i decided to enter in this section of energy.But I have still a confusion.What does it mean all that in case of high wind situations?No problem at all?or that is another problem?If it is another topic, so how to control the maximum revolution of the turbine? greetings from Germany!
How many 100w solar panels do I need to charge 7 deep cycle Ever Smart 29D Walmart batteries? And my other question is if I was using a battery charger how many amps would I need to charge them ?
14 of the 100 watt, (15 amps max, 11.5 constant per set of 2) would be normal. For a battery charger charging them as a group since you can go 24 hours straight that would be about 7 batteries in parallel @ 40 amp continuous @ 24 HOURS. Absolute numbers really have to be varying on your use from them in that period of time too.
@@rontech34 I would probably get 15, 3 strings of 5 into three 40 amp MPPT controllers. Pay attention to the ones claimed as MPPT, many are not. MPPT will make your investment make 22% more power per dollar. For a good MPPT you have to pay the cost and ignore the fake labeled ones. 15 of the good 100 watt panels at about $75 each and 3 of the 40 amp MPPT's at about $135 each will make you a good system with a 3000 watt pure sine inverter at about $380 to $450 total on them. Total 1.5kw power over 3kw 120v inverted system cost with wiring may run you $2200 plus those batteries of about $720 more ( $3000 in all ) If you need a parts list of what best is most effective let me know, it's a common size for preppers and off grid cabin builders I install.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 I already have the batteries I already have 2 100w mighty max panels they was $74 and they are pretty good to me but going to get more and I have 1 ever mppt 40a controller I will get 2 more I just need to get inverter if you can tell me what kind to get as far as brand name
Brothaman when you get free time LOL help your fellow man-kind and make a video series on solar and wind how-too , as soon as I get a break I'll send you a new tool I made - please do a video on it if you feel its worth while.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 exactly I havent used facebook and dont really do social media - no time fro drama / bs but I started a facebook page thingy - Watt You Need . I'll be posting a few videos on there soon . ( I need to do more research on how FB works and ) etc
why not for emergency shut down, flip the main 100 amp SW to the resistive load, that seem to have knocked the amps down to 1.5 amp then apply the two breaks.
Love the videos man, you seem pretty knowledgeable about this stuff... maybe you can tell me what I need for my project.. I'm currently building a hoverboard turbine, and I need to know exactly what units I need to get, charge controller etc... this is a test run, so eventually I will get the real deal like you have and would like to use the same components.. I watch you videos everyday, but a th I'll cant make my mind up on what to get.. Help me out man.. please and thankyou..
It is because the rectifier represents the highest resistive load against the incoming power and that's where you need your fuses because that's where it's most likely to burn a wire, terminal, or a short would occur.
Hey John I really need ur help with my my system it's a 24v system .But my inverter is constantly dropping understand 24v sometimes it drop to 20v. Can you plz help me out I want to email you some pictures. So you can have a better understanding
First off, thanks for cutting thru the BS and throwing real, working solutions out here for us. Been studying yourvideos for a while now, but had a question: while the manual braking systems are fantastically designed, what happens if you arent around to engage the braking systems when needed? Is there an automatic solution somewhere i am missing?
You can make a automatic safety brake using a much more complicated system like I created in some remote installs I did. It will require a wind pressure trip switch, a pair of latching relays and some work. But it can be done.
TOTAL PARTS LIST (must hit SHOW MORE or ▼ on phones) Best way to safely run one or many wind turbines at once with your solar and other incoming power sources, here's the requested sources. 400 to 800 watt turbines operating as multiples or just one. FULL LIST is under the video, anything else you having trouble finding or broken links let me know.
John, is there a way to get hold of you other than the RUclips comments? I have a few question.
@@xsbiggy6349 Scroll down in the info and links below the video, my shop e-mail is in there towards the bottom in the NOTES section. @yahoo
Fantastic to see all this integrated in a full system context @JohnDaniel. Also, GREAT progress on your system relocation/rewire. My question is on "PARKING Procedure"??
You loaded the PMA down for "Brake Switch" parking with your 100A DC load box on the rectified side of the circuit prior to popping the brake switches... Can one SAFELY throw the same brake switches if loaded on the AC side when the AC-Series'd resistors are engaged??
And, is there EVER a scenario when you'd ONLY ENGAGE a SINGLE brake switch??
I have yet to check the latest parts list and hoping you share your brake switch source.
Again, thanks for laying all this our in comprehensive and integrated manner so we can all see the entire picture. I have the confidence now to integrate the turbine and solar together using this turbine management strategy. As I mentioned in another video post, I'm going to build my diversion controller bottom up and attempt to use "Ideal Diode / Form C" SSR's for my diversion, resulting in what should be a fully isolated diversion load (from PMA and Battery pack)
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How are you?dear,I have n’t heard from you for a long time and I am very disappointed.
I previously told you that the product video needs to be online within one month. You said that it takes 3-4 weeks to complete, but it has been several months.,I still have not received your reply. If you encounter any problems, please let me know.
Looking forward to hearing from you!
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John, would it be feasible to add a automatic braking system ? I am concerned that if I am gone the turbine will destroy itself.
That was the best lay out and explanation I've seeing. Must be a Pro Engineer! and a good teacher!
The video your subscribers have been waiting for. We knew it was coming. Thanks, John! Great work, as always.
Agree... I've also been waiting for this
Thanks. I dump all my excess wind and solar energy into a series of electric water heater and store it in the form of hot water. We haven't had to directly heat water in several years. Thanks for the vid.
You need to make a video...😬
I cant wait to afford one of these. My wife has my leash short after the solar offgrid install. 30k cost off the grid 48 batts 7200 ah total, two sunny island 48v, 4 midnite chargers, gas dryer and gas generator, 50 solar panels. all done my self with some help here and their but I need to one day install two turbines or even one good one for the night time loads. My whole point is to not use the batts at all and just stay on float. I may need some help from John someday here. Thanks for the help and vids John for your time.
@JohnDaniel - My question is on "PARKING Procedure"??
You loaded the PMA down for "Brake Switch" parking with your 100A DC load box on the rectified side of the circuit prior to popping the brake switches... Can one SAFELY throw the same brake switches if loaded on the AC side when the AC-Series'd resistors are engaged??
And, is there EVER a scenario when you'd ONLY ENGAGE a SINGLE brake switch??
I have yet to check the latest parts list and hoping you share your brake switch source.
This man know his shit I have complete faith in him and I will always go by what he has got to say ty for all yr help
Good information again and know-how. Question, in the event that your not around during the wind/storm and no one is around, have you thought about a way to automatically throw the switch and brakes?
All your explanation is just great, but you need to think, as you go through all of it, of people who don't know anything about it, so to make clearer... Just a thought! Thank you for letting us have a better understanding of how wind turbines work!
makes perfect sense to me, it wouldn't be much fun having a nice turbine burn out. very helpful info for those learning and learning the right way.
I am very thankful to my GOD that you know what you are doing!!!! I am 60 years old and always wanted to know about how to hook up a great system like yours! Just in the middle of a divorce and going to be living in my 1973 Chevy truck with 2 some D8 tractor batteries that are used. And 7 25 watt harbor Freight Solar panels. When i can Lord's willing i want a wind turbine. I have some welding tools and wood tools in a trailer. I am a VETERAN and they are looking for a place for me to live.
I think about using a geyser element to use power when batteries is fully charged.Instead of letting the power going to waist.
Is it possible to do.On 3phase use 3x single elements.?
Anton South Africa
the best sharing videos so far. Most just don't present it that clear or intentionally hiding details where matters.
John Daniel,
Please let me know the best input 12v/24v/48v DC CURRENT to 220v -240v/20A/@6500-watt AC Current peak inverter; for a deep water well pump? I don't see one on your parts list. Thanks for your response.
I am building my first turbine and this video was for the advance but very well broken down for a beginner to understand.
More recent videos on my channel show more. Hurricane wind turbine build - for example.
When i get a home will you design a system with wind and solar for me?
How would you use 24v lead acid battery as slave battery to charge lipo4 8 string battery at 28.4v? I have a 3000w 24v all-in one system, I love it. Just would like to all a good wind turbine. Parts and set up???
instead of the load resistors can I hook to a water heater?
I don't know how you can keep track im going to keep watching all your videos they are great
I have 2 1200 watt 48 volt wind turbines. I want to use them in conjunction with my solar panels. I need to know what all I need to set them up like a brake switch can you help
whats a diversion controller? wheres that schematic? is that for when the batterys are full and need the power to go to another set of resistors? thanks in advances
This is very interesting
Will join yoir channel. Can you make more videos please. Teacher. Explaining everything one thing at a time
Looking at the schematic at 14:48, why do you use a double-throw switch on the input from the turbine instead of a simple triple-pole switch between "Input from Turbine" and "RUN to Rectifier", connecting the "Input From Turbine" directly to the "Loaded Down Safe Run" on the same side of said simple switch? I would think a single switch would be sufficient as it would provide a zero-ohm bypass of the resistors when closed (meaning these resistors would have none to microamperes of current when bypassed) and force the power to go through the resistors when opened. I would think that that would have the added benefit of being able to replace the switch with a 3-pole AC breaker (50 amps in your 12-volt example) that would trip at 600 watts and engage the resistive load automatically if the turbine produced an excess of power.
This is a great idea.
love john daniel. always say the real thing
Wow!! Very complete, very clear! What a great installation. Thanks for the video John!
Great, no nonsense advice as always. Can I use a dc water heating element as a resistive load? Would like to get as much out of my power as possible. Best wishes from England from Rich
I am also very interested in the topic. As all this renewable energy cost a lot of money to produce AND it just does not make any sense to me to burn off any access as useless heat. Heating water seems to be the ideal because of efficient thermal storage as also a high consumption every day. So there are 2 situations that come to my mind.
Nº1 is the situation when the batteries are simply full.
In any well designed system this happens almost every day and a lot of watts get wasted
BUT THE EXPERTS SEEM NOT TO BE INTERESTED
Nº2 when an up normal high energy production occurs in form of climatic extremes
That´s when a component is forced close or over it´s rated capacity and needs protection
AND THE BEST THE EXPERTS COME UP WITH IS SOME STUPID RESISTORS ?????
Be watching soon on a hybrid system that answer the #1 question and answers it with my SUNSHINE AT NIGHT hybrid.
Hi John an off topic question what would you go with in a low wind situation i.e the UK. Would you use a 12 volt or 24 volt turbine to charge 12 volt batteries via a controller as a 12 volt might not produce the voltage required to charge the 12 volt batteries at the wind speed we get here or would I be sacrificing Amps with a 24 volt turbine. cheers
it does make sense. the only drawback is that it's completely manual... and I'm looking for some simple automation, which is not the case here.
That is Excellent Sir. Is there a way to make the Break system autonomous for times when I'm away from home ?
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Looking good buddy! Glad you made the schematic. Had a few people asking me to draw one up but I didn't feel rite doing it as it is your design. I'll send them your way. Wish I would see clean enough wind to need this awesome fly and brake system.... but hey, it sure looks pretty. 😉
Outstanding Video Sir. Question please . WHAT DO I DO IF I'M AWAY FROM HOME AND A STORM COMES ?
I'm working on a design soon as I get enough money built up to show people how to make it an automated braking system.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 I'm very interested in the automated breaking system. Let me know if I can donate a few bucks. I'm only an aircraft mechanic but I would be happy to help you with that project.
Anything helps. My income dropped from over 40k a year to less than 15k a year due to White House Brandon. Hard to raise 4 kids on and keep up the energy program. Anyone can use buymeacoffee.com/JOHNDANIEL
John can you answer a question .if your inverters are putting load on batteries does that put brakes on turbine?
Great work, looks good, only question, what do you do when your not home and a storm picks up ??
Luckily we have forecast and I have a household with 7 more here who now can work with the system.
Hey mate Aussie Simon here again. Now I'm rewatching this video, and hopefully links to parts still work because this is the good stuff I was asking you for. Cheers
If you need more help just send me an email, olympicpowercontrols@yahoo.com
@@JOHNDANIEL1 Will do thanks heaps for being so willing to help. We too are governed my a bunch of politely incompetent dickheads. Have you seen the Gas crisis on the East Coast of Aust at present . I spent 25 years as an Engineer working in Gas processing, offshore onshore LNG plants. Our smart arse politicians have NEVER told the big gas producers (Chevron, ConocPhillips, etc) to hold mandatory reserves for the eastern board of this country, so they have continued to export LNG at a phenomenal rate (I know I was 2IC for Concophillips Darwin LNG plant for years) and now we have a perfect storm. Many coal fired power stations are down for routine maintenance, bugger all wind and sun at present and a intense cold polar snap from Antarctica. We have very low gas generation but massive demand, prices have increased 300% + including electricity prices of course. But the massive export trains up in Queensland are still shipping literally millions of tonnes of LNG offshore (in Darwin NT we shipped a cargo every 5 days at 150,000 tones of LNG per ship at a lazy 55 million a cargo!) , Japan, etc who have GSA .. long term gas sales agreements. Our grubberments are just F**king fools, and the Oil & Gas shareholders are lining their pockets. In fact I own some shares from previous employment bonuses. My Conocophillips shares have gone from $35 to $122 today, + USD to AUD exchange rate, happy days, I'll buy a few more turbines and future proof my family and energy. West Australia who have even more gas than the East future proofed themselves decades ago against this crisis and thus have very adequate gas reserves aside from export. I hate the East of Aussie, full of no it all big knobs that just need a 12 gauge slug.
I wonder what they would think if we all got together, about a billion of us in all our money and resources, and did a reverse migration to Africa, the human origin, and took the whole damn continent over. Wouldn't take long before they all starve to death when we left.
Makes perfect sense! And the brakes...simply brilliant.
I need to poke around this channel some to find what you use to dump power into when the batteries are fully charged...hot water?
And the circuitry for that- is it automated?
I live off grid and with battery packs but in the uk you can't buy a 5 pin fuse box can u tell me what would work just as good plz
I am having trouble finding a 12v dc fan to cool off my rectifier. come to find out it is rated to 13.2 volts and I fry it. Could you share a link to the ones you recommend? Thanks
Would be okay if I wanted to come work with you for a weekend to expand my knowledge of installing a small of grid wind turbine? I'll be going overseas this December and I'm wanting to do an off grid set up for a place I have in the world.
I'm barely in one place very long. And no schedule besides seat of the pants 😂
Thank you John I got my copy and solar wind schematic too. You are amazing knowing just 8 years ago you almost died and was crippled up some from a stroke. Your the third person I know this has happened to. MRSA is deadly, You said it was caused by MRSA virus years ago on your cattle trucker job, I read thats common so be careful with cows. We have moved back to the states, I hope you do another prepper solar class this year, we want to attend please consider.
Thanks John.
Here I was thinking solar was a PITA
Can you give details on your comments about setting the voltage on a wind turbine by how you connect it. ie: 12v, 24v, 48v, etc... etc... ???
I have 12v and 24v wind turbines and I'd like to set up co-working systems using the same 24v or 48v systems.
I need to understand what you said about how to connect them to have this capability.
How does the braking system work? Is it a mechanical brake or does it like short it and put a load on the turbine so great that it just won’t turn.
Dual staging is my system but most use magnetic braking by shorting the 3 phases
I have a question. Using Chaos as the example. When you pull the arm down to run, in my mind the energy would be running back up your green (10 AWG) wire back to the resistors, and also down the black wire (your 8 AWG) wire. If arm is up, it's on load the current runs up the wires through the resistors via your green wires, and back to your black wires and feeds the system via the load, so why when you put arm down on RUN will it not run back up to the resistors (down the black wires and also up the green wires). I'm struggling to understand why it wouldn't be running back up the line back to the resistors. Do you have something at the junction in your diagram the little rectangle where your brake switches connects to, is that a breaker that prevents the current flow from running back to reach the resistors?
Power from the turbines three phase comes into the center lugs of the knife switch, pulling the knives blades down engages it to the rectifier below which converts it to DC for charging to the batteries. By pushing it up it sends the power up through the green wires through the resistors and back down to the terminals at the bottom of the night switch which and then run to the rectifier. The actual effect of this is to choke off the wattage and amperage so that you're not overheating your rectifiers and a benefit result is it places a constant load on your turbine so that it slows its ability to have a runaway effect and high winds. I designed this many years ago and now it seems like the Chinese are making controllers that do this with an automated function based on my exact design strange enough. So much for them being good at anything other than stealing.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 I understand all this, what is that blue rectangle in your diagram above the break where the green wires go to. This will clarify everything for me. Thank you for taking the time in answering I really appeciate it.
How do you control the voltage that is going into your battery bank? If the battery bank is full, the system has to stop charging. Another thing is at what voltage is the battery bank being charged? If the turbine is spinning it will produce X Volts, from the specs I can see that wind turbines can be sitting between 0 and 200V. If the turbine is spinning at max and producing say 200V that is going into the rectifier, how much DC Volatge is coming out of it to the battery bank? Thanks
You divert excess after full charge into resistors so the turbine continues to spin and the battery is at a safe charge. No matter what the turbine puts out, on the DC side, the battery acts as a regulator to keep the voltage down as long as your battery capacity ( amount of Amp Hours capable ) is sufficient. Example: 250 watts of wind turbine per 100 AH of battery is a basic rule of thumb.
is there anyway to repair a turbine that has been taken out of its cast? all coal blocks for sliprings are dismounted and bearing are worn... Windbaron turbine...
Would it be possible to automate this breaking system with SSR’s?
Excellent video!
So glad I found this!
Id love to copy it
Like your posts could you please supply me a link to purchase one of your wind turbine regulator with day night switch included.
Is there a difference between using resistors like yours or just hooking up an immersion heater or similar to dump the load ?
Resistors stay the same load no matter how much your have them on, but a water heating element draws high amps in clod water, and lower amps as the hotter water matches the temp of the element. So if you in a wind storm, and the water is cold, you have great diversion, full draw like 300 watts, then as the water heats you may end up only with 250 watts of diversion which may cause over charge of your battery. Adding more element wattage may damage your charge to overcome this, that is why I size based on total turbine peaks using resistors.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 amazing, thank you I hadn't thought about how the change in water temp could effect current draw. Also can you have too much battery storage for a micro turbine ? Ie if you have a massive bank of batteries with low charge and just a small turbine can there be too much draw and it acts like a brake for the turbine ?
Also awesome videos by the way 👍
@john daniel, any suggestions how to read the RPMs from a wild-ac turbine using the rectifier?
do you have any video on how to hook wind turbines into the grid without using batteries? And if you are hooked into the grid do you still need a dump load?
I avoid wind turbines involved into the grid system, never will pay off due to all the issues involved unless your over 20,000 watts of turbine input which gets you a license as a energy dealer, and the taxes to go with it.
Hi! Great video! I've learnt loads from your videos on wind turbines and storm brakes. Now it all makes sense 👍
I have only one question regarding the resistors. I have a 12volt turbine rated at 420w. Peak output at 14.5m/s. What resistors would you recommend to restrict the turbine to say 30%. This set up is being installed on a yacht which will put it in the path of some seriously high winds.
Thanks in advance for the help.
Hey, could that be what’s happening to these big turbines causing them to burn up?
Dear john first love your video's . How can i contact you for some questions
That's common sense and straight forward. This is the best way to do this and very smart and saves your turbines. VERY SMART MAN I like your brakes much more then them other guys. I asked them about their brake setup and why a dead short this burns windings and all kinds of shit. So why that way and they say this is the best way and well being in electronics repair for most of my life I know better. John is right this is a much better way of doing things.
Good work..keep it up..I love the way that you explain what we must do and how..
You guys are so interesting to watch.
john i got a question for you .. do i need a charge controller for the wind turbine ..or can this power go strait to my battery setup with solar i have..
You need a diversion controller to divert into resistors, hot water elements, blowers, or some form of charge management. Like a car engines alternator stops charging full power but the engine keeps running when the battery is full. If you want a parts list to a quick build, send me a Email and I will put you a full sourcing and diagram in response. olympicpowercontrols@yahoo.com
You have to include turbine type, watts, how many, your average winds, and any other info to size correctly.
Excellent update, explanation and diagram. Well done and sincere thanks for creating the design and for sharing it freely. I'm in Europe and have all the parts you recommended now, plus the Chinese turbine. I'm looking forward to installing it. Ideally I want to include a couple of 340W solar panels in the setup. Have you come across a good charge controller that can handle Both wind And solar? Thanks again for your information and enthusiasm!!
Wow! Thank you, John! I've been looking forward to this video since you mentioned it a couple months ago. It's simple, but yet, a really complicated system, but that's just because I'm new. I'm using one of those hybrid controllers from your link just because it's easier for someone like me and I only have one turbine. You had said that you do it the way you do because you run multiple turbines. Can you explain a little bit about why that is better for multiple turbines? I had hoped to get another one but I live in a fifth wheel so I don't have the kind of room for wiring and components that you have. Is there any reason that I shouldn't just grab a second hybrid controller for a second turbine? On paper, they seem to have backfeed protection so in my mind it shouldn't matter. But then if it didn't matter, you wouldn't be doing it the way you do so something must matter. Now, I have no doubt that your system would be way more reliable because the parts you use are rated way higher than you're actually putting out. So I get that part. But what else is there?
Hi John great work are you really interested about your work and keep on I wonder if you can put the latest diagram for the solar system specially diversion controller schematic and how finally connected with resistors
i got the same 500w wind turbine i bought it from (B&C wind generator Store on Aliexpress ) tomorrow i will install it on my roof. but i got the (SF-12-24-A) charge controller i don't see you use these,why? is it bad?
Their controllers, all of them by everyone not just the one you have, simply don't play well with solar and if other turbines or in the game.
Be sure to give that turbine a few good heavy winds to break in well and then the output will be very high.
Wish we had the Room you have to work with like your shop. Living in a mobile home is like living in a submarine. Finally after years of negotiating Wicked Wanda the Wonder Wife agree's we need a shed. LOL Leveling ground next to the home for a 8 x 10 metal shed. Need to insulate it in order to be usable. Gets flipping Toasty here in Southern New Mexico don't ya know. At last I'll have some fashions of a work bench. Considering adding a Standard 19 inch Equipment Rack to house my system and batteries.
Where at in New Mexico? I head though there often, mainly around Carlsbad. If you get a metal shed, grab you some base plate for 2x4 metal studs to beef it up.
You have plenty of room. LOL I am living in a 25 ft camper an I am trying to design a system and put it somewhere. Good luck and stay safe.
Hi, great video, I have a thermodyne 48v dual core wind turbine, connected to grid tie inverter (ginlong). I need to program a power curve into it as the dc volts come straight off the rectifier to the inverter. Can you offer any advice on where to start, I.e 50v -30w, 100v - 150w etc, is there any way to work this calculation out?? Many thanks in advance
You have to just find a method to divert in a active load process all power exceeding 90% of the inverter. If its max is 100 volts, you need a way to load the turbine down at 90 volts to stop its peaks but allow all to 90 volts to pass through.
a couple of questions John. when should I turn the brake on and, how long can the system be in this state?
You should turn the brake on during a lull in the wind if possible, you can leave it on for a long period of time but not to exceed 10 to 12 hours per session or you'll cause some magnet energy loss over a period of time.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 thank you Sir, very helpful...
Dear sir, 4200w China wind turbine how to make the break controller if high wind .
A real 4200 Watt turbine is massive, 65 kilos and over 3.5 meter blade circumference. It should have a controller that is 5 kilos heavy and already equipped with a proper braking system.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 dear sir I think people cheat with me, because total wind turbine 6 kg only
Do these turbines have mechanical brakes?
no, magnetic
Great video John, answered a lot of questions for me, but I have one remaining. When you put the turbine under the load/breaking, does this slow down the RPM of the blades on the turbine in a strong wind or just ensure that the coils don't burn out? I'm wondering how to stop the turbine spinning beyond it's rated RPM just for physical safety.
Loaded breaking slows it's overspin activity and knocks 20% off it's top rpm at wind speed. Breaking via shorting controls it to 95% and produces no power.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 I am struggling to understand how it slows/brakes. When the brake is applied, the turbine detects a “short”, but does it have an automatic brake that gets engaged in the turbine or is it that the magnetic field is disrupted?
If it’s the magnets then 1- how can the little magnets in the Chinese ~400 w turbine stop it from spinning? 2- how do the magnets do anything with an AC current?
Sorry if these are basic and dumb questions I am just leaning about wind power but don’t have much experience with electrical systems. Solar was much easier to understand lol
Thanks for this great information! I have setup the same system as your diagram, and i have few question for you:
1: Does the wind turbine slow down when you apply the loaded brake? (i ask because on my side, when i apply the loaded brake, i dont see any difference in the rotation speed)
2: If you need full brake, when did you apply the two full brake switch? When you are on "loaded" or "normal" mode?
3: Last question: Is there any situation when you can apply only one of the two full brake switch?
Thanks for your help!
-Pascal
The turbine under running brake stops surging out of control. Reduces run away chances. Stops the excess heat from the turbines windings.
You can apply brakes on either function, softer loading will occur when passing through resistors allowing you to reduce blade breakage chances since they will still turn enough to prevent damage.
Never use one side of brake switch always pull both so you do not damage slip rings in turbine.
J.
John great video as always , I have been following you now for years , I took the plunge this year and put up 2 48v 800w wind turbines and I wired them to 2 bridge rectifiers and one charge controller , however when I did this one of the wind turbines just stopped spinning ? Do you know what I have done wrong ??
They are reacting to each other and providing double the voltage the controller is reading or you have a bad bridge rectifier that's acting like a electric shorting brake.
Turbines should always be ran independently from the turbine through the rectifier to the battery if you're going to use a diversion control, or independently per controller that you would be using.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 Thank you so much John, I will have another go at this , this weekend
Can I ask you about putting it through an electric hot water tank to take the extra load off the turbine John? Cheers brother love your videos 🙏 👍
Sure, just make it a max of 75% of your max turbine wattage so you never stall it and it'll work.
Thanks for the info, how hard would it be to get a hard copy of your schematic.
Send me a email to olympicpowercontrols@yahoo.com
It may take a while but I usually get to everyone.
Hey John, I picked up one of your 400w turbines you had in another of your videos and got a 600w grid tie inverter. Going to use the system on my garage since it has its own meter and that’s where I charge my wife’s Pacifica Hybrid. Would I need a brake system like this when using a grid tie inverter since it will be putting a load on the turbine 24/7?
Very nice john.
Thank you, sir!
What Ohm/Watt resistors do i need for 2200W 48v turbine to be sure ?
2200 watt turbine is very large, 90 lbs and over 9 foot diameter blades so that's a lot of torque, i recommend minimum 12 to 15 ohm @ 600 watt X 3 for those.
great stuff, this is what I have been trying to figure out, as I have 5 &10 & 20 footers, china alecko types, like them. original controllers failed, brake systems were just short circuit. the derecho here are about once a year, but deadly. guess I can keep adding resistors until it slows enough for short circuit. need mechanical disc brake on 20 ft generator also, 10 ft no need. would donate to channel if used paypal. really like the new boost controllers from china. thanks again, keep it up !
Hi ya John, Thanks for putting a bit of your knowledge on the net. You have just given my turbine another life with its controller from been down for over a year. My SomaTurbine had run for over 20 years, on its third blade setup, before the controller did itself in. Quick question I have is implementing your safety system into my set up (seriously great idea, have always been uncomfortable with this switching) I cannot work out the ohms thing for the life of me. 24volt 3phase 1200watt 50amp. Can you please tell me what resister size per phase? Regards New Zealand
Three 10 ohm per leg. 2 side by side in parallel then from them to one in line following before your rectifier. 9 total. New Zealand winds can be brutal. You can add a bypass switch to one or another as mid resistance loading if you like too. Use wire wound not aluminum cased.
Damn you are so Good! Thank for the Upload 🙏🏻
I bought a new 400 watt wind turbine generator kit and for some reason it's hard to turn the blades by hand. Do you know why this is happening? I just put it together yesterday and discovered the issue. Thanks
What model of turbine, Brand and a link to it if possible. Helps to know so I can tell you better info.
Thank you for the scheme,and well explained setup. One thing still bugs me a lot, batteries, i saw what you think on lead acid -> LiFo and i think you are right on that, but did you try LiTiO batteries? They kinda seem perfect for wind turbines + solar combo, i like the number of cycles they provide and safety about them. Did you ever try one or few of these (Not b class)?
Thanks again.
We prefer as Solar Installers to use Lithium Titanate Oxide and we have been approved to use them in solar for cell towers, not LiFePo ruclips.net/video/v8EBI-N0KTk/видео.html
Looking at some of your other videos, I wonder why you chose 12 volts for your system voltage, given the total PV/wind wattage and number of batteries in your system (8 parallel strings from what I can see in your videos). Is there a particular high-amperage 12 volt DC appliance on your system?
I was looking at some of those B-Creation turbines that you linked on Ali-Express, and noticed they offered a 380 volt 2 kW model. My dream off-grid system would use one of these, 14 24-volt PV panels in series, connected (through appropriate charge controllers) to a battery bank at 336 volts centre-grounded. This would be the right voltage to feed a transformerless inverter to produce a 240 volt split-phase output.
In a world catastrophe a 12 volt system is the safest way to run. I know it's a lot of amperage but if you do the battery system like I do and seen in some of my videos you might see it's not that much more expensive and if there is a collapse of our economy or something in that neighborhood I can survive with parts from anywhere while other people who are higher voltage would struggle to even find a replacement part.
Can you show a video on grounding a wind turbine from lightning? I just got my first turbine today
Hi Mr John, what more can I say, am shore all will agree with me, that you're the man with the plan, please keep more on wind turbine coming, thanks
Hi John, my name is Jasper. I'm very new to wind turbines. After watching a couple of your previous videos, I recently purchased the Chinese 500 watt turbine linked to your other videos. I'm familiar with solar as I currently live off grid. Anyway, in the beginning of this video it mentions I could contact you for a more detailed schematic of the braking system. Plus, what type/brand of charge controller should I buy or do even need one? Thanks for the education Sir.
Send me a email to olympicpowercontrols@yahoo.com and I'll send you some drawings of items and wiring. If you want the parts list I can send it too for what you got, just note the voltage of the system your working with.
I have been watching most all your videos, and you have some great content! I am looking to install a windmill on my property and I would like to just use a grid tie inverter. Do I need a “breaking” load if I’m not using batteries or is the grid tie inverter enough?
If you get the 800 watt turbine in 24 volt they have a optional 1000 watt grid tie with built in load controls to divert plus stop spikes and temper the input with chokes. It works very well.
Јоhn Daniel Thank you.
Thank you very much for your wonderful and very clear lecture.Some how I have an experince on solar energy..After I saw your chanel, ofcourse i decided to enter in this section of energy.But I have still a confusion.What does it mean all that in case of high wind situations?No problem at all?or that is another problem?If it is another topic, so how to control the maximum revolution of the turbine? greetings from Germany!
High wind storms can cause over power of turbine. Using brake or power loading can make it run safe.
How many 100w solar panels do I need to charge 7 deep cycle Ever Smart 29D Walmart batteries? And my other question is if I was using a battery charger how many amps would I need to charge them ?
14 of the 100 watt, (15 amps max, 11.5 constant per set of 2) would be normal. For a battery charger charging them as a group since you can go 24 hours straight that would be about 7 batteries in parallel @ 40 amp continuous @ 24 HOURS. Absolute numbers really have to be varying on your use from them in that period of time too.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 so I need 14 100w panels I have them running positive to positive and negative to negative all tied together for my battery bank
@@rontech34 I would probably get 15, 3 strings of 5 into three 40 amp MPPT controllers. Pay attention to the ones claimed as MPPT, many are not. MPPT will make your investment make 22% more power per dollar. For a good MPPT you have to pay the cost and ignore the fake labeled ones. 15 of the good 100 watt panels at about $75 each and 3 of the 40 amp MPPT's at about $135 each will make you a good system with a 3000 watt pure sine inverter at about $380 to $450 total on them. Total 1.5kw power over 3kw 120v inverted system cost with wiring may run you $2200 plus those batteries of about $720 more ( $3000 in all ) If you need a parts list of what best is most effective let me know, it's a common size for preppers and off grid cabin builders I install.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 I already have the batteries I already have 2 100w mighty max panels they was $74 and they are pretty good to me but going to get more and I have 1 ever mppt 40a controller I will get 2 more I just need to get inverter if you can tell me what kind to get as far as brand name
@@rontech34 I would suggest a 3000 watt pure sine that highly efficient, they are on sale right now, hopefully you can snatch one up amzn.to/3aU7Zri
Hello just want to find out what happened if I'm away on vacation and there's a storm
Pull the brake switches and go on vacation if such a chance is possible. It will just stay locked down till you return.
Why not just use a wind turbine charge controller with a built in automatic braking system?
Brothaman when you get free time LOL help your fellow man-kind and make a video series on solar and wind how-too , as soon as I get a break I'll send you a new tool I made - please do a video on it if you feel its worth while.
That video will follow a video with a schematic and parts listing for diversion controllers and how to integrate your wind into your solar.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 exactly I havent used facebook and dont really do social media - no time fro drama / bs but I started a facebook page thingy - Watt You Need . I'll be posting a few videos on there soon . ( I need to do more research on how FB works and ) etc
why not for emergency shut down, flip the main 100 amp SW to the resistive load, that seem to have knocked the amps down to 1.5 amp then apply the two breaks.
Yes, that's a safer method
Thanks for the info. Very helpful!
Love the videos man, you seem pretty knowledgeable about this stuff... maybe you can tell me what I need for my project.. I'm currently building a hoverboard turbine, and I need to know exactly what units I need to get, charge controller etc... this is a test run, so eventually I will get the real deal like you have and would like to use the same components.. I watch you videos everyday, but a th I'll cant make my mind up on what to get.. Help me out man.. please and thankyou..
Anyone tried to put it to Deye 5kw inverter
Hi, Why the fuses should be placed right before the rectifier and not before the 100 A three-phase switch?
It is because the rectifier represents the highest resistive load against the incoming power and that's where you need your fuses because that's where it's most likely to burn a wire, terminal, or a short would occur.
@@JOHNDANIEL1, in your opinion it could be a good idea to protect also the resistor part of the circuit in some way or it's useless?
Hey John I really need ur help with my my system it's a 24v system .But my inverter is constantly dropping understand 24v sometimes it drop to 20v. Can you plz help me out I want to email you some pictures. So you can have a better understanding
@@heruedwards718 Yes, send your best description and pictures to olympicpowercontrols@yahoo.com
I can hopefully get back to you in a few days.
First off, thanks for cutting thru the BS and throwing real, working solutions out here for us. Been studying yourvideos for a while now, but had a question: while the manual braking systems are fantastically designed, what happens if you arent around to engage the braking systems when needed? Is there an automatic solution somewhere i am missing?
You can make a automatic safety brake using a much more complicated system like I created in some remote installs I did.
It will require a wind pressure trip switch, a pair of latching relays and some work. But it can be done.
Now, if the load switching could be automatic so you don't have to be there when the high winds come.
Good job
Shunt load resistors