This has been the most boring patch since durability. They over buff Kat q then nerf her 3 times. LMAO. Then they gutted her nashors rush so she’s just awful. They always do this with kat. They buff her then nerf an item or spell that she utilizes and then nerf her on top of it. It’s so sad. This champions ONLY identity is damage. So if you can’t even do damage wtf is the point. No cc, no monster damage in her kit, no authority in lane, can’t split push. If you have TWENTY PLUS kills on any other champ you hard carry. Kat can have 50 kills and it doesn’t matter because you do fk all even with an insane lead. One CC and ur dead gg games over. The only reason I played league since season 2 was Katarina. I’m not playing a tank or bruiser to conform to the meta and appease the very underwhelming balancing team. “Tanks are weak” is the statement that sealed the deal on how out of touch riot is with their game. A tank SHOULD do no dmg. Why are tanks outdamaging both teams while also a having the most sustain and resistance and can stand under turret for 10 minutes? Katarina is the problem here surely. Anyways, sorry for the rant but yes. Everything you said is just yes. Terrible game right now.
Well tanks need to be able to do SOME dmg otherwise u can just completely ignore them and kill them last which defeats the idea of being a tank and i say this as someone who NEVER plays tank champs in my life
@@NimaLema I believe "some damage" Is very different from tanks often having highest damage and being able to kill a full Build assassin by just autoattacking them. Which Is Just how the game works right now
@@YESyeeeestanks are supposed to counter assasins... Tanks do damage because they live the longest, but they still have the lowest burst or dps compared to others. Kata is not op, but playable, her winrate is okay, everyone got nerfed, stop crying. Actually Idc
@@NimaLema That's true, they must deal some damage so they can do something in lane and farm but their kit should focus only on CC and engage besides dealing the most damage. Their abilities must do damage, of course, but just to help them during lane or to farm or to last hit someone, but to burst an adc? That's wrong.
Bro game is balanced as fk (its not) what do you want? Btw Katarina is a high risk melee assasin trying to get closer enemy to do 500 damage with full combo and easily dodgeable pasive daggers meanwhile Syndra just pressing R dealing 2k with no skill shot or Caitlyn just hits passive with Rapid Firecannon like 700 range dealing 1k damage whle support is doing shield stuff and blocking like 1k damage and even ap champions dont have a shield shred item... Its balanced as fuck thanks to Riot Phreak!
I noticed that as well, for example my friend played vayne top, stopped csing after 20min, finished the game 14/2/5 with 211cs, gwen finished 7/8/2 265cs, both took tier two top, and they were both like half an item away from full build, he got so mad but did win at the end xd
been trying alot of builds for kat lately , stormsurge with 16 kills (first item btw) did only like 700-800 dmg , nashors is bad now , lich bane with E isnt good anymore , bork on her is dead , they took sunderer out of the game which used to be good on her with witsend and now witsend is dead too , they nerf her 3 times which if u get fed and 1 mistake u lose a game u cant carry anymore ,. adc's and jnglers now can easilyyyy out lvl you if you miss 1 or 2 waves for a kill or two , her Q cant even kill lane minions anymore at low hp , her E does 0 damge with sheen proc , champ is dead , - win rate - honors -gameplay - everything even people are not even scared to face kat no more GGWP riot
This game is becoming one of the greatest games for farmers 😅, and almost old gen assassins are hopeless now because a tank can one shot any of them with a right combo 😢….so sad for an 13-year old game
kata just feels so meh to play this patch. One of the reasons i got into and enjoy kata is build variety but it just feels like this patch unless i go stormsurge/lich build im just kinda useless. Lichbane build path is just painful as well so unless you get god backs everytime its just stormsurge every game loving your content though its always nice to see a wundrew vid in my feed
Yea I just started learning Kata and I am definitely not the greatest but I am losing Majority of my Games and I try really hard and its really hard to learn the Champion by default now with those changes I dont know it's just not fun anymore to just getting run down by literally anything in the Game.
trust me. in time they will nerf anything that allows you to stomp noobs. they took socialism too seriously in this game. its over just play a skill based game
at 3:35 why did you e->f instead of f->e? She had no flash from earlier fight, can't you f->e->q and hold ult, or maybe even e->q->r with no f if the r range is big enough? Just wondering, ik it's an instant decision so I'm not criticizing, just curious if there was a specific reason I can learn from, or it that's just how it played out... thanks!
It gives you more range. In that situation, the range between him and Sydnra was enough to basically flash on top of her. However, if she'd be slightly further away and he'd just flash first it may not have been enough to reach her with e. With e to minion + flash, he'd still be in range to hit her with q+r. Does this make sense?
Yeh i think its about taking the less risk play for the same reward, even though you use more resources. if syndra steps back by accident in that exact same moment you decide to go for the kill, your e+q+r maybe also wouldnt be enough to kill her.
at the beginning of this seasion i decided i decided i want to main kata i hit 123k.I feel like i found champ that i can one trick again (i mained kayn before).Seen your video with stormsurge tried it ,for me it played better than litchbane and what do i see when i see patch note leaks storm surge is getting nerfed.and for myself i dont find league as fun as before now i only play when i have someone
Me too brotha, quit league for a couple months playing other games and enjoying them. Deadlock is there to scratch the moba itch, not really any champs similar to Kat maybe haze? Still fun all the same.
Riot rewarding skilless player by making their champions OP tier S meta picks, Amumu Garen were the op meta pick for a long time, i mean they should have useless stats because of their 0 iq gameplay
How long have you been playing league? Just wondering, if youre quitting league I would just assume its been some time. I personally have only been playing 2-3 years never felt like the person to play ranked much, as I find it way more enjoyable just playing with my friends but I can still see the appeal of ranked. Two splits ive played ranked ive gotten bronze then silver simply cuz every game seems the same if youre winning, get ahead, get baron and finish, if youre losing, well ff15. Obviously thats just the broad picture and every game is played out differently depending on champs but those are always just the minor differences, who wins from level 1 - 6 and who out scales the other, counter picks, and map macro including summs (i understand that all these small things are what make league so different from other mobas but simply put its a competitive game so its always going to end the same one team loses one wins). The point is, the only reason the game is stale is because people dont exactly play the game to enjoy but because its their habit and the only game they KNOW how to play, as memes call it "addiction" and naturally, as any human is afraid of trying new things theyre sprung back onto league once again as their "last choice". That was a lot of yap but just thought itd be nice to put my view of league out there
Srsly, since the on-hit changes Katarina has become the worst mid laner. She can't have one stable build because either her items or her stats get nerfed. You can compare how she could solo carry in other seasons when she was fed, but now it doesn't matter if you have 20 kills and 4 items bc a '200 years of experience' champion can just erase you from existence.
Bro i cant even play kat now and win, shit feels so wrong this patch, tried everything, at this point probably is just better play stuff like veigar lmao
Ive been seeing nyro running ad kat almost every single game, prob the way to go ideally. but yeah esrly split is horrible and people like that samira should quit not you wun:(
lich was already a lil weak and cringe playstyle, now its the most expensive stsrting item for kat and has a dogshit build path, stormsurge is good early and costs less and all that but they get one null magic and u do 0, so i think nash first is still best lol
They nerfed the damage of the proc sure but the proc was never the reason to build it. You build it for the 15 flat m-pen. Boots + Stormsurge = Shadowflame = 45 flat pen which is absurd.
He’s speaking the truth lol assassins stage is terrible right now, especially champs who rely on itens like nashor to make something, which kat does. Listening to an obvious reality is so hard to listen to? Don’t be a snowflake, please
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This has been the most boring patch since durability. They over buff Kat q then nerf her 3 times. LMAO. Then they gutted her nashors rush so she’s just awful. They always do this with kat. They buff her then nerf an item or spell that she utilizes and then nerf her on top of it. It’s so sad. This champions ONLY identity is damage. So if you can’t even do damage wtf is the point. No cc, no monster damage in her kit, no authority in lane, can’t split push. If you have TWENTY PLUS kills on any other champ you hard carry. Kat can have 50 kills and it doesn’t matter because you do fk all even with an insane lead. One CC and ur dead gg games over. The only reason I played league since season 2 was Katarina. I’m not playing a tank or bruiser to conform to the meta and appease the very underwhelming balancing team. “Tanks are weak” is the statement that sealed the deal on how out of touch riot is with their game. A tank SHOULD do no dmg. Why are tanks outdamaging both teams while also a having the most sustain and resistance and can stand under turret for 10 minutes? Katarina is the problem here surely. Anyways, sorry for the rant but yes. Everything you said is just yes. Terrible game right now.
Well tanks need to be able to do SOME dmg otherwise u can just completely ignore them and kill them last which defeats the idea of being a tank and i say this as someone who NEVER plays tank champs in my life
@@NimaLema I believe "some damage" Is very different from tanks often having highest damage and being able to kill a full Build assassin by just autoattacking them. Which Is Just how the game works right now
@@YESyeeeestanks are supposed to counter assasins... Tanks do damage because they live the longest, but they still have the lowest burst or dps compared to others. Kata is not op, but playable, her winrate is okay, everyone got nerfed, stop crying. Actually Idc
@@shyless6526 tell me u are a tank player without telling me
@@NimaLema That's true, they must deal some damage so they can do something in lane and farm but their kit should focus only on CC and engage besides dealing the most damage. Their abilities must do damage, of course, but just to help them during lane or to farm or to last hit someone, but to burst an adc? That's wrong.
10:48 wholesome 2/8 1 item support damage
Not to mention down 4 levels
Bro game is balanced as fk (its not) what do you want? Btw Katarina is a high risk melee assasin trying to get closer enemy to do 500 damage with full combo and easily dodgeable pasive daggers meanwhile Syndra just pressing R dealing 2k with no skill shot or Caitlyn just hits passive with Rapid Firecannon like 700 range dealing 1k damage whle support is doing shield stuff and blocking like 1k damage and even ap champions dont have a shield shred item... Its balanced as fuck thanks to Riot Phreak!
I dont like this patch at all. afk farmers are winning, max health damages too broken, lethal tempo too broken. Nothing feels right. So sad
Idk why Riot think afk farming is balance XD The game is so boring now 🥱
I noticed that as well, for example my friend played vayne top, stopped csing after 20min, finished the game 14/2/5 with 211cs, gwen finished 7/8/2 265cs, both took tier two top, and they were both like half an item away from full build, he got so mad but did win at the end xd
You had everything right, except lethal tempo being broken lol
You are struggling playing Katarina, I am struggling playing Qiyana. We are in the same shit situation.
been trying alot of builds for kat lately , stormsurge with 16 kills (first item btw) did only like 700-800 dmg , nashors is bad now , lich bane with E isnt good anymore , bork on her is dead , they took sunderer out of the game which used to be good on her with witsend and now witsend is dead too , they nerf her 3 times which if u get fed and 1 mistake u lose a game u cant carry anymore ,.
adc's and jnglers now can easilyyyy out lvl you if you miss 1 or 2 waves for a kill or two , her Q cant even kill lane minions anymore at low hp , her E does 0 damge with sheen proc ,
champ is dead , - win rate - honors -gameplay - everything
even people are not even scared to face kat no more GGWP riot
This game is becoming one of the greatest games for farmers 😅, and almost old gen assassins are hopeless now because a tank can one shot any of them with a right combo 😢….so sad for an 13-year old game
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Kata 45% wr in d2+ 💀 and stormsurge gets nerfed next patch and kata wont be buffed
🐐 pls riot remove on hit at this point it doesnt even make sense anymore
That ending 💀
kata just feels so meh to play this patch. One of the reasons i got into and enjoy kata is build variety but it just feels like this patch unless i go stormsurge/lich build im just kinda useless. Lichbane build path is just painful as well so unless you get god backs everytime its just stormsurge every game
loving your content though its always nice to see a wundrew vid in my feed
Ad kat is the way
@@yamatosprime yeah probably , botrk kraken and full on hit ... with a stridebreaker for the hp
Why would Riot pay attention to Katarina when she doesn't sell any skins?
This game is a joke
It doesn't matter u know better than enemy mid if he lock in scaling champ u are done and games take longer
I'm done playing for this year. Will get back prolly next year after the greater changes. Now I'm just hyped about arcane
Yea I just started learning Kata and I am definitely not the greatest but I am losing Majority of my Games and I try really hard and its really hard to learn the Champion by default now with those changes I dont know it's just not fun anymore to just getting run down by literally anything in the Game.
Don’t quit ur my fav kat RUclipsr :(
The thumbnail is perfectly accurated
Balance department is BRAINDEAD to nerf Katarina that way, she relies specific items way too much.
yeah i just started playing katarina and i hate building lich bane first item
I’ve felt the same way. Just need to learn a new champ.
trust me. in time they will nerf anything that allows you to stomp noobs. they took socialism too seriously in this game. its over just play a skill based game
They should increase move speed for kat as kat is less powerful than one-shot mages like viegar and syndra
at 3:35 why did you e->f instead of f->e? She had no flash from earlier fight, can't you f->e->q and hold ult, or maybe even e->q->r with no f if the r range is big enough?
Just wondering, ik it's an instant decision so I'm not criticizing, just curious if there was a specific reason I can learn from, or it that's just how it played out...
thanks!
It gives you more range. In that situation, the range between him and Sydnra was enough to basically flash on top of her. However, if she'd be slightly further away and he'd just flash first it may not have been enough to reach her with e. With e to minion + flash, he'd still be in range to hit her with q+r. Does this make sense?
Yeh i think its about taking the less risk play for the same reward, even though you use more resources. if syndra steps back by accident in that exact same moment you decide to go for the kill, your e+q+r maybe also wouldnt be enough to kill her.
at the beginning of this seasion i decided i decided i want to main kata i hit 123k.I feel like i found champ that i can one trick again (i mained kayn before).Seen your video with stormsurge tried it ,for me it played better than litchbane and what do i see when i see patch note leaks storm surge is getting nerfed.and for myself i dont find league as fun as before now i only play when i have someone
I've been going First strike on Katarina for the gold and true dmg. Yall should give it a try. I'm the pioneer of course
I just go bork stride ATP I fear AP is so eh rn. I nearly given up on kata. I've been playing fiora recently or adc and have had way more fun
Me too brotha, quit league for a couple months playing other games and enjoying them. Deadlock is there to scratch the moba itch, not really any champs similar to Kat maybe haze? Still fun all the same.
Why people keep playing ADCs in other lines 😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫
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Riot rewarding skilless player by making their champions OP tier S meta picks, Amumu Garen were the op meta pick for a long time, i mean they should have useless stats because of their 0 iq gameplay
Si, el meta de los asesinos que no asesinan siempre ha estado presente. XD
If you play league competitively you aren't allowed to have fun, so what's the point? I just play norms if I play at all.
How long have you been playing league? Just wondering, if youre quitting league I would just assume its been some time. I personally have only been playing 2-3 years never felt like the person to play ranked much, as I find it way more enjoyable just playing with my friends but I can still see the appeal of ranked. Two splits ive played ranked ive gotten bronze then silver simply cuz every game seems the same if youre winning, get ahead, get baron and finish, if youre losing, well ff15. Obviously thats just the broad picture and every game is played out differently depending on champs but those are always just the minor differences, who wins from level 1 - 6 and who out scales the other, counter picks, and map macro including summs (i understand that all these small things are what make league so different from other mobas but simply put its a competitive game so its always going to end the same one team loses one wins). The point is, the only reason the game is stale is because people dont exactly play the game to enjoy but because its their habit and the only game they KNOW how to play, as memes call it "addiction" and naturally, as any human is afraid of trying new things theyre sprung back onto league once again as their "last choice". That was a lot of yap but just thought itd be nice to put my view of league out there
I agree with this take actually. He definitely shouldn’t quit it just take a break.
Probably hes not getting fun while playing kat like the previous patches so quitting seems understandable
are you using a 40%? it's the only way I can explain the key bindings lol
i feel you mr. drew :(
Question, how to predict where the Q will land after bouncing on enemy and minions?
the q will always land right behind the person/minion you used it on. Doesn't matter how or where it bounces
Srsly, since the on-hit changes Katarina has become the worst mid laner. She can't have one stable build because either her items or her stats get nerfed. You can compare how she could solo carry in other seasons when she was fed, but now it doesn't matter if you have 20 kills and 4 items bc a '200 years of experience' champion can just erase you from existence.
Bro i cant even play kat now and win, shit feels so wrong this patch, tried everything, at this point probably is just better play stuff like veigar lmao
5:55 rofl the only time shyv ganks is then. Lmao
Ive been seeing nyro running ad kat almost every single game, prob the way to go ideally. but yeah esrly split is horrible and people like that samira should quit not you wun:(
i dont like thi patch at all, afk arena is winning, max the elf too broken, lethal tempo is fast music. Nothing else matters. Sodesuka
g8 movie, g8 content, clean katarina! wp :)
lich was already a lil weak and cringe playstyle, now its the most expensive stsrting item for kat and has a dogshit build path, stormsurge is good early and costs less and all that but they get one null magic and u do 0, so i think nash first is still best lol
ur so sosososoos good ion care if kata is bad champ rn ur still number oneee :33333
idk dh stormsurge op
and now stormsurge is nerfed XDDDDDD. Also my mmr is so fucked. I ended d1 and am +18 -24 in e1 rn hahahah
They nerfed the damage of the proc sure but the proc was never the reason to build it. You build it for the 15 flat m-pen. Boots + Stormsurge = Shadowflame = 45 flat pen which is absurd.
i like urs videos bro - So close
Just play Diana she is superior to Katarina
post other games i like ur style
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dude the constant negativity is really annoying to listen to. I wont deny the gameplay being extremely good thou.
He’s speaking the truth lol assassins stage is terrible right now, especially champs who rely on itens like nashor to make something, which kat does. Listening to an obvious reality is so hard to listen to? Don’t be a snowflake, please
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