What's New & Different in Tokyo Mirage Sessions

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  • Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024

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  • @marcoolivier5594
    @marcoolivier5594 4 года назад +330

    “Persona 5 is like a 50 hour game”
    Pfffp yeah sure, took me 130 ish hours to do everything

    • @RomnilWater
      @RomnilWater 4 года назад +26

      My last playthrough of P5 was about 108 hours and i max out all the confidants (without a guide which I'm stupidly pleased about).

    • @sombrego2260
      @sombrego2260 4 года назад +20

      Yeah I am usually very quick to finish game and it took me about 110 hours for my first playthrough

    • @andr0zzsenpai
      @andr0zzsenpai 4 года назад +39

      50 hours? I doubt he finished the game lol

    • @Twilord_
      @Twilord_ 4 года назад +11

      Tokyo Mirage Sessions took me 110 hours to complete... though I'm starting to wonder, due to the comparison, how much of that was due to load times.

    • @frickthefuckoff
      @frickthefuckoff 4 года назад +25

      Persona 5 is NOT 50 hours. Haven't watched, but whoever said that is high. It's a huge consensus that 100 hours is the average playtime.

  • @Tank207
    @Tank207 4 года назад +115

    "Persona 5 is a 50 hour game "
    John Cena: Are you sure about that?

    • @Jrpg_guy
      @Jrpg_guy 4 года назад +1

      Escanor: Who decided that?

  • @RobRmanX
    @RobRmanX 4 года назад +48

    I'm so excited for TMS on Switch. The game is super fun and hope people will take a chance on this game ❤️
    Also I love they added back in Tsubasa's glasses from the concept art that got cut before release on Wii U. It's a nice touch!

  • @wolfdude1623
    @wolfdude1623 4 года назад +79

    TMS is such a weird game. Like, it's a crossover between Fire Emblem and Shin Megami Tensei, but I feel like it doesn't really capture what either of those franchises are all about. I'm just so confused as to how and why they decided to mash these two franchises into an idol anime.
    It's still a really fun game in its own right though. Super excited to get it on Switch!

    • @mi2-c035
      @mi2-c035 4 года назад +16

      The gameplay is all Megaten inspired. It's just used in a different setting and different story and Fire Emblem characters.

    • @METC500
      @METC500 4 года назад +8

      that, and the conversation system sounds very fire emblem

    • @kyokusanagi9800
      @kyokusanagi9800 4 года назад

      To be honest its better this way, it only mixes SMT mechanics with FE, and their Personas are FE characters, while having its own story even though FE influences it a bit, IDOL theme is well know here in JP, but i understand why western people hate it since its not really their target on this theme and why the game got backlashed hard from both franchises fans, BUT thanks nintendo for porting it out with additional content after the shit the game received, more people should play it, to know how good it is.

  • @RomnilWater
    @RomnilWater 4 года назад +105

    I love that BelleAim has been joining the discussions lately. She adds a really interesting perspective to the the different games since I'm assuming she hasn't really been heavily involved in games journalism previously. (do correct me if I'm wrong).

  • @Teremei
    @Teremei 4 года назад +88

    Switch has been a never ending stream of RPGs for me. Went from DQXIs to Witcher III to Ni no Kuni, now TMS is about to come out!

    • @Abal0n_
      @Abal0n_ 4 года назад +6

      You should try Atelier Ryza, it's a pretty cool and relaxing game.

    • @jacobradabaugh6241
      @jacobradabaugh6241 4 года назад +5

      I wish I had enough time for all those. I didn’t really give RPGs a chance until I played Earthbound and Fire Emblem Three Houses lately. I’m now playing through DQXIS and am having a blast. I’m excited to see more of what the genre has to offer in the future.

    • @Teremei
      @Teremei 4 года назад +2

      @@jacobradabaugh6241 nice! If you just recently played Earthbound for the first time. Here's a couple of my absolute favorite you must play. Final fantasy III(6), Chrono Trigger SNES. Lunar Silver Star Story, Suikoden PS1, Phantasy Star IV genesis, Shadow Hearts Covenant PS2.

    • @nintendogejpeg
      @nintendogejpeg 4 года назад

      How is Ni no Kuni? It looks sooo cute and fun!

    • @otetas69
      @otetas69 4 года назад

      @@nintendogejpeg Its a very cute and relaxing game, due to how easy it is and its simple combat. The story is okay, but it has its charm. I just wish the game would let you figure out stuff on your own instead of explaining all of its puzzles to you. I would say to get it on discount.

  • @Whirlwhind1
    @Whirlwhind1 4 года назад +16

    I love this game, but it has a pretty slow start. I think it starts to really take off once you get more characters to session with, especially once they get the ability to session from outside the active party. Ad-Libs and Duo Performances unlocked from character episodes are also super good and can trigger a second, or even a third session if you're lucky.

  • @TheJR7360
    @TheJR7360 4 года назад +13

    As someone who hasn't played Persona 5, I'm glad to hear that this games dungeons are the best before P5. Sometimes not playing an amazing game is an advantage as it doesn't color your expectations of other games in the genre.

  • @safarisonan3139
    @safarisonan3139 4 года назад +9

    I specifically remember at one point during the dungeon with the mannequins, I got cocky and tried to take on one of the purple mirages, subsequently got my a$$ handed to me and then had to do the whole puzzle over again XD

  • @thealcatrazzer95
    @thealcatrazzer95 4 года назад +7

    You could skip the mini-cutscene for going through the mannequins by pressing (maybe holding?) the X button on Wii U, which makes it really fast and not that annoying.

  • @vincentlance
    @vincentlance 4 года назад +22

    Oh wow, didn't realize how early I am, well thanks for the comparisons, especially as someone who has wanted to play the game but never owned a Wii U.

  • @tomico9154
    @tomico9154 4 года назад +38

    "Persona 5 is a 50 hour long game"
    Took me 100 hours first time another 70 in NG+ and now I'm 30 hours into a 3rd playthrough getting the Platinum.

    • @ludgermii
      @ludgermii 4 года назад +2

      SaicaFox we found out about the new game in April 2019 persona 5 came out in 2017. Of course people are going to do all of this before it comes out in March

    • @SakuraAvalon
      @SakuraAvalon 4 года назад +1

      SaicaFox Not really. If he does a third playthrough, he saves $60 and can go buy another game.

    • @wanderkun7349
      @wanderkun7349 4 года назад +1

      @@SakuraAvalon he's probably a atlus fanboy like the rest of these jesters here. I'm sure everyone in this comment section will buy Royal lol.

    • @digitool5944
      @digitool5944 4 года назад

      hell TMS was even 60hours at least, where the fuck did he get 50 for P5

  • @hydro5604
    @hydro5604 4 года назад +7

    It took me around 120 hours to beat Persona 5, My friend on his second play through was able to beat the game in around 50 hours but that was with him knowing everything to do, having all the Social Stats maxed out and Skipping through literally all the dialogue.

  • @orbitalkao3984
    @orbitalkao3984 4 года назад +7

    12:12 I couldn't help but think of Rasangan seeing this haha.

  • @MUSQUIZanimation
    @MUSQUIZanimation 4 года назад +19

    Oh! A 20 minute anime game discussion this early in the day? Don’t mind if I enjoy.

  • @Heather_no_numbers
    @Heather_no_numbers 4 года назад +3

    What I really love about Tokyo Mirage is that it reminds me of an old cartoon I used to watch as a kid. Jem. Not the sucky movie, im talking about the 80s OG Jem. Oh, next Friday...I cant wait! I miss Touma!

  • @SuperSnivMatt
    @SuperSnivMatt 4 года назад +2

    I was just getting into the FE series when this game launched, so it blew under the radar (For a lot of people actually. It was marketed weirdly and no one really knew what it was or what it was about) But I am SO hyped to play this. I got into FE really deep and its my favorite series, and I really enjoy the Persona/SMT series now. The music is wonderful, and though I am not one for idol culture and such, the game seems very interesting and fun. I am very happy to be getting this game soon

  • @grantsvoiceongames1992
    @grantsvoiceongames1992 4 года назад +10

    Tokyo Mirage Sessions = 60 hour game minimum.
    Persona 5 = Take your time. All 103+ hours minimum of it.

  • @OathKeeperRiku07
    @OathKeeperRiku07 4 года назад +25

    88 hours and only halfway
    you poor innocent inmate

    • @noneofyourbusiness1998
      @noneofyourbusiness1998 4 года назад

      This game is that long?

    • @giddthedevil1790
      @giddthedevil1790 4 года назад

      @@whitefox25 First time through was closer to 65 hours for me. Subsequent playthroughs are roughly 40 though

    • @123dundundun
      @123dundundun 4 года назад +1

      @@noneofyourbusiness1998 yup.. it can get really up there. I had to put it down for a while because its a huge time sink and I have college, but boy is it worth the time you invest into it.

  • @CronoEpsilon
    @CronoEpsilon 4 года назад +31

    After playing Persona 5, I have to say, I prefer Tokyo Mirage Sessions a great deal more.
    TMS is fun, doesn't really take itself seriously, and respects the players time.
    Persona 5 felt like the opposite and was ultimately frustrating to play for me.

    • @randallmart92
      @randallmart92 4 года назад

      Hey i totally agree with you. I prefer Persona 3 Portable and 4 Golden over 5 any day. Seemed more straight forward. 5 felt like a major task...i love 5 still but it didnt hold me like the others did. I will get Scramble since i love Musou/Beat em up games. But yea ill definitely be picking up this up when it drops.

    • @CronoEpsilon
      @CronoEpsilon 4 года назад +4

      @@randallmart92 I'd have probably enjoyed Persona 5 if it didn't rely on such outdated design choices and had better writing. I have too many major issues with the game to list. Though, its art, music, and presentation are striking enough for many to overlook those problems. Which is pretty sad imo.

    • @ictoan4258
      @ictoan4258 4 года назад

      Crono Epsilon which design choices? Just curious

    • @CronoEpsilon
      @CronoEpsilon 4 года назад +2

      @@ictoan4258
      - Joker dying is an instant Game Over regardless if you have healthy party members to revive him. SMT 4, Apocalypse, and Tokyo Mirage Sessions abandoned this years ago, and even Dragon Quest 11 makes this optional.
      - Instant kill spells are all useless. The MP cost is too great to consider using over All-Out attacks. Conversely, if a shadow uses one against you, all you can do is just pray it doesn't hand you the Game Over again.
      - Bosses don't have weakness. So, the Baton Pass (which is really the only new battle mechanic) is never useful in situations when it would actually matter most, opposed to the Press Turn system in SMT or the Session Combos in Tokyo Mirage.
      - Enemy reinforcements aren't always difficult, but they are random, can skip your turn, and can potentially wipe Joker even if you scored the enemy weakness beforehand. Essentially punishing the player for doing exactly what the game intended.

    • @ictoan4258
      @ictoan4258 4 года назад +2

      Crono Epsilon solid points, and fun fact: I believe smtva also had that mechanic if you went with the apocalypse difficulty and as far as I am aware every other persona game had it too

  • @sombrego2260
    @sombrego2260 4 года назад +4

    I loved the original but the loading time for random encounters were really obnoxious and I'm happy to see on the Switch images that they are pretty much non-existent so I'm really hyped for this and will get it day one! It's one of the few games that made me think "hmmm I should get my Wii U back from the shelf to play a bit". It's not a Xenoblade Chronicles, but it's still a fun game.

  • @GuitarzanPete
    @GuitarzanPete 4 года назад +4

    seriously my favourite rpg battle system of all time. I so wish Nintendo and atlas would do more of this

  • @JustinPinedaMedia
    @JustinPinedaMedia 4 года назад +17

    I absolutely hated how in the Wii U version the gamepad was mandatory even if you play with the pro controller.

    • @Tank207
      @Tank207 4 года назад +2

      It was a cute little gimmick, but forcing it and killing off-tv play was a bad decision.

    • @terryricks7151
      @terryricks7151 4 года назад

      I also hated that u can't use the pro controller on other games either.

  • @bender9740
    @bender9740 4 года назад +17

    "I've never played Shin Megami Tensei"... Yes you have, Persona 5 is a spin-off of SMT.

    • @Slaveknight_gael
      @Slaveknight_gael 4 года назад +1

      No she haven't, Persona 5 is a spin-off of SMT and not a SMT game.
      If you played Thronebreaker it doesn't mean you played Witcher.

    • @bender9740
      @bender9740 4 года назад +3

      New Model Thronebreaker is, if I’m not mistaken, still considered a Witcher spin-off therefor a Witcher game. Persona is and always will be a spin-off of SMT that features gameplay mechanics and the same Demons/Personas. Also Persona 3 and 4 were labeled “Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3/Persona 4”. Persona 5 is the only one that didn’t feature this label on it, but it’s still part of the overall universe.

    • @bender9740
      @bender9740 4 года назад

      New Model also the word you were looking for was “hasn’t”. “No she haven’t” is improper.

    • @Slaveknight_gael
      @Slaveknight_gael 4 года назад

      ​@@bender9740 Thank you for the correction. I could talk in my native language. I hope you'd make less mistakes in it.
      Also, Thronebreaker is a game set in Witcher universe with Witcher characters utilizing the Gwent mechanics; Gwent is a game in Witcher universe with Witcher characters based on the mini-game in Witcher 3.
      Persona is loosely based on SMT magic/demon system, that's all. There are no other points of connection.
      Witcher/Thronebreaker = Halo/Halo Wars (same universe/story as main series, different genre); SMT/Persona = Drakengard/Nier (despite similar genre, daughter series loosely based on mother series, not much in common, daughter series much more successful). As I said, playing Thronebreaker is not playing Witcher game; it is playing a game set in Wither universe.
      Also, like you said, Persona 5 is not called SMT: Persona, so, as I said, she haven't, and I stand corrected with "hasn't".

  • @williamumbranox7217
    @williamumbranox7217 4 года назад +2

    The sessions sound like an improved version of strange journey's battle system. I love the sound of that.

  • @petertilton7004
    @petertilton7004 4 года назад +6

    Bring the original Hyperdimension Neptunia trilogy onto Switch, also... you do not know stress until you meet M-Deus.

    • @MegaFirefox34
      @MegaFirefox34 4 года назад

      More Nep for Switch!

    • @giddthedevil1790
      @giddthedevil1790 4 года назад

      I've made it my goal to finally actually beat M-Deus in Encore. I've attempted him a few times on Lunatic but I didnt optimize my team properly so he always gets enough time to charge up his Dies Irae. I'll definitely be optimized by my second run

    • @petertilton7004
      @petertilton7004 4 года назад +1

      @@giddthedevil1790 I only beat him on Friendly. Just to get the challenge out of the way.

    • @giddthedevil1790
      @giddthedevil1790 4 года назад

      @@petertilton7004 I'm too stubborn to do it on anything other than Lunatic. On the bright side you've beaten him which is more than I can say. Do you get anything for beating him or just a play record?

    • @petertilton7004
      @petertilton7004 4 года назад

      @@giddthedevil1790 Yes, Itsuki's president costume.

  • @inuarma676
    @inuarma676 4 года назад +3

    Didnt buy it on Wii u because of the idol focus but im kinda having second thoughts now the switch version is so close

  • @Pit1993x
    @Pit1993x 4 года назад +9

    What's new and different in TMS for Switch? The japanese version is being vandalized by self censorship as well. :P

    • @digitool5944
      @digitool5944 4 года назад

      blame Japanese rating boards, Japan has also become stricter about pornographic content

    • @Pit1993x
      @Pit1993x 4 года назад

      @@digitool5944 I blame first and foremost the one's doing the self censorship or the one's pressing them to make the game despite that. Better put those resources in a game that can be released in an uncompromised form than doing stuff like this. At least that's how i see it. :/
      Not to say that i don't blame some rating boards at all, but they're secondary imo.

  • @wiiknight678
    @wiiknight678 4 года назад +14

    Can't wait for this game even though I owned a wii u I never gave it a chance though It still sorta sucks it's still not dubbed but it's a port so I won't give it that much flack

    • @CrobatmanIamthenight
      @CrobatmanIamthenight 4 года назад +1

      dub sucks

    • @wiiknight678
      @wiiknight678 4 года назад +9

      @@CrobatmanIamthenight Didn't ask for your opinion.

    • @fantasygaming8718
      @fantasygaming8718 4 года назад +4

      @@CrobatmanIamthenight That's just your opinion.

    • @DarkusFireBlaze3582
      @DarkusFireBlaze3582 4 года назад +6

      I kinda get the lack of a dub but I wish they did put subtitles in the battles

    • @CaptainGwil
      @CaptainGwil 4 года назад

      Very much potential for this game still!!

  • @L8RG8R2U
    @L8RG8R2U 4 года назад +4

    I’m so excited for Encore! This was easily one of my favorite Wii U games, so I’m really glad more people will get the chance to try it out

  • @DelphinSquared
    @DelphinSquared 4 года назад +4

    Having played half of the original game, I am glad people get to play this game now that it's coming to the Switch.

  • @markllanora5713
    @markllanora5713 4 года назад +4

    Hey guys quick question is this still 720p like wiiu or is resolution higher abit or?

  • @D00M3R-SK8
    @D00M3R-SK8 4 года назад +1

    ah cool, I was worried this was a rhythm, game, as the name suggests it music focused? a "P5-Lite" sounds absolutely perfect to me. I Got P5 for the very limited time I had a PS4, and I did play through quite a bit of it, so never finished it. Having a less regimented version of that would be a great experience.
    Also Hope the action version of P5 comes to the west soon, looks amazing.

  • @Warrenoh
    @Warrenoh 4 года назад +3

    Great guest!
    Very informative and well put through opinions!

  • @ShadowCero
    @ShadowCero 4 года назад

    So how extensive are the new additions to the game? You guys said the first EX chapter is really short, do they get better in length and add a little bit of meat to the package or are they mostly forgettable? From what you said with Tiki sounds like Maiko and Barry are also just gonna be random session add-ins which is pretty lame ngl since a new character to the party would be a really nice selling point for a remaster of the game. It's probably just gonna make the game easier too since it just up player damage.

  • @ArveEriksson
    @ArveEriksson 4 года назад

    TMS, Persona Lite? I agree completely - I would choose this comparison as well.
    (Just, uh, keep in mind that the Sessions will probably grow old during New Game+, when you don't need Sessions to roflstomp most of the opposition.)

  • @mechashadow
    @mechashadow 4 года назад +5

    So what you're saying is dust off the Wii U and get on the game there. Thanks, Jon.

  • @tytheguy13andahalf
    @tytheguy13andahalf 4 года назад +3

    How bad is the censorship?

  • @Stephen-Fox
    @Stephen-Fox 4 года назад +2

    Jon's really underestimating P5's length - I'm... 130 hours or so in, didn't finish, and am absolutely terrified to go back since my options at this point are trying to figure out what the hell I was doing or restarting knowing that there's 130 hours ahead of me to catch up if I do that.

    • @blueskydreams
      @blueskydreams 4 года назад +1

      I get the impression that he either hasn’t played P5 or he never beat the game. It took me 136 hours to beat P5 and that was over 2 years ago. Anyone who has played and beaten P5 would never underestimate its length. Even when going off from memory.

    • @organizedopinions8068
      @organizedopinions8068 4 года назад +1

      @@blueskydreams idk it took me around 80hours to beat it and 130-140 to 100% it.

    • @dracodancer3262
      @dracodancer3262 4 года назад

      145 hours for me, tbh I really don’t think he played the game in full

  • @danwaddledee390
    @danwaddledee390 4 года назад +7

    Even though this game is playing up the whole, " Japanese anime tropes" is pretty meh, but I never played the Wii U version, so this could be cool.

  • @goldenden929
    @goldenden929 4 года назад +15

    Never liked Fire Emblem,but this game looks amazing. Probably gonna try it.

    • @sombrego2260
      @sombrego2260 4 года назад +29

      It legit has nothing to do with FIre Emblem. There's like 9 random names that comes from Fire Emblem and the last dungeon is themed after Fire Emblem but it's a J-Pop RPG through and through. It's neither Shin Megami Tensei nore Fire Emblem.

    • @enderiss2031
      @enderiss2031 4 года назад

      Well you don't really feel the Fe side in the game but more the smt one, because it just has some Fe characters whereas the story and the gameplay really feel like in a smt game

    • @RobRmanX
      @RobRmanX 4 года назад +5

      Luckily, being into FE isn't a requirement for enjoyment. TMS is basically a diet SMT game with a stylish FE skin. Hope you like it ❤️

    • @Druid-T
      @Druid-T 4 года назад +4

      To be specific, the only parts of this game that are Fire Emblem are the names of bosses and the powers of the playable characters, not even the personalities. If the names were changed this game would have nothing to do with FE

    • @LAUTARO735
      @LAUTARO735 4 года назад +1

      @@Druid-T And that's the reason why is a bad crossover

  • @JustJulyo
    @JustJulyo 4 года назад +1

    Once I get through my 2019 backlog and wait for some sort of discount then I'll check this game out
    I remember when it first came out it was too off putting but now I'm looking forward its release and how everyone else will react to this game

  • @cesarswc13
    @cesarswc13 4 года назад +5

    Omg I love Tokyo Mirage Sessions and its story. I dont get what she says its a light story at all.

    • @evalynehicks343
      @evalynehicks343 4 года назад +4

      Don't kid yourself. TMS makes Persona 4 look like a spiked-jacket emo rockstar who screams metal about death and misery. Don't pretend like it has some serious, mature side to it when it doesn't.

    • @stormnightmare4378
      @stormnightmare4378 4 года назад +5

      Evan Hicks Yeah, it’s not as dark as SMT, but it doesn’t take itself that seriously, so it’s fine.
      And while it pales in comparison to most SMT & Persona games, it’s honestly way more enjoyable than P5.

    • @cesarswc13
      @cesarswc13 4 года назад +2

      @@stormnightmare4378 Subasa in tharja look awesome and all the mirages too, love the graphics and game play

    • @baileypalmer103
      @baileypalmer103 4 года назад

      I think she meant light-hearted.

    • @cesarswc13
      @cesarswc13 4 года назад

      @@baileypalmer103 Agreed , oh my God the music so good on this game I can't stop listening it's so good

  • @ninjaheart100
    @ninjaheart100 4 года назад +30

    Persona 5?
    HOW ABOUT SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI 5?

    • @dantemustdie00
      @dantemustdie00 4 года назад +2

      Which we know absolutely nothing about, tho Atlus has been teasing it on New Years on their Twitter.

    • @mi2-c035
      @mi2-c035 4 года назад +7

      Exactly they keep comparing it to Persona, when the gameplay is very much based on Shin Megami Tensei when it comes to dungeon structure and pacing, the combat is also entirely taken from SMT.

    • @ninjaheart100
      @ninjaheart100 4 года назад +4

      @@mi2-c035 sad when your side series outweigh the main. (Now it's just normies who haven't even touch jrpgs)

    • @mi2-c035
      @mi2-c035 4 года назад +3

      ​@@ninjaheart100 I'm okay with it (Atlus made it happen), but ignoring the history of a franchise, just because you only know Persona bothers me a lot. A 5 minute research on Wikipedia would have helped here, considering that Tokyo Mirage Sessions is a crossover between Fire Emblem AND Shin Megami Tensei.

    • @evalynehicks343
      @evalynehicks343 4 года назад +5

      The combat is actually more Digital Devil Saga with Fire Emblem's weapon triangle. *Learn your Atlus games peasants!*

  • @Charle_Z
    @Charle_Z 4 года назад +1

    I wanted to give this game a try on the Wii U, but was ever able to get it. Definitely going to pick it up once I can

    • @Jrpg_guy
      @Jrpg_guy 4 года назад

      I will finally get it hopfully tomorrow.

  • @inukaiya1509
    @inukaiya1509 4 года назад +3

    Time to double dip. Can't wait I love this game.

  • @Vonadu
    @Vonadu 4 года назад +11

    *kicks door down* Did someone say Persona 5 is coming to SWITCH!?! Wait, not, sorry *puts door back up* Continue.

    • @Nero7441
      @Nero7441 4 года назад

      In a way, it is but not something that we all want

    • @xxcocohontas6934
      @xxcocohontas6934 4 года назад

      I’m ready for Scramble! I have a PS4 so it doesn’t bother me much that the original isn’t portable, as long as I own the game is enough for me

  • @undine623
    @undine623 4 года назад +10

    I just want to know, still censored or not?

    • @pokedude900
      @pokedude900 4 года назад +22

      Not only is it still censored, but they went and censored the Japanese version to match the International release. The Japanese Wii U version is the ONLY way to play it uncensored.

    • @picolete
      @picolete 4 года назад +17

      The japanese returned all the preorders and started buying the WiiU version, was a top seller for a week

    • @Drewsefer89
      @Drewsefer89 4 года назад +2

      Yup! Still censored. Only way to play the game the way it was intended to play is by getting a Japan version of the game & Wii U.

    • @Pit1993x
      @Pit1993x 4 года назад +1

      @@Drewsefer89 There are mods to uncensor the international WiiU release of TMS. Let's hope we get something like that for the Switch release as well. If so, i might consider buying a used copy of TMS encore.

    • @Tomani02
      @Tomani02 4 года назад

      @@picolete lol

  • @AdamSaeed
    @AdamSaeed 4 года назад

    I was surprised to know that my Japanese understanding was good enough to know what they are saying in combat, but still I would’ve been grateful if they did a dub because reading is always burning me off, add to that the fact that they didn’t include a log so it’s way more stressful

  • @cesar_otoniel
    @cesar_otoniel 4 года назад +1

    I'm definitely getting this on launch so I can give a incentive to the creators while I play the uncensored version on the CEMU emulator.

  • @ArynBacklogDragon
    @ArynBacklogDragon 4 года назад +1

    I just cant get myself to like support this game. I like what I see hit the censorship murders any interest I could have in it.

  • @nico.delmundo
    @nico.delmundo 4 года назад

    I am really hoping Tokyo Mirage sessions is the reason why they did not announce persona 5 for the switch. It would make sense that they wouldn't Want us to miss out on this game if we already knew that persona 5 was coming

  • @AussieGalblade
    @AussieGalblade 4 года назад +1

    I think expecting anything significant out of the new content is setting yourself up for disappointment. It's the same case with the Xenoblade Chronicles rerelease for Switch, it's cut content for a reason. It wasn't fleshed out enough to be worth putting int the game originally so it makes sense that it isn't deep.

  • @CuppaGi
    @CuppaGi 4 года назад +10

    There's no English voice acting? Ugh... I just want to understand what the characters are saying in battle.

    • @MrValgard
      @MrValgard 4 года назад +1

      lern japanese alredy -.-

    • @Trakker1985
      @Trakker1985 4 года назад +2

      yeah i know what you mean, but you can kinda gleen what they are saying, it's just battle fluff like "here i go!", "Now it's my turn!", "I don't feel so good...", "Oh yeah! all right!"

    • @Ajia_No_Envy
      @Ajia_No_Envy 4 года назад +4

      @@MrValgard tbf not everyone is going to learn a new language just for that especially an asian language with a different script

    • @michaelsauer3064
      @michaelsauer3064 4 года назад

      @@MrValgard Sure. Let me just utilize the 30 minutes of free time I have per day to do that...

    • @antimatter3084
      @antimatter3084 4 года назад +1

      @@MrValgard You should work on your english before you tell people to "lern" japanese.

  • @kenozakesy2372
    @kenozakesy2372 4 года назад +1

    I beat persona 5 in 77 hours the first time around. on NG+ I beat in in 26 hours. This is done by skipping most of the story sections. Also I didn't buy the highest level demons from the compendium I just fused them like on NG. So I would say 50 hours is quite possible your first time around just really unlikely.

  • @Adamistic27
    @Adamistic27 4 года назад +2

    Great discussion video! I really enjoyed it ^_^

  • @infernoseph6867
    @infernoseph6867 4 года назад +30

    It always seems like people care about censorship situations like this wayyy too much. It's just a video game and nothing important was changed anyway. People gotta calm down lol

    • @OathKeeperRiku07
      @OathKeeperRiku07 4 года назад +3

      Welcome to how people acted last year

    • @psychokinrazalon
      @psychokinrazalon 4 года назад +3

      Joey Pizzuto That kind of attitude will give rise to totalitarianism.

    • @Ecusu
      @Ecusu 4 года назад +10

      @@psychokinrazalon Some underage girls got covered up so as to not cater to a certain demographic of degenerates, don't think that's comparable to totalitarianism.

    • @infernoseph6867
      @infernoseph6867 4 года назад +6

      @@psychokinrazalon This is what I mean when I say people care too much about this. Obviously censorship is wrong in many cases especially when free speech is restricted and stuff but when it comes to a video game that's mostly the same as the original but some outfits are different I really don't think it matters at all

    • @psychokinrazalon
      @psychokinrazalon 4 года назад +3

      EX_094 A certain demographic that will not be spending money on this. Very counterproductive to running a business.

  • @chardrive
    @chardrive 4 года назад +3

    Persona 5 took me 130 hours lmaoooo

    • @last-yakuza-8363
      @last-yakuza-8363 4 года назад +2

      And Royal will probably take you 250 lol idk

  • @Sonamy5673
    @Sonamy5673 4 года назад +4

    Atlus said they have no plans for persona 5 coming to other consoles

    • @organizedopinions8068
      @organizedopinions8068 4 года назад +1

      That's not true. They asked several times where would people like to see it. It probably will never be announced coming anywhere else till a few months after Royals release probably due to a timed exclusivity contract. But sega in general is take a stance of porting games everywhere because they're not doing well financially due to exclusivity.

    • @JohnDoe-of1hy
      @JohnDoe-of1hy 4 года назад +1

      Organized Opinions ok boomer

    • @organizedopinions8068
      @organizedopinions8068 4 года назад

      @@JohnDoe-of1hy I'm genZ thanks.

    • @JohnDoe-of1hy
      @JohnDoe-of1hy 4 года назад

      Organized Opinions do you know if persona 5 scramble will be localized and when it will be released in the US

    • @michaelcotejar3990
      @michaelcotejar3990 4 года назад

      On Japanese surveys they always ask regarding Persona on other consoles, also P5 S is a direct sequel, during the latest trailer with Mona it did show the logo with the number 2 before ending up with an S

  • @MelaKaden
    @MelaKaden 4 года назад +9

    I would've bought this if they had included an English dub

  • @ssssssstssssssss
    @ssssssstssssssss 4 года назад

    Who are the fire Emblem counterparts of each of the main TMS characters? Touma is Ryouma if I remember correctly.. but who are the rest?

    • @giddthedevil1790
      @giddthedevil1790 4 года назад

      If you mean what their mirage partners are:
      Itsuki's is Chrom
      Tsubasa's is Caeda
      Touma's is Cain
      Kiria's is Tharja
      Eleonora's is Virion
      Mamori's is Draug
      Yashiro's is Navarre
      Barry and Maiko's are currently unknown.
      And Tiki is Tiki.
      If you mean who they most resemble, I unfortunately am not THAT familiar with Fire Emblem, but Itsuki resembles Marth quite a lot.

    • @giddthedevil1790
      @giddthedevil1790 4 года назад

      @@bobxstar Compared to a normal Fire Emblem game, which tend to have casts of 20+, TMS is comparitively smaller at only 7 party members (+3 Support characters in Encore.)

  • @insertusernamehere925
    @insertusernamehere925 4 года назад +5

    While I'm not a fan of censorship, the game still looks fun, and if it's the closest thing to a Persona game I can get on the switch then I'll take it.

    • @xxcocohontas6934
      @xxcocohontas6934 4 года назад +1

      The closest you can get to a persona game on switch is persona scramble 🤦🏽‍♀️

    • @jme6036
      @jme6036 4 года назад +4

      XxCocohontas Not in terms of gameplay Scramble isn’t an rpg.

    • @Cynicz13
      @Cynicz13 4 года назад

      @Owain Dark You might want to take a look at the gameplay videos...it's more of a hybrid of warriors and persona 5 in the gameplay department...very different take on both of those style of games.

    • @Arawnnc
      @Arawnnc 4 года назад +1

      @Owain Dark Did yoy even watch gameplay of the game? Its not only a braindead hacknslash

    • @classifiedinfo8892
      @classifiedinfo8892 4 года назад

      @i'm bad at names Well shin megami Tensei 5 is in development for it and persona is actually a spinoff series of shin megami Tensei so you may like that whenever that comes out...

  • @Kaslo25
    @Kaslo25 4 года назад +4

    Excuse me, Tiki = Waifu is the best character. that is all.

  • @Oceanandskylinevidss
    @Oceanandskylinevidss 4 года назад

    Is the resolution and framerate any different?

  • @thegamingdoggo9519
    @thegamingdoggo9519 4 года назад +1

    I can't wait

  • @digitool5944
    @digitool5944 4 года назад

    the extra character to join you were name dropped in the reveal trailer...

  • @sokoTV2
    @sokoTV2 4 года назад +5

    Could someone timestamp where they talk about the censorship? I feel too much angst towards the game to sit through this vid. Apologies if they brought it up within the first minute.

    • @ArynBacklogDragon
      @ArynBacklogDragon 4 года назад +3

      I sat through it for a bit (despite sharing the angst.) But they didn't. I doubt they even talked about it at all).

    • @Jo__Ko
      @Jo__Ko 4 года назад +3

      Just watch the video censored gaming made a few years ago. The changes are really dumb but don't break the game tbh

    • @sokoTV2
      @sokoTV2 4 года назад +2

      @@Jo__Ko I watc d the censored gaming vid on how they're adding more censorship to this version, as well as censoring the Japanese release.

    • @anthonytoledo9493
      @anthonytoledo9493 4 года назад +1

      JamPacked They havent added more censorship at all. The censored version will the the worldwide version for Encore. But that’s still not a big deal since initial censorship (while weird and unnecessary) didnt change anything major.

    • @blueskydreams
      @blueskydreams 4 года назад

      JamPacked you are very uninformed if you think they added more censorship than before since it has been explained many times that this is a direct port of the Wii U version that we got years ago.

  • @Tommy-gm7uo
    @Tommy-gm7uo 4 года назад

    I want to be excited for this, but it looks very vanilla compared to Persona 5 which I consider one of the best JRPGs of all time. And to follow with the comments section, yes it doesn't take 50 hours to finish P5.

  • @veiledmystery7219
    @veiledmystery7219 4 года назад +9

    This game is literally amazing. The only change is outfits which doesn't take away from the story and characters.

    • @charlesdickens1803
      @charlesdickens1803 4 года назад +9

      Wrong, they changed the story/look of a whole dungeon.

    • @veiledmystery7219
      @veiledmystery7219 4 года назад

      I never heard of that. i know they ADDED one, but never revamping one.

    • @LAUTARO735
      @LAUTARO735 4 года назад

      @@veiledmystery7219 They did also is not a dungeon, the preview say that are just a floor that you finish quickly and is disjointed from the main story

    • @veiledmystery7219
      @veiledmystery7219 4 года назад

      @@LAUTARO735 I know that, I was referring to censoring.

    • @solidrev9640
      @solidrev9640 4 года назад +1

      @@veiledmystery7219 Dumbass

  • @theotakutopian7426
    @theotakutopian7426 4 года назад +1

    Is the Switch port getting an English dub? If not, they could’ve just dubbed the spoken line and kept the Japanese songs in. That’s what they’ve done for a lot of anime dubs for decades.

  • @jeshuaavila1620
    @jeshuaavila1620 4 года назад +1

    I wish they did dub the normal lines or included the subtitles in battle. I am still gonna get the game but wish the story was a bit darker or more serious like Persona. Since both fire emblem and persona are dark and have serious themes.

    • @Jo__Ko
      @Jo__Ko 4 года назад +6

      This is a Shin megami tensei and fire emblem cross over, not Persona and fire emblem. Persona isn't even dark compared to SMT

    • @Yunglex313
      @Yunglex313 4 года назад

      It does a lot similar to what the newer Persona games do by deconstructing parts of every day Life. There is this whole story that goes into the more negative parts of idol culture and it's effect on the main characters which is a nice idea and the only reason I really want to play it.

  • @jsandstorm5879
    @jsandstorm5879 4 года назад +2

    Wait what’s the protagonist from Astral Chain doing here?

  • @thamat3232
    @thamat3232 4 года назад +1

    Did they redo chapter 2? If they aonly censor sexy content i'm fine with that. But they alter the story to the point it really hard to understand and fail to tell the same story like the japanese WIiU version did. That what I'm angry about and hope it gone.

    • @keyofdestiny8477
      @keyofdestiny8477 4 года назад +1

      No they didn't and as an added bonus, the jp version is the same!

    • @giddthedevil1790
      @giddthedevil1790 4 года назад +1

      I feel like the change to the type of modeling done in chapter 2 doesn't change the plot by much, aside from some context, since it wasn't the focus in the first place, rather it was a catalyst for the real focus of the plot: Tsubasa and Nobu's character arcs. Tsubasa's was about learning from her mistakes and those that came before her to do her very best (or something along those lines. Her's was the weak link IMO) and Nobu's was about letting go of the past since his obsession with trying to recapture Maiko's glory days kept him from appreciating the potential of all his new models.

  • @theprimerib
    @theprimerib 4 года назад

    1 constant about Persona 5: However far you THINK you are in the game you are nowhere near that far.

  • @DelphieNEhuntah
    @DelphieNEhuntah 4 года назад

    If you want to listen to some J pop ... have a listen to Arashi ...great group

  • @Sportnugget
    @Sportnugget 4 года назад +6

    All of the people bitching about censorship makes want to buy 12 copies of this game.

    • @AdamTheGameBoy
      @AdamTheGameBoy 4 года назад +6

      Go ahead if you want, if you can't pay your bills and ruin your life then that'll be on you
      It's not people bitching about censorship though, it's people bitching about censorship in a full retail game where a lot of dialogue didn't get dubbed or subbed.

    • @staticshock4239
      @staticshock4239 4 года назад +2

      @@AdamTheGameBoy Not only that, they censored the Japanese version, which was previously uncensored.

  • @KOBEASTXIV
    @KOBEASTXIV 4 года назад

    Soo its an rpg game you play for the gameplay and not the story??

  • @frozengamer3030
    @frozengamer3030 4 года назад

    How long does it take to complete this game?

    • @ExoKexs
      @ExoKexs 4 года назад

      Frozen gamer it took me 60 hrs to finish the vanilla version so since this game has more chapters etc. will probably be 70-80

  • @DictionaryMath5903
    @DictionaryMath5903 4 года назад +2

    No calendar? Ok, Day 1 purchase

  • @MarioNin64
    @MarioNin64 4 года назад +1

    my first persona game!

    • @Jo__Ko
      @Jo__Ko 4 года назад +6

      Megami tensei*

  • @deebee77
    @deebee77 4 года назад +1

    Isn’t going to come to Switch

  • @malaki7123
    @malaki7123 4 года назад +1

    My hype levels!

  • @MikeyCochran1516
    @MikeyCochran1516 4 года назад

    Persona 5? 50 hours to beat it. Umm my file for persona 5 was way 100 hours. Idk what he is smoking saying its a 50 hour game

  • @miles8233
    @miles8233 4 года назад +1

    P5 is a 50 hour game lol yeah right it took me 125 hours

    • @EverydayYounglife
      @EverydayYounglife 4 года назад

      I think he means for players that just go straight for the true end of P5 its actually pretty quick.

  • @DaHecks
    @DaHecks 4 года назад

    Seems that chick has only played Persona 5, P4 was bright as hell

  • @sethshiro3487
    @sethshiro3487 4 года назад +2

    The girl looks like sothis.

    • @blueskydreams
      @blueskydreams 4 года назад +1

      seth shiro that girl looks like Tiki

    • @mikethepokemaster2012
      @mikethepokemaster2012 4 года назад

      @@Powermaster111 who Robin dragon girl. Adult tiki nah or nowi

  • @INFERN0FIRE
    @INFERN0FIRE 4 года назад +3

    If they dubbed everything aside from the songs, I would have bought it again. Now, I won't...

  • @harleytheapothecary7849
    @harleytheapothecary7849 4 года назад +1

    50 hour game lol, no its 120+, this guys mustve powered through all the palaces on easy mode and slept on every free day

  • @1wayroad935
    @1wayroad935 4 года назад +1

    I am here for Playable Maiko.

    • @rebekahmackenzie
      @rebekahmackenzie 4 года назад +1

      Hate to disappoint you but Tiki, Maiko and Barry still aren't playable in this version of the game. They can only join in certain sessions.

    • @lunamaster123
      @lunamaster123 4 года назад +1

      @@rebekahmackenzie This is confirmed?

  • @tatltails3923
    @tatltails3923 4 года назад

    For your point about "they can't translate the songs into English" I call a respectful BULLSHIT because if you actually try to sing the songs with the Japanese melody but the English subtitles, THE SYLLABLES FIT. EVERY TIME. IT'S SO COOL AND IT WAS ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS ABOUT THE GAME. So yeah I don't mind no dub but the songs are ABSOLUTELY translatable because they are already translated.

  • @adamahmad8800
    @adamahmad8800 4 года назад

    I'm getting this cuz I'm craving a persona style game and I dont have a ps4 so this is going to be cool until phantom strikers releases

    • @ralphtaylor7448
      @ralphtaylor7448 4 года назад

      vortex simmer let me help you kid this is not as good as Persona

    • @adamahmad8800
      @adamahmad8800 4 года назад

      @@ralphtaylor7448 I dont have high exp for this game but I just want a enjoyable experience tbh that's all

    • @ralphtaylor7448
      @ralphtaylor7448 4 года назад

      vortex simmer well don’t compare this crap to persona

    • @adamahmad8800
      @adamahmad8800 4 года назад

      @@ralphtaylor7448 big f

    • @alexbrown8900
      @alexbrown8900 4 года назад +1

      @@ralphtaylor7448 cmon be nicer. Its actually a nice game

  • @EvilAngel4116
    @EvilAngel4116 4 года назад +5

    While I am glad people like the game, and honestly if I took the time to play it with an open mind I might like it too. However, as a huge FE fan this is definitely not what I want as a crossover so I won't be getting it. If I ever find it second hand and it's like 20 bucks then maybe I'll play it and change my mind but yea this is a big skip for me.

    • @dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragon
      @dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragon 4 года назад +2

      Same.

    • @blueskydreams
      @blueskydreams 4 года назад

      Emily Walker not really sure what you were expecting since neither series is really compatible with the other. It’s a shame to see people not appreciate what it tried to do. I think the developers did a great job with the crossover and creating something new and imaginative with it.

    • @EvilAngel4116
      @EvilAngel4116 4 года назад

      @@blueskydreams And I don't understand why people can't understand why its a bad crossover to begin with. To begin with its not even an SMT crossover, its a Persona one. And there's barely any fire emblem in this game outside of characters omages which if you swapped the names of the characters you wouldn't even notice. Just having the characters and oh boy there's a Dragon at the end doesn't make it a good FE crossover, even more so when the only SMT vibes are the elemental weaknesses and spell names. There's no daemon merging mechanic or swapping out which is big in SMT, no engaging story line, barely any recruitable characters and the ones that do exist most of them suck as characters and their sidequests ( a mix of social links and supports) suck. All it needed to do is have SMT faithful play style with FE characters and a decent story, that's all people wanted and it didn't do it. Instead we got Idol sh*t, bare bones story, blank slates of fe characters, bad dungeons, boring characters and so much cringe I don't even know what to do with it.
      TMS is literally a game that they made in the persona style, remembered that they promised a crossover, slapped some FE cosmetic stuff in it and called it a day. And if it had been released as its own game without these elememts I would be more open to it but it's just using the 2 big franchises to make itself more likely to be purchased instead of celebrating any of the elements from either series that make them great. Also the games are very compatible, honestly it could have ended up as a good mix of the devil survivor games and fe but no they wanted persona. Blegh

    • @lunamaster123
      @lunamaster123 4 года назад

      @@EvilAngel4116 But they aren't really advertising it as this big crossover you are thinking of. I remember them saying that idea (the trailer we got) was changed very early in development. They wanted to make something different and something that stands on its own.
      I feel you binding to the original idea is holding you back from enjoying a pretty decent.

    • @EvilAngel4116
      @EvilAngel4116 4 года назад

      @@lunamaster123 Then they should have made it it's own game. Don't include anything from FE or persona. Instead they kept those elements to make it more popular to draw in the fans of those respective fan bases.
      And I did look into the game because I still like jrpgs but after looking at a no talk walkthrough I decided it wasn't worth because while the battle system is engaging and fun, everything is average at best. Including the characters who are so cringey it hurts. So yea anyone who decides not to play it aren't missing much.

  • @SoulEaterXIII
    @SoulEaterXIII 4 года назад +1

    How much content is censored?

  • @drfuzzygunsps4511
    @drfuzzygunsps4511 4 года назад

    Video is about TMS comments is about persona 5 🤣

  • @xxcocohontas6934
    @xxcocohontas6934 4 года назад +5

    Imagine thinking this game is another persona game..even shin megami tensei is a better comparison

    • @veiledmystery7219
      @veiledmystery7219 4 года назад +3

      I mean the battle system is kinda similar along with the social aspects too.

    • @ShadowCero
      @ShadowCero 4 года назад

      @@veiledmystery7219 It's a lot more similar to strange journey than Persona's once more system. And there is basically no social aspects at all in the game. The character stories are sidequests where they develop like most JRPGs with a large cast of party members (ala Tales etc.). There's no social linking or school life at all in the games so the persona comparisons really only match at the brighter colors and more "anime" tropes.

  • @bold3420
    @bold3420 4 года назад

    I like Anime so I like the game too

  • @taurellreed2716
    @taurellreed2716 4 года назад

    I did enjoy this more than P5.... Persona 5 isn't all that, people just dick ride it. P3/P4 are much better especially P3F/P4G.
    Hope P5R doesn't disappoint like P5 disappointed me.
    Also glad they didn't sub this game.

  • @Akibaferret
    @Akibaferret 4 года назад +16

    They ignored the fans that just wanted an unaltered game and now even Japanese fans have to put up with the censored western version.
    The backlash is unsurprising. At least they offered an apology and full refunds for Japanese canceled pre orders that came from this decision.
    I don't tolerate censorship in my games in any form so just as the first release this is pretty much dead on arrival for me.

    • @acebreaker7
      @acebreaker7 4 года назад +12

      It was never a big deal.and people loved to overreact big surprised there

    • @AQWpaladan
      @AQWpaladan 4 года назад +2

      Chill dude, lol

    • @Akibaferret
      @Akibaferret 4 года назад +10

      @@acebreaker7 it might not be a big deal to you, and that's totally fine, glad you can still enjoy it, but for me its a matter of principle so i vote with my wallet.

    • @RobRmanX
      @RobRmanX 4 года назад +12

      They didn't allow refunds because of censorship. Nintendo (in Japan) used screenshots that were from the original Wii U release, therefore it was technically false advertising. It had nothing to do with the censorship itself or supposed complaints about it.

    • @acebreaker7
      @acebreaker7 4 года назад +2

      @@RobRmanX exactly but facts and logic go over these peoples head its sad

  • @xxcocohontas6934
    @xxcocohontas6934 4 года назад +1

    I really can’t see me liking this game..hmm the anime parts look good tho

    • @ArynBacklogDragon
      @ArynBacklogDragon 4 года назад

      I mean, if you like your anime localized by 4Kids.

  • @galaxymaster
    @galaxymaster 4 года назад +2

    The fact that EVERY version is still censored (even the japanese now) and they still left out that content and DLC makes me avoid this game like the plague