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  • @PaulG.x
    @PaulG.x Год назад +27

    What is not often known about the Southern Alps is that while the peak altitudes are relatively low , the mountains are quite tall due to the fact that they rise from sea level. Other mountain ranges rise from high plateaux i.e. The Himalaya , Andes , European Alps , Rockies etc

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  Год назад +5

      Yeah that’s a good point! It’s crazy looking at them from the West Coast 🍻

    • @lockk132
      @lockk132 11 месяцев назад +1

      And the erosion rate is one of the fastest anywhere.All of the Canterbury plains were the southern alps

    • @duncanhunter2714
      @duncanhunter2714 5 месяцев назад

      Correct . That's why Hillary was so good. All the climbs were technically more challenging but they started at sea level so didn't have the height.

  • @donovankelly12
    @donovankelly12  Год назад +9

    Sorry for the late post, folks! Dealt with some physical and technical difficulties. Hope you enjoy! 🍻

  • @kerstinwallace9854
    @kerstinwallace9854 Год назад +7

    In the north of the UK, the evening meal is referred to as 'tea'. That's where that comes from. I live in Australia and you will find plenty of people referring to the evening meal as tea as well, but it tends to be only in an very informal setting. If you are planning to go out with some friends it's dinner.
    (Ps in the north of UK there is also the older version where dinner is your lunch time meal).

  • @trudimclaren4301
    @trudimclaren4301 Год назад +7

    Thanks Donovan - great video as always! It's the beaches I'll miss most about NZ - the buoyancy of salt water is so lovely to swim in, but I'll make sure we make it to the East Coast to explore. Something to look forward to! ❤ I was incensed to have to pay to get into Montreal public gardens, but now I understand the free gardens are just a Kiwi thing 😅
    Warning about the meat pies - I tried to make them in Canada, but you can't buy proper flaky pastry so the pastry is dense and chewy - not right at all (you'll see what I mean). I'm going to have to try making the pastry from scratch. I'm not a fan of poutine, but I do really like grillades (which are hard to make here - no fresh pork sliced like bacon), so that's something!

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  Год назад

      Thank you, Trudi! Ahh that’s a good point, that’s probably why I’ve never been a fan of savoury pies before, it’s because I never found a good one! If you make it from scratch and it turns out I might have to get the recipe off of you! 😃

  • @CookingAroundTheWorld
    @CookingAroundTheWorld Год назад +2

    You two are the best tourists we have ever had in New Zealand. I love how much you embrace different experiences. I hope this turns out to be your best holiday ever. Thanks for sharing this.

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  Год назад +1

      Thanks a lot, John! I really appreciate that 🍻 definitely going to be one of the better travel moments I look back on 😃👍

  • @johny6419
    @johny6419 Год назад

    Wow!! Your videos have gotten so much better. I am glad you are enjoying NZ. Keep up the good work.

  • @jasonpayneuk
    @jasonpayneuk 10 месяцев назад +1

    lol at the risk of never being allowed back to NZ I can totally agree with you about Maccas! Since moving here to the UK I definitely miss the meat pies from back home

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  10 месяцев назад

      Yeah haha I already know that will be an issue for me when I leave. I’ve gotten way too used to pies 😂😂

  • @baileyscoolgamingvideos6039
    @baileyscoolgamingvideos6039 Год назад +1

    I really like these types of videos so interesting. Keep up the great work

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  Год назад +1

      Thanks Bailey 😃 so glad you enjoyed it!

  • @parkiwi4787
    @parkiwi4787 Год назад +3

    Canadians and Kiwis are blessed, we are similar in outlooks and as a Kiwi I consider the Canadians family.

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  Год назад +1

      So happy to hear that 😃 I feel the same 🇨🇦🇳🇿

    • @parkiwi4787
      @parkiwi4787 Год назад +2

      @@donovankelly12 We should include our Aussie mates.

  • @renatamortazavi2450
    @renatamortazavi2450 Год назад +1

    Hey Donovan, your vlogs are amazing! We adore your energy and presentation style. 👍Thanks for highlighting those differences. I'm definitely leaning towards better winter temps and the lifestyle in NZ. When friends ask why I'm so fixated on NZ over Canada, I'll be forwarding them your vlog. 😜🤣
    All the best💕

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  Год назад

      That’s so lovely to hear 😃 very happy to read these kind words 👍 yeah the winter temperature is by far better ☀️
      Thanks for always watching.

  • @Chris-NZ
    @Chris-NZ Год назад +6

    Cool, knowing both places nothing there I’d disagree with 😀. The tea-dinner thing is interesting because growing up in the South Island through the 50’s and 60’s I’m pretty sure “dinner “ was interchangeable with “lunch” but more likely to say be a roast whereas lunch might be more casual and “tea” was always the evening meal.👍

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  Год назад +3

      Ahh interesting… tea was always the evening meal eh. Sounds like nobody in NZ says “Supper” lol

    • @Chris-NZ
      @Chris-NZ Год назад +4

      @@donovankelly12 when you say Supper, I would think of a cup of warm milk and a biscuit before bed.😀

    • @trudimclaren4301
      @trudimclaren4301 Год назад +1

      I agree, that's what we used to say, growing up, but switched to saying 'dinner' for the evening meal when I was in my 20s because my ex's family are from the UK. Less confusing - breakfast, lunch, dinner 😅

    • @tonylove4800
      @tonylove4800 Год назад +1

      That's how I referred to them then but now I have changed to calling the evening meal dinner.

  • @louisenicholson5544
    @louisenicholson5544 Год назад +1

    Another thing I have noticed for Canadians and New Zealanders is "aye" after a sentence. Most Canadians I have met are like Kiwis and are pretty chilled easy going. Love your videos.
    Cheers

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  Год назад

      Yeah absolutely, the Canadian EH is so engrained in us but I’ve noticed a lot of Kiwis say that too. Same with “Yeah nah” haha
      Glad to hear it, thank you for watching!! 😃🍻

  • @Lee-tj8km
    @Lee-tj8km Год назад +2

    Watched a lot of your videos and its great that you really enjoyed what nz has to offer. Have cousins in Toronto and would love to visit the country one day and visit other cities like Quebec city, Montreal, Vancouver, Ottawa etc.

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  Год назад +1

      Yeah I agree! 😃
      I hope you get the opportunity. Toronto is its own beast of a place haha lots on the go there. I really enjoyed visiting Ottawa, Montreal, and Quebec. A lot of really big epic rivers out there that you don’t see as much on the Western part of the country.

  • @carlystevenson950
    @carlystevenson950 Год назад +4

    You’ll def have to learn to make meat pies before you move back! There isn’t a bad cup of coffee in NZ, I haven’t found it yet either in 4 years. Hard to believe now that some people in Canada really enjoy Timmies coffee, but I guess the price is right?! I still wouldn’t go back after being spoiled here.

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  Год назад +1

      So true! Haha well that’s good to know you still haven’t found a bad cup of coffee. I feel like I know maybe 3 people that legit like Tim Hortons haha most people go because of how quick and easy it is. I might need to invest in a good coffee machine when we go home haha thanks for watching! 😃🍻

    • @trudimclaren4301
      @trudimclaren4301 Год назад +1

      ​@donovankelly12 when I went to visit my partner in Canada, the first thing he did was go looking for an espresso machine for me because he knew I'd be so depressed about the coffee 😂

  • @richardcaldwell9160
    @richardcaldwell9160 Год назад

    Good comparisons Donovan - I love Canada, but only in the summer hehe !

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  Год назад

      Haha it's a bit of a different animal in the winter, eh! Not for everyone but I quite enjoy it up until about - 12. Cheers! 🍻

  • @91primera
    @91primera 5 месяцев назад

    Awesome to hear such nice things about our country bro. Love Canadians and hope to visit there one day!

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you! I hope you get a chance to visit Canada as well, there’s a lot to see!!

  • @Sujowi
    @Sujowi Год назад +1

    Well done Donovan, you made it to Napier’s coolest little pizza shop, Vincis! I’m so lucky it’s just down the road. Love your comparison with Canada. We win with weather and coffee, you guys win with your flag!

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  Год назад

      Haha yeah we got the better flag don’t we 😂🇨🇦

  • @Cypher_NZ
    @Cypher_NZ Год назад +1

    A lot of us also call desert, pudding. Another great video bro. How much longer are you here for?

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  Год назад +1

      Ahhh I haven’t heard that, interesting! Still TBD, February at the earliest of next year but likely a bit later!

  • @danharvey3096
    @danharvey3096 Год назад

    Firstly ill have to point out that ya got some editing issues on the list of NZ peaks there haha! Most of the "NZ peaks" listed weren't NZ peaks lol, such as "Mt Vancouver" ;) .. Other than that i wont fault ya! Nice Eddyline Brewery tee there too! Cant say I've had lots of their beer but I'm big on Duncans, Garage Project, & Urbanaut would probably be my consistent favorite craft breweries.. We're pretty lucky in that respect that NZ Hops are some of the worlds most sought after due to their fruity notes.. Good clip btw. I live in Christchurch & don't go up to Nelson much but it's a beautiful part of the world. Do the Abel Tasman Inland Track sometime. It's not the popular coastal track ya have to book ahead, but the one that goes over the range instead & is a B level trail, so it is free since it isn't a Great Walk, but it's absolutely stunning! be prepared for a big hike up though, it's high enough that ya get to alpine scrub & you'll see the odd Kea, even in the middle of summer! Do it from the afternoon, & stay a night at the first shelter, & you'll see the sun rise from across the bay, but behind the Nelson mountains, it's a pretty magical spot.. :)

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  Год назад

      Haha I don’t know what to tell ya, there’s a “Mt Vancouver” here in NZ named after George Vancouver.
      Duncan’s, Garage Project, and Urbanaut are all really awesome, those are arguably my five favourite breweries on the North Island actually haha
      Yeah I had a whole 8 minute section about the beer that I had to cut because it was way too long but I’ll be making a video about New Zealand beer and showcasing the hops in this area, should be a lot of fun. I can’t wait!! 😃🍻 thanks for the comment!

  • @PaulG.x
    @PaulG.x Год назад +3

    Jandals is a trade name for thongs or flip flops - Sandals are sandals.
    Jandal is a portmanteau of Japanese sandal

  • @Bailanat0r
    @Bailanat0r 7 месяцев назад +3

    Sandals and jandals are different things in New Zealand.

  • @laurencefraser
    @laurencefraser Год назад +2

    I should point out: You say sandles, we say... sandles. Unless you're talking about a Specific Type of sandles (which Americans usually call Flipflops, Australians call Thongs, etc.)... Those are Jandles. Originally a brand name derived from the strapping (whatever the technical term for that is) being very similar to that of a traditional Japanese Sandle, in contrast to the traditionally fairly common Roman Sandle (which were reasonably common summer footware for kids back in the day), or various other types.

  • @stewartlee8858
    @stewartlee8858 10 месяцев назад +2

    Ones a massive land mass and the other, archipelago.

  • @carlystevenson950
    @carlystevenson950 Год назад +5

    Also, in regards to lingo - took me a hot min to understand “I’m busting” I knew ppl were saying they had to go to the washroom bad but I took it as #2 only and kind of felt TMI at first. My kiwi partner says some pretty hilarious things like ‘I’m so hungry I could eat the ass out of a low flying seagull’ 😂😂 things are pretty different here haha

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  Год назад +1

      Lmao that just ridiculous, thanks you for sharing that 😂

  • @carrier411
    @carrier411 6 месяцев назад

    dairies - because back in the day before supermarkets were established they sold - dairy products!!! -wiki -The term dairy came into common usage in New Zealand English to describe small shops by the late 1930s. Perishables such as milk and eggs were formerly delivered to city households from a dairy farm; by the late 1930s, small shops stocked such produce, and the term shifted to describe these shops.

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  6 месяцев назад +1

      Makes sense! Thanks for sharing that 😄

  • @gregorylongmuir4036
    @gregorylongmuir4036 Год назад +2

    Love it thanks for the good reviews m8 new zealand loves ya 🤙🇳🇿😊

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  Год назад +1

      Thanks man!! Really appreciate that 🍻😃👍

  • @jonsmith6982
    @jonsmith6982 11 месяцев назад +1

    I live in sunny Nelson myself it's bloody hot hard to sleep at night i have no air con i live Nelson North by the sea it's an average 2 degrees warmer than Nelson city again no frosts even out here in Winter very mild i like that .I originally are from the west coast south island & i like than climate better not so hot but far more rain i miss the rain even you picked the right place to settle very little rain in Nelson like you say you can get more done i don't' even own a rain coat anymore .

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  11 месяцев назад +1

      Oh man yeah I don’t think I could survive here without AC haha no doubt the West Coast weather has you reminiscing. Yeah I’ve used my rain coat maybe twice in the last 4 1/2 months? Can’t complain!!

  • @robbysplinter9316
    @robbysplinter9316 Год назад +1

    I’m here in NZ from Canada living in Christchurch and I could not agree more with the terminology especially calling dinner tea when I heard it for the first time I looked at the guy like this🤨

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  11 месяцев назад

      Haha yeah it really took me awhile to figure that one out. Sounds like another British influence saying Canada didn’t get

    • @vampire1799
      @vampire1799 11 месяцев назад

      Would you recommend students moving in to New Zealand or Canada for s better life overall?

  • @cedricsmith8821
    @cedricsmith8821 Год назад

    I think if you look it up UV rays are not hot? I think heat comes from the lower frequency IR rays.

  • @zpe1200
    @zpe1200 Год назад +1

    when ever I meet a couple from the states/canada who have just moved here (dunners) I always warn about the UV even at 18c.

    • @carrier411
      @carrier411 6 месяцев назад

      absolutely. NZ is geographically closer to the sun in summer than the equivalent in the northern hemisphere, add in the ozone hole and that's why we have some of the highest rates of skin cancer in the world!

  • @The_Absolute_Dog
    @The_Absolute_Dog 11 месяцев назад +1

    Donovan - "Well that was like a little adventure to nowhere"
    Stunning scenery behind him - "wat"

  • @purefoldnz3070
    @purefoldnz3070 4 месяца назад

    calling dinner tea is a class thing, basically the upper class had literal tea the same time the lower class ate dinner.

  • @peterferan4389
    @peterferan4389 Год назад +2

    You forgot to mention that every park entrance in Canada has big signs warning about bears. How about having to have your food hoisted up a tree to protect against bears and lions.

  • @laskinov
    @laskinov Год назад +1

    Or where else in the world that if you live in Auckland, in winter you can drive 3 hours south and go skiing, and in summer head north for 3 hours and fish for Marlin...

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  Год назад +1

      Good question! Hadn’t heard that one yet 🍻

  • @tweedataf
    @tweedataf Год назад

    nice vid :-) Im in Nelson too. Near the beach :-)

  • @snakeplayz-69
    @snakeplayz-69 5 месяцев назад

    i think alot of the slang you mentioned in the end is mostly from the south island as i have never heard of most of that, maybe im just sheltered as i have lived in auckland my whole life

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  5 месяцев назад

      Yeah it totally could be from majority of the South Island, that’s where I ended up working and talking to more locals on a day to day basis.

  • @inquizitive1
    @inquizitive1 5 месяцев назад

    Yo awesome vid bro I’m from Auckland but heading to Vancouver in a few months to see if it’s somewhere where i could bring up a young fam. What do you think? Dumb idea😅

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  5 месяцев назад

      Hey thanks!! As someone who’s lived in Vancouver for almost two years I can say it’s such a beautiful city but extremely expensive to live in. I know Auckland is in the same boat so if you’ve got dual incomes/ good jobs and can make it work than good on ya. The semi-affordable cities in Canada lie east of the Rocky Mountains and exclude Toronto, and from what I’ve heard recently, Ottawa as well!

  • @tonymartin9938
    @tonymartin9938 Год назад

    I have never said please sing out. It has always been just call me or whatever. Where do these guys get from?

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  Год назад

      No hey? I feel like between talking to customers, suppliers, and different team members from Auckland through to Dunedin I hear it on a weekly basis

    • @trudimclaren4301
      @trudimclaren4301 Год назад

      I definitely say that. I'm from Dunedin

  • @davel4708
    @davel4708 Год назад +4

    Let's face it, Canada and New Zealand are both great countries.

  • @MountainGuerrilla
    @MountainGuerrilla Год назад +4

    most of the colluquialisms you mentioned are remnants of being a British colony, we'd have them all here too in Canada if it weren;t for the influence of our neighbours to the south.

  • @johanmeischke9189
    @johanmeischke9189 Год назад +1

    Lol love the kiwi venacular😂

  • @Sadder302
    @Sadder302 Год назад +1

    Good shit brother

  • @Rajabbutfamily555
    @Rajabbutfamily555 6 месяцев назад

    Is trudeau in Nz ? Asking for friend

  • @brittanymorgan09
    @brittanymorgan09 Год назад +2

    Great video!! There's still some word differences here that catch me off guard haha. Good as, sweet as, easy as, everything "as"...as what?!? Lmao 😂. "Choice" is another good one 👍

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  Год назад +1

      Ahhh the “Easy As” and “Sweet As”! How did I miss those… thanks for saying that 😃

  • @debeeriz
    @debeeriz Год назад +1

    one thing nz does not have is any dangerous land animals apart from humans and some domestic dogs, there is no wild animals that can kill you, if you go camping it the woods the biggest threat is the weather. it can turn nasty very quickly

    • @laurencefraser
      @laurencefraser Год назад

      There are, in fact, a few parts of the country where you have to be careful about wild pigs and deer. There's also a couple of poisonous spiders (though you have to intentionally go out of your way to actually encounter them, and further still to have them attack rather than flee).
      But yeah, most places there's nothing but the (apparently uncommonly tricky) weather... and the natural disasters, of course.

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  Год назад

      Yeah that’s very true, you don’t have to worry about bears or cougars on any given hike and though there is deer in certain areas, people don’t drive like there’s and threat of hitting one.

    • @carrier411
      @carrier411 6 месяцев назад

      well wild pigs might kill you but would have to be a hunter to come to any grief I imagine.

  • @donnamaben775
    @donnamaben775 Год назад

    Your a crack up. (You make me Laugh). Actually my favorite RUclipsrs are all Canadian....Shaun Walford - The Story Till Now ftom BC, Shawn James - My Self Reliance ON, Peter and Carolyn Van Stralen - The Epic Family Road Trip, ON. Epic Adventure Outfitters - The Ginger, BC.

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  Год назад

      Glad to hear it, Donna!! Lots of great Canadian RUclipsrs out there 😃🍻🇨🇦

  • @thearchers8384
    @thearchers8384 Год назад

    my favourite difference in terminology is took = beanie

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  Год назад

      Haha yeah I quite like that one too. I feel like most of the world uses the term beanie but I don’t know for sure!

  • @theunknownunknowns256
    @theunknownunknowns256 Год назад

    I just realised we call "meat pies" pies and what North America calls "pies" fruit pies. Also you guys call Kiwifruit "Kiwi" which is somewhat confusing to a Kiwi. We don't call Kiwis "Kiwi bird" cos we just know from context. Australia's call us Kiwis too, but we call the Ozzies as do they themselves not Kangaroos. Likewise we don't call Canadians maple syrup.

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  11 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah I can’t help but say meat pies because pies are always refereed to fruit pies.
      You can call me maple syrup all day.

  • @hellcat3522
    @hellcat3522 Год назад

    It's true there are few sheep per capita, but the percentage of meat per sheep has increased as farming tech, breeding has progressed. One thing that blows my wormhole is how absolutely crap the cheese is here in NZ when the nation prides itself on such a powerful dairy industry. Strange.

    • @trudimclaren4301
      @trudimclaren4301 Год назад

      It's because it's illegal to make cheese with unpasteurized milk here (as they do in France), so you can't get the level of cheese quality the makers would want. However, if you're comparing it to Canadian cheese, we must have been shopping in very different places, because I couldn't find cheese as good as in NZ. Depends on the type you like, I guess!

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  Год назад +2

      Yeah that’s interesting because I haven’t had any issues with cheese here! It’s different but I don’t think it’s any better or worse. I’m pretty easy going with cheese though haha

    • @hellcat3522
      @hellcat3522 Год назад

      @@donovankelly12 aint Tilamook tho!

  • @Totally-Colbybrock
    @Totally-Colbybrock Год назад +1

    as a new zealender my self i can say in summer ITS STINKIN HOT

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  Год назад +1

      Ahh good way to put it haha I’m a little scared to see just how stinking hot it gets

    • @Totally-Colbybrock
      @Totally-Colbybrock Год назад +1

      @@donovankelly12 yeah its not that bad though

  • @mohammedbinladen4619
    @mohammedbinladen4619 Год назад

    I have never heard anyone say "under the pump"

  • @johanmeischke9189
    @johanmeischke9189 Год назад

    Yeah getting behind a cattle truck is not that pleasent either lol😂

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  Год назад

      True, not that pleasant! But I don’t know what it is about these sheep transport trucks, it’s like a whole new level of discomfort I’ve never experienced before

    • @johanmeischke9189
      @johanmeischke9189 Год назад

      @@donovankelly12 yeah well I'm from the Waikato, dairy cow central. Sheep not only stink to high heaven, they're also mind-blowingly stupid, phenomenally irritating and difficult to Handle. Dairy cows and even bulls are a dream by comparison lol

  • @gissyb1
    @gissyb1 11 месяцев назад

    Winterise a vehicle? Like how? Nope not in nz... we put anti freeze/coolant in the car 😊

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  11 месяцев назад +1

      Winterizing a camper (Like a motor home or a pull behind camping trailer) in Canada needs to be done every fall/ autumn so the lines don’t freeze up! As for personal vehicles yeah it’s the same thing, we have antifreeze and coolants. Thanks for watching 😃

  • @janejohnstone5795
    @janejohnstone5795 10 месяцев назад

    I imagine weather better in New Zealand....same type of people.

  • @blackPowerranger_
    @blackPowerranger_ Год назад

    well, NZ looks great, but what about freedom? is it like us or..... I just really want to know before I migrate

    • @carrier411
      @carrier411 6 месяцев назад

      freedom has become limited due to JABcinda Adern's govt co vid response. totalitarianism rules now. no jab no job was enforced for some time and doctors and nurses still need the jab to work as far as I know. I expect it to get worse.

  • @johanmeischke9189
    @johanmeischke9189 Год назад

    Yeah oublic facillities aka toilets used to be disgusting

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  Год назад

      They seem pretty cleaned up now!

    • @johanmeischke9189
      @johanmeischke9189 Год назад

      @@donovankelly12 thanks to people like you who travel thousands of miles to come here

  • @oliviamatheson5601
    @oliviamatheson5601 Год назад +1

    I'm from NZ and I didn't realize Ute meant utility vehicle 😂 It's just always been a Ute to me. And I have no idea why we call dinner - tea, but it does confuse everyone

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  Год назад +1

      Haha oh there you go then, semi educational!! I was told Tea might be more of a SI thing but I find it amusing 😃

    • @robertmurray8763
      @robertmurray8763 Год назад

      A lot of New Zealand words are the same as Australia.
      Chook (chicken) is another.

  • @RM-ti8nf
    @RM-ti8nf Год назад +2

    Stuck behind one of those stock trucks was what turned me vegetarian. So over our mistreatment of animals 😭💔

    • @donovankelly12
      @donovankelly12  Год назад +1

      I could see that!

    • @justinpreid
      @justinpreid Год назад +1

      NZ as a whole is better than most with animal welfare. Our farming practices are world leading. No where near perfect buy we're always striving to be better.

    • @carlystevenson950
      @carlystevenson950 Год назад +1

      @crittersandcretins 100% I am vegan too. NZ could use to be a little more vegan friendly (especially on the west coast or anywhere rural) but I’ll take what I can get!