Retaking Pakistan-occupied Kashmir A Pipe Dream Or Very Much A Possibility?| In Our Defence,S02,Ep24

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  • Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
  • The election season in India is heating up, and the rhetoric around Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir (PoK) is becoming increasingly prominent among politicians. No surprises there! Assam Chief Minister Himanta Biswa Sarma recently addressed opposition allegations of constitutional changes by emphasising the government's focus on integrating PoK into India. Echoing this sentiment, Union Home Minister Amit Shah affirmed that PoK is "part of India", highlighting that people across the border in PoK are calling for freedom.
    Since May 10, PoK has been experiencing significant unrest, with traders protesting against high electricity and food prices. Similar protests occurred in August 2023 over high electricity bills. External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar commented on the ongoing unrest, contrasting the situation in PoK with the relative stability in Jammu and Kashmir.
    In this episode, host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor delve into Pok's history and politics. They discuss whether the topic of Pakistan still resonates with Indian voters and examine the feasibility of politicians' claims about reclaiming PoK. Are these assertions even possible? The duo explores the practicality of India potentially reclaiming PoK and managing the aftermath. How realistic is it?
    What hypothetical actions or operations might India undertake, and what strategic or other purposes would these serve?
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    Timestamps:
    01:46-02:34-Introduction
    02:34-10:02-Pakistan still sells to Indian voters?
    10:02-15:11- Does occupying PoK make any strategic sense?
    15:11-25:15-The practicality of occupying PoK
    25:15-30:51-Why Siachen holds so much value to India
    30:51-33:22-Why do we have the army deployed at LOC?
    33:22-42:42-Wargaming strategy: how do we recover Pok
    42:42-49:04-Do we need to resolve the PoK issue?
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Комментарии • 61

  • @robinsingh1937
    @robinsingh1937 2 месяца назад +3

    Amazing episode once again. To the point, informative, no masala. This series is my best source of information these days It's surprising that you don't have more views and likes. Keep grinding....
    One request, can you add snippets of maps when you are explaining geography. This will help viewers understand the situation better.
    Best of luck for future episodes. I am sure you will have millions of likes very soon

  • @binnystanley86
    @binnystanley86 2 месяца назад +2

    Dont need pok with huge Muslim population coming to India. Pok is a small area with huge population, we need to take back Gilgit-Baltistan, india will get stragic areas and good resources

  • @mahabaleshwarpandit2378
    @mahabaleshwarpandit2378 2 месяца назад +6

    Very good and appropriate plan. Let people of PoJK revolt against illegal occupation of Pakistani forces.

    • @urrasscal8380
      @urrasscal8380 2 месяца назад

      ghanta nahi chahiye pok dimag kharab hai iindia pehle se iislamb se parashan hai aur iislamb lana hai tereko but if u can take lland only not ppeople then it 's ok specially gilgit baltistan ..

  • @RajaLakshman
    @RajaLakshman 2 месяца назад +2

    Pak returning Pok to India in return for economic ties which they need?

  • @PramodPandit-yz9ni
    @PramodPandit-yz9ni 27 дней назад +1

    This is a pretty silly analysis. Absent India becoming a major economy, there is no reason for any Pakistani wanting to "join" India. Ministers making political statements without the wherewithal to carry them out is simply politics. These guys don't get it.

  • @SunShine_747
    @SunShine_747 2 месяца назад +1

    Russia unable to take few territories of Ukrain after all these years do you think India has the capacity?

  • @vasanth2807
    @vasanth2807 2 месяца назад

    Good insights👍👍

  • @annasaabchitta
    @annasaabchitta 2 месяца назад +1

    अरे भाई, कौन होस्ट है, कौन गेस्ट है? उनका क्या बैकग्राउंड है? उनका राजनीतिक जुड़ाव है?
    कुछ तो बताया करें, कृपया

  • @vidhikalaria8201
    @vidhikalaria8201 2 месяца назад

    Podcast request :
    A detailed episode on PM Modi's spontaneous visit to Pakistan.
    *The rationale behind the visit
    *Security challenges
    *Havings balls to land in Pakistan😅
    *Assuming it was Pm`s firat term , was it naive of him to do something like this
    * The action plan if anything went wrong
    And any other pointers you can think of.
    Not much in extreme detail is supposedly available on the internet about this .

  • @Puranasanditssecrets
    @Puranasanditssecrets 2 месяца назад

    Actually, we can get Tesla to set up an EV factory there and since Article 370 B part which permits business in J & K and we can involve the whole of POK and the rest to be employed. Give a 59 year or more lease or something for setting up a sprawling manufacturing company. Before the Pak military even dream of attacking, Pak's people, those with relatives this side can also be employed. So, it will minimise any ill intentions. After all their economy is down and out. So, with the new rules of citizenship in place, we can screen the people who come in. So, as you said, we can have the whole world coming together to solve the problem. I know it's a dream, but just thinking aloud.

  • @COSMICTUNECOMM
    @COSMICTUNECOMM 2 месяца назад

    We r not USA Russia China or even France Israel. We r not capable to take back lost territories. After Kargil war we r gone for sleeping mode. Only dialogue

  • @swarnim-raj
    @swarnim-raj 2 месяца назад

    I believe once ISI starts meddling in Uighur affairs for US dollars when Chinese come demanding returns on CPEC, Chinese might be willing to allow India to silently take over without a 2-front war situation.

  • @rizwanhussain645
    @rizwanhussain645 2 месяца назад +2

    Shiv you project yourself as an strategic expert yet you are unaware that GB does not border Afghanistan as Malakand agency of Kpk Pakistan separates the two.Regards

    • @SaikatB
      @SaikatB 2 месяца назад

      Well, I just checked the maps, and I can clearly see GB bordering with Afghanistan along the Wakhan national Park region in AF..I don't know what map you are looking at..I am looking at Google maps. To be sure, I checked using VPN from different countries, since that border is disputed, but every version shows GB to have a common border with Afghanistan. Malakand is further south to this border.

    • @rizwanhussain645
      @rizwanhussain645 2 месяца назад

      @SaikatB Wrong, I have travelled here extensively! GB does not border Afghanistan, a strip of Upper Chitral separates the two.Regards

    • @urrasscal8380
      @urrasscal8380 2 месяца назад

      @@rizwanhussain645 whatever mmoslims are neither kkashmiris nor chitralis because in iislamb u guys only have umma ka chumma identity.

    • @rizwanhussain645
      @rizwanhussain645 2 месяца назад

      @urrasscal8380 So Egyptian Muslims are not Egyptian, Turkish Muslims are not Turk ....Shows your level of ignorance Mandirchaap!

    • @SaikatB
      @SaikatB 2 месяца назад

      @@rizwanhussain645 Then obviously someone is not following the UN recognized international border.

  • @msdev2718
    @msdev2718 2 месяца назад

    “China keys you do it”, this mentality needs to change. We need to take what’s ours.

  • @djsunshine1
    @djsunshine1 2 месяца назад

    Remember one fact...that Kashmir's accessions to India were signed by Mount Betton, Nehru and the King of United Kashmir.. including Gilgit Baltistan! British army personnel took up the weapons and took the possession of Gilgit Baltistan and gave it to Pakistan (for administration)! During all these episodes Indian and the Pakistanies were prohibited to have & use weapons! So it was the British betrayal that caused this situation! Remember that Pakistanies also used an excuse of 'Kabilies' invasion to Kashmir ( of course Pakistanies army personnel in the plain clothed)...that led to this current LOC! Possibly It was the British who led Nehru to bring this dispute to the UN! It's well-known that the British would betray India any and all Day...Now all that needs to unwind... before the UN has any moral authority over India and the global south!
    The UN is the failed institution any way... either they reform (& recognize Indian veto power in the Security Council)or face the Universal exedus of the Nations from the UN!!!

  • @KaranG-by1yw
    @KaranG-by1yw 2 месяца назад +1

    Shiv aroor, dissing MSA for:
    1. talking about india pak,
    2. projecting himself as an intellectual
    3. talking to a podcast
    While shov aroor himself creates fantasy projects on podcasts. hypocrite person

  • @rohanvasha
    @rohanvasha 2 месяца назад

    all four states of Pakistan needs freedom. sindh, kp, Balochistan, Punjab

  • @bhootpurvmanusya
    @bhootpurvmanusya 2 месяца назад

    this man was apparently in upa govt's surveilance list i wonder why.

  • @prakashkatira6000
    @prakashkatira6000 2 месяца назад +2

    What about jihadi public?

    • @rizwanhussain645
      @rizwanhussain645 2 месяца назад +1

      I ask the same question in regards to all the millions of Mandirchaaps residing in Junagadh which is legally speaking 🇵🇰 territory.Regards

    • @urrasscal8380
      @urrasscal8380 2 месяца назад

      only land those people living there r iinvaders .

  • @djakaonlineacct3634
    @djakaonlineacct3634 2 месяца назад

    Why are we discussing it? Its highly unlikely in near future. Plz focus on relevant topics.

  • @rizwanhussain645
    @rizwanhussain645 2 месяца назад +2

    AJK/GB has never ever been an physical part of the "Rep of India"!

    • @urrasscal8380
      @urrasscal8380 2 месяца назад +1

      first of all mmosslims are kkashmiri u guys only have umma ka chumma concept not kashmiri-sashmiri concept.

  • @mariusyanthan4426
    @mariusyanthan4426 2 месяца назад

    Why don't you ask other parties the subject for your viewers???

  • @abhijitghosh5662
    @abhijitghosh5662 2 месяца назад +1

    Can adani ambani recover pok?

  • @user-ks2gw7ui8b
    @user-ks2gw7ui8b 2 месяца назад

    China take india land first take back that 😂

  • @KrishnaKumar-nv9vy
    @KrishnaKumar-nv9vy 2 месяца назад

    Pipe dreams are for cowards ………Not for the BJP

  • @krishnaj5365
    @krishnaj5365 2 месяца назад

    You are wrong fellow. Pak is emotive issue even in south.

  • @EraserofGoodHandwriting
    @EraserofGoodHandwriting 2 месяца назад

    China Occupied Tibet 🙌

  • @indermethil
    @indermethil 2 месяца назад

    I get he's new...please, and i mean this in the best possible way, please stop with the fillers "uhh"

  • @KaranG-by1yw
    @KaranG-by1yw 2 месяца назад

    Shiv aroor is exaggeration personified!

  • @user-ks2gw7ui8b
    @user-ks2gw7ui8b 2 месяца назад

    😂keep dreaming what a pointless,baseless talking but one point is proven GODI MEDIA 😂

    • @MANOJKUMAR-cu2cc
      @MANOJKUMAR-cu2cc 2 месяца назад

      no wonders you are without guts that's why you hide by using your stupid user name.

  • @bengaliproblem4339
    @bengaliproblem4339 2 месяца назад

    Whole Kashmir belong to Pakistan

  • @tayabmian2107
    @tayabmian2107 2 месяца назад +3

    Fantastic tea is ready for our Indian brothers welcome 😂

    • @gokul.s.g2665
      @gokul.s.g2665 2 месяца назад +7

      Really how about 93000 surrender 😂 1971 ,bro think 1=93000🤡

  • @rizwanhussain645
    @rizwanhussain645 2 месяца назад +2

    If AJK/GB is an integral part of 🇮🇳 then Junagadh is legally an integral part of🇵🇰...and as the SOVEREIGN of Junagadh we never ever authorised the illegal plebiscite that was held there.

  • @lavaniasbylines2565
    @lavaniasbylines2565 2 месяца назад

    Hi, many retired civil servants often say that India and Pakistan were very close to reaching a permanent solution for the Jammu and Kashmir issue during the Manmohan Singh govt. And it was similar to accepting the current LoC as the permanent border. My question is why can't India be at peace with the fact that the state has been trifurcated between India, Pak and China? And are we ignoring the fact that in Pak, PoK is the only factor on which their political spectrum comes onboard and they will not hesitate to launch a suicide mission with nukes if India attempts to take back PoK?
    Secondly, why only the Uri surgical strikes and Balakot? The Hindu reported about Operation Ginger which was carried out by the Army during the UPA govt. The tactical operations had been conducted earlier as well, why do we not quote them as often as we quote Uri and Balakot?

    • @rehanarya3854
      @rehanarya3854 2 месяца назад

      Pakistan is not in position to use nukes and their nuke program is exaggerated. We have all tech to stop incoming missiles and we are further developing. PoK and gilgit baltistan or north laddakh is not just our part but also a layer of extra protection against Chinese aggression, Pakistan is nothing without one of the fathers.

    • @rehanarya3854
      @rehanarya3854 2 месяца назад +2

      Uri and balakot because they were large scale operations after much anticipations and expectations. And as a result you see Pakistan well understood not to do nonsense on Indian soil anymore. It happened early too on small scale but it didn’t had that impact

  • @hishamhashim7070
    @hishamhashim7070 2 месяца назад

    keep dreaming lol

  • @thetruthrevealed9849
    @thetruthrevealed9849 2 месяца назад +2

    Continue to have a dream to capture Azad Kashmir, but you never will , even though Indians army is much larger than Pakistan, but Pakistan always matched India in strategically, and now it's a double edge sword that you have China on the other side, no matter what propopanda you may feed that Azad Kashmir wants to be a part of India, but the reality is we all Kasmiris are with Pakistan to the last drop of blood.

    • @biggpicture2930
      @biggpicture2930 2 месяца назад

      China wants land back from India and kashmiris prefer pak.