Harley Davidson Road Glide Special vs Indian Challenger
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- Опубликовано: 30 дек 2023
- Let's compare those baggers!
We are taking the Harley Davidson Road Glide Special and the Indian Challenger out for a spin for us to compare.
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Road Glide Special or Challenger? Which one would you choose?
and did you ride either yourself yet? 🥳
Road Glide! haha
Why choose, just get both like I did.. 😂. As a dual brand owner Indian and HD, my comments are as follows: 1. The Indian is a bigger bike, longer and more roomy. 2. Indian has the better suspension out of the gate, and if equipped with the ESA system a much better ride. 3. The Indian has better standard features, more horsepower, more torque, electric windscreen, vent gates for the fairing, better standard lighting, locking panniers and cubbies. 4. The thing that the Harley Davidson has is the name, and feels a little more like a giant sport bike.
My motorbikes: 2023 Indian Challenger Darkhorse - 2023 Harley Davidson Road Glide Fast Johnnie ST - 2022 BMW R1250R - I am 6’3” tall with a 33.5 inseam, so the Challenger provides a better rider ergonomic when opting for the Extended reach seat from Indian. I put a Saddleman Step Up +1 on the Harley will most likely need to get a +2 seating option for a better riding position.
Excellent comparison video. Very unique. Your is the first video I have seen where both bikes are ridden simultaneously and are discussed back and forth while testing!
I own a 2022 Indian Challenge Limited with a slim line tour trunk. Looks are subjective and a personal choice. Both bikes are beautiful. There is nothing wrong with fit/finish or paint on Challenger. Indian chooses to cover more of the engine behind the rear cylinder. Harley leaves it open. Power/torque, brakes, suspension/handling and lear angle sensitive traction control are superior on Challenger. A stock Challenger is a fast bagger. Don’t believe me? Go test ride one!
@@Bikerbug2020 why choose?! I like that!
i wish I could own them all 😅
and all your points are absolutely bang on!
@@mark.lb116 thank you do much! really appreciate your feedback 🥰
and yes, you are absolutely right! that’s why I was so positively surprised about the indian 😂 wasn’t expecting on liking it so much 😅 comes down to looks at that point only 🙈
I have owned 46 bikes in 6 years. My Indian Challenger is by far my favorite all around ride.
46?! wow that is amazing!!! how many do you currently still have?
@@CorinnaHaimerl Just sold the Titan Phoenix so I am down to 2. Yeah I have issues. I buy them, I ride them, I get bored with them, ohhhhh shiny... I buy them.... repeat LOL
46 bikes in six years you must if you ride 6 months out of the year that means you changed bikes every weekend.
@@zoepaschalis9081 I usually start riding some time in late April or early May. Ride until the first salting of roads in early winter. But I ride almost every day. Also, a couple of those bike I never put on the road before I sold them off for another one LOL.
Indian for me. ❤
Tried the Road glide St and then the Challenger. Clear choice for me. Dark horse all day!i ride all brands of bikes. Only loyalty is to a good product!
Great video! Something to remember here is you are comparing a Harley that already has a bunch of work done to it to a stock Indian Challenger. You can get a seat that will move you forward to get closer to the foot controls. I've got buddies who have traded in their Road Glide for a Challenger and they said they would never go back to Harley after making the switch because of the customer service they receive and how much more comfortable they are on the Challenger.
Thank you 🥰
yes, that is absolutely right!
and you know what, I heard that a couple of times now already also!
I went with the Challenger (‘23 Dark Horse) over the Road Glide. The RG is a beautiful bike but what did it for me was (1) the infotainment system is hands down better than HD, tho the ‘24 models look to be upping their game, (2) the adjustable wind screen really helps with the buffeting when I need it most, (3) I feel “in” the Challenger vs. “on top of” the Road Glide. Ride feels more balanced to me, thus more comfortable, and lastly (4) PRICE. All the included bells and whistles on the Indian and it’s still considerably less expensive than the Road Glide. At least that’s been my personal experience.
Thanks for your video. I enjoyed and have subscribed. Wish you the best of luck!
thank you so much for your feedback! :)
really appreciate it!
How far did you ride your indian yet? super curious to get your feedback after you have ridden it for a while 🥰
oh and welcome to two wheeled family 😁
@@CorinnaHaimerl Just shy of 5K right now, but have a few longer rides planned for the new year.
@@TC_Rider63 nice! keep me in the loop if you don’t mind :)
and enjoy your rides ;)
My stunning 2019 Indian Springfield in steel gray and burgundy metallic, and I concur,
Indian it is! Cruiser Heaven, all day, every day!
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You guys making me wanna test ride a Indian
@Viewson2s You should, they have something for everyone. I'm a retro kind of guy, so a Vintage or the Springfield was always my choice. Just a great smooth cruiser with lots of classic soul. Go for it, you only live once.
@@roguecheddar exactly 😎 can totally agree with that 🥰
@@Viewson2s do it 😁 why not? 🥰
Yeah, it’s not a fair comparison between these two bikes as ridden. The Indian was bone stock (handlebars and exhaust) and the Harley had some aftermarket parts on it.
As for my choice, I went Indian Pursuit. Best of all worlds. 👍🏼
Happy New Year!! I'm a Harley guy but not a fan of the Road Glide. That Challenger looks real good, I'll go with the Challenger.
Happy New Year 🥳
It would the road glide for me. Happy New Year
Happy New Year my friend 🥰
If you get a challenger get the 21 or higher the 2020 was the 1st yr model and it they didnt have all the bugs out. Plus you can get a reduced reach seat to help with reaching the brakes
fantastic to know!
@@CorinnaHaimerl i have a 21 Challenger Limited with an extended reach seat since im a bigger taller guy and rode it from ohio to keywest Florida and was not tired or anything its a beautiful machine
I totally agree that the fairing on the Indian from the saddle is a bit to whim wham on the inside and I don’t like it at all from the outside. It’s not a bad looking bike and if Harley had not done so much better on style and flair on theirs the Indian could be more palatable than it is in comparison to Harley’s work. I suspect the they are both a pleasure to ride though. I never trade in when I buy. The bikes don’t eat anything so I can leave them sit until it’s time to ride them again. I love the road glide and I do have one pretty much identical to the one you rode here and I DO love that thing. It’s especially sparkly with a big cam; makes it all the much more fun to ride. My wife rides a Street Glide ST and that thing is a beast out of the box. She is a twitch faster than me getting to top speed but I can whip her tail between the lights with that cam… …it’s all in the give and take 😂
hahahahaha love this comment 😂
I can literally read how much you love riding and how much you love riding together!
couldn’t agreed more regarding the looks of the bikes as well.
So i owned a 21 roadglide with the 128 SE big bore kit in it and upgraded suspension all done up, rhen i took a challenger for a demo for a hr and it feels really light compared to the roadglide, stock seat was better on indian, superior power over a stock harley it was as fast as my 128 pretty much. By far better stock bike then harley i think. But i don't like the look of them from upclose. Finish is not as good. Then i traded it off for a 22 pan america and traded rhat off rhis year on a new bmw r18b. Love my bmw, way better bike in my opinion lol.
amazing explanation!
And I couldn’t agree more to all your points!
what a trade of bikes, I like it! 🤩 how is the BMW handling wise? how the engine sits you would think it would be tippy?
never had the chance to ride one yet and am curious!
I am 6’ tall - 180lbs. Test rode a BMW R-18. Where do you put your feet? There is no way to adjust my riding position with two big jugs right where my feet should be. Great for short hops but brutal on all day rides!
Which one has less recalls?
good question actually! 😅
Probably Indian at this point.
I ride a Indian Pursuit! It is so much affordable with so many more amenities than the Harley, adjustable windshield, 3 power ports, heated seat, and 2 years free GPS when buying new…and rides so much smoother! I have to say for me Indian all day.
that is awesome! 🤩 riding a motorcycle you truly love is such privilege 🥰
lucky indeed!
Rods Glide...but I’m also a fan of Indian as the competition is making for some fabulous motorcycles by both. Can’t go wrong with either but I felt the HD was a more solid feeling bike...although the Indian is super motorcycle. Maybe I’ll get both
I totally feel ya in regards to that 🥳😁
Harley for sure
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It would have to be the Harley
can‘t blame you 😁
You both seem to like the Harley the most. I don't understand that. I owned a 2017 road glide ultra, very nice bike, but not nice enough to keep it. Sold and bought a new Honda Goldwing. But I've rode the new challengers, I really like them, would have bought one over the Goldwing except I don't trust anything to do with Polaris and since Polaris owns Indian I felt like to much of Polaris may have rubbed off onto the Indian brand.
That aside the challenger was very enjoyable to ride, very nice seat, better engine cooling, lots more power, much better ride and handling. And the adjustable windscreen. Most reviews and people I know choose the challenger over the harley-davidson, seems like you guys would go the other way.
that is beauty of it 🥰 everyone has their own preferences and likes are subjective. that is why there are so many different types of motorcycles 🤩
For me, I'm going with the Indian Challenger because overall, it's just a better bike straight from the factory. Better handling, better suspension, more torque, more horsepower and overall better technology than the Street Glide from frame to infotainment systems. One thing that Harley does better than Indian is the stock throttle response. Other than that, Harley is still a little bit behind the curve, to include the new 2024 Road Glide models that incorporates a lot of the styling from the previous years' CVO. My favorite bike of all time is the Harley Fatboy but even then, for the price you're paying for the Fatboy, to get what is essentially a bare bones Softail is ridiculous in my eyes and that alone is and has been my biggest gripe with Harley in general. It was different when Harley was virtually the only American bike out there besides Victory (which was nowhere near the availability and notoriety of Harley), you either got a Harley or you went foreign. But now I feel like Harley is still trying to use that whole Harley is "The American V-twin" reputation to justify top tier prices for bikes that are no longer top tier in the cruiser category. For example, outside of the 2024 models, why would I spend 30,000 dollars on a bike that has less horsepower, less torque, outdated suspension setups, and comes with incandescent turn signals when I can go to Indian and spend around 5-6,000 dollars less on a bike that has more horsepower, more torque, far superior suspension (inverted front forks, adjustable fox mono rear shock), electronically adjustable windshield, ride modes and LED's all around straight from the factory with no upgrades necessary? And with upgrades blow's even a spec'd out fully customized Harley out of the water in overall performance.
I know everyone talks about the customizability of Harleys and the dealer network and all that, but let's be real. When it comes to those two things, while there is a ton of custom parts for Harley, how many Harleys do you actually see in real life, on the road, that are so much different from the others that it's noticeable? Not many. The meme that show's a bunch of Harley riders walking through a parking lot trying to figure out which black Harley is theirs because they all look the same is funny because it's true. In 2024 there's not much that you can do to a Harley that you can't do for an Indian when it comes to customizing the bike. The only other thing that is actually a real thing is the dealer network. It will obviously take many years for Indian to catch up on that front, but even now it's really not even that big of deal provided you didn't buy a lemon and you take care of your bike. As it is with all motor vehicles. For me it's more-so the idea that I'm ultimately spending more for a bike that offers less simply for the name that's stamped on the tank, and that's not enough for me. If Harley dropped the cost of their machines like 2-3k across the entire line-up it would be a no brainer for me to go with Harley and that alone would force Indian to meet them at lower prices or go out of business.
At the end of the day ride what you like and as long as you're on two's you're golden in my book. That's just why I personally choose Indian over Harley.
wow you really seam for feel very strongly about it…
fun fact, Harley dropped their prices on all their 2024 models by multiple grand🥰
keep your rubber side down!
@@CorinnaHaimerl yep sure did, which is a good start for the company. They’re finally listening to people that actually ride and buy motorcycles. Maybe 2025 will be the year where the competition is based off performance vs cost instead of performance vs name brand like it has been.
@@myronmosley2167 we can only lean back and wait to see what will be happening 😁
No doubt road glide is sharper looking and I own one but I really want to try out a challenger.
definitely worth a test ride! so much fun 🤩
The Challenger is obviously to big for you. Reduced reach handlebars would help. 😊.
and a different seat 😁
A BMW r1250rt would blow you away. Crazy power, handling and comfort. I also have an Indian pursuit. But the BMW is an extremely refined cornering machine with power everywhere. Its Amazing. The Indian is an American made cruiser like the Harley road glide with more power, more options better handling and a better ride than the Harley.
I might really have to look on getting my hands on a BMW 😁😁😁
Damm Corrina you look great..........nice bike too....😂
hahahaha thank you! 😅
My choices are limited by my size. I am 6"4"+ and about 270 lbs. My inseam is about 33 inches. I just plain do not fit on a Harley without massive and expensive alterations. Indians fit taller riders better.
fair enough 😅
It was Victory before it became Indian! Polaris, We need to talk...
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Kia ora from Aotearoa New Zealand 😊
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Harley for me
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Both bikes are great best in 2024
true :)
happy new year 🥳
@@CorinnaHaimerl thanks happy New year also
The Harley for me.
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I have test rode the Street Glide, Road Glide and Challenger. Other than finish, I found the Challenger to fit my needs much better. Handling and power are my thing. I put 12 or 13,000 miles on my Challenger, I put about $7k in extras on it and loved it.
I never had a Harley with less than $10,000 in extra motor work out run me.
However, just for kicks and grins I test rode a BMW K1600b. I came back from my test ride and bought one online (the dealer in Kansas City wanted $4k to much) 3 days later.
My BMW will power wheelie straight up vertical at 50mph with a simple Bren Tune on the motor. It will outrun about anything but a 1 liter sportsbike. An absolute monster and is more comfortable and refined as anything on the road. I put 14,000 miles on her in 6 months. It is a water cooled 6 cylinder which is what BMW is famous for.
If Rolls Royce made a motorcycle, it would be the K1600b. Go ride one before you buy the HD.
I think you are ride! I really have to get my hand on one of those BMWs 😅
never test rode one before 🙈
@@CorinnaHaimerl No protective gear and wearing tennis shoes. Not very confidence inspiring.
You test rode a bike from Engle and didn't buy from them? They're good people
@@robertopod1968 they are phenomenal!!! we just couldn’t agree to a price yet 🤷♀️
They are nice people at Engle but they wanted $4k more for the same bike. Thats a lot to pay extra for a smiling face! I did buy another seat from them and a Bren Tune from them, if that counts for anything! 🤗
As soon as someone chooses the HD over the Indian everyone gets all offensive. Ride what makes you happy.
seems to be a phenomenon 😂
agreed! everyone has their own preferences:) which is fantastic and how it should be :)
Neither for me. I have never or will never own one of those land barges.
that is totally alright :) what is your favourite bike?
@@CorinnaHaimerl Got a couple of Triumph cruisers, they're not as heavy as the baggers and when I go on a trip I just put my removable luggage on.
@@jackrobinson8945 sounds perfect!
I own 5 motorcycles. Challenger is my bagger choice. Just like golf. Different clubs for different shots!
21SG,19RG, 16 Chieftain DH, and 21 Challenger in my garage. Not all mine, but I’ve ridden all extensively, the Harleys aren’t even close in rideability , They have a nice sound and paint though !! HD suspensions average, seat sucks, slow, unbalanced. Indians = better power delivery, better balance, but the fit in finish sucks !!
jealous! you have them all 🥰
and you are bang on 😅 if they could create a bike that is the perfect mix, that would be mindblowinly amazing 😁
Say hoser dis bike feets like a snow mitten
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👍👍😊😊👌👌❤❤
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Indian all day long.
any specific reason why? :) super curious!
@@CorinnaHaimerl More features. But specifically, I just feel like you get more bike for the money. And subjectively, the Indian's feel more comfortable to me. I do however, prefer the batwing fairings.. and therefore I like the Chieftain more than the Challenger.
The Road Glide is a much better looking bike with a better fit and finish. One ride on The Challenger though, and it's an easy choice.
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I'll just say looks are subjective. Power, and suspension aren't. Nobody will say the Harley motor is stronger or that the Harley has a better suspension.
@@robertopod1968 true 🤷♀️
Indian, you get more for your bucks
can’t argue that 🤷♀️
Sorry no Polaris for me.
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Harley discontinued all their entry levelL Choosing rather to sell only high end, theyre sending a ton of people to Indian. Most Harley chicks who rode the Sportster are now ditching Harlry altogether. Harley has gone woke & doesn't even have an American running the company now.
can‘t even argue with that 😅 curious to see what is happening in 2024!
It’s a board put in place by the shareholders. That German, although at the head of the table, is hjust the unfortunate face, he runs nothing directly.
Discontinued their entry level bikes? The only models discontinued were the Dyna and the Street models. There is still a Sportster model, and several new models that are quite good as entry level bikes like the Low Rider models and the Breakout. I don’t mind people liking what they like, but let’s be honest in the presentation.
Indian
the challenger specifically or in general? :)
The Indian has a better balance to it and feels more solid Harley is geared differently making it feel smoother but both are best in class
very true! it keeps fascinating me on how different those two similar bikes feel