Retro Ralph you don't have to switch and solder the wires; you just go into demulshooter and check boxes that say invert x and y. Shout to Giang for sharing this knowledge
I checked those boxes in demulshooter GUI but when I launch a game in Teknoparrot hooking demulshooter, the guns are still inverted during gameplay. Is it working for you via demulshooter?
This demulshooter tip/trick doesn't work for raw thrills games (ie terminator, Jurassic Park, aliens armagedon) unfortunately, so I still had to switch and re-solder those wires in order to fix the inverted axis, which is annoying.
The amount of arcade related subjects you have covered has not only been entertaining but very informative. I have learned so much from watching you. So awesome!!
I made a rolling gun cart with a pair of these. ruclips.net/video/C1q7b-kdTcw/видео.html I've been adding games to it ever since. I'm up to 30 games now. MAME stuff is super easy. And any game supported by DemulShooter (runnnig in model2, TeknoParrott, etc.) can be made to work as well
@@lewisdolan6990 If you look at the bottom-left of this page: service.globalvr.com/downloads/ffl/diagrams/power_dist_gun_games.pdf you will see the guns power harness diagram. Bit the wire color and even order isn't always the same when getting these guns from AliExpress. You need to be sure what wire is 12V, what wire is 24V, and what wire is Ground. Sometimes they are labeled and sometime you have to use trial and error by hooking up one wire at a time or using a continuity tester between a wire and the contacts on the lights (lights are 12V and the recoil is 24V). But once the wires are identified, just connect them to the correct voltage terminals in a power supply. I used this one and its working great: www.amazon.com/Arcity-Switching-Adjustable-Machine-Cocktail/dp/B07RT54H9V/ref=pd_lpo_23_t_1/133-4673328-7039818?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07RT54H9V&pd_rd_r=b21e34f7-27a1-4ad6-9344-fccffcd87b5f&pd_rd_w=rEbcG&pd_rd_wg=dp7j3&pf_rd_p=16b28406-aa34-451d-8a2e-b3930ada000c&pf_rd_r=ECHFRX49RB6S9KRZF0G5&psc=1&refRID=ECHFRX49RB6S9KRZF0G5
You are right, the solenoid is bigger than the one in the blue and pink guns. When I first cracked them open I was actually quite surprised about the quality, they even have insulation against the solenoid. Those harnesses have connectors that line up with the pins on the main board and there is a main connector that is used for easy disconnect when you have it in a machine, separate the whole lot and you will see one end of the cables go to the board and the others to LED's and buttons with a larger connecter in the middle for easy disconnection. That board shows up in windows as a HID keyboard, technically you don't need it but I use it too keep all the controls in the same place and run the LED's from it as it supply's a constant 12 and 5v.
So the big question I have for you Ralph is are you going to actually build an Aliens Gun Cab? If so are you going to just modify an Arcade1up cab to do it?
These look awesome, the crazy mess of a harness looks intimidating when I first saw it to be honest. But once one finds out where and what goes where, I'm sure that it will be easier. Looking forward to more videos on this set up and maybe you and Kim can give it another go with these new guns. Hopefully she doesn't take all the ammunition and power ups. Haha!
Ralph do this gun have a 24 or a 12v recoil unit? 24v is known to burn these guns out my question is will running this gun on 24volt gonna burn out the recoil unit?
Thanks for the great distraction in my day! Were these originally made for arcade use, or are they made primarily for home use? I was curious because I was wondering if the reason they were wired backwards, was because they were intended to be used on the arcade machines that have the CRT mounted facing up on the bottom and use a mirror to display the screen. That would require the controls to be reversed correct? And maybe that was what all the extra wires were for...different types of arcade harnesses. Just a thought.
Hey Ralph! Did you happen to test this with a game such as Operation Wolf? I'm carefully putting a build together and this method would remain very true to original approach. I'm concerned about the automatic repeat recoil since it's supposed to be capable of functioning like an automatic weapon 🙂
That's cool they work with Mame! Looks like a pain to get them setup, especially given yo have to soldier those connections because the aiming was reversed. But still something worth considering given the USB support.
@Retro Ralph, Have you tried playing non-positional light gun games like Time Crisis, HOTD, etc? If it worked, is this a setup you would use or do you think it would be a bad idea for such games that require quick reflexes and precision? Thanks for your input and for this review.
Hey Ralph, did you ever figure out what type of connector that is for power? it looks like a Large Molex connector or ones you find on the back of some arcade Monitors...also what is the 4th green wire for?
Hey! I bought 2 of these at 2 different times from 2 different suppliers. 1 of them is EXACTLY like yours (switched wires for up/down, left/right) and non-functioning led strip in the barrel. My first gun didn't have these issues, so it must be supplier specific. Just be careful when you buy these, I guess...
I've just subscribed as I'm really liking these gun shooting set ups. Question: The links you have provided is that for everything to set this up? (minus the monitor of course) and I'm confused on how you acquire the 3 games, is that the part you cannot talk about?
I've been looking at these since your original video. They look like a lot of fun, thanks for showing how they work! I would love it if someone sold a cover for the base.
Thanks for watching dude, they actually sell this really cool cover for it, check it out: US $99.99 | 1 pcs Gun rack / Plastic panel for ALIENS / Paradise Simulator Arcade Video shooting Game Machine 3 In 1 Ultra Firepower parts a.aliexpress.com/_m0hbBM9
Yeah, I order so much stuff from AliExpress, you just need to keep hunting for someone with better shipping prices. 👍🏻 most of these factories rip each other off and sell the same things and some at better prices than others.
@@KillerArcadeGames they are easy to make out of MDF wood, I made some for both my 3in1 set and the black usb version sets. If you guys really need them like you or @Retro Ralph I can ship some over to you guys just help me out with a little something for the shipping. I just spray painted mine black and sprayed a clear coat to seal & cover from smearing anything on your skin. You guys just let me know if you want the MDF wood pieces shipped to you, the only thing you will have to do is just glue them with wood glue.
@@alejandrocuevas5556 Thanks for the offer Alejandro! I wish I had room for another cabinet but I really don't right now. I'd really love to build something using these guns, probably a Revolution X cabinet with all of the games that use the guns! Its just a dream for now though.
@@RetroRalph you can emulate the wii version in dolphin emulator for pc and use the wii emulated option in the control settings to assign controls of the gun. If i am not missing something, i think this would work.
These look amazing! Ralph, can you, Brad or anyone tell me how they compare to Sinden guns with recoil? what are the benefits of one over the other? I am really considering buying these, but I would prefer if the recoil worked in all games.
Lots of the ali express chinese arcade accessories will not be jamma compatible plug and play and the grounds are in different places. People should always expect this stuff to be tricky to make Work. Many times the sellee can email you wiring diagrams if you ask them in a message.
I have these working with fright fear land. Also have them working with recoil on some teknoparrot and mame. But I also have a full aliens extermination cab.
sweet! I have a pair of these on the way from Ali express too. you've pushed me over the edge to get them too, but I've been wanting them since Brad Diederichs did his mod
Sweet, they’re a ton of fun. I have way more discovery to do but the USB connection makes it a lot more versatile. Mame is a bit tricky to get working right but I’m tweaking the sensitivity settings and I have it close to dialed in 👍🏻. Have fun and thanks for watching!
The gun is badass, true force feedback makes everything better. Being that it's fairly simple to setup is the icing on the cake. On the other hand what would you use it for unless you already have a light gun arcade machine you need to mod. If Arcade1Up ever comes out with a Terminator light gun game this would be perfect (it'd even be better if these guns were already installed, but yeah we can dream).
Do these guns work with those Aliexpress 3 in 1 packages? Those kits usually come with "hard wired" guns. I'm wondering if these usb wired guns also work. Anyone?
Hi Ralph, are you using teknoparrot to run the aliens game? If so , just connecting up this gun in the usb, teknoparrot can detect and assign the buttons to the game?
So would these guns work with a Pi? Would most of the really good games not be compatible with a Pi (Aliens, etc), and need a computer? Are there enough good shooting games to justify getting this set up?
a pi is goanna struggle with some of the newer games, though technically speaking, you could make it work. You'd really want something with a discreet graphics card or a more powerful iGPU to make them playable There where a few games that used joystick-like guns like these. Space Gun, T2, FarCry, that aliens game, Revolution X, Silent Scope can use them (though it'd ideally require modification to add the titular scope), and a Jurassic Park game I vaguely remember. You can set up emulations to use them as input for other light-gun based games like Lethal Enforcers as well, but they're not really balanced for that.
@@DFX2KX Ah, OK. Makes sense. Thanks, man. My Coinops build on my AtGames Legends Ultimate has the regular gun games (the ones you mentioned)-and I'm able to use the trackball to play them. Pretty fun, but would be better with the guns.
This looks really cool. I've been wanting to do a setup for gun games. I bought a Dolphin bar to use Wiimotes, but it's not great. I'd love to see you set this up for more emulators and see how it performs. MAME would be great, but there is also a ton of gun games on Teknoparrot. :) Thanks for the video Ralph.
Hey Ralph, could you answer a question for me? Would you ever be willing to test the potentiometers on these guns? I’m curious if I can swap out my old as F’ T2 Arcade guns in my T2 cabinet with these bad boys 🤩 it looks like they use the same Revolution X bearings, and almost a direct replications of the gears and inner guts ... maybe as easy as swapping pots? They even look more like a T2 gun from the future 🤩😝👍🏼 Thanks Ralph, Adam
I need this in my life but I don’t know how to set any of this up,, so since it uses potentiometers that means it doesn’t matter what type of screen you’re using it on,, is that correct?
Correct, you can use this gun with just about any modern display without an issue. There might be a size limitation due to range of motion but I used them on a 70” TV without a problem. 👍🏻
For Farcry, how do you get pass the w drive error? I can't figure that out. Obviously the game runs fine in Teknoparrot, but TP overrides the game's native inputs and therefore the recoil won't work. Thanks UPDATE: Nevermind... game files have to be in the root of the folder and drive has to be W. I just put the game on a thumb drive and changed the letter to W.
@@Brad-D hey brad! Thank u for clarifying! I follow you too, both you and Ralph and Andy from sinden are my favorites . Thanks to all of your hardwork I’m able to get my cabinet up and running the way I want
Have any of you guys bought an actual arcade machine from aliexpress or alibaba? There is some insane stuff on there cheap. Who knows what you actually get but it is tempting
Great video, does anyone know where you could buy a plug and play (fully assembled) version of these type of guns? Sorry I do not have Ralph's experience or technical abilities.
Hey do the black usb guns work with the other unit you had with the pink and blue guns I want to know if the Ammo counter works with the other system I have bought the other unit and I really want the ammo counter so I bought the black guns as well have not received them yet if you can can you test to see if the ammo counter works
Hello. Thanks for all your videos. Please i go to use the pcb inside this gun, to convert an original taito operation thunderbolt to usb. Can you tell me the value of the potentiometers on your gun. I buy the spare part electronic you have in this gun, from aliexpres. Thanks.
Lol! With the up/down left/right issue you probably only needed to flip the gun around. It was most likely just built incorrectly rather than wired incorrectly Or....you could just resolder it 😆
Hello, greetings, do you have an update on this kit? I got a supplier with a good price and I would like to buy the pair for my arcade project with pc emulators, have you already discovered how to prepare the board with which it comes? Can you help me make a tutorial? Thankful, greetings from Venezuela
been doing some good tests on these , Have you came across any other games that the force feed back works I can only gen aliens to work . These guns are the dogs bollocks ,Im well pleased. Ill be uploading a video tonight of a handfull of cool tekno parrot games running and setup with these.
@@vincentthompson1696 i ment to put the feedback ,on the guns working but i sorted that out through mame hooker and shared the configs with brad in the arcade scene and hes just released a vid , , i was meaning the force feed back dude
oh you deleted your comment , your the guy wanted me to share my mame hooker setup , im glad i didnt now with a message like that, I come across some cool people in the arcade scene what im always happy to help out but there is them few always out for themselfs. I think ill keep my mame hooker setup close and any new developement I do and not share anything out, you know after you posted it I could still see that comment, and your previous comment seemed also crappy. as for the PC hardware I include in my mod is for everything to be self contained , SFF (Small Form Factor) into the control panek for that its exspensive with Mini ITX motherboards, and custom PSUs
Hey .. I think I get it..... the next project .. After the pedestal.... !! One of this install in one camera Tripod like real Machine gun connect to my hyperspin !!
so.. I tried to understand how it works: it just measure the movement of gun to convert its mechanical movement to mouse cursor location. that's all I guess. only drawback is that It doesn't really match where it actually point since it just measure how much gun is moved.. mechanically(potentio-meter). at gun point no signal or any light comes out since it is just.. a gun shaped analog joystick. It would work with any display since it does not interact with display at all.. If force feedback is great then I would use this for LA machinegun arcade..
part of what you do when you set these up is re-calibrate the gun's 'limits' to the screen borders to help it match better. as for the force-feedback, there's probably an API somewhere to make that work on other games, just not implemented.
I personally haven’t tested it with TP but a buddy of mine has and it does work but getting the feedback to work on certain games I believe is a challenge.
I got mine in and they work sweet so far , just need to test the 24V kickback. But great things to come , going to make some cool units from these . Thanks buddy
I bought two of these after seeing someones gun pedestal they made. I didn’t know they would require soldering, is there a possible software solution to reversing the directions?
@@heathbass Mine weren't reversed when I got them but one of the wires had broken off the X-axis POT so I had to break out the soldering iron anyway :-/
@@Brad-D Thanks Brad, you’re the reason I got them! I’m glad yours weren’t reversed, hopefully mine will be the same but if I have to learn a little soldering that will be fun too.
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Retro Ralph you don't have to switch and solder the wires; you just go into demulshooter and check boxes that say invert x and y. Shout to Giang for sharing this knowledge
Thanks for this tip, my gun just came so going to test that out
I checked those boxes in demulshooter GUI but when I launch a game in Teknoparrot hooking demulshooter, the guns are still inverted during gameplay. Is it working for you via demulshooter?
This demulshooter tip/trick doesn't work for raw thrills games (ie terminator, Jurassic Park, aliens armagedon) unfortunately, so I still had to switch and re-solder those wires in order to fix the inverted axis, which is annoying.
The amount of arcade related subjects you have covered has not only been entertaining but very informative. I have learned so much from watching you. So awesome!!
Thanks my dude, I always appreciate you watching and your ongoing support 🙏🏼✊🏻
Wow, dammit Ralph.., you did it again. Got me distracted from working at home again! Good job! LOL
Ummmm... I'm always distracted working from home... LOL.
I would love to make a Pandora Gun Edition out of these 2 guns.
And combine it with the games you showed incl. a lot of other awesome shooters.
I made a rolling gun cart with a pair of these.
ruclips.net/video/C1q7b-kdTcw/видео.html
I've been adding games to it ever since. I'm up to 30 games now. MAME stuff is super easy. And any game supported by DemulShooter (runnnig in model2, TeknoParrott, etc.) can be made to work as well
That was a cracking build
@@Brad-D do you have wiring guide for the guns? Amazing build. Just bought 2 of them myself to try and make my own.
@@lewisdolan6990 If you look at the bottom-left of this page:
service.globalvr.com/downloads/ffl/diagrams/power_dist_gun_games.pdf
you will see the guns power harness diagram. Bit the wire color and even order isn't always the same when getting these guns from AliExpress.
You need to be sure what wire is 12V, what wire is 24V, and what wire is Ground. Sometimes they are labeled and sometime you have to use trial and error by hooking up one wire at a time or using a continuity tester between a wire and the contacts on the lights (lights are 12V and the recoil is 24V).
But once the wires are identified, just connect them to the correct voltage terminals in a power supply.
I used this one and its working great:
www.amazon.com/Arcity-Switching-Adjustable-Machine-Cocktail/dp/B07RT54H9V/ref=pd_lpo_23_t_1/133-4673328-7039818?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07RT54H9V&pd_rd_r=b21e34f7-27a1-4ad6-9344-fccffcd87b5f&pd_rd_w=rEbcG&pd_rd_wg=dp7j3&pf_rd_p=16b28406-aa34-451d-8a2e-b3930ada000c&pf_rd_r=ECHFRX49RB6S9KRZF0G5&psc=1&refRID=ECHFRX49RB6S9KRZF0G5
that would be awesome Wicked.
This needs a follow up vid! with all the wire and once you try it in mame.
You are right, the solenoid is bigger than the one in the blue and pink guns. When I first cracked them open I was actually quite surprised about the quality, they even have insulation against the solenoid. Those harnesses have connectors that line up with the pins on the main board and there is a main connector that is used for easy disconnect when you have it in a machine, separate the whole lot and you will see one end of the cables go to the board and the others to LED's and buttons with a larger connecter in the middle for easy disconnection. That board shows up in windows as a HID keyboard, technically you don't need it but I use it too keep all the controls in the same place and run the LED's from it as it supply's a constant 12 and 5v.
So the big question I have for you Ralph is are you going to actually build an Aliens Gun Cab? If so are you going to just modify an Arcade1up cab to do it?
These look awesome, the crazy mess of a harness looks intimidating when I first saw it to be honest. But once one finds out where and what goes where, I'm sure that it will be easier. Looking forward to more videos on this set up and maybe you and Kim can give it another go with these new guns. Hopefully she doesn't take all the ammunition and power ups. Haha!
Ralph do this gun have a 24 or a 12v recoil unit? 24v is known to burn these guns out my question is will running this gun on 24volt gonna burn out the recoil unit?
Thanks for the great distraction in my day! Were these originally made for arcade use, or are they made primarily for home use? I was curious because I was wondering if the reason they were wired backwards, was because they were intended to be used on the arcade machines that have the CRT mounted facing up on the bottom and use a mirror to display the screen. That would require the controls to be reversed correct? And maybe that was what all the extra wires were for...different types of arcade harnesses. Just a thought.
I love these videos of you tinkering with cool arcade and video game tech
Thanks man, I’m having so much fun lately just showcasing cool arcade stuff... I really appreciate you watching 🙏🏼
Hey Ralph! Did you happen to test this with a game such as Operation Wolf? I'm carefully putting a build together and this method would remain very true to original approach. I'm concerned about the automatic repeat recoil since it's supposed to be capable of functioning like an automatic weapon 🙂
That's cool they work with Mame! Looks like a pain to get them setup, especially given yo have to soldier those connections because the aiming was reversed. But still something worth considering given the USB support.
@Retro Ralph, Have you tried playing non-positional light gun games like Time Crisis, HOTD, etc? If it worked, is this a setup you would use or do you think it would be a bad idea for such games that require quick reflexes and precision? Thanks for your input and for this review.
Thanks for another great vid Ralph! Any chance you can give us a look at the gun running with Mame - maybe T2/Revolution X?? Keep up the great work!
We need to see some gameplay and hopefully a full size sit down cab with these.
Hey Ralph, did you ever figure out what type of connector that is for power? it looks like a Large Molex connector or ones you find on the back of some arcade Monitors...also what is the 4th green wire for?
Did you ever find out about the LED lights that were not working when applying the 12 volts?
Would love to see if you can get that working with a raspberry pi build.
This is awesome I'm so glad you figured this out
I have those same guns, they came on my Far Cry arcade. I'm also trying to modify the cabinet to have more things to do with it.
Hey! I bought 2 of these at 2 different times from 2 different suppliers. 1 of them is EXACTLY like yours (switched wires for up/down, left/right) and non-functioning led strip in the barrel. My first gun didn't have these issues, so it must be supplier specific. Just be careful when you buy these, I guess...
Just bought mines, have you tested on teknoparrot games yet? If so do you have any instructions? Thanks
@@SwissyChief1265 thanks will try that
I don’t know what’s more fire 🔥 The new gun or the new shirt 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
Thanks my dude ✊🏻. I appreciate you watching and always supporting the channel!
Let me know what u think of my Daytona USA video ruclips.net/video/0uPRyPfbodU/видео.html
I've just subscribed as I'm really liking these gun shooting set ups. Question: The links you have provided is that for everything to set this up? (minus the monitor of course) and I'm confused on how you acquire the 3 games, is that the part you cannot talk about?
I wonder if these would work if you plugged them into the 3in1 system
What’s the green wire for? 🤔🤔🤔
That one gives me a lot of ideas. Thanks, Ralph I mean that in a good way.
can I use this for the game Duck Hunt for NES?
I've been looking at these since your original video. They look like a lot of fun, thanks for showing how they work! I would love it if someone sold a cover for the base.
Thanks for watching dude, they actually sell this really cool cover for it, check it out: US $99.99 | 1 pcs Gun rack / Plastic panel for ALIENS / Paradise Simulator Arcade Video shooting Game Machine 3 In 1 Ultra Firepower parts
a.aliexpress.com/_m0hbBM9
@@RetroRalph Oh nice! That shipping is so brutal haha.
Yeah, I order so much stuff from AliExpress, you just need to keep hunting for someone with better shipping prices. 👍🏻 most of these factories rip each other off and sell the same things and some at better prices than others.
@@KillerArcadeGames they are easy to make out of MDF wood, I made some for both my 3in1 set and the black usb version sets. If you guys really need them like you or @Retro Ralph I can ship some over to you guys just help me out with a little something for the shipping. I just spray painted mine black and sprayed a clear coat to seal & cover from smearing anything on your skin. You guys just let me know if you want the MDF wood pieces shipped to you, the only thing you will have to do is just glue them with wood glue.
@@alejandrocuevas5556 Thanks for the offer Alejandro! I wish I had room for another cabinet but I really don't right now. I'd really love to build something using these guns, probably a Revolution X cabinet with all of the games that use the guns! Its just a dream for now though.
Awesome unit. Very cool.
Hey Ralph, can you try testing the gun out on a shooter like The House of the Dead Overkill? I think this USB gun could work well on a game like that.
Is there a way to emulate overkill? I'm only familiar with the Wii version.
@@RetroRalph I heard there was an option to play an overkill mode in typing of the dead, But no other PC ports of the full overkill game
@@RetroRalph you can emulate the wii version in dolphin emulator for pc and use the wii emulated option in the control settings to assign controls of the gun. If i am not missing something, i think this would work.
Would love to see this type of gun in an A1up cab!
The gun is cool but I like the way you were troubleshooting the wiring. 🤔
These look amazing! Ralph, can you, Brad or anyone tell me how they compare to Sinden guns with recoil? what are the benefits of one over the other? I am really considering buying these, but I would prefer if the recoil worked in all games.
Thanks for the video just got 2 of these can't wait to start using them
Lots of the ali express chinese arcade accessories will not be jamma compatible plug and play and the grounds are in different places. People should always expect this stuff to be tricky to make
Work. Many times the sellee can email you wiring diagrams if you ask them in a message.
I have these working with fright fear land. Also have them working with recoil on some teknoparrot and mame. But I also have a full aliens extermination cab.
very cool Ralph! wondering if they will eventually put out another more easier to setup version with more games!
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sweet! I have a pair of these on the way from Ali express too. you've pushed me over the edge to get them too, but I've been wanting them since Brad Diederichs did his mod
Sweet, they’re a ton of fun. I have way more discovery to do but the USB connection makes it a lot more versatile. Mame is a bit tricky to get working right but I’m tweaking the sensitivity settings and I have it close to dialed in 👍🏻. Have fun and thanks for watching!
How do we get the top led to light up as well??
The gun is badass, true force feedback makes everything better. Being that it's fairly simple to setup is the icing on the cake. On the other hand what would you use it for unless you already have a light gun arcade machine you need to mod. If Arcade1Up ever comes out with a Terminator light gun game this would be perfect (it'd even be better if these guns were already installed, but yeah we can dream).
Do these guns work with those Aliexpress 3 in 1 packages? Those kits usually come with "hard wired" guns. I'm wondering if these usb wired guns also work. Anyone?
Oh, yeah! I bet it works with run-ahead latency on retroarch. I just didnt quite get how to hook up the 12v and 24v.
Hi Ralph, are you using teknoparrot to run the aliens game? If so , just connecting up this gun in the usb, teknoparrot can detect and assign the buttons to the game?
This is cool. I wanna see a full cab build tho lol
:)
ruclips.net/video/C1q7b-kdTcw/видео.html
I don’t have the space for another cabinet 🙈 check out the link below though 👍🏻
I also want to see a full sit down cab
Nos has salvado … estamos agradecidos ! 👽🤣
Which power supply is compatible with these guns thanks Ralph and I hope you can reach out to me soupçon
Seems like this could work nicely with one of the optical lightgun conversion kits if you wanted to have a freehand option.
Another great video Ralph. Say how would I hook up one of these to an encoder?
Are there any 3rd party pedestals or mounts for them or are you forced to custom make your own?
I'd love to build a T2: Judgement Day cab with these!
So would these guns work with a Pi? Would most of the really good games not be compatible with a Pi (Aliens, etc), and need a computer? Are there enough good shooting games to justify getting this set up?
a pi is goanna struggle with some of the newer games, though technically speaking, you could make it work. You'd really want something with a discreet graphics card or a more powerful iGPU to make them playable
There where a few games that used joystick-like guns like these. Space Gun, T2, FarCry, that aliens game, Revolution X, Silent Scope can use them (though it'd ideally require modification to add the titular scope), and a Jurassic Park game I vaguely remember. You can set up emulations to use them as input for other light-gun based games like Lethal Enforcers as well, but they're not really balanced for that.
@@DFX2KX Ah, OK. Makes sense. Thanks, man. My Coinops build on my AtGames Legends Ultimate has the regular gun games (the ones you mentioned)-and I'm able to use the trackball to play them. Pretty fun, but would be better with the guns.
hi Ralph! I just tried my gun, even me the internal LEDs do not light up, in Brad they work, do you have any idea how to make them work? thank you
This looks really cool. I've been wanting to do a setup for gun games. I bought a Dolphin bar to use Wiimotes, but it's not great. I'd love to see you set this up for more emulators and see how it performs. MAME would be great, but there is also a ton of gun games on Teknoparrot. :) Thanks for the video Ralph.
I have a dead operation thunderbolt, that i should retrofit with these guns and mame.
We need to see T2 gameplay with these!
Hey Ralph, could you answer a question for me? Would you ever be willing to test the potentiometers on these guns? I’m curious if I can swap out my old as F’ T2 Arcade guns in my T2 cabinet with these bad boys 🤩 it looks like they use the same Revolution X bearings, and almost a direct replications of the gears and inner guts ... maybe as easy as swapping pots? They even look more like a T2 gun from the future 🤩😝👍🏼
Thanks Ralph,
Adam
I need this in my life but I don’t know how to set any of this up,, so since it uses potentiometers that means it doesn’t matter what type of screen you’re using it on,, is that correct?
Correct, you can use this gun with just about any modern display without an issue. There might be a size limitation due to range of motion but I used them on a 70” TV without a problem. 👍🏻
For Farcry, how do you get pass the w drive error? I can't figure that out. Obviously the game runs fine in Teknoparrot, but TP overrides the game's native inputs and therefore the recoil won't work. Thanks
UPDATE: Nevermind... game files have to be in the root of the folder and drive has to be W. I just put the game on a thumb drive and changed the letter to W.
That looks awesome!
Are there newer versions with less problems?
Just placed my order for them hope they come in soon :) and i dont get scammed man cant wait
Just bought one after your review.......
Great video as always! :)
do the guns show up as rawinputs like aimtraks? so technically this could work for any light gun game correct?
They show up as analog joysticks
@@Brad-D hey brad! Thank u for clarifying! I follow you too, both you and Ralph and Andy from sinden are my favorites . Thanks to all of your hardwork I’m able to get my cabinet up and running the way I want
@@raymonddai 😇
Have any of you guys bought an actual arcade machine from aliexpress or alibaba? There is some insane stuff on there cheap. Who knows what you actually get but it is tempting
can i ask you something? is there a way to bridge the solenoid and the led to the trigger to work with all arcade games?
Great video, does anyone know where you could buy a plug and play (fully assembled) version of these type of guns? Sorry I do not have Ralph's experience or technical abilities.
Got my guns how would i splice those wires tho? For lights and force feedback
are you running this with the teknoparrot version of aliens
No, it’s a stand alone PC image
Hey do the black usb guns work with the other unit you had with the pink and blue guns I want to know if the Ammo counter works with the other system I have bought the other unit and I really want the ammo counter so I bought the black guns as well have not received them yet if you can can you test to see if the ammo counter works
Hello.
Thanks for all your videos.
Please i go to use the pcb inside this gun, to convert an original taito operation thunderbolt to usb.
Can you tell me the value of the potentiometers on your gun.
I buy the spare part electronic you have in this gun, from aliexpres.
Thanks.
Just got my alien guns didnt come with cords?? Just the gun its self
You got to do a T2 fixed gun mod with those guns on an arcade 1 up!!!!!
I am very curious to see if this usb gun would respond on a atgames legend. Would you mine trying it out ????
i have mine today :D
Lol! With the up/down left/right issue you probably only needed to flip the gun around. It was most likely just built incorrectly rather than wired incorrectly Or....you could just resolder it 😆
Damn. Now you're making me want to start a new project.
=...(
Im looking at building a shell for these , like my orginal cabinet its the same shape as these units, be looking at doing kits up.
Looking 4ward to seeing this 🤟👍
Hello, greetings, do you have an update on this kit? I got a supplier with a good price and I would like to buy the pair for my arcade project with pc emulators, have you already discovered how to prepare the board with which it comes? Can you help me make a tutorial? Thankful, greetings from Venezuela
It’s sad that the recoil only works on those two games. Let me know if you figure out a way to make it work on others.
Very cool!
Would this work with coins ops. Or could it plug into the pc and also have your board with buttons also plugged in seperatly. ?
yup
hi do you have tutorial to set up wii mote as a gun on retropie ? thans from france
Aaaafirmative!
It’s sounds just like the T2 guns!!!!
This is Awesome!
hi, can you please share some of you mame sesitivity settings for this? thank.
That’s dope. 🦊👊🏼
✊🏻 Thanks for watching dude!
By the time I get my Sinden’s, I will be at retirement age.
I feel you.
Bruh could please do video for wire this bad boys up very appreciate
been doing some good tests on these , Have you came across any other games that the force feed back works I can only gen aliens to work . These guns are the dogs bollocks ,Im well pleased. Ill be uploading a video tonight of a handfull of cool tekno parrot games running and setup with these.
If you uploading a video why the hell you asking ralph if any other games works?
@@vincentthompson1696 i ment to put the feedback ,on the guns working but i sorted that out through mame hooker and shared the configs with brad in the arcade scene and hes just released a vid , , i was meaning the force feed back dude
oh you deleted your comment , your the guy wanted me to share my mame hooker setup , im glad i didnt now with a message like that, I come across some cool people in the arcade scene what im always happy to help out but there is them few always out for themselfs. I think ill keep my mame hooker setup close and any new developement I do and not share anything out, you know after you posted it I could still see that comment, and your previous comment seemed also crappy. as for the PC hardware I include in my mod is for everything to be self contained , SFF (Small Form Factor) into the control panek for that its exspensive with Mini ITX motherboards, and custom PSUs
It’s awesome
Hey .. I think I get it..... the next project .. After the pedestal.... !! One of this install in one camera Tripod like real Machine gun connect to my hyperspin !!
so.. I tried to understand how it works: it just measure the movement of gun to convert its mechanical movement to mouse cursor location. that's all I guess.
only drawback is that It doesn't really match where it actually point since it just measure how much gun is moved.. mechanically(potentio-meter).
at gun point no signal or any light comes out since it is just.. a gun shaped analog joystick. It would work with any display since it does not interact with display at all..
If force feedback is great then I would use this for LA machinegun arcade..
You are correct on movement, however force feedback is encoded for Aliens and Farcry only.
part of what you do when you set these up is re-calibrate the gun's 'limits' to the screen borders to help it match better. as for the force-feedback, there's probably an API somewhere to make that work on other games, just not implemented.
does it work for teknoparrot?
I personally haven’t tested it with TP but a buddy of mine has and it does work but getting the feedback to work on certain games I believe is a challenge.
Pretty damn cool 👍👍
I got mine in and they work sweet so far , just need to test the 24V kickback. But great things to come , going to make some cool units from these . Thanks buddy
Awesome man, glad to hear it!
Hello friend . Do you know what the 1 pin green wire is for? And what to do with it? I’m lost. Thanks
operation wolf
THIS WOULD GUNDAM!!!!! lol
I bought two of these after seeing someones gun pedestal they made. I didn’t know they would require soldering, is there a possible software solution to reversing the directions?
For mame it should be no problem, but teknoparrot there is no way around it. It’s very easy to rewire.
@@raychow5419 Thanks, I’ve never soldered anything yet but this looks like an easy one to start with.
@@heathbass Mine weren't reversed when I got them but one of the wires had broken off the X-axis POT so I had to break out the soldering iron anyway :-/
@@Brad-D Thanks Brad, you’re the reason I got them! I’m glad yours weren’t reversed, hopefully mine will be the same but if I have to learn a little soldering that will be fun too.
@@heathbass Soldering is super fun! :)