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Making a Good Fence for the Cheap Jointer
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- Опубликовано: 6 мар 2015
- Replacing the cheaply made tilting jointer fence with a good and reliable homemade one, that doesn't tilt.
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You are a very smart, engineer minded young man with a very good knack for solving problems. I always enjoy your videos, they are very well done and the way you narrate what your doing makes them flow very well. I feel like I learn something every time I watch.
Cool, thanks for this nice comment!
Hehe... 2 years later and projects, production and narration skyrocketed :D
Nice work. Always a joy to see a tool improved by the user, using available materials.
I've not had a problem with the fence on mine... but if I do this will be my solution, I really like how it's moveable. Great job, thanks.
Good show Marius, I’m working with wood 44 years there’s just no end to it, keep up the good work!
Excellent Job. A good solution which is well thought out and well executed. Nice work. Thanks for posting this build.
Nice job. I have the same jointer and have identified the same issue with the fence. I'm glad to have found this. I think I will be making myself one in soon. Thank you
The jointer fence came out very nice. Great job!
Well done on all of your videos, you do well on every one I have ever seen and I have never missed any bit out. You have a lot of good ideas keep it up.
Nice build, thanks for your time in making these videos
Great work, especially with the free hand band saw cuts! I'm going to be using the existing bracket for my fence and the only part I will be changing is the actual fence structure itself using melamine so it glides well. keep up the good work
Nice upgrade, I don't think you'll miss the tilting function. Great work.
Great build. I will use this for inspiration when building a new fence for my own jointer.
Thanks Marius. I'm gonna get myself one of these cheapie jointers and this mod will be the first thing I do.
I am always impressed by your intelligent solutions an builds. Brilliant.
Exactly what I was planing to do with my similar machine. Thank you!
Great video! I have a cheap jointer/planer combo too and I'm going to give this a try.
Nice! I have a similar problem (old jointer fence not square). Thanks for the ideas!
Nice work using your skills to make this tool even more useful.
Barry's Workshop Thanks, but I wanted to make it usable, not more useful. ;)
Great upgrade to the jointer. The box joint jig looked like one of Mathias's designs like I am building
WoodRodent You're right. It is one of these.
Exactly what I was planing to do with my similar machine. Thank you!
Genau das was ich auch benötige, wenn ich meine Maschine erstmal auspacke und überprüfe.
Vielen Dank für Deine Mühe. I´ll rebult it if the Time will come :)
Thanks for that - I have a similar model & so far I have just screwed a piece of 19mm plywood to the existing fence - even this has improved it (but your way looks better)
good job . I'm am an old carpenter with over 35 years of building under my belt.. I was thinking . why did you not make the fence longer? .. keep up the good work my Brother and God Bless
Love the last scene, workshop tetris. Great video.
Excellent work. This is a great solution.
Thanks for share...A good idea for my planner..From Argentina
Great idea I have the same model I will look into doing something similar as I do not need anything other than 90˚
Great job Marius!
You're a genius of carpentery
I like your videos. Very well explained
Nicely done my friend :-)
Greetings from Belgium
Erik
Excellent Marius.
Klasse gemacht, danke fürs zeigen
Thanks for sharing this. I like to put a chamfer in the bottom of home made fences for better registration in a dusty environment. You may have done that or there is a gap between table and fence, i couldnt tell from video.
simply superb. many thanks .. I can see that I am going to have to do likewise with my *very similar* J/P
I love this so much!!!
Well done!
good work man
Sorry i dont speak ingles.but your work its very profesional..congratulations!!!!!!!!
*Just as I expected I have nothing bad to say about this jointer **MyBest.Tools** make a solid clean and level cut and adjusts in increments of 1/8ths and 1/4s I ran stock 2"x4" x8" at 12' long and had no issue.*
Great job. Thank you.
Gutes Video. Ich schaue jetzt seit ca. 2 Jahren Holzwerken-Videos und frage mich wieso ich nicht früher auf deinen Kanal aufmerksam geworden bin. Weiter so.
Naja, meinen Kanal gibts ja erst seit einem 3/4 Jahr.
Bloody nice. Thanks
I think someone is a fan of Matthias Wandel :p
Thank you, useful.
Well done....
Thanks for sharing! I have the same jointer, but the issue I'm having is that when edge jointing, the stock comes out concave. I.e. there is less material in the middle of the stock so when I want to edge glue it there is a larger gat in the center. What can I do? I've adjusted the knives according to the manual (using the provided tool) but the problem remains.
very cool!
great project and great video; can you tell which brand and which model is that planer? thanks
Thanks for sharing! Awesome fence. I have the exact same model, and also made a new fence, although it's not adjustable like your version, so I might copy a bit from your design ;) However, the thicknesser is also not parallell to the cutter head. Do you have the same problem? If not, do you have any ideas of how to fix it? I'm planning to make some kind of longer base, but it would have to be made completely parallell to the cutter head. Thanks :)
2015, still deep in the 'sleepy voice' Hornberger era
That is a very good solution. I have the same planner and the same problems.... But don't you have problems with the knife that they can touch the fence when you raise them?
houtjeboom No. Why should I raise the knives? And if so, the fence is out of wood, so no problem for the knives.
When you provide commentary it reminds me of the narrator voice from spongebob.
AA_powered Hahaha. I wear an eye-patch next time ;)
This upgrade is just awesome! Gives me the feeling I might buy such a cheap model and upgrade it. On the other hand I might buy Metabo's combo machine (but it's quite expensive and heavy...)
How does the thiknesser work? My friend has something similar to your model and he says it's not very exact (it's hard to adjust the desired thickness) and it sometimes moves a bit, so after planing a lot of wood the first and the last piece are no longer the same
thanks for the great content, I really enjoy your videos (also due to your simple and clear naration) :)
jakoball Well, that's the price you pay for a cheap machine like this. I didn't run into major problems with the thicknessing so far. If you can (enough money, space...) get the metabo.
Now that you've had this jointer/planer for the last two-ish years, what gripes do you have with it? If you were looking to get a jointer and planer, what would influence your decision-making?
Bravo!
I have exactly the same problem with my fence :)
Very nice solution. I have picked up a big jointer i need to restore, its fence are just a peice of wood. Will look into your design when i restore it and see if i can use that. Thanks for sharing.
Sidenote, i have a lot of the same plywood with laminate (here in denmark its used for trailer floors or concrete molds). How did you remove the laminate ?
Michael Pedersen sanding...
Hi Marius, nice idea. Do you also use the thickness planer function? It seems more complicated to change the mode to planer now, isn't it?
Yes, I use as much as I use the jointer. And it's still the same as before if I want to change between the two functions.
Marius, I've had a look but can't find a vid about your box joint maker at 2:40, do you have one please? Thanks
Hello Marius - i am looking to buy my 1st planer / jointer combination but all the new (cheaper) brand machines seem to have good and bad reviews. Can you perhaps recommend some models which you think may be a good investment? My budget is £400 (450 euros) - Thank you!
I got the same machine thanks for that I will have to upgrade mine the original ones are rubbish
Great idea and video. It's been six years now... Would you recommend this machine for a diy person?
Yes
anyone agree that he is a young version of matthias wandell
Alonzo Mejia he does reference mathias especially for his band saw
+Marius Hornberger : What is the price and ref of the original jointer?
are your infeed and outfeed table co-planar? my infeed table is sagging at far end from the cutter block. I wonder if I'm unlucky with my unit or it is just designed that way and replacement will not sold the issue. If your jointer has the same fault are you able to get wood perfectly flat and square? thanks
no, they aren't fully coplanar. My boards come out slightly concave.
What is the band saw blade what is the kind or type ??
Гениально! 👍
Good fences make good neighbors.
I just bought totally the same machine and like you I made the extension bed for the planer.
However every time I pass a board trough, the knives always eat a large chunk, mostly at the end sometimes at the very front.
I thought I screwed up the extension, but it does it also without it. Did you ever have this? Do you know if it can be adjusted in any way?
+737ngxsim That's called snipe. You can't avoid it on a machine like this. Have the same issue sometimes, but not very noticeable.
Opps... towards the end (15:30)
Hast du auch ein Video über deinen Schiebeschlitten?
Are you still using this machine? I have the same one in different "brand" but it is the same machine. How long boards are you able to joint on it?
great video!!!!
which planer is it?
i need advices to buy one
mick szym This one: woodster pt 85
Marius Hornberger thanks a lot...and thanks for your videos!!!
What brand was this jointer?
I already own a commercial jointer which joints up to 50cm but i need another small one for my second work shop and a kitty or any other decent old planer isbt really something i found sofar..
+0j0nn it's woodstar (China stuff). I wouldn't get one of these.
Moin,
gut umgesetzt!
Wo hast du das Teil eigentlich erstanden bzw was für ein Hersteller ist das?
Jay-Tech Marke: Woodstar ("made in China" halt) und von Ebay Kleinanzeigen
good solution, which brand is the machine?
João Costa woodstar
Danke Ganz toll. Eine Frage ; ich suche eine Bauanleitung für das Tool mit dem du die Fingerzinken sägst, mit dem Drehzahnrad. Kannst du mir da bitte weiterhelfen. Danke und Grüße. Kurt
+Kurt Gar woodgears.ca/box_joint/plans/index.html
Dankeschön
Really nice job there Marius. I only found this video on ur channel today and now I see it's 7 years old? Jesus H Christ man.. This thing has been around this long? Do u still have it mate?? If u do is it still working fine or did u throw it in the trash??
I have one and found it to be ok. The only problem for me is that damn fence the put on it. I unfortunately was too stupid at the time of purchase and I also bought the TITAN TABLE SAW.. LUAO at me now everybody in this comment section. I don't trust it to cut anything bcos I feel like it'll take my fingers off with the board I'm attempting to cut.
Anyways I've only owned both about 5/6 months or less. I think i WAS CRAZY AT THE TIME TO BUY THE tABLE SAW BUT i DIDN'T KNOW ANY BETTER AND IT WAS CHEAP WHICH SHOULDA TOLD ME MORE THAN i KNEW ..
I'm going to replace the table top 2morrow. I have all the kit to replace it but it'll be plywood or MDF, 18mm. The only upside is the blade is 80mm height at 90 Degrees which I 'm willing to lose that with the New top for better safety and cleaner cuts with better mitre slots/tracks and a great Mitre Gauge from China.. One of those expensive one from Wnew or something with the clever locking on each angle.. IUt has a lovely Brass handle which sold it to me.. hahahahahahahahahahaha! I'm easily pleased as my woman tells me constantly. She tries to tell me sex once a week makes me happy but she has no clue that I pay for hookers every day after work.. Ugh! I wish she'd just give in and let me pump the life outa her every night. She'd be so much happier if she'd just allow me that little pleasure and I know she loves it too.. haha!
I'm buzzin' of course.. She lets me pump her 2/3 times a week.. LMAO,, Ok this went a bit too far. Apologies for this weird shit bro. I love pumping my missus even if she is a frigid geebag. I drive her head through the headboard once a week..
What brand is it? powerplus?
+Jörgen Börg Woodstar
"And after removing the black laminate..." Hast du die Beschichtung einfach abgeschliffen?
Jonas4747 Ganz genau.
Hey Top!! Ich habe praktisch die baugleiche Chinamühle von Scheppach. Da ist der Anschlag zwar etwas stabiler, genügt allerdings trotzdem nicht meinen Ansprüchen. Ich wollte auch etwas ähnliches bauen! Bist du mit deiner Version jetzt komplett zufrieden oder sind dir im Betrieb noch Dinge aufgefallen die du ändern würdest? Ich habe mich bisher gescheut weil er dann nicht mehr kippbar ist, andererseits brauche ich das praktisch auch fast nie! Wie sind da deine Erfahrungen? LG Norb
Naja, der Dickentisch ist etwas klapprig und zu kurz. Da werd ich wahrscheinlich auch nochmal was für machen. Zufrieden ist hier glaub ich relativ. Die Maschine tut das was man von ihr erwarten kann. Das einzig halbwegs störende ist die Oberfläche der Tische. Etwas "rillig" und deswegen gleitet das Holz nicht so super drüber. Die Kippfunktion war mir total egal. Lieber zuverlässige 90°, die man immer braucht, statt unzuverlässige 90-45°, die man so gut wie nie braucht und für die es auch andere einfache Methoden gibt.
Ja da hast du schon recht, man muss ihn praktisch nie kippen! Es gibt extra Gleitmittel damit das Holz besser rutscht, viele verwenden wohl auch Wachs!
Hab ich auch versucht. Bringt leider nicht viel, weil die Grundoberfläche nicht wirklich glatt ist.
Where did you buy the blade that you use for the box joint jig?
I can't remember, but any saw blade works.
Marius Hornberger do you use a ftg saw blade(flat top grind)
What is the tickness of the material that you use.
Tomas Dupont Ebbesen 15mm
12 Inc jointer roler where shop & buy to India delivery
What other adjustments did you have to do to it? I have one like this but the local version.
Adjusting the blades (and resharpen them), making the thickness table parallel to the cutter head and adjusting the chain tension that moves the thickness table.
Did you do that by studying it and figuring out or you used some references or articles? Thanks!
I figured it out by myself.
Thank you very much. Greetings from Argentina!
Is zwar schon alt aber jut 👍 👍 👏 👏
Ich mach das bestimmt noch, also meine Maschine auspacken und in Betrieb nehmen. Glaub ich...
Schön Grüße von Ingo vom Das3-in-1Senioren-Bingo.
for woodworking
Where can I find the template on 3:45?
pmenegatos check the video description of this video: ruclips.net/video/RRdr16loUSg/видео.html
hi marius, i have excatly the same jointer. as yours. do you have any plan to can share with me?
No, I just built this on the fly. And I don't have this jointer anymore
Thanks for the answer. waiting for your made in germany videos..
Hast du schon mal die Messer getauscht bei der Maschine? Waren bei meiner Ausführung schrecklich ausgerichtet und ärgere mich jetzt schon lange herum sie in die richtige Position zu bringen.... Hast du evtl einen Tipp bzw Lust ein Video zu dem Thema zu machen? Ineteressiert sicher viele, wenn man sich anschaut wieviele sich hier für die Maschine interessiern oder eine haben.
LG
+HansOverdose Ja, hab ich schonmal und auch ein Video darüber gemacht: ruclips.net/video/jAl3-L1-W5c/видео.html
2:38 - Matthias project?
Yes.
A question, though. Why does the fence need to move?
Thomas Lovén When you're edge jointing you can use different parts of the cutter-head.
Marius Hornberger Ah, yes. Of course! Thanks!
Marius Hornberger By the way. I have a similar machine and made a longer table for the thickness planer by just screwing two cleats onto a piece of plywood. Really recommend it. Does wonders for the snipe on short pieces.
I planned to do something similar, but didn't had the time yet to make it.
looks like a woodgears.ca fan
Well, who isn't?
It's not called a jointer and a planer.
It's called a planer and a thicknesser....
What has jointer got to do with it...
I don't see any joints
Why would you need to have a cheap planer when you obviously have a well appointed workplace with 1st class equipment???
It's a shame you lost one to two inches of table space, I'm surprised you allowed that.
Time for a refit to get back what you have lost and maybe make it full length?. ;-)
btw - I'm guessing a three bladed cutter is better then a two bladed cutter?
Can you swap out a two for a three bladed cutter?
I didn't loose table space. Still the full capacity. The cutterhead can't be changed.
Looking where the original (flimsy) fence was versus the new one it looks like the new fence is taking up more table space (3/4" minimal?).
From what you have said the face of the new fence is in the same place as the original. That's good. :-)
I still would have made it full length. ;-)
Hey warum machst du die Videos auf englisch? Du bist doch deutscher.
Marius machst seine Videos auf Englisch Weill das mehr Abonnnten gibt. Ich bin Däne, spreche aber sowohl Deutsch Als English und ich finde das Marius Videos sehr Gutes inhalt haven.