South Carolina Beats Clemson - Josh Pate Rapid Reaction (Late Kick Cut)
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2024
- South Carolina vs Clemson was one of the headline games in College Football's week 13, and on Late Kick Live Ep 333 Josh Pate spoke about the way Shane Beamer and the Gamecocks secured yet another upset victory - this time over Dabo Swinney and the Tigers. This rivalry had been very lopsided lately with Clemson dominating, but South Carolina found a way through elite special teams play to get the job done and significantly limit the Tiger offense. Will things begin shifting long-term in the Palmetto State? Hoe big was this win for recruiting? Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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Josh Pate has a more clear perspective on College Football than Paul Finebaum. There I said it. This guy is now my go to.
Paul Finebaum is extremely biased towards the SEC.
If Finebaum is your benchmark, you have pretty low standards.
Finebaum used to be my guy too. I think over the years he’s turned more into a meme than good analysis. Pate is just incredible
Facts
@@Braisedin You need to do a little research my friend.
Josh Pate is genuinely the best CFB commentator I know of. It's criminal this guy gets so few views.
Best explanation I think is this: South Carolina hasn't actually been all that inconsistent. They gradually built an identity with Lloyd as the feature and then had to suddenly reinvent themselves when he (and CBS) got injured, eventually landing on a more streamlined, aggressive package that plays to Rattler's strengths.
Also seems like Rattler has settled in behind the o line more and has been more willing to throw from inside the pocket. Earlier this year he was scrambling out of the pocket when not pressured and limited his options downfield when doing so. Hope to see him continue to progress.
That’s exactly what it is. Top that with a mid OC that overthinks too much and you get those inconsistencies
Also the oline performance got better as the season went. The line was trash earlier this season.
They allowed Rattler to pick a lot of his own plays. You didn't see him looking to the sideline as much in the last 2 games as he did before then setting him loose to play his game.
@@gamecockmike175 Rattler is a mediocre QB at best
Carolina's special teams on another level
Anybodys special teams can be on a another level if Clemson is doing sugar huddles from the . movie little Giants.
Without the sugar huddle, SC special teams dominated.
Beamer ball isn’t a thing just two people on return not holding the ball...that simple he’s not doin special tricks on kickoffs
@@camrenpotts5311 Josh literally mentioned in the video about how we consistently put them in bad field position lmao. Stop tryna discredit us
@@kevinburchett5878 Beamer Ball is the belief that in special teams can affect a game if the cards are played right. Things like missed field goals, blocked punts, punt return and puntING, play a domino effect. That’s why there’s special teams coordinators. That’s why we won a couple games like against Georgia state because ST execution.
Nothing feels better than knocking Dabo off his high horse. The Tennessee game was obviously historic and an absolutely ridiculous game, but the cfb rivalry in SC runs deep. I bet it is by far the highest grossing event in SC year by year as we dont have a professional team of any sport. I knew we had the pieces and coaching to go far and compete with big teams, I'm happy that everything clicked in the end to beat the playoff pretenders.
Josh Pate deserves his own football program! So entertaining and informative!
I think he's doing awesome here on YT. I believe they landed a couple of big deals for the channel this year, so a lot more resources, but can still do their own thing without any network bias or conference affiliations to worry about.
Kudos for owning your prediction man. There ain't a Carolina fan that thought we would win out after that Florida embarrassment. We were bowl eligible watching our selection game get closer and closer to pre-Christmas. Then after the Tennessee surprise, we were all afraid of the typical emotional let-down the following week that usually happens. But they defied ALL odds and made believers of us all. They got it figured out down the stretch and are positioned for prime recruiting and an upward trajectory for 2023. GO GAMECOCKS!!!!
As a SC fan who has been to every game but Arkansas, I have no idea where this came from, but I am all for continuing down this path.
Also in your defense, SC historically hasn’t performed well after big wins. This is coming from a Gamecock fan! Feels like a dream!
Very true statement
I still can't believe we pulled it off. I've been on cloud 9 since.
I feel like after the Florida game it was a little hard to over look Clemson, even after beating the Vols. Because they still know the feeling of getting their ass kicked
Exhibit A: Mizzou
I was not a believer in Shane Beamer when I first saw him, call it cynicism after Muschamp's tenure, but he's made me a convert to "Beamer Ball" because it seems to have finally reached the point where it's solved Carolina's age old problem of on paper having all the tools to win but them performing unevenly game to game(the age old adage of being able to beat and lose to any team). Now though, it seems it is finally coming together into a more consistent program.
You know what? Mad props to you for making this video and admitting when you're wrong. Gamecock alum here, and you're right. I, too, would need STRONG evidence if anyone told me they'd predicted wins over both UT and Clemson. That said, after the victory over UT, lots of Gamecock fans felt this win was very possible, myself included. No, I didn't bet on it, but I wasn't as shocked as most of you are.
It’s because people want to write the SEC off as being bias. It’s not bias when it’s just straight hard facts. The SEC is by far the best conference in college football
PAC & BIG12 both are atrocious in regards to Defense. TCU will struggle in The Playoffs.
The most Powerful & consistent occurrence to the 2022 Football program has been the fans. The way they've helped Shane & and his program believe has increased the standards inside their culture in Columbia SC.
This is the definition of an emotional win 💯
The reason for the turnaround on offense is the change in play calling (Beamer). Look at the formations USC has been running on offense. Spread offense trips it's kind of like they run in the BIG 12. Spencer finally was finally comfortable. He was so confused along with others all season until the Tenn game. Beamer obviously has been calling this new offensive play selection. He has opened the Oklahoma-style plays for Spencer Rattler. USC will get a new OC next year.
I might be saying this out of recency bias but Spence honestly looked better these last two games than he did at Oklahoma.
Yeah. When your QB says "we didn't know what we were supposed to be doing," something has gone very wrong. I don't know if Beamer called every play but he definitely took the keys away from Satt to do everything. I don't think it's a coincidence he's leaving for Rhule - Nebraska is a much worse job at this point for him than we are. I think Shane was publicly supporting him while privately telling him to put his feelers out there. Satterfield was a rush hire after the Bobo debacle, so I'm very glad that coach gets his time now to hire who he really wants. I hope this new Rattler stays one more year because if he does, we could legitimately compete for the East of the new OC uses him properly.
Beamer Ball is how we won these past two games no other explanation
Much respect to South Carolina, from a gator.
Yes I remember what you said. It's a rivalry game and it comes down to emotion and how you handle that with skill. Period. Go Cocks!
Also Rattler has 3 total TDs. Everyone forgets the rushing TD
Go Gamecocks!
This is by far my favorite commentary show.
That Undertaker reference was elite 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I'm a Carolina fan and no Carolina fan in they right mind thought they would go beat Tenn & Clemson after that Florida loss.
I thought we would lose out after Florida. But after Tennessee, I was certain that we'd beat Clemson. My Clemson alum dad was at the game with me, and he already had tickets for the Carolina Clemson game, and I turned to him at the end of the game and said "you need to be on notice because y'all are gonna lose next week" lol.
As a Tennessee fan, After him running his mouth, (even if it wasn't incorrect), It sure was fun watching Dabo get beat by the same South Carolina team.
I hope every vol shows up to orange bowl dressed as the McDonald’s ham burglar
Welcome to the idiocy of Dabo that we gamecocks deal with every week. We're happy to have you join the support group. There's a table with coffee and cookies in the back. Don't forget to sign up for the newsletter.
Josh Pate, lifetime gamecock here. Born and bred. To answer your question is simple. It's what we do. We are mediocre at best. I love my Gamecocks but it is what it is. They refuse to open the check book and make a good buy. Not Beamer, we all love Beamer. Beamer is protected. We probably will never be national champ contenders and I have come to understand that, but that does not in anyway mean that we can not ruin the other sides hopes and dreams also. So in the easiest way I can answer your question is simply this. It's what we do. And I loved your episode when you went to Williams-Brice Stadium. There is nowhere in the country like Williams-Brice on gameday.
As a carolina fan i have this downloaded and I listen to it whenever im out of service.
Not, "Orange Crush," but, "Crush Orange!!"
Rattler had 3 total TDs (2 passing, 1 rushing)
Clemson has been trending down for about three years now.
No matter if you predicted Carolina to lose we still love ya bro!!!! Love your show. You should replace Finebaum
The game was lost when DJ started
How did South Carolina lose to Missouri lol their season was really close to being incredible. The bang for their buck they are getting for 2.75 mil a year for Beamer is outstanding when Ole Miss is paying 9 million for the same 8-4
Wait until you find out what Jimbo makes
Thanks for making me laugh. 🤣😂 You are so right. We let some games get away this year. Could possibly have been a 10 win season. But it is what it is, and we ended on a high note. And just think, there were SO MANY people that thought Beamer was a trash hire for the job.
OC was holding us back. Last two games he was not in control of the offense. He’s accepted a new job with Nebraska.
Go Gamecocks! Shane Beamer gave us a roller coaster of a season but I'll take it if we can beat Clemson!
Let's also give SC punter some credit for putting Clemson inside the 5 yard line in the second quarter
One play changed that game. Clemson had momentum after the safety and then Clemson got “fancy” and instead running it back and setup another score they got cute and everything changed after that.
Even if Shipley kept the ball, he wasn't going anywhere either......play looked amateurish.
That’s what happens when you let a cheerleader (Dat boy) pretend to be a coach.
South Carolina overall still outplayed Clemson.
We finally started throwing the ball. Letting a damn good quarterback and damn good receivers off the leash can really improve winning odds. (Though I will say following the Mizzu game I thought cLepmson was our easiest game remaining.)
Love the channel. Also, as an OU fan, thank you for not talking about the Sooners. Good god what a year.
This year's game had one thing in common with last year's game - in both of them Clemson scored 30 points. The difference is this year Gamecocks scored 31 points instead of zero. [also I wish we hadn't throw that interception at the one. That would have made 4 weeks in a row where in a South Carolina game somebody scored 38 points]
Welcome back to the SEC, Clemson.
They changed the playcaller after Fla
I am a Clemson fan and what I saw was a Clemson team that was beaten by their attitude of they are the best I watch them come out played very good for the first quarter then slack off the rest of the game I hope this will make them better for next year
No you saw a Clemson team that was beaten by superior coaching and superior execution.
@@gamecokben I saw a team that has beat themselves the gamecocks played a great game and played the whole game Clemson just played the first quarter and then let the rest of the game go
Great show Josh!!! If they keep this up, they'll push Bama back into the playoffs right as we start peaking.
I know I’m late for this party…
Yet i Would Really Like to Be playing Bama Next Year…
That would require The Gamecocks and Tide to Make the SEC Championship!!!
Which would be Great for Both Programs 👍🏈👍
Course i gotta pull for The Gamecocks and Would Expect You to Be Pulling for The Tide🤣👍
Would Be Great to See 🤔
Spurs Up ☝️
Go Gamecocks!!!👍🏈👍
As a die hard Gamecock fan, I my self was not expecting a win over Tennessee. But I was extremely happy. No one wants to give them the benefit of the doubt.
I always believe in my gamecocks.
The win against Clemson was great!!
The FACT that Beamer got them off the matt after Fl is unlike anything ive seen in my 65 yrs. Now combine that with him being a great recruiter (portal and high school), facilities 2nd to none, good/ fair NIL in place. I got no reason to not believe Beamer can take it to the highest levels.
Facilities second to none? You haven’t seen Clemson, Florida, Alabama, etc. Not to mention, the entire city of Columbia is a dump. Many recruits are trying to leave the hood for a real college experience. Not jump from one ghetto sh!thole to another. But anyway, all else you said is spot on.
Also had 7 points taken away by a really bad call on the backwards pass that was miscalled.
Yeah that call was complete nonsense
This came from better play calling, one of USC's biggest problems all year has been bad play calling, they finally decided to start going down the field
I'm a Clemson fan but Carolina played a gutsy game.... that combined with our crappy QB and untimely fumbles gave away a playoff spot
I think someone else was calling plays the last 2 games 😂
Kia Kroeger Pinned Clemy So Many Times i Lost Track of the Number!!!
Best Punting Clinic i Ever Remember Seeing in a College Football Game!!!
Should Have Won All The Trophies Allowed To a Punter…
Plus 4-4 Passing With 2 Touchdowns!!!
What a Great Game and an Amazing Season for Kia Kroeger!!!
Spurs Up ☝️
Go Gamecocks!!!👍🏈👍
This was the sweetest one since the 2006 win over Clempsun....
South Carolina only lost to other SEC teams. This is just clear cut proof that the SEC is the toughest conference. Any SEC team can win any game against anyone especially when you count them out before kickoff.
FSU beat Florida and LSU
Everything he said is true. I'd have to agree with almost every point he made. Even though we routed Tenn., I still didn't think we'd go into Clempzon and win there but after we went down 14-0, I could see we had a team just as good if not better than Clempzon. We out played in all 3 phases, not just special teams. The score didn't do us justice on how well we actually played. Us losing Satterfield today has me questioning the bowl game because, yes it took him all year to figure out the offense but in the end he definitely figured out something. Now we have to prepare for a bowl game without our play caller on offense. Stay safe guys, God Bless and Go Cocks!
The year is 2024 and South Carolina is in the CFP
The experts pick the gamecocks to lose by 17 because “they only scored 6 against Florida in 2022”
They (SC) sort of repeated last year but did it more impressively this year. Toward the middle of the year last year we didn't even know if we'd be bowl elligible but then we beat favored Fla. and Auborn. No great feat but it got us into a bowl and we won. This year we were possibly not going to be bowl elligible early on but then when we won against A&M and Kentucky. Now we started to feel OK somethings in the air, we may do pretty good and get a decent bowl game after-all. But then we lost to Mizzu & Fla. and our hopes of going to something other than the 'New Era Pinstripe Bowl or the Cactus Bowl bowl, was dashed again because orange wave was ahead of us and that we thought was two losses more losses and then we'd be 6 & 6. However nobody expected us to win Tenn. & Clemson but we did! Now I dont care what bowl we go but what I'd LUV to see is USC to play & beat Oklahoma in some bowl and I bet you know why!!!
The explanation is Satterfield was NOT calling the plays for the last two games
Daboo, I was in my back yard in Tennessee flipping hamburgers and drinking a cold beer and watched your game. Interesting!
I think nobody saw this coming, however I think a lot of experts are underestimating the effect of the transfer portal. These guys come to a new system and sometimes it takes a while to get acclimated and when it does you can see something totally different. College football need to adjust to this new way of results to these games.
It’s simple Josh. Beamer started calling the offensive plays instead of our OC satterfield
Josh, you are one of the best in the business. Love your channel, but ESPN, etc needs to give you airtime. Go Cocks!
great segment
Even freight trains need to build momentum. 10/2 Next season and the SEC Championship! Beamer Ball is the real deal. 😁
I agree with what you said about the Clemson game, SC gave them 14pts
SC Won With Special Teams and Pass Defensive!!!
Go Gamecocks!!!👍👍👍
Wonder if Dabo was flipping burgers at home before this game?
Would’ve been a two TD win for USC if those two unforced interceptions weren’t thrown.
Son of Clem has been sledding downhill for several years. They play only one or two decent teams s year. This is what you get from a weak schedule. No accountability.
Tennessee fans say hi Dabo! 👋😃
Y'all still got thrashed, and embarrassed on national tv
@@hitwonder101 a little salty I see 🤣
@@scottbe1 about what? Tenn's L??? Nope, happy
@@hitwonder101 not a Tennessee fan though 🤫🤫
@@hitwonder101 Old news bud. Time to return tit for tat. Dabo wanted to trash talk TN then turned around and lost to SCAR at HOME. Ended Clemson's home winning streak and their streak against SCAR. And that's after he trash talked. Embarrassing indeed.
I call Gamecocks by 90 every week...
As a Clemson fan, this one stings. Really could have lost any other game. Gotta give it to South Carolina though, they showed up yesterday. So, what's next for Clemson you ask? 1. Replace DJ with Kade! I'm sure he's a great kid, but he has been at the top of our issues for the past 2 seasons. 2. Work on holding on to the football!! 3. Streeter needs to go.
As a Carolina fan, I agree. DJ has to go and those fumbles rival our interceptions in impact.
I'm a Carolina fan and I thought we would get beat terribly. Because that's our heritage. Too lose to whomever after a Key win
Go to the inside the Gamecocks podcast, and JC and Phil. I said weeks ago, the college Football playoff runs through Columbia SC.
Lol I love the undertaker reference and yes it was 96
I tweeted a score prediction that my buddy made that i agreed with that was close (34-31 SC) the night before
i said we would beat Tennessee and clempson after the florida game because i knew no one believed in us. and thats always when south carolina does best. we always play inconsistent but we get a couple big wins
Clemson would be undefeated if they had a QB. I don't know why they didn't bench DJ early in the season. Merit over loyalty or people will get fired.
Tru Dat
No they wouldn't. They still had store brand receivers and idiots calling plays.
@@gamecokben I see the QB missing a bunch of plays and being clumsy in the pocket and with the ball.
Is Spencer Rattler coming back next year. If he does, u might need to watch out for South Carolina
He’s not ready for the draft so he’s coming back
He hasn't declared. He needs another year if he wants to be a day 1 or 2 pick, but he might leave now regardless.
@@gamecokben he got 2 years left if he wants thanks to transferring+the Covid season waiver
Unbelievable that Dabo wouldn't take out DJU, that guy is an albatross around Clemson's neck.
Rattler has had some bad games this season. But he is capable of elite QB play when his mind is right.
The infamous paper pop !!!!!! Yes!!!! 😂
8/29 completions is insane 😂
Yeah DJ is soo inconsistent.
@@aroncampos5720 he is, but damn their off brand receivers drop a lot of catchable balls too
The two quarterbacks Playing the best in the country Right now yes Caleb Williams and Spencer Rattler. It just takes time with a new O coordinator new coach new environment new receivers just look at the ball placement the anticipation the arm strength. I say second round Seahawks
I'm a Gamecock fan and I didn't even see wins against UK and A&M coming. As for the QB comparison between SC and clemzon, well, even clemzon fans don't believe in DJU. Clemzon will continue to win in the ACC and compete for conference championships because, well, ACC. I feel they've slipped a bit from previous playoff form.
Riddle me this Dabo.. If Carolina is in Chapel Hill, and USC is In Southern California, then who did Clemson lose to on Saturday?
In the words of spurrier, the real Death Valley is in Louisiana and we were a school before they were a state (cali)
@@JretnuH 🤔 pretty sure Clemson was Death Valley before LSU
@@boostinwillie nope
@@JretnuH your might want to look that up. Clemson was Death Valley in the 40s. LSU was Deaf valley in the 50s
72-43-4
different play caller..scoreboard is visual proof
Just proves a Blind Squirrel finds an acorn sometime!
Gamecock fan here, so I'm conceding that I'm biased, but Dabo's aforementioned stubbornness and fixation on proven loyalty is why he's in this boat. That's why he doesn't like the portal - if they didn't want him to begin with, why should he want them now? That's why he doesn't like NIL - if they are here for something other than just playing for him, he doesn't like it. And that's why he promoted from within for his offensive staff despite having an offense last year year that ranked in the 80's to 100's in every category that matters, because he wants people who have demonstrated loyalty to him. The last time Dabo took a "risk" was when he brought in Venables (though admittedly it wasn't a risk given the track record, it was just a risk because he was an outside personality) and it took an absolute humiliation by WVU to get him to do that. Dabo's stubbornness isn't what you said you'd be like - it's an absolute fixation on the idea that he, and only he, is right about anything.
My pop psychology take on the whole thing is that Dabo sees his personal path and thinks that it's the only right way to do things. He was an assistant coach who got pulled up from within a system, so maybe he's paying it forward, maybe he's going with what he knew worked for him, or maybe he just likes the leverage that "creating opportunities" gives him over people. But I don't believe that he has the sense to keep his mouth shut to not give others the satisfaction, because he constantly runs his mouth in ways that end up biting him down the line. He sees that "his way" has been successful, so he refuses to change his approach, while refusing to admit that his way was so successful because he was fortunate enough to have back to back generational talents at QB. Changing his approach would be a public admission that he doesn't have all the answers, and I legitimately don't believe his ego is capable of allowing him to do that. Remember, this is the guy that not only "runs down the hill" first at their home games, but leaves his players 50 yards in the dust. He thinks it's all about him, and he'll continue to think it's all about him until it crumbles around him. For his sake, I certainly hope he has the humility to change, but I just honestly don't see that happening. They'll continue to be successful for the next several years, but soon enough NC State, FSU, UNC, and maybe even Miami will leave them in the dust if he won't swallow his pride.
I posted on Facebook that we would upset Tennessee 5 days before it happened. Too bad I don’t know how to comment pictures on RUclips.
Go Gamecocks 🤙🏼🐔
Ok...another giddy Gamecock just subscribed.
We all knew the sun was setting on the Clemson run and it's only going to get worse after they lose all that talent on the defensive line. They're 9th in recruiting and that ain't cuttin it if you want to win a natty in my opinion. They had a couple generational QBs, but it's over now and they'll go back to being what they were for the majority of the 30 years prior. 8-4 and 9-3 will be the new norm in Clemson and Dabo is stubborn, so he won't embrace the recruiting portal or change the way he recruits which will drag the program down in my opinion.
Dabo how do those burgers taste buddy?
This is what Bama needed….Chaos!!!
It seems like the transfer portal has balanced teams better in all conferances. However, i aint no pro in any speculation
Beamer Ball strategy . Emotional Damage 😂🤣
Cant spell Citrus Bowl without UT!
Love this comments section full of Clemson fans saying "we" about the team who probably barely passed the GED and flunked out of Tri-County Tech after 1 semester.
Go Gamecocks
I don't have it documented, but I picked South Carolina to beat Florida, loose to Tennessee, and barely beat Clemson, after we beat Texas A&M, we believed, spurs up!
As a UVA fan, I'm used to a member of the Beamer family wrecking the dreams of an orange-clad team
SC just decided that they didnt want to see anyone wearing Orange in the Championship.