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- David Mitchell rants about television credits!
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You know those credits which disrupt your television viewing pleasure at the end of every programme? Squashing the show you were watching into one half of the screen, whilst a voice speaks over the music, what on earth are they thinking?
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Oh Netflix is a bugger for this, not exactly the same but just as the film finishes and you're digesting the ending and contemplating the movie as a whole, while listening to credit music we can only assume the film makers have given much time and thought into being perfect for contemplation, then BANG! You now have 10 seconds to fling aside the beer and snacks, locate and grab the remote or else Netflix is going chuck some loud, brash advert for a show you are never going to watch straight into your face! And you'll never find out who the nice looking lass was who played second milk maid from the left!
I normally read comments in my head in a bland, midwestern American accent internal monologue voice, but this one came out in the angriest, poshest British accent I've ever heard my brain attempt to invent on the spot.
Top Milk Maid action!
Strave I thought s/he sounded vaguely northern to me!
This does my head in and I disable autoplay for this very reason. You can almost guarantee that, after you've watched an emotional, challenging film that the credits will roll with sombre strings and you're left pondering profound things, you will be interrupted by an Adam Sandler comedy.
And if there was a post credits scene you want to watch you have to start the whole movie again and fast toward all the way to the end only to accidentally go too fast and miss it so you have to try _again..._
I feel the same with radio presenters talking over the end of songs.
AMCT 101 this shit drives me crazy
I once heard a DJ talking over the intro to a song to tell us what a great intro it was.
Yeah, that's even worse, I'd say. Uh.
Or a worse crime, presenters that talk over a song halfway through just so they can fit more adverts, the worst sins of this however is heart fm which do this constantly
When we were children my friend used to record songs from the radio, fair enough you might say but 15 years later we still have to listen to these poorly cut songs on his phone.
I once had a continuity announcer talk over the end of The Return of the King, not the credits, the actual film. Frodo and Sam were having a moment and the person from channel 4 thought that nobody would mind because there was no dialogue. I have never been more angry at the television.
they were just trying to distract from hobbit homoeroticism in keeping with broadcasting guidelines
Kistmet, Mr Frodo
Or when actors talk about THE FILM YOU ARE JUST ABOUT TO WATCH during the credits
Neville Tomatos
I don't think Channel 4 has broadcasting guidelines. It's mostly just shit on a canvas or indeed the pavement if they couldn't be bothered to get a canvas first.
Neville Tomatos q
"Live slow, die eventually.... " - David Mitchell
Live fast die yo gnu.
"die yo gnu." Did a passing gnu distract you at crucial moment and you had to shout out "Yo, gnu!" Or were you in such a hurry to quote a rock star whose been dead for 60 years that your fingers got confused and produced a typo. I think I've watched too many episodes of David Mitchell's Soapbox in a row. I'm starting to mimic his speech patterns.
You've contracted Pedanticaris Mitchellus. No known cure.
Words of wisdom
Trying to read two scrolling texts while listening is hurting my brain.
And there I am reading the comments as well
I realize that I am unable to focus on both satisfactorily, which my cynical mind infers that this is a blatant ploy to increase "views". Still, DM is dope AF.
"Live slow, die eventually, leave an indifferently attractive corpse, that's my motto.". I heart David Mitchell!
I once watched this really intense multi-hour, multi-part documentary on World War I. And it ends on this hard downer note about the horror of war, with one of those suicidally grim Great War poems/diary entries or something. And it's this one about how while a skull with its jawbone attached is sort of cheerful in a macabre way, a jawless skull is just the abyss of death staring at you. And while some real serious English voice reads this the camera pans spookily slowly closer and closer at a photo of such a skull in a trench and its this big devastating spine-chilling culmination about how we must always remember that war is a terrible thing and never to be treated lightly or entered upon casually. And then just as the screen goes dark and the thoughtful old-timey credits music starts to play the fucking continuity announcer shoves the credits to the side and starts on the world's loudest, bro-iest advertisement for the fucking blue angels acrobatic flying military airshow. WAR MACHINES ARE FUN AND EXCITING!! THE MILITARY IS FUN AND EXCITING!!!! TICKETS ON SALE NOW!!!!! LOOOK AT THEM GO!!! WHEEEEE!!!! PEW!!! PEWW!!! BOOM BOOM!!! (nothing against the blue angels but it was just a face-slapping moment)
I feel your pain.
"Rabbi Fluffer" almost made me fall off my chair. Pure brilliant...
I was just glad I didn't have a mouthful of beverage, else it would now be adorning my computer
Hee hee, that was my favourite too.
lol, I had to watch this twice, once to hear the rant, and the second to read the hilarious credits.
Yeah, me too, thanks to that loudmouth Mitchell yammering over the damn things!
I did it the other way round.
I only realized halfway through that there were funny things in the credits, and went "AH DANG, NOW I GOTTA WATCH IT TWICE" XD
Dave has hit the bullseye here. I'm really sick of continuity announcers talking over everything.
My 3rd grade teacher taught us the watch the credits as they are JUST AS IMPORTANT as the people on camera -- their own talents are part of the effort presented be they camera operations, sound, wardrobe, makeup, editing, etc. They are just as much professionals are "the talent".
'How is someone who talks over the end of Morse ever going to find a partner'... I appreciated that, thanks. Lmao.
I was having so much fun reading the silly credits I wasn't listening to what Mitchell had to say.
HOLY CRAP I DIDNT NOTICE THEY WERE ALL JOKES
Rabbi fluffer.
Chippie:
Simply the Best Fish.
Perhaps the secret is to watch it twice?
"Grrr...focus groups!"
Do you like having more choice?
I know I am a bit late to this but trust me if someone invites you to a focus group, go. I do them all the time the tories gave me 50 quid and a pint to go over campaign slogans, gave them shit feedback and bought weed with it as soon as it was over.
@@basstedson so your shit feedback could be responsible for the voice over interruptions. Well, I hope you enjoyed your drugs.
@@Andrew-yl7lm In all of history there has never been a finer quarter than the one I bought with money I scammed off the tories.
Brilliant. Brilliant. Brilliant. Oh, David Mitchell, it's so nice to see a famous personality rant to the masses about things which people find annoying but fear are too mundane to voice concern about.
“Who killed WHOM,” surely.
Master of the Universe: He Man.
"Alright, obviously this is not a big deal. But it is a small deal." - This marvellously and delightfully sums up these amazing series and the precise reason why we love them.
In Australia at least (and probably everywhere else I guess as our networks copy everything), I was recently astonished to see some have just taken the decision to abandon credits all together. At the end of their shows (even scripted drama episodes), they just throw up a quick flash frame, accompanied by an ad for a different show, with 0.5 seconds of text that says "For a list of credits go to our website"!! 50 people involved who worked hard for a career in television now don't get even any mention at all. Basically treated as admin staff. Unbelievable!
It's not like the average viewer cares what the people who made the show is called. If you're looking to employ someone or something, you should be willing to make the effort of going to a website to find their name. The viewer has already payed for the channel, they shouldn't be forced to watch an advert for a bunch of editors and cameramen.
Upvoted just for Inspector Morse reference. Great show.
I find it rude to obscure the credits. They are there to both inform the viewer and give acknowledgement to those that created the show. Imagine the pride of being the make-up assistant's mum, finally seeing her offspring's name on the telly and then suddenly seeing it shrunk to near invisibility. Just plain rude. Admittedly now that we have IMDb it's less imperative that we see them unencumbered, but it's still the televisual equivalent of rudely talking over someone's little bit of glory. And whilst I understand that commercial channels have to advertise, the BBC doesn't- so stop it.
Czech TV channels: In dubbed foreign programmes a voice reads out the czech cast and production credits.
The national Czech Television just cuts the credits and replaces them with a bright orange screen that just features the lead roles and the director, maybe the dubbers, some ambient music and lasts about 5 seconds. While it seems more civilised than the English way, it also rips you out of that mood.
And I remember in the early 2000's we even had short spots when an announcer in front of the camera (!) talked a bit about the film that was to follow...those were the days.
The internet shouldn't factor into it. The credits are there to give credit to the people who worked on it. Heck, somebody worked on the credits themselves . Their works just gets squished and talked over. Just like David said, it's not the biggest deal in the world, but it does seem weird to just ignore the credits and shove in your own junk, whether it's announcing the next programme or advertising for some product.
My sister was once bit by a moose.
What flavour?
Dash.
You should have hired a better moose co-ordinator
Nice Monty Python reference. Truthfully, you should feel honoured to receive a "love nibble" from a moose. If they're mad at you they either charge at you and try to toss you with their horns or they try to trample you with their hooves. And since they weigh well over 300 kg that usually doesn't end well.
My sister's a bit of a moose, any takers?
I remember crying as the credits rolled after the documentary Senna.
I'm so glad I was watching it on my laptop ... I'd have hated that genuinely profound moment to be ruined.
"Stalin's Wackiest Purges"
Announcers? Ads? In my country they don't waste time with that nonsense - they just start screening the next show, in split-screen, alongside the credits from the last show. Really adds to the immersive experience of watching CSI: Insert City Here when it's crammed into a little frame underneath the credits from Ramsay's Kitchen Tantrums. And should there be even a ten-second delay after the last show ends, they'll put up a countdown on the screen (alongside the credits) to reassure you that the next one will be starting in 10, 9, 8...
What country is that?
7,6,5,4,3,2,1 *CSI MUSIC ABRUPTLY STARTS*
I once had a Cinema worker ask my group to leave while the credits were still rolling, because they needed to prepare the next show (we were the last people left). I initially protested, but we couldn’t exactly refuse, so I missed most of the credits that day.
I wrote a disgruntled email to the Cinema as feedback and they agreed the Cinema worker was out of line. Didn’t do me much good at that point, but it was nice to feel vindicated.
I like Inspector Morse. Have been watching it since I was 10. Am now 22, and have continually liked Inspector Morse for the duration of the entire last twelve years. I am feeling quite proud of myself for being so cultured at such a young age as to enjoy a show like that. I am, however, even more proud of myself for never, at any point during my teenage year, did I ever stop liking Inspector Morse. I never cared if watching it made me seem odd or uncool. And English isn't even my first language!
"Peas keeper!"" Sense maker!" See how much information titles have!!! XD
Rarely do I ever 'rewatch' a youtube video, most warrant deleting, but to watch this one, one and two thirds times is astounding. First with sound, second on mute and the middle third on mute until there was only David on the Screen. then with sound a completion of rant and explosion. I Love RUclips.
Years of watching the end credits on shows imprinted the name "Ken Morse, Rostrum Camera" into my mind.
This is the best video on RUclips until I find the next one that's the best! Seriously, I have actually given up TV, and one of the main reasons is this blatant disregard that broadcasters now seem to have for the idea that someone might want to watch a programme or film IN ITS ENTIRETY. So yes, I've actually bitten the "shit end of the Mars bar", and yes, I am proud to say that I spat it out, never to buy another. TV can get stuffed until it learns some good taste again.
This is the best one yet. Half way through, crying with laughter and I haven't listened to a single word yet.
Another good reason to wait through the credits he could have mentioned is that some movies actually have an extra scene after the credits finish :)
Had to watch this twice; one for David and the other to read the amusing credits.
The worst is when it's a show that has an additional "bonus" scene during the credits (or just bloopers from the filming of that episode). Nothing is more infuriating than having an actual part of the show talked over because whoever edits together the lineup wasn't paying enough attention to see that, no, this is not an appropriate place for a splitscreen ad.
Somehow this is one of David’s most aggressive rants
"Here, here."
Don't get me started on Cinema automation and how it has become the norm for the lights to come up at least fifty percent, if not fully as the credits commence. I assume to assist the rude, lazy bastards who aren't interested in giving Bert the Gaffer or Sarah the Rotoscope artist their proper due. We wouldn't want them to stumble and hurt themselves, because the film's finished (it hasn't) and they need to get out and call that friend/loved one they've been texting for the last two hours. Sharing the distracting glow of their little screen with us, while we would rather focus fully on that middlingy sized screen they charge us double the price to view then they did two years ago and have the cheek to call, "The Big Screen Experience".
they advertise peep show box sets during his credits
I fucking agree. Nothing worse than sitting there sobbing after something sombre drama then HEY GUYS! NOW, TOP OF THE POPS RE-RUNS! WITH 100% LESS SEX OFFENDERS! WOO! crashing over the pleasant music.
"Give me money and I'll go!" Haha and the hand action as well, that made me laugh.
I had to play this back again to read all the amusing credits and announcements scrolling by
I have the same thoughts, except regarding those credits you usually see on American reality TV - the ones that go at lightning pace and last about 5 seconds. What's the point in crediting people if you can't read their names?
So they can impress their friends with freeze frame?
That makes me fucking spew.
its not that bad on those shows
watch kids shows like trapped, they zoom it accross cause its mainly kids watching
I am a natural American citizen, and I always watch the credits for everything I watch. I am often the last to leave a movie theater because of this, even when I know there is nothing special after the credits. When I watch a series on Netflix and the credits crunch up into a small box, I expand the box again to watch them. I watch them on DVDs, and when I play a video game, and there is a "Credits" option on the main menu, I always select that option one time. I see it as an sign of respect.
In the States, the credits are shrunk to about 1/5 the width of the screen, and then run through at twice the speed. They can only be read by recording them on a VCR and then reviewing them frame by frame. The person talking is usually the local news announcer teasing the next local news broadcast. That's one reason the credits have to be over in 30 seconds, no matter how ridiculous that is.
If there one thing I'm a pedantic about. It is that I must watch The Credits to the very end to find out the date.
David Mitchell is BACK ... the past few episodes were lacklustre, this one he rants WITH his fierce funny attitude, haha!
Plus, the conceptualisation was great.
i really like this topic because it reminds me that david thinks about some really obscure things to rant about, in such a charmingly hostile way. cheers from san diego mr mitchell.
Similar thing happens on the radio. You hear a song that you like and those freakin' radio hosts never shut up.
it must be satisfying to basically build a career around passionately voicing all the viewpoints you develop. Crafting them with precision and wit for other people's entertainment.
Some of the networks go the extra step of starting the next show while the credits for the last one are still running.
That's in addition to a promo for some other show that takes up at least a quarter of the screen with little people hopping about like leprechauns.
The little news crawl is what gets me though, invariably I look down at it just in time to read "...with worldwide implications of disaster to follow in the evening." with no idea of what the story was about
easily the most passionate yet
This is definitely amongst the best of these soapboxes
That explosion at the end scared the shit out of me.
Quite depressing that this is now 9 years old and still people are writing to TV stations to complain about squeezed credits and inappropriate voiceovers. Will the bastards ever listen to their viewers and stop doing it?
I'm not that bothered with credits, but I hate booming voiceovers over the music. Therefore I am more likely to switch over as soon as the credits roll, and so it has the opposite effect from what the channel wanted.
The explosion at the end scared the bujesus out of me.
I don't know what it says about me, but my mind jumped immediately to the "extortion" angle.
If they had done this over the credits of the final episode of Six Feet Under there would have been a riot. The showrunners specifically redesigned the end credits and commisioned a new song to be composed so they could play the credits slower. A continuity announcer at that point would have been like if your spouse had just died and someone immediately ran up to you and shouted "THERE'S OTHER FISH IN THE SEA!" Is that not the kind of person you would punch until their face inverted?
I can't imagine Star Wars without hearing the almost irish continuity announcer telling me that the next star wars is coming on tomorrow at the end, to the point where i find it a little bit sad when he's not there when i watch it on amazon.
This is really clever, because I've just had to watch it three times, to get all the jokes. Once to listen to what was being said, once to read the credits & then again to read what was going across the bottom of the screen.
You crafty sods, three times the viewing figures.
been waiting for this all day!
You have to watch this at least twice, once to listin to David and once to read the job titles :)
I re-watched this multiple times.
This final speculation is in fact EXACTLY how modern advertising works. Ads on your fav youtube channel? Pay to not see them by signing up for premium!
Signed up to premium but sick of seeing constant promotions for the Music app? Download the app!
Signed up for premium and downloaded the music app, but sick of seeing promotions for the family upgrade?...
And so on. Apply this to literally every single product being advertised to you. It's always, 'well, this is just a TASTE of how unannoying this experience could be! Imagine how unannoying it would be for only $4 more per week?!'
Yeah, I only caught about three words of that, David. I was too interested in who your Peas Keeper and Best Whip were.
It's scary how much i agree with these soap boxes...
What is the Rabbi doing that they need a fluffer?
No one 'needs' a fluffer, but no one ever turns one down...
That Rabbi sounds like he's too cool for shul.
Aside from your disastrous choice for Sense Maker, this video was delightful.
This is one of those reasons I'm glad I don't live in the UK. I get annoyed on the odd occasion there's an advertisement for another show that pushes the credits to the side, but that's not all that often.
Great rant, as usual. On an unrelated note, being an American, I'd never heard of "Inspector Morse." I just rented the first episode and it was absolutely wonderful. Thanks David Mitchell!
i realised half way through that the credits and the bottom of the screen were jokes and i was just in time to see chav riots, i had to pause the video until i stopped laughing!😂
swear not being able to see the credits is the reason for half of imdb's traffic.
'Pain supplier' hahahahhahahahahahha - every work place has one!
"Live slow, die eventually, leave an indifferently attractive corpse". Coincidentally enough, that's my motto as well.
Technically the credits are part of the program. I know this because when I buy shows on DVD, there's always credits. And I know that credits are important, because otherwise they would be cut out entirely, instead of just squished. Honestly it feels like something sleazy is going on.
It's especially annoying when they do it over end credit extra footage like the mistakes made during the filming or epilogues going on whilst the credits are scrolling and they ruin it announcing a subsequent program we already know is on next because most televisions tell you whats on "now", "next" and "later" when you're selecting it.
"Odd position position coordinator". that has to be the coolest job ever
Best rant of the series!
Not just the end, but the beginning credits are being affected by These Modern Times In Which We Live. I miss when there was a good solid nearly 1 min. opening credits sequence to get you into the mood of the show, with a memorable song. Twin Peaks had about 2 minutes and thirty seconds of intro, it gave you time to grab your afghan, a hot water bottle, maybe even some tea and a biscuit. You can't go from America's Funniest Home Videos to evil B.O.B. without psychological preparation.
Damn, I was reading the credits and not paying attention. Had to watch this again.
I record Star Trek Voyager at 7am instead of 5pm because in the morning they don't shout over the calming music which comes after a heart-warming story of aliens finding somewhere they belong. I don't care what's on next because I can't watch it because this show was recorded a couple of days ago.
This has been the best one of the new series. He's actually pissed off this time instead of just pointing out inconveniences and illogicalities. Yay!
Best part is at 2:09 when Davids hand goes off screen and appears in the credit screen. So clever!
Watched the video once, watching David, then watched it again just to read the credits. PRICELESS.
Event preventer. KEY event preventer. 😂
0:52 Pain Supplier? That's one hell of a job title.
How a paricipant in a film or television production is represented in credits can be part of their employment contract. It is up to the producers of the show to ensure those contracts are honoured.
Box sets are even more annoying, they first assume you stole and are going to share the whole thing for 5 minutes every time.
Love the green screen work at 2:09
I got distracted by the credit titles and had to re-listen
First i listened to what David said, and now i'm going to watch the "credits" :3
Respect for Chris Cummin the "Junior bear wrangler"
I had to watch this video twice because the first time through I was reading the credits while something was talking off to the right.
They do this in the U.S. too, but not so much in the high budget primetime dramas and the like. In the U.K., it seems practically universal. Also, in the U.S., continuity is generally just trailers or other prerecorded content; I've never seen dedicated announcers prepare viewers for the next show like on British TV. It does seem pretty pointless.
Of course, on radio, continuity is of imperative importance, and I think they do it everywhere.
Great-now I have an uncontrollable craving for a MARS bar.
I like that the credits said Master of the Universe - He Man. Along with all the other funnies n_n
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Credits: Snot Designer, Associate Frankfurter, Motion Sausage, Assistant to Toad Docter!
does anyone actually watch the credits?
Credits are largely pointless. How many other things do you have to be informed about who contributed to the production? Did your car come with a long list of people including the guy who screwed the window winders on? No. Does your burger come with a little card to let you know who squeezed the dollop of ketchup on? No. So why is the entertainment industry so obsessed with this ego stroking activity? At most, the actors, the director and the writer(s) deserve a credit (and in these days of the internet, you could even manage without that).
I'm sure we'd all like to be able to inflict our ego on others but most of us just do the job, get paid and nobody hears any more about it. It's only really the entertainment industry that felt this entitled. These days of course, you can pretty much just skip it but there was a time when it would take up 3 minutes of unskippable airtime. Especially egregious when there were fewer channels available. These days, of course, you can just ignore that nonsense and go on to the next show if you have a decent setup. Though that information is more suitable for a website anyway. Just put up a QR code for 5 seconds and be done.
Very often.
Yes
I got to 'Rabbi Fluffer', then I broke.
Oh, you mean generally? It happens, if the music's good.
as long as i can read the credits i don't mind when somone announces the next show, what annoys me is when there's a video clip playing alongside the credits that i want to watch is muted and yelled over -.-
I couldn't agree more! However, when an epic film is put on TV, one that has at least a good 5 minutes of never-ending credits thanking set assistants from 43 different global locations, then it's definitely an issue of one format not suiting the other. Most TV programmes only have approximately 30 seconds of credits, if that, so then presenting the audience with a credit reel as long as children's programme or news bulletin is going to be a major turn-off/channel flick!